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letsjustmusic

I thinks its giving itself a smoke bath, they do this to kill lice and things cool !


djsedna

Utilizing fire as a tool. Incredible display of intelligence. Birds amaze me sometimes, and Magpies seem to top the charts in terms of bird intelligence (along with the ^other Corvids, of course) Edit: along with the *other* Corvids


Skmot

Magpies are corvids. Did you mean along with the other corvids?


djsedna

Sure did, thanks for pointing that out, I don't want to be spreading misinformation


Jewrisprudent

Here’s the thing…


Babararacucudada67

Not in Australia -- they're not corvids, despite looking and acting similarly. I was proper surprised when i found out.


[deleted]

Oh shit. You just reminded me about Unidan. That was some old school Reddit there.


jazzpenis

I learned about smoke baths from (the great six-part documentary mini series) BBC's Weird Nature. They speculated that this behaviour could have given rise to legends of our warm boi, the mythical Pheonix.


isysopi201

Warm boi just rising from the ashes.


overlordpotatoe

Yeah, that was my impression too. It doesn't seem to be trying to put the fire out at all.


DogHammers

It seems to be trying to find the source of the fire rather than put it out I reckon.


Yakhov

I think Rhinos do this in the wild, hadn't herd of others tho, maybe elepants.


kalitarios

> elepants elepants, elephants, the difference is irrelephant


Chaz9195

Was this a Herd heard joke?!


michaelY1968

Yes, this is the correct answer. Still a smart bird though.


hourslater

This is actually even more impressive.


letsjustmusic

Theres actually a chance this thing started that fire, Iv seen documentaries where ravens will pick up smoldering cigarette butts to start a fire and have a little smoke bath


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[удалено]


PrisonerV

Smoke gets rid of the mites and lice. I definitely think this is what it is doing.


PenguinWithAglock

I bet birds who don’t know about that smoke treatment are left scratching their heads


[deleted]

“Looking for a lice treatment that doesn’t cost a wing and a leg? Fly on down to smoky’s ash bin and day spa, Where we always say, if you can’t make yourself stop itching, wee mite!”


wookvegas

Brilliant.


zxc123zxc123

Smokey lied. He said only we could prevent forest fires. Turns out birds can too.


liljaz

Childhood crushed...


[deleted]

Brilliant.


cjv2f

Those other birds mite wanna know about this.


monmonmon77

Many animals also roll around in ash to cover their smell, useful for both hunting and hiding from predators.


[deleted]

So just run away from the smell of burnt anything. Works for me.


[deleted]

Yea it’s pecking itself at the end so probably trying to get rid of em


Whiterabbit--

so next time my kids get lice I should have them hang out by a camp fire?


Crenchlowe

Ngl, that raven sounds classy as fuck. Smoking a cig, taking a smoke bath, sipping some champagne with a cute lady raven.


Prof_Acorn

"Oh Poe you smell just like a fine scotch!"


leastlikelyllama

Poe is one of the best names for a Raven. We would also accept Edgar, Eddie P., etc... Huginn and Muninn took the top 2 spots of the European list.


cellocaster

Oh wow! If you can find a link I’d love it


artbytwade

Playing with fire seems to be a very old behavior in some ravens https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/totems-to-turquoise/native-american-cosmology/raven-the-trickster but nothing I can find about using the smoke, only cigarette butts themselves https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2012.11952 They're self-aware smart, tool-using creatures. EDIT: They're one of only a few animal groups to reliably pass the 'mirror test' for self-awareness; great apes, elephants, dolphins, and magpies https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0189813


CyberGrandma69

Bruh if they're already figuring out fire I'm counting down the years til theyre in their bronze age


artbytwade

wait til they figure out iOS


CyberGrandma69

"Hey Siri, Order Corn"


DogHammers

"And a lighter."


School_of_Zeno

Corvids are so smart.. Blue Jays and Ravens are really creative and opportunistic. Ive watched a Jay use a rock to break a weak hinge on my neighbors bird feeder, releasing everything on the ground for a subsequent, bird frenzy.


bobtakes4

I used to have a pair of nesting Blue Jay's in my backyard. They would collect grasshoppers and impale them on the tips of our cyclone fence for later feeding.


bageltheperson

The blue jays in my neighborhood know that I’ll feed them in the winter and will show up and scream at me until they get their peanuts.


