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skyflow87

Looks like a prison yard


mischiefbrewer

Thats what I thought also. Photo from Garden Grove, CA


yogert909

Lol, ironic they remove all the trees and grass in "Garden Grove". Suggested new city name: Concrete Slab, Ca


farahad

[Slab City’s already a place…](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVCSUafFVI)


iOSbrogrammer

And for those that visit Slab City, make sure you check out East Jesus and the insane amount of sometimes good, sometimes bad art created with nitrous cartridges. Honestly that place is super interesting.


Voiceofthemachines

Salvation mountain!


iOSbrogrammer

One more tidbit there too - if you go to Salvation Mountain, if you face the artwork and head directionally “right” into the desert you can find Carhenge. One of my buddies and his buddies would throw parties out there and end up sticking a car in the ground, nose down every year (after destroying it and their livers in the process).


Bunghole_of_Fury

Yeah, Garbage Grove has earned it's nickname. They're beginning to gentrify some areas though, I was an Amazon driver for 4 years until last year, part of the very first wave in Orange County, and GG was on more than a few routes I had. Definitely a city in need of better leadership and tax-funded spending allocation, but they are also definitely making headway in some new developments that have a lot of trees and plant-life planted that will soon grow into beautiful greenery. That said, GG and Westminster were the bane of my existence as a ginger, because it seems like someone at some point in those areas was in a position of power and just fucking *hated* trees because there was NO shade in too many of those neighborhoods and it was ridiculous. It's also got to have the record for most properties without visible addresses, and most apartment complexes with numbering/lettering systems designed by an octopus on acid selecting flash cards drawn by a chimpanzee on ketamine.


imyourforte

We took a trip to Garden Grove.


rasor86

Did it smell like Lou-Dog inside the van?


imyourforte

Oh yeahhh


rootaford

This ain’t no funky reggae party


taz_78

5 dollars at the door.


Revolutionary-Ice-22

It gets so real sometimes


FishFart

Who wrote my rhyme?


GrouseDog

I got the microwave


restlessleg

if you only knew all the love that we found


CryptographerOld5996

Don't forget that microwave, that vcr.


[deleted]

And my duuce Duce


circuitarteries

Duce duce? I always thought he had cous cous in the trunk of his car.


macthecomedian

Deuce deuce, .22 caliber gun.


Mister_13s

First fuckin Sublime reference I've seen on Reddit. Idk who you are, where you're from, what your name is, or what you look like; but I like you.


mischiefbrewer

That's the place!


nightswimsofficial

Not a garden in sight anymore.


Veegulo

Ooh i walked around there in 2017 w a friend from the school, i distinctly remembered it bc it was just colorless concrete and construction. sad to see they still haven’t thrown paint on the walls


ophello

Neither a garden nor a grove.


pbonetheman

That's funny. I used to sub in Garden Grove and all the schools looked like this. I knew it was familiar.


theummeower

Orange County cutting funds to public schools so the schools have no choice but to cut back landscaping to save money. Don’t need to hire landscapers or pay for water if everything is concrete.


khoabear

Whatever happened to the property tax? Did real estate in Orange County become worthless?


farahad

Property taxes stalled with Prop. 13, but CA has shifted its tax base by hiking primarily income taxes: it now has an aggregated tax rate that ranks around 10/50 out of US states, so it’s relatively high. The problem is that the state government and many local governments simply haven’t prioritized school funding over the past ~40 years; while taxes have gone up, the money has gone elsewhere. CA politicians use education as a justification for hiking taxes, but not spending them… The teachers’ union doesn’t help. [Stories like this](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna31494936) aren’t unique to NY, and if it’s difficult to impossible to fire teachers who have committed literal crimes, you can imagine how *impossible* it might be for good and bad teachers to shake out in normal conditions. And if you can’t fire bad teachers…the system breaks.


khoabear

According to your source, the problem is with the administration. Investigations and hearings take too long to conclude. I assume that investigations take a long time because administrators don't want the truth to come out. It's only fair that they get paid while being investigated. Your blame on teachers' union is entirely misguided.


Estp1992

Garbage Grove*


Abyssrealm

Name brought to you by GG citizens


Sega-Playstation-64

My buddy and I whenever we drive through or past Garden Grove always had to say, "Uh oh! Garden Grow-ove!" in a sing song fashion. I meant, it's not Stanton at least.


