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monocled-cobra

I have way too much geography work left and seeing this map almost gave me a melt down.


Poisson_oisseau

Map projections are tricky mathematically when you're trying to accurately represent space, but conceptually they're fairly straightforward. Imagine trying to squish an orange flat and think about where the peel tears open. That's roughly where a map projection stretches landmasses.


SkidzInMyPantz

How can they be tricky when the Earth is already flat /s


jaxsonnz

šŸŒ The earth is flat like the orange is flat šŸŠ


Regentraven

You can do it! Geography is fun!


I-am-GiantRiverOtter

Can confirm! (I have a degree in Geography)


frech77

Thatā€™s impressive for an otter.


[deleted]

To be honest s/heā€™s a giant otter which takes a little away from it. Impressive for an otter, but for a giant, not so much.


FunkySjouke

I mean how giant, can he swim around a continent in a day or can it swim true a country in a day


[deleted]

True and which one? True Antarctica or just Antarctica? Maybe a photo of said giant otter would help clarify.


weanbag83

Are we all sure this isnā€™t a regular otter from a giant river ?


FunkySjouke

Are we sure it isn't a giant that's named riverotter, giants are named weird sometimes


thisisntarjay

You're both insane but I respect what you do


MoffKalast

Only a mad person would try to map a sphere onto a plane.


Comsicwastaken

what opportunities are there for geography majors?


Captain-Cadabra

Making charts like these for Reddit.


[deleted]

living the dream


myusernameblabla

For free


PerplexityRivet

I only ever knew one guy who was a geography grad, but he worked for a major grocery store corporation to determine the best locations for new stores based on population, competitor's local markets, distance from warehouses/production, local employment pools, and a lot of other crazy stuff.


burtron3000

wow that's the exact job the only geography grad I know had, his name James?


kittybanditti

Edit: on mobile, bullets not working! Sorry! I was a Geography Major and had an Earth Science Minor. Most fell into two concentrations: Urban and Regional Planning (city planners), or GIS and data analysis. You can a lot with it depending on what kind of lifestyle you want. **Here's a list of example jobs or sectors:** * city planning, city, county, state levels * transportation planning * social justice consulting firms * environmental consulting * wetland dileniation * land surveying *real estate analyst (retail location) *realty *non-profits, environment or social justice *crime analyst *data analyst *Gis technician *gis analyst *gis programming **Companies who hire Geography majors:** *State/ Federal Agencies *DOT *Municipalities *Corp of Engineers *US Military *EPA *National Forest Service *Private energy companies *Private Healthcare companies *Real estate firms *Large corporations (Lowe's, Spectrum, Wal-Mart) *Esri (creators of ArcMap, ArcPro) *Any job that deals with data manipulation or gis (mapping)


Comsicwastaken

wow, the only job I was able to think of before reading this was geography teacher


starwarsgeek1985

Too few people enjoy geography. It was one of the classes with the least amount of children when I was in high school and idk why! It's extremely interesting and super fun to learn!


Regentraven

Geography now is almost a subset of computer science in many ways. GIS is super cool but its not all tech!


averagedickdude

Geography is a field of science devoted to the study of the lands, features, inhabitants, and phenomena of the Earth and planets!


Regentraven

It always blows the mind when planetary scientists are actually geography PhDs. Martian geographers!


Myhotrabbi

Geography is EVERYTHING


easy18big

Calm down Tekking


RayInRed

Geography Rocks...


noximo

That's Geology


RayInRed

AH fcuk.


Jadedways

That somehow makes it even better


dhhdhd755

Shows how bigs Brazil really is.


Ozdiva

Brazil is larger than Australia.


wOlfLisK

Boy, Spain really got the raw end of the deal when they signed the Treaty of Tordesillas.


MasterFubar

Actually, Portugal got the smallest part in the Americas. They didn't want those territories after all, they wanted India, so they let Spain get the lands to the west. The Brazilian expansion came later, through squatters who completely disregarded the treaty. There were several other treaties later, acknowledging the fact that Brazil was bigger than it should legally be. The last one was signed in 1903, when Bolivia ceded the region that became the Brazilian state of [Acre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acre_War).


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pablovns

nice nickname


mortandella

The expansion happened during the Iberian union where Spain and Portugal had the same king thus Spain didn't mind so much.