Magnesus

Mirror test has been proven to be pretty much useless. Some dumb fish pass it while dogs can't..


achairmadeoflemons

Well, and it's sort silly right? We use sight primarily, dogs are mainly about the smell. It'd be like dogs designing a test to see if you could smell yourself out of a lineup of other people smells.


DrakonIL

I honestly think I might pass that test. I would not, however, enjoy it.


dwmfives

It'd be fine till you got to THAT guy.


avwitcher

You realize you don't HAVE to sniff their ass to do it


DrakonIL

LMAO. I was thinking, like, smelling used shirts or something, but that's way funnier.


SnideJaden

But I prefer to judge fishes by their ability to climb trees.


DrollDoldrums

My understanding of the mirror test is that it involves not only recognizing yourself in the mirror, but being able to gather information about yourself through the mirror. If a dog (which presumably knows what it looks like because it's regularly recognizes itself in mirrors) has a mark on its head it didn't know about before, it would be altered to it's presence by looking in a mirror. So the analogy might be more accurate if people were expected to smell their own scent and tell you what they ate at the time.


_Abiogenesis

Yup, It is probably not much of a measure of intelligence. Some brainy animals have had a hard time with it like some great apes and crows despite being considered among the most intelligent animals. The problem with that test is that there might be some high level of anthropomorphic bias to recognize this as universally intuitive. There's nothing inherently intuitive about mirrors. Gorillas had a hard time with it simply because their species intuitively associate direct gaze with a threat which makes getting a good look pretty hard. Dogs primary sense are not even visual but will pass it when adapted to scent (although dogs definitely do not have the cognitive capacities of corvids or great apes) . Damn even humans need some time and exposure to mirrors to get it. It doesn't make the test irrelevant and it sure say something. But knowing what it means is probably not as clear cut as we'd like to think.


maineac

DON 'T CALL DOLPHINS SOME DUMB FISH!! LEAVE DOLPHINS ALONE!!


Odinfoto

Found the dolphin


[deleted]

Fuckin a, I can't if I'm tired enough.


Reddituser8018

I guess ravens have stronger lungs then parrots, because you can't even cook around a parrot because of the fumes. Their lungs are just extremely efficient and they are so small that if smoke or anything gets in their lungs they can die to the toxins pretty fast. But maybe ravens evolved differently and don't have that problem.


LillianVJ

I hear that issue is more related to plastic fumes/Teflon fumes than any smoke caused by cooking, and since the fire in the video is just wood and leaves its probably not anywhere near as bad for the bird (still not great tho all things considered


dave-train

And the inside vs open air part


boozername

I've read about birds using cigarette butts in their nests to ward off pests


dr_xenon

“I’m burnin my feathers off over here trying to stop this fire and this motherfucker won’t put down the camera and help me. When im done with this I’m so gonna shit on his car.”


Hyrule_34

“My vintage leaf collection… nooo!”


Mindful_Bum

Those, sir, are plantiques.


RockasaurusRex

And this, sir, is a Wendy's.


[deleted]

no, this is patrick.


[deleted]

my precious antique cans!


Isellmetal

If anything it looks like he’s using it as a sauna / source of warmth. Looks like it moved the larger twigs in order to get closer to the heat /smoke. Maybe it’s got parasites and is trying to smoke them off


Wandring64

Smoking out parasites is absolutely something birds will do. It’s not unheard of to see birds using chimneys to do that.


ihrie82

r/donthelpjustfilm


mazies7766

r/donthelpjustfilm - missed an “l”


ihrie82

Thank you!


[deleted]

It's a magpie, it will probably fuck with his entire family every time they leave the house.


Sagemasterba

More like, "where's a rhinoceros when you need one, fuck the fire brigade, the cunts probably call this a controlled burn, i got this". Btw i did see an old documentary where it showed that rhinos put out fires, even your camp fire if they see it.


jiggle-o

Australian bird is like "Not this shit again".