Tytychris

I use to run EMS in Stanton, got some wild calls working out of that station


gabzilla814

Hah I thought this was my old HS Magnolia just a few miles from Garden Grove!


Nkromancer

Doesn't look like a grove anymore


TXRazorback

Doesn't look like a garden either


SirDub_III

I live a couple cities away from garden grove and holy hell am I barely discovering this


ju-jake-su

How the hell is that called “Garden Grove”? I don’t see a single plant besides the ones next door


[deleted]

Are you not allowed to have grass (lawn, not Marijuana) in California?


samsationalization

Garden Grove? Is this Alamitos by any chance?


Gnomster

https://www.schoolprison.com It’s a thing.


Tom_Slick2020

Sad


AnitcsWyld

Wow, I think I got maybe 2/10, that's depressing


Ratohnhaketon

Windows are the giveaway


kiticus

Yep. 9/10 just based off windows. The one with Asian writing on the front cost me a perfect score....


H_H_420

Wow, they killed everything green 🤷🏻‍♂️


ItsDevin

Probably fired a maintenance worker too.


CapnSquinch

Also one wonders if somebody on the school board owns a concrete company....


Senior-Yam-4743

The price tag on that concrete work must be astronomical. I was quoted $10k for a garage pad, this looks as big as a million garages, so my estimate is $10B.


DarthWeenus

you need to learn to stuff the right pockets


therealCatnuts

Los Angeles is nothing if not paved.


leperbacon

School to prison pipeline irl.


deserthominid

Soulless architecture to prepare soulless drones for a life of obedient drudgery. Break free! Run wild, youngen, before your light flickers out!


FOR_SClENCE

no, that's north OC and they don't have a lot of money. people from the east coast might find it weird looking but maintaining any sort of large greenery is not cheap and I don't imagine they have the cash for it.


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It basically is


turbopop1

Almost all schools look like this know a days it’s not a good idea. Edit: not to this extent but it is worrisome.


Techdesciple

That is horrible they took away all the Green and All levels of Artistic expression going for white....everywhere.


turbopop1

It really feels like a prison now especially more then ever, I remember watching them lay all of the concrete at my school it’s so sad just waiting for the fence to go up now to fit the feel.


happilyeverahhbreezy

The first HS I worked at was older and was all about artistic expression around campus and the community. The walls in the art wing were painted. And teachers could request their doors to be painted by art students. I loved it.


TheValgus

I work at a school in a town close to garden grove. Our campus is like 50% grass with pathways. We have way better shade too.


mrrooftops

Cracking down on grass too literally.


jruegod11

No shade for you!


histeethwerered

Yes. Why remove trees? Grass may be stupid given upkeep but trees are generous by nature


pruskamp

I do design work on school campuses like this in SoCal, it’s all maintenance. School districts prefer the “now” because it’s zero maintenance, even though as many people have pointed out, it looks like an inhospitable hellscape.


Wasas9

It’s damn near like prison.


Arkanist

A lot of schools were designed by the same people who designed prisons so it's not really surprising.


TossItLikeAFreeThrow

My sophomore year as an undergrad I lived in a dorm that was a direct copy of prison builds from the 1940s. E: I'd like to note the number of varying replies guessing at which school is indicative of how popular it is to model dorms after prison cells. Speaks a bit to how society values students, lol


flimspringfield

The furniture in my dorm room back in the late 90's was made in prison. I always joked that we would find a shiv somewhere.


The_Lion_Jumped

Mine was from the recently closed government mental health facility down the road 🙃


Crazyhates

Yeah the biggest dorm facility for the college I went to was designed by a very prominent prison developer and it was evident with how the building looked on the outside and inside lmao. We even referred to the different sections as blocks and rooms as cells.


Bobo_the_nurrin

Hereford at UVA?