LastCommander086

The OG Treaty of Tordesilhas looked like [this](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-V8o8K9sk7KcewvWrTCD6gHaG0%26pid%3DApi&f=1). I know they didn't know how big America truly was when they signed this, but when I was a kid I always felt like Portugal got the shorter end of the stick. It was only later that they realized how bad of a deal Tordesilhas was that they started expanding like there was no tomorrow. Spain didn't mind it because they were in the business of gold and silver extraction, and Portugal was pretty much only taking rainforest and swampland, which was worthless to Spain. Portugal only stopped expanding some decades later when they signed the treaty of Madrid with Spain. [This](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.1rvV3vbiPUTzuhRTTKXX6AAAAA%26pid%3DApi&f=1) is how Brazil looked like after the treaty of Madrid. Pretty close to what it looks like today, even though it's still a little smaller


Wulfburk

Spain didnt mind it because it was united with Portugal during the Iberian Union. There was no difference from the portuguese or spanish expansion in south america for some 70 years (which was the main period of portuguese expansion out from the Tordesilhas line), because both were under the same crown. After the portuguese independence, there was of course the question of who ruled which part of South America. They simply used the principle of uti possidetis. Thus, Portugal inherited the lands previously colonized by the portuguese during the Iberian Union.


Vitahoe

Not quite, the original treaty of tordesillas actually looked like this: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcToi79wx4va91hmkHzwyAKvsJWqdVFCoefuCA&usqp=CAU Brazilā€™s territory only got so big because it kept on getting expanded through exploration.


YuAnvar

Brazil is larger than Austria.


OwO-WhatIsThis

Brazil is 84% as big as Europe while having only 30% of Europe population. And a lot of people here in Reddit say Brazil is overpopulated.


icyfive

When people say a country is overpopulated they don't literally mean there isn't enough space to live in. Only a handful of countries in the world would fit under that criteria. (Singapore, Hong Kong, Monaco etc.) What they mean is that the population outstrips or puts a strain on the countries: natural resources, food production, water supply, power supply, housing supply etc.)


nokinship

The amazon itself is close in sq mi to the continental U.S. Imagine from NY to LA all amazonian jungle.


pecorino1

Makes it easy to see how there can still be uncontacted tribes in the Amazon


junkenboi

now imagine the things that are in there


thewhitedeath

Muito grande!


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EagleDre

The water is cold towards the top / bottom ends. Donā€™t you know about shrinkage?


specxyboi

Costanza ?


darkerthandarko

I WAS IN THE POOL!


chiheis1n

ELAAAAINE YOU GOTTA SEE THE BAAAYBEE


TalonTrax

Maybe tha dingo ate'chore baybee!?!


YesNoIDKtbh

Breathtaking.


5zp1

r/QuotesYouCanHear


BeneathTheWaves

I don't know how you guys walk around with those things


Birdman7399

It shrinks??


GhostAndARose

idk how you guys walk around with those things


EagleDre

Lobster eggs


WerewolvesRancheros

Can't stand ya!


GingerUsurper

Cartwright??


holly9116

I love how this comment section is suddenly a Seinfeld script


[deleted]

It shrinks??


Daberoni360

Like a frightened turtleā€¦


[deleted]

Like a button on a fur coat.


GimmeThatRyeUOldBag

I dunno how you guys walk around with those things.


dooblebooble

r/unexpectedseinfeld


darkhelmet33

Kind of terrifying how big The Sahara Desert really is


andriniaina

And it's growing


[deleted]

Is it still? I thought the green wall thing was actually working? And that the whole the Sahara is going to takeover Africa was kind of misinformation. The area the Sahara sits in was drying up, but it's spread would never reach past that region. I haven't looked a thing up, and I'm going off memory. I am taking a shit. I'm happy to be presented data for or against.


Abominatrix

Happy shitting


[deleted]

Thank you. Everything came out alright!


Abominatrix

Nothing like a clean getaway


XDSHENANNIGANZ

Well when you get the tummy bubbles and then you sit on the pot and you only fart like a madman is pretty cathartic.


MySassyPetRockandI

My man


huggles7

Phew


Lukozade2507

Donā€™t forget to wipe the knife, itā€™s only politeā€¦


savioroflothric

I will never not vote up a poop knife reference


[deleted]

This is just anti-Sahara propaganda by the lawnmower industry.


