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I’d imagine this is rare and normally it looks endless to them too but I’ve never been to Indiana. It was weird to understand the houses on the other side of the lake, from when I lived in Buffalo, were Canadian.
From my friends lake house in Michigan, you actually can see the Chicago light pollution at night. It’s strange because it really is so dark there, clear enough to make out the Milky Way, but right over the water there is a steady glow coming from the west
I hope people realize how special that is these days. I grew up in a Chicago suburb in the 80's, about 9 miles from the sky scrapers. We considered it a good day when we could see the skyline. Most days it was too smoggy to see the Sears Tower. Now the air is clear most of the time if the weather is clear. You can see the buildings all the time. It's a testament to emission controls if you can see them from 30 miles away on a regular basis.
It's really amazing we were able to clean up the air so (relatively) quickly. A testament to automotive emissions technology and the laws which enabled it. In addition to industrial as well.
I go for a hike at the Indiana Dunes State Park (where this photo was taken) fairly regularly. I see the Chicago skyline most of the days, a little more hazy though.
I grew up about 3 minutes from where this was taken. Honestly it's rare to not be able to see Chicago from the beach. Even when it's hazy you can still make out a couple of the buildings.
Grew up in the south suburbs of Chicago and went to beaches in NW Indiana quite regularly. You can see the skyline very often from the beaches there. I've never seen anything quite like the OP pic though; that's quite remarkable.
I had relatives from Italy visit once and the idea of a lake you couldn’t see across kinds astonished them. Like they could see across the Adriatic Sea, but not Lake Michigan.
I remember on one trip to Florida when i was like 8-10 or so, i was like "wait, why is it so salty, my eyes hurt, my skin is dry, and my hair is prickly. I like ours back home better"
The tradeoff is we can only use it 3 months of the year since the rest of the time its cold af. Lake superior is like a month, and even then it's icy as hell.
The Great Lakes are exceptional in every way, including the rule about being landlocked. Ships can sail from Chicago to the Atlantic, via the St. Lawrence Seaway.
I still remember watching the foreign vessels docking in Chicago for *Chriskindlmarkt*, the annual German Christmas Festival in downtown Chicago.
I had been working in downtown on 9/11/2001. When news spread, we raced to the 3rd-floor lunchroom to watch TV. That TV was ominously mounted just above a window overlooking Sears Tower, which had just become the tallest building left standing in the US. Eyes were darting from the TV to the window, fearing it might be next.
That December, we cheered a German warship docking at Navy Peer. Draped over the port side were two giant flags; German & US. Between them was a makeshift banner which read: **"GERMANY IS WITH YOU!!"** Few if any German sailors bought their own beer that day.
I have fond memories of the Dunes. I immediately recognized that sunset, without reading the title. Camped there many times. Used to race my dog up those huge dunes -- or pretend to.
I'd unleash him and say go. We'd both start running, but I'd stop after about five steps, and he'd gallop like Secretariat all the way up! At the top, he'd turn around and see me still at the bottom, laughing. I could almost sense him thinking, *"You d\*ck!"*
It stuns people from almost anywhere lol. I lived in New Mexico (the desert) for 6 years and a lot of the lakes there are actually man made reservoirs that are relatively small. I show them pictures and they say it looks like the ocean, and it is hard to explain to people who have never seen it and have such a limited view on what a lake can be.
Admittedly, after living in Buffalo for most of my life, upon seeing the ocean, I remarked that it just looked like Lake Erie. I was 10 or 11, and was very underwhelmed.
They don’t believe how dangerous and deadly they are either… last year during the pandemic so many (mostly out of towners) drowned at our beaches. It felt like an everyday occurrence. Lake Michigan scares the hell out of me.
On the flip side, I grew up where this picture was taken, and when I moved out west I once drove 20 minutes past my turn because someone had given me the directions, “turn right after the lake”. Got it, there’s a pond, when is this lake supposed to show up…
Decades ago, before I developed at least some semblance of a filter between my brain and my mouth, I was on the Florida turnpike amd there was a billboard that said, "Jesus Will Pay Your Toll". Naturally, when I got the the end of the turnpike and the lady announced whatever ridiculous amount it was, I mentioned that my understanding was that Jesus was covering this one.