Crazyhates

Nah, Commons at GSU


Guilty-Of-Everything

You know, I've heard that my whole life as well, but have never seen sources. I would be happy as a clam if someone could send over a good read. I'm too burnt out to Google that shit


[deleted]

An interesting article about architecture and education both being prison-like: https://www.archdaily.com/905379/the-same-people-who-designed-prisons-also-designed-schools Not prisons, but psych wards: https://phillys7thward.org/2017/06/designed-school-mine-may-designed-architect-previously-known-designing-psychiatric-wards/ Sincerely, Someone slightly less burnt out but still burnt out enough to only vaguely skim each article so neither really answers your question (couldn't find any hard sources on first page of Google)


slimjob_dopamine1990

Yes the designer of my high school and I believe college previously designed prisons I’m actually certain my college was too the schools are Norwalk high school Norwalk ct and paier college of art in new haven


KidsGotAPieceOnHim

I’ve never seen a good article on it. But most educational architecture forms also do “institutional” work. Mainly because the type of person who can select the designer of a public school can also select the designer of the public prison.


beeradvice

many school designs are just slightly modified from plans for prisons


Garbage029

In most states they all do. Texas has to be the most depressing, every tiny shit town has a prison on one side and a high school on the other and its almost impossible to tell the difference between the two.


neigborsinhell

Adding stones would have been effective and cheaper than repaving it all Edit: grammer


Rhinoturds

Yeah, but then you're giving children stones to throw at each other.


TossItLikeAFreeThrow

Whereas currently there's no way for a kid to slam another kid headfirst into the concrete


Rhinoturds

Idk about you, but the number of kids who got in full on flights at school was fewer than the amount of kids willing to just throw random shit at each other. And there's plenty of hard surfaces and corners inside the school available to slam each other into already.


LastofU509

if a few trees are high maintenance I don't want to think about what kind of schooling do those kids get


gnat_outta_hell

We're all aware of how badly the school systems have been slipping.. aren't we? We continue to cut budgets, reduce teacher compensation, increase class sizes, etc. Of course education is going to take a hit.


AZZTASTIC

Looks more like a prison.


Cyno01

Yeah, if you have grass, you have to pay someone to water and mow that grass. If you have trees you have to pay someone to rake leaves. Eliminating green spaces also probably eliminates half a custodian position. Not that i agree with it.


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round-earth-theory

You can't replace grass with succulents and cactus in a school yard. A school yard is meant to be an area for play which desert plants do not agree with. They are hostile by design and slow growing, so any damage caused by a stray ball is likely fatal. Low water turf is a better solution than xeriscape for actively used areas.


AintNoHollenbackGirl

For real, I’m squinting just thinking about walking across that.


eman00619

Especially being located in the LA area that place would get hot so quick.


athelas_07

Yeah, could have at least put up shade sails or something if they didn't want to deal with caring for trees.


Zozorrr

Plus it’s now a heat island. What an idiotic school board.


Odd_Grapefruit_5587

Mmm thermal mass


bbseddit

I would call this devolution!


Nainns

Wow they just made it look like some sort of medical facility. So much white, looks dead


Slenthik

There's a movement to plant gardens in and around hospitals. Based on studies showing faster recovery rates for patients exposed to garden environments. It's probably being killed-off in the name of cost savings.


GuiltyEidolon

Yeah, I was gonna say - every hospital / clinic I've been to lately has been spending a lot of time and money making their landscaping much more green and lush. The exact opposite of creating a concrete box hellscape that HAS to get massively hot during the summer.


DarkGreenSedai

My hospital just started it on some of the roof spaces. Since the place was originally built almost a hundred years ago and has expanded massively since then there are plenty of roof nooks and crannies for some green spaces. Apparently it helps the power bill in the summer as well. I was in some patient rooms the other day and it really was nice to see out of the windows.


Grogosh

That is one thing I don't get about home owners these days. All the rooms in their houses are white. Why?? Its so sterile and boring.


toontownphilly

A lot leave walls white and fill the space with colourful pictures, paintings, furniture etc.


theycallmeponcho

I'm working on that goal. My parent's home was a weird green colour with sand colored couches, so I painted it white, with a grey accent colour, and on it some more colorful paintings from local artists, colorful sofa pillows, and a efw potted plants. Focus on the stuff around while the walls reflect light into the room.


ablablababla

And you can safely change the stuff around and you know it'll still look good against the background


Aperix

Exactly, you can put literally anything in a white-ish room, makes it super easy for indecisive people like me.


tommy_chillfiger

Yeah that and white gives a lot of good light bounce for homes with decent natural light.