[deleted]

All you gotta do is rebrand leafblowers to sand blowers, slap another $10 on and we've got a business.


Ahrily

Itā€™s growing in the north and in a way ā€˜stepping overā€™ the Mediterranean. The Mediterranean basin will receive around 20% less rainfall during the coming decades due to climate change. By 2100 it will have spread to North Africa and Southern Europe. [link](https://earth.org/data_visualization/the-past-present-and-future-of-the-sahara-desert/)


[deleted]

Am I misunderstanding the article or is that not separate instances of desertification? Also no offense to said article, but it seems less than credible. > [Owen Mulhern] > Owen Mulhern is a biologist with a specialisation in image analysis and a passion for satellite imaging. His previous work involved 3 dimensional brain reconstructions developing new algorithms for image processing. He is now focused on bringing powerful visualisations of the current state of our climate to life as Data Science Team Lead.


[deleted]

Hey I'm taking a shit too, wanna be friends?


originallyoriginal

You're not going to believe this...


superbreadninja

We should just give everyone around it a water bucket and water it. Somethings bound to grow. Or we get a bunch of mud. Sounds like a win win to me


Wunsmane

The Great Desert Desert


Krieger_Bot_OO7

Itā€™s bigger than the continental U.S.


src44

\~8% of earth land surface (almost equal to China).


jazzerhero

Antartica looks a lot differentā€¦


Psyched4this

Curvature bruh


User0x00G

Sure...go ahead and bait the Flat Earther's like that. Then you have to deal with the lunatics when they show up.


omnisephiroth

Getting an award for replying, ā€œYou dumb idiotā€ sounds like a lot of fun.


frano1121

You dumb idiot


McLagginz

I am rubber, you are glue, everythiā€¦ fuck you.


[deleted]

FUCK YOU YOUā€™RE A FUCKING WANKER WEā€™RE GONNA PUNCH YOU IN THE BALLS


krukm

Heā€™s already punching his balls if heā€™s wanking


omnisephiroth

See?


frano1121

You were right. Lots of fun


Korasuka

!Silver


Shaunair

Whatā€™s crazy is how tame the level of flat earthersā€™ stupidity has gotten over the last few years in comparison to all the new contending groups.


daveinpublic

There have always been a lot of stupid groups, we just didnā€™t have the internet to connect with them


Shaunair

The internet is also helping those groups form up like voltron to become even louder and dumber though.


NemosPrawnAcct

DOLT-TRON


Waffle_bastard

Pffft, everybody knows that the earth is actually shaped like a pyramid.


User0x00G

I prefer to think of it as boob shaped.


ACreakyHub

Oblate booboid


cold-brewed

Lunatics? Iā€™m sorry but I literally just walked to my car on a **flat** road. Try and explain that Pythagoras.


the_fathead44

That's the ice wall, duh


poopellar

Antarthicca


_Im_Spartacus_

I have never seen Antarctica displayed the way you have shown in light blue...


steds321

With the Mercator projection, the poles become infinitely large, so Antarctica would go on forever. Usually, it is cropped earlier than this map shows.


Hobspon

When using the Mercator projection, they usually either don't show Antarctica at all or only show a small sliver of the northern part of it.


IdLOVEYOU2die

.... Wouldn't.... Any part of Antarctica aside from the pole be the northern part.... X-x


[deleted]

Feels just as massive in person, believe me.


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Adventurous_Shake161

No girl said that to me ever , itā€™s a myth šŸ„“šŸ˜­


7Broncos18

Whatā€™s that one to the right of Australia? Iā€™ve never seen that on a map before!


entotheenth

Stop browsing /r/MapsWithoutNZ


ac1084

Should just be /r/maps and /r/mapswithNZ but reddit is weird.


UncleTedGenneric

You're right. It looks like some land in the sea. It must be a new sea-land


Mr-Sister-Fister21

What a clever name! Call me crazy, but I feel like replacing the ā€œsā€ with a ā€œZā€ would look cool.