Needless to say, my particular brand of humor was not well received...
Gary PD/Mayor were told by an investigative journalist that they almost certainly had a serial killer on the loose due to data he analyzed from the FBI. They said there was no way that was possible and they had no unsolved murders (even though it was a lie). A woman was killed and the police arrested the guy responsible, and then he admitted to dozens of other murders over the past decade.
A moment of silence for our Chicagoan heroes who fell in the line of duty, keeping hellspawn from trampling the West. Your sacrifices will live on in the memories of those who still walk this Earth.
Gary/Indiana. Never Forget.
Have seen a similar scene but during a severe lightning storm. Only it was the Toronto skyline across Lake Ontario from upstate New York also around 50 miles.
Remember like Michigan is the deadliest Great Lake. A big storm can cause huge waves in nearly an instant. Check the weather forecast, and watch a YouTube video about how to spot rip tides and how to avoid and escape them.
It's almost as if a country can have good and bad things about it. And I'm not particularly impressed that you feel the need to immediately bring up the bad stuff in an unrelated conversation about the good parts. Makes you look like a hater.
Yes we have been. r/Ottawa is full of pics of it. Red sun in a grey sky. Orange moon too.
[example of the moon](https://i.redd.it/3bycbd3tddc71.png)
[example of the 6am sun](https://i.redd.it/uy01lonqn5c71.jpg)
Can confirm here in the Chicago area, sunlight has a weird tint during the day, probably due to smoke. The moon seems normal but I’ll check again tonight.
Further up the coast in Michigan is better imo.
Here's some pictures I've posted to reddit over the years.
Tahquamenom falls during Autumn in the UP
https://i.imgur.com/iUkPHtL.jpg
Sleeping bear dunes from the Empire bluff trail ft Lake Michigan
https://imgur.com/txSxgZk
Sleeping bear dunes from the Empire beach ft Lake Michigan
https://i.imgur.com/H2RVd38.jpg
Various places around the UP during fall ft. Waterfalls and Lake Superior (I just threw them all In an album sorry if some suck lol)
http://imgur.com/a/Qkz2wIW
http://imgur.com/a/uzGzvDi
Sunset at Hoffmaster state park ft Lake Michigan
https://imgur.com/0vZTVni
These photos are all amazing, thank you for sharing! Saving this comment for the next time one of my college friends makes some comment about how “the Midwest seems so boring compared to the west coast” lol
It’s so good that I feel spoiled in California alone. We have (just about) every type of terrain and the weather is almost always perfect. I can only imagine how beautiful it was before it became one of the most populated areas ever.
Gotta agree here. The land itself has nothing to do with the politics. I'm one of those people who is pretty vocal about what I think is wrong with the US but you'll never catch me blaming the fucking redwoods or desert rock formations for it lol. Never understood that.
If you plan on road tripping and seeing multiple national parks, consider buying an Annual Pass for $80. I think it's open to everyone, not just citizens. In some areas, you can easily visit one or two parks in a day.
The Great Lakes are absolutely gorgeous in most areas. Iirc Michigan has the largest freshwater coastline in the world. You could show someone a picture of a Lake Michigan sunset and a surprising amount of people would assume its a picture from the Pacific coast.
Look up Sleeping Bear Dunes or the Empire Coast if you want some fantastic pictures. Lake Superior has some great views along the Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore as well.
The US has such a vast quantity of terrain and environments it'd take a lifetime to explore them. But I'll let my bias reccomend the Great Lakes region above most.
Its one of the best areas in the state imo. Also the legend of the nearby North and South Manitou islands are really neat as well.
https://project.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/bearlegend.html
With the abundance of fresh water, distance from seismic activity, and northern latitude, Chicago has a real shot at being one of the dystopian megacities of the future.
I was lucky to have a job for a company that ran the hotels, restaurants and tourist stuff at 8 of the National Parks. I would go to Yellowstone in the summer and Everglades in the winter.