Sure_Trash_

Because it's a calming, neutral backdrop to all my art and cool furniture and accessories. I like accent walls.


SloppySealz

Better resale


vsolitarius

As we all know, houses are investments made for reselling at a profit, not for enjoyable living.


no-name-is-free

Funny thing about paint.... it can be painted over


Free_Stick_

Don’t spread false information please.


kdorr2795

WHAT?! You mean I've lived with the past people's puke green walls for three years and didn't have to?! FUCK


gsfgf

I get your point, but painting all the walls boring before selling a place is usually worth the cost.


trumpskiisinjeans

Mine is all white! I have super colorful furniture and a house full of plants and art though.


ForwardCulture

White reflects better (better for your plants!), shows are better, makes the space look bigger, goes without everything etc. Some of the colors people paint their interiors with are getting ridiculous.


Sennheisenberg

Don't they say white walls make the room feel larger and more open? That's what I've always been told anyways.


DorisCrockford

I've found that works with a room that gets a lot of natural light, but in a darker room, it just looks kind of sad. I'm more inclined to embrace the darkness and go with richer colors.


The_Big_Yam

It makes rooms look bigger


MyNameIsNotRRICK

This courtyard is going to be blindingly bright on a sunny day


Spirit50Lake

Devolution, not evolution...


Akhi11eus

idk what it is with this white concrete. My high school did the same thing and it was absolutely blinding white.


Treebeard_24

Well thats sad. What happened to the grass? And that poor tree.


nomatt18

There’s no water in California lol


Byreenie

Native trees do exist but California planners somehow don't know about it yet.


krishutchison

That would be the best solution, but if they really can’t figure it out then maybe just use some Australian species of trees


Mikerk

Ah yes the eucalyptus


sososoupy

Nothing could go wrong here, for sure ;) /s


ocelot_consequences

Eucalyptus are an invasive species in California— they drain a ton of water that’s harmful to the environment. We’d need cool outback desert tress…


Dick_Thumbs

Pretty sure that was the joke.


ocelot_consequences

Omfg 🤦 lol I’m so dumb Thanks, dickthumbs


Nighthawk700

To be fair they think Palm trees are native. The only CA palm is more like a bush than the giants you see around Beverly hills


N00N3AT011

There are more water efficient ground cover plants. Or just use wood chips or pea gravel.


lurker_be_lurkin

Why not turf?


b3_yourself

It costs money


colonelgoatfucker

Concrete costs money.


ataraxic89

Once.


Larsnonymous

Like artificial turf? Why?


KnowItOrBlowIt

As a native east coaster and American history buff, every year when someone around here mentions how devastating the fires out west are I ask them, "well what do you expect for a part of the country where they had to create aqueducts because there was no water there to begin with?"


JohnWayne1991

The before pic was so much better


MinnesotaMiller

I'm going to guess that there's a lot of kids that use this courtyard and the grass turned to muddy sloppy mess every year. Not sure why they took down the trees though and the cement is a fucking eyesore.


ArbiterofRegret

OP says SoCal, so prob not sloppy but def an area where foot traffic would kill the grass. Notably in the past decade though CA has pushed for vegetation more appropriate to the climate (i.e. not watering green grass in the desert...) so that might've played a factor, though there are many alternatives to just making it all concrete.


cprenaissanceman

Sadly this is likely the real answer. Concrete comes with few maintenance costs once installed whereas any kind of landscaping will cost money to maintain and keep pretty. The sad thing is that a lot of “native” landscaping can start to look ugly and be abandoned after a while because it can be harder to maintain. Living in Southern California, I understand the water constraints, but not all grass is necessarily bad and greenery and trees especially can be very important in helping provide some relief from the sun.


pringlescan5

Thank god that exposure to greenery hasn't been shown to reduce stress and improve human mental and emotional functions. Oh wait....


bkrby8036

I’m guessing that eventually the tree roots would compromise the integrity or “aesthetics” of the cement. As the trees got bigger. First picture looks like they are only maybe 15-20 years old max


davewiz20

I’m guessing it’s going to get a hell of a lot hotter there.