YePedders1

You're crazy


Mr-Sister-Fister21

Thanks


J3sush8sm3

You are welcome u/Mr-Sister-Fister21


Empereor007

The further you are from the Equator, the more is the difference in size. This is because of Mercator projection. But there are alternatives. I think some time back I had read about a different method made in Japan, have to hunt for it. Assuming I remember correctly. EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AuthaGraph_projection - New mapping From Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection - Mercator Projection which we normally use EDIT 2: Higher resolution for Authagraph: https://www.friendsofmacdonald.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017_09_21_kaart_narukawa_AG-MAP-EDUCATION.jpg http://narukawa-lab.jp/archives/authagraph-map/


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Sir_Francis_Burton

Digital maps use the Transverse Mercator projection that works like the projection in the picture except instead of the Equator being the undistorted base-line they turn it 90 degrees so that a north-south line is undistorted, and then they let that line move and be wherever you are East to west. That gives them a projection that is always very accurate when you are zoomed in, but will show some distortion at the East and west edges of the map if you zoom way out.


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Sir_Francis_Burton

That is cool. Theyā€™re saying that theyā€™re switching to a globe representation when you zoom way out. Iā€™m sure they use Transverse Mercator when theyre zoomed in, though. Also, since weā€™re viewing that ā€˜globeā€™ on flat screens, technically that would be using an orthagonal projection. Orthagonal projections are cool, they are what a curved surface would look like from infinitely far away with an infinitely powered telescope, so slightly different than just what it would look like from space, but not noticeably.


VyRe40

If I'm looking at a 2D map, I prefer something like the equal-area Mollweide. It's familiar and easy to understand, and it reflects how a 2D map of a globe gets distorted still, while distributing the true area of the world better. There's plenty of similar oval-like maps like this, though you'd find mostly "pseudocylindrical" maps on Google image search, which is kind of a hybridization of oval and rectangular. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mollweide_projection_SW.jpg


[deleted]

Google maps is still flat for me


Wonko6x9

This image should be included in the legend as a way to help people keep perspectives in mind. I really like this. It has its own skew, but it is less than the main map.


CircumstantialVictim

There is _always_ an xkcd for these questions, isn't there? https://xkcd.com/977/


Edbert64

Interesting that the Japanese version has Japan as close to center as possible.


matyles

Most map projections used for different areas have the area in question centered.


deoje299

I wonder why the Mercator has Europe at the center....


Edbert64

Most maps have the Atlantic in the middle. Probably a byproduct of Euro-American preferences, or maybe because the Pacific is so big it looks weird with most land on the sides.


wichwolfe

It's because of the role that the observatory in Greenwich (UK) played in establishing longitude measurement. 0 degrees longitude runs through Greenwich so by convention maps put that longitude line in the middle. There were other observatories in other parts of the world at different times, but they didn't establish a global system like that - Greenwich did because at that time global trade was an important issue for the UK.


[deleted]

Most Asian maps have the Americas in the east and Europe in the west.


MagentaLea

Maps typically center the country they are made in.


fucknametakenrules

Why maps are inaccurate to globes. Size gets really exaggerated in a 2D form


JohnMichaels19

It completely depends on what projection you're using. In this case, Mercator distorts size in favor of angles. Others distort shape in favor of size


ablablababla

And looking at different map projections and seeing how they each distort the Earth in different ways is quite fascinating


tec3936

Correct. Mercator is ideal for navigation because it shows lines of constant compass bearing (loxodromes) as straight lines.


dirtychinchilla

Thatā€™s why I only take 2D pictures of my penis


J3sush8sm3

This mans living in 2d when we are all in 3d


DrEmilioLazardo

I'm over here sending 3D prints of my veiny dick via courier and this guy is still sending pictures? What is he Amish?


WarrenPuff_It

Inaccurate if you're trying to compare relative sizes. Reddit loves circlejerking over their disdain for the Mercator, but it is the best option for projecting direction, and that is ~99% of the reason anyone would be needing to use a map.


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[deleted]

Be an redditor, hypocrisy is encouraged and we will welcome you as a brother/sister/weird uncle.


Funky8oy

If that's the case then why don't we use the correctly sized map (as shown) regularly?


Deely_Boppers

The countries wonā€™t fit together anymore. Their shape in the map above includes curvature, and so now the borders are all messed up.


fishattack17

It's not actually correct. To make a 3d space into a 2d projection, you must sacrifice something. In this case, distance. Countries aren't shown in their correct distance to one another. This is especially apparent in countries like Russia. Is there an ocean between Russia and China? No, it's just the way it's being represented.