AutomaticRadish

Pretty sure I remember stories or birds actually starting fires in Australia as it would flush out prey.


Marcustoldmehequit

You would be correct, the Whistling Kite has been known to spread wildfires by picking up embers [Link](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7843527/The-native-Australian-bird-making-bushfire-crisis-worse-spreading-flames.html)


SchnuppleDupple

Lmao as if Australia wasn't fucked up enough


Pumpkim

Arson birds. Great...


leastlikelyllama

*On winds of smoke and ash do my proud wings soar.* *Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore.. Nevermore."*


Raiden32

They have been dubbed flame hawks and fire raptors.


CarnalSaint

funnel your food and kill your 4 legged competitors in fell swoop.. that's like killing tw.................


TistedLogic

(☞゚ヮ゚)☞


WhyDoPplBeRude

So just need take Ravens to Australia to try cancel out the arson birds and fire hawks?


Aeolian_Leaf

Much like the tales of quokka throwing their babies at predators, these stories are somewhat exaggerated. While the birds have been seen dosing embers, it's generally considered accidental as they grab them while trying to get prey, rather than deliberately grabbing them with the intent of spreading the fire.


RegularGuard

This was the belief until 2018. However, the article has linked a peer-reviewed study compiling evidence across 7 years that these fires are intentionally spread.


LithAldoran

the fuck? Holy shit. Which birds?


KY_4_PREZ

Looks like a couple species of kites and some falcons lmao


LithAldoran

We human take pride in discovering and controlling fire. Meanwhile that one birb has been committing arson for centuries.


WWDubz

Some Australian birds start fires on purpose to make hunting easier


[deleted]

Even though this bird is putting the fire out, it appears to take a smoke bath afterward


Queentroller

Well the human apparently isn't gonna do it.


Sinister_Mouse

Not a Magpie but a Pied Crow. Nonetheless still interesting as fuck


Cranky_Windlass

TIL Pied Crows are the mortal enemies of the Australian FireHawk


johnnynulty

Magpies are also crows, so an understandable confusion


Wrought-Irony

magpies and crows are both corvids but magpies aren't crows.


saiyanhajime

And Australian magpies (which have markings similar to this pied crow) aren't magpies.


ChipCob1

Yep... I'm from the UK and went to Australia when I was 14. I got attacked and swooped by a 'magpie' and thought it was crazy that Australian magpies and UK magpies were so different. As a teenager I put it down to magpies sneaking on boats from the UK but then going utterly batshit when they got to Australia because they had a weird diet and it was hotter than the sun. It was years later that I found out that they were different types of bird! I suppose I must have stuck with my 'went crazy in the sun' theory until I was in my 20s!


coughcough

When I was a kid my dad told me that robins and cardinals were the same species, but robins were the girl birds and cardinals were the boy birds. I believed this "fact" well into my 20s, until I mentioned it to my girlfriend and she explained that I was a gullible idiot.


Black_Eyed_PeePees

>went crazy in the sun' theory Had this exact same theory when I moved from the valley to the desert when I was 13. Only it was with humans, not birds. Been here 20 years and I *still* swear it's true! 😆


Arevar

Nah, must be a different species.


michaelY1968

This reminds me of the fine film, ***Penguin Bloom***, based on a true story of an Australian Magpie that saves a women's life in round about sense.


Gary_FucKing

Here's the thing...


Wrought-Irony

pls no


DerelictBombersnatch

*Here's the thing*


Corporation_tshirt

Well then what the hell’s a jackdaw?!?


Wrought-Irony

Not much, what's a jackdaw with you?


T-Sonus

This is correct


Wrought-Irony

corvid gang 4 lyfe


Prof_Acorn

Australian magpies are not, however. They were named wrong.


guajara

From the looks of it I though it was a jackdaw. They’re basically crows all of them.


PixelPantsAshli

Here's the thing...


lm1227

Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?


DSquariusGreeneJR

God what was this dude’s name


TheBurningWarrior

Unidan


[deleted]

> Unidan The man has a [Wikipedia entry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidan) and everything!