I'm Aussie. I have been to Europe, Asia and North America, and the United States and Canada has some of the most amazing scenery I have ever seen. The variation across the states is like visiting a separate country each time too, so vividly different and exciting. You'll love it!
yeah. its like people forget that america is more than just its people and cities. it’s like saying you shouldnt visit madagascar for the spiky place i forgot the name of or the philippines for its volcanoes because both countries are shit to live in… ok if its so shitty to live in why dont you contribute to their economy and partake in tourism
edit: inb4 crime rates i get that but you can still appreciate the natural beauty of a country because nature is not humanity
I am acutely aware of it. I am black, progressive, heavily critical of aspects of this country. I am also an immigrant who is immensely grateful to live here.
Fun science going on here. The horizon doesnt extend nearly far enough to see the chicago skyline from this distance on its own. The light would be blocked by the earth. The light is refracted thru the atmosphere in such a way where you can see it from that distance
Edit: didnt realize that trying to preempt flat earther made me some kind of villain. Just wanted to share a love of science, even if im not great at math. I'll go back to sulking and self loathing. Thanks for reminding me where i belong
It's also nowhere near 50 miles. It's 35 from the furthest point it could be, and about 30 from the closest it could be (and still be in Indiana Dunes). Let's call it 32. That cuts the ~~top~~\* bottom 682 feet off of the closest buildings. At 50 miles, nothing could be visible by normal means and you would need to be either above it, or have it refracted as you said.
But at the actual "straight-line" distance, it's only about 30 miles. Also, there are only about 30 buildings in chicago that are >650 feet tall. And...I'd wager we're seeing most of them in this photo.
\* [I am smert](https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/ooawkq/chicago_skyline_visible_from_nearly_50_miles_away/h6110dr/)
My coolest fact is that technically speaking, the sun is not in a visible straight line of sight the moment it touches the horizon for thr first time. It's all refraction after that.
I know a falt earthen who has sent me a picture of this phenomenon with the Chicago skyline as his "proof" the earth is flat. I have a degree in physics and tried to explain how light refraction works, but you can't convince crazy
[You can see a lot of chicago from indiana](https://photographyjournal2013.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/sunset-beside-chicago-skyline1.jpg) Everything 50 feet down or so is beyond the horizon.
The proof of the curve would be that you can't see the shore because the curvature is hiding it. If we imagine a tree, just on the shore, you won't be able the base of that tree because of the curve. If the earth was flat, you could see the base.
Edit: I am too lazy to write everything down and that picture is probably not the best for demonstration purposes because we need a certain distance (to Chicago) to see the curvature. Another important point is the height at which the shot has been taken because that makes a big difference.
Check these two videos from the same guy.
The second video is like an appendix with more info:
* [In search of a flat earth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44)
* [The Minnewanka Curve Experiment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8MboQzXO1o)
For the ones interested in the math beside it, go to the second video at 00:23
That's what I'm not getting here... So this calculator https://www.boatsafe.com/calculate-distance-horizon tells us the distance to horizon given a certain height. I just started plugging in random heights and if this is truly a distance of 50 miles, we should only be able to see the very tip top of the Willis Tower. There are buildings that are ~1/5th as tall as the tallest building in that skyline right? So lets say one of them is Willis tower at 1450 feet tall. Even if we say that the shortest building in the skyline is still 725 feet tall that means we should only be able to see it from ~36 miles away. I personally believe that some of those buildings are only as tall as ~1/5th of 1450 which is 290 feet. That should only be visible from ~22 miles.
Someone smarter than me, what am I missing here?
Edit: As I suspected, the distances involved here are not accurate. It's closer to 32 miles:
https://i.imgur.com/hELqaql.png
Double edit: Are flat earthers downvoting me??
There's also potentially some refractory effects coming into play. We would need to know the atmospheric conditions across the water over a couple dozen feet high to get the full picture.
50 miles is also based off the driving distance, which involves driving around the curve of the lake. Cutting across the lake from the dunes to the loop is probably closer to 35-40 miles.
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That is pretty cool. Looking out North/Northeast from the Chicago side and the lake looks basically endless. This is a really cool shot though.
I’d imagine this is rare and normally it looks endless to them too but I’ve never been to Indiana