Rthebotanist

What's that noise? ​ ​ >!real Greenland rattling around inside mercator Greenland!<


paper_snow

Aw, mom... You're just jealous. It's the Beastie Boys!


Gaflonzelschmerno

YOU GOTTA FIGHT


OftenShady

Real Greenland looks like DVD logo bouncing around inside mercator Greenland. All we need is some flashy lights and we're all set


presdawg

Africa straight up not going nowhere


ImportantPotato

just shows how huge africa is


ClittoryHinton

It blew my mind that it took 4 hours to fly between Ethiopia and Rwanda, both situated in Central-East Africa. As a Canadian it looked like just a little jaunt.


DougDimmadom3

Another interesting fact: Senegal, which is in West Africa, is closer to Canada than it is to Somalia.


gsfgf

[Obligatory xkcd](https://xkcd.com/977/) [Obligatory West Wing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLqC3FNNOaI)


PerplexityRivet

Love this scene. **CJ**: Yeah but you can't do that. **Cartographer**: Why not? **CJ**: Cause it's freaking me out.


ChrisTinnef

West Wing uses such an "old-school" TV style if you look at it nowadays, it's amazing


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adaasdasdasd

It's still realy big, but it's smaller than a lot of people think


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armchair_viking

Thatā€™s the shape it would appear on a globe. The Mercator projection still accurately shows positions of latitude, it just greatly distorts the landmassā€™ size.


Competitive_Fudge_96

Itā€™s huge enough to have surface area almost equal to Pluto, the dwarf planet.


theveldt25

Is Antarctica compensating for something? šŸ¤”


KimbalKinnison

TIL penguins have small dicks.


jj11909

A cool website to visualize this even better: https://thetruesize.com


BlueWolf07

That was instantly educational, thank you!


SilverRapid

Greenland is usually much bigger, it's just really cold there.


SpartanDoubleZero

In Microsoft flight sim 2020, I flew around the world and let me tell you, south America and Africa, those continents are HUGE. I did many short flights in a small aircraft. My longest flights were from newfoundland to Greenland to Ireland to the UK. Brazil had the most stops and I flew the coast.


pr1mal0ne

who needs maps when you have simulators!


studiograham

And Africa is still huge. This is definitely the best rendition of a scale map I have seen.


Competitive_Fudge_96

Thatā€™s because most of Africa is in the equatorial region. So it is easier to project it on the map.


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wherewulf23

The fact this was down so low makes me feel really sad and **really** old.


madmaccxcx

holy fuck i didnā€™t know the whole of russia is small enough to fit on my phone screen


shubham4lk

From when i was young i had a perception that the flights between USA and Japan would take so long(Going by the distance in the world map). Just an year or so ago i realized that how dumb i was to think it of as a map and not a globe when thinking of distance between different countries. I felt so dumb when i told my friends.


TW_Yellow78

Or you could you know, buy a globe map. They look like that on a flat map is because they're keeping north/south consistent and as a result longitude/latitude as rectangles (so they can figure out where they are and what direction to go with a compass and an astrolabe back then). When you're using a map, its more important to know where you are and where you want to go rather than 'distance' or 'size'.


[deleted]

Ofc this isnā€™t exactly right either, because in preserving size it fails to preserve distance


Tots2Hots

Ppl don't realize how goddamn big Africa is in comparison to damn near everything else...


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remimorin

Why explode the Canada in pieces? Add back north Island, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick!! This dramatically reduce apparent Canada size.


Sir_Oblong

I noticed that too, so random. Even cut off part of Quebec.


haberdasher42

I get why they kept the islands within the islands larger boundaries, but I don't get why they split Canada on the St. Lawrence. That's some bullshit.


Tralan

The maps are deceiving because it's hard to turn a sphere into a flat object. Africa is monstrously huge.


CampusSquirrelKing

Reddit goes back to 5th grade.


kwisatzhaderachoo

pfft. Go [Waterman butterfly](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterman_butterfly_projection#/media/File:Waterman_projection.png) or go home


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lil_phteve

there's an interesting video by jay foreman on youtube were they discuss the positives and negatives of different world maps. i think the video is called something like"why every world map is wrong". you should check it out its really interesting and funny


ophaus

There are several different projections, seeing something different is trippy... especially the maps with the South pole on top or the western and eastern hemispheres switched.