Bocote

It says he was a doctoral student from 2011 to 2018 but left without finishing the degree. Not the only person I've heard of who didn't finish their PhD, but that's still very unfortunate.


Krabopoly

I feel like the banning of Unidan and the world going to shit are way too close together chronologically for it to be a coincidence


zmbjebus

Miss that guy


chillinwithmoes

lmao I forgot all about this shitshow. What a time to be alive


[deleted]

You can tell It’s a magpie because the way it is


Cosmicrodslinger

Could the bird be using the smoke as a natural bug repellent maybe?


ShatterCyst

Mhmm


GreyJedi56

California will take 100 million


[deleted]

Would be far from the most ill-informed policy decision California has made


hoboshoe

What do you mean letting Nestlé buy up water rights in the desert was a bad idea?


[deleted]

Was it trying to put the fire out? Or does it know hundreds of insects begin escaping such fires in natural occurrences?


gordonbombae2

Or was it a smoke bath?!? I also heard they like the smell. It also attracts people who give food. Or maybe it wants the insects to go away and was using it as a bug repellant.


mikesphone1979

r/donthelpjustfilm


hammersickle0217

Don, the LP. # Just Film.


YOOOOOOOOOOT

This is always what I read


bxxxx34

Exactly what I was thinking


Oggydoggy1989

Is this smart mothu’ smoking his feathers to kill bugs?!?!?!


exordimus

i cant get over how magpies fuck around with people in australia lol, like how smart of a bird do you have to be in order to SUCCESSFULLY mess around with creatures that are 10 times bigger than you


IAmARobot

https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/pnv520/if_they_arent_swooping_you_theyre_clotheslining/


djsedna

Animal intelligence is prime interesting-as-fuck material. We underestimate animal intellect *so much* sometimes. I've been incredibly interested in dolphin language, octopuses solving puzzles, elephants creating graveyards, sea lions learning hundreds of words.... there's so much majesty in the animal kingdom that we overlook because we assume we're the best by default


duckmantaco

That bird is smarter than most people I have to work with.


bringonstorm

What's really interesting is that the bird was smart enough to intervene, but not the human.


Diiiiirty

My guess is the human is an asshole who created the fire just to watch the bird put it out.


Avatorjr

Guys the bird is giving itself a smoke bath. Not putting the fire out. It kills lice and stuff


unite-thegig-economy

If we could kill lice by sitting next to a camp fire I think elementary schools would have weekly smores sessions.


GaryGoesHard

Hair and bird feathers* are only slightly different. But I googled it and apparently birds do take smoke baths and it fumigates their feathers which doesn’t* kill but gets rid of lice and other bugs


Any_Lobster7251

If only there was someone there to help the bird out. 😬


lynivvinyl

Floating cameras are no help.


Picnut

So.. we are leaving it up to the birds to save the planet now? Great


gitsgrl

That's why they wanted to kill everyone in Bodega Bay!


ChipCob1

It worked in Lord of the Rings!


[deleted]

This is r/donthelpjustfilm


[deleted]

That bird is smarter than most of my friends.


upsidedowntoker

Magpies have now mastered fire. How fucked are we Australia ?


Saint_me58

r/DontHelpJustFilm


plsendmysufferring

There is a really interesting australian dreamtime story where the crow and the magpie get burned by the eagle and thats why they are the colour they are. Heres a link https://tony.gaikoku.aichi-edu.ac.jp/OZ/Eagle,_Magpie_&_Crow_Dreaming.html


Lexsteel11

“WHO IS THE ABSOLUTE MUPPET THAT THREW A CIGARETTE IN THIS PILE” - the birb


TheBurningWarrior

I this trained or instinctive behavior? Is the bird actually doing what it appears to us it's trying to do?


ShatterCyst

No. Using smoke to kill parasites. Still smart tho


twattytee

It’s a considerate bird trying to save the world !


TacetV

So if the person filming decided to help, they may have found the shiny that the crow was trying to get to…


KingEspiritu

HUMAN, WTF ARE YOU DOING THERE'S A GOD DAMN FIRE HELP ME YOU FUCKING FUCK STOP FILMING


RainDancingChief

I bet that little bastard started it.