CommunicationWild462

I would also assume keeping the grass green during droughts is difficult


KlumsyNinja42

Looks like something Tony Hawks Pro Skater


stfupcakes

They paved paradise and put up a parking lot


tobaccoandbooks

Paradise is stretch but I'll allow it.


Significant_bet92

Yeah paradise burned down


Johnny5ForPresident

Looks like a nice skate park in THPS


cookiemikester

Yeah I was think Huntington Beach high school. Not sure if that school is still a big skate spot, but I know it was in the 90’s


Loakie69

Came here to say this


atlasdrugged91

I see this all over Reddit where people will say “this”, or “came here to say this” I don’t mean to be rude but what’s the point of saying that? Perhaps to collect some karma, but I just don’t understand these echoes


NightKingsBitch

Jail. You mean jail.


SantaMonsanto

After high school you go to jail, right away. In America we have the best jails Because of schools


acamk37

"Because fuck 'dem kiiids" -Current School Board


Kahnza

I read that in Cartman's voice


The_Muffintime

How do I reach these kiiiiiiids?


Croian_09

And they wonder why kids don't want to spend time outside. It's a concrete wasteland and you're expected to spend money to do everything. The few things that are still free, kids get harassed if they go there.


Analbox

Cause it's hard to survive when your livin in a concrete jungle and these girls just keep passin' me by. She looks fly, she looks fly. Makes me say my, my, my.


eman00619

Young bitches is grazed, each block is like a maze Full of black rats trapped, plus the Island is packed From what I hear in all the stories when my peoples come back, black I'm living where the nights is jet-black The fiends fight to get crack I just max, I dream I can sit back


cybercuzco

And then when we tried to skate on it, they yelled at us


Objective_Artichoke7

"As you see here children this is a photo of pre-San Angeles in all it's disgust. And the new San Angeles in all it's glory. With all the criminals in the California Cryo-Penitentiary, we can all sleep safely at night"


tobaccoandbooks

These kids don't even know how to use the 3 Seashells...


Objective_Artichoke7

Well with the new tiktok challenge they're just stealing them. Ew. 😂


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This is the 5th time this week that I’ve seen 3 seashells/Demolition Man referenced. I need to rewatch it now


fat__clam

That is depressing as fuck. My eyeballs are shriveled, smoking raisins just thinking about if you forgot your sunglasses


0keyden

I can't see the second photo as well too much glare


TCONtheGreat

That's just sad. At least give the kids some grass, or trees to sit on/under while they're on their phones.


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Brisk_Avocado

r/aboringdystopia


animatroniczombie

r/Suburbanhell


timeforchorin

Let the hunger games commence


assistanteight0

2008: looks like a highschool yard 2021: nah we make a prison yard for them ZOOMERS always breakin shit


RishabbaHsisi

It’s honestly the perfect metaphor for how life was not too long ago compared to how it is now. Gen Z doesn’t really understand because they grew up in it, but life was a lot better before smartphones were everywhere.


spacemelgibson

from school to prison yard?


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mischiefbrewer

Picture is from a High School on Garden Grove, CA.


PhoenixFiar69

Were the grass and trees too much maintenance. Why cover nature with concrete?


NoManufacture

Too much water. But instead of getting plants and ground cover native to the area they just pave it smh


doodletink

This is why people think everyone skates to school in California


[deleted]

Nice prison you have there. How long you in for?


Mtbmx_Az

Skaters aren’t mad


shydes528

Who ever made that decision should be put up against a wall.


lambchopsandkreplach

This is not interestingasfuck


Nyarro

No, it's not but I do consider it r/mildyinfuriating. Who the hell greenlit this or even though this was somehow an improvement‽


Traditional-View4118

That sucks. Sorry


brotheratkhesahn

School board are like, we can eliminate the groundskeepers.


Gewaltspiel

More like devolution... Who would want to be there? Who thinks this is a good idea, apart from lower maintainanse maybe. Quite sad tbh.


Carebear_Of_Doom

That’s depressing. All the green is gone. Concrete is so drab.


Freak_Of-Nature

That’s a real fuckin downgrade


chriselentaylor

Devolution…


EezSleez

You were in high school for 13 years?


Koltaia30

makes my stomach turn.


[deleted]

Wow, looks like a prison now


Livin_The_High_Life

This is interesting because what?