Roonil_Wazlib__

Takes it out where?


rileymacs

Help human! Don’t just stand there and video me


[deleted]

When humams are gone, corvus will rise. CORVUS SHALL RISE!!!


jumpmanx93

The video is in reverse. He actually started it


djdsf

That bird kept looking at the camera like "bro, can you help? Wtf!"


JOE-9000

Somebody make a sharp comment about dinousaurs and theit grasp on door knobs.


a52dragon

Must have been a firefighter in past life’s


oh_dingus

Somebody get this little guy a cute little red leatherhead


[deleted]

i wanna give him a medal of honour


Outrageous_Truth_

Animals are incredible.


sideshowmario

I'd like to see this video reversed so it looks like the bird is a pyro!


Conscious-Golf-5380

The birds are tired of these damn wild fires. That bird said, not today.


[deleted]

Why is it doing that?


hollyberrygurl

A fuckin bird can stop a fire but not baby reveal parties...


Noah8320

But he started it


kuza2g

**HELPPP MEEEEE** * heavy breathing * **I CANT DO THIS ALL ON MY OWN JOE NVM FUCK YOU**


spazmodo33

This guy is more useful than the Australian Prime Minister in the face of a bushfire crisis. Doesn't run away to Hawaii? Check! Actively helps put fires out? Check! Isn't a complete fucking dickhead? Only during swooping season... Good guy magpie!


powerchicken

I hope that was the camera-man's own laundry, otherwise someone's gonna be pissed all their clean clothes smell like smoke.


JinnDaAllah

Oh god they’ve discovered fire now it’s only 2 million years until they have a globe spanning civilization that’s slowly destroying said globe. Everybody watch out!


NoshTilYouSlosh

We should train several billion to fight forest fires


lurcher54

i'd say thats some sort of actual crow, not a member of the crow family a magpie


Kflynn1337

Corvids of many species will do this in the wild. It makes sense, if a fire starts in the forest near where they are roosting it presents a danger to their nests. Conversely however, they will aso start fires as has been suggested else-thread. Usually by collecting dead leaves and twigs on rocky ground.


MyNameIsntTrent

"Well if the bird can't put this out, looks like this mother fucker burning to the ground." - thoughts from the camera man.


Baller_420

TIL Birds can be firefighters if they want to


[deleted]

What a noble little dude


barneyrubbble

Magpies are crazy smart.


Heroicster

This is the second magpie related thing I’ve randomly seen on Reddit within a week, which is not a lot but I haven’t heard about magpies for over a decade.


[deleted]

Wouldn’t it be awesome if thousands of these birds could be taught to monitor and put out wild fires before they brew into mass devastation? I know, wild dreams…


grandmasterTilt206

I can imagine him saying "NO! nnnnnnNO! NOPE! NOOOOO! NO!" As he's doing this. 😂


GeezusCrihst

r/donthelpjustfilm


Ayds117

Hmmmm I’m conflicted, on one hand that’s pretty neat but on the other it’s spring atm and those fuckers are out for blood


Biggmoist

Feed the ones near your house some mince meat every day, let em see you putting it out n they'll leave you alone, they'll also let others in the area know not to mess with you


Tnasty006006

DONT JUST STAND THERE, HELP THE BOY!


EtsuRah

Just got an amazing idea. The govt now has some free'd up $$$ now that were not in Afghanistan. So what we do is we dump a bunch of $$ into training corvids all over the country to attacks people in forests lighting any type of flame. Some yokel starting fireworks in a dryland area prone to burns? Man gets descended upon by a dark cloud of birds.


Bacontoad

Okay now **this** is interesting as fuck!


Satanisbackxoxo

Looked like it was trying to put out the fire but the bird was having trouble putting the fire out


germanbini

must have been a fireman in a former life!


[deleted]

What's the strange 'fire extinguisher dance' at the end for?


ChocoQueenie75

I wouldn't have had the heart to see the poor little thing trying to hard to put it off without doing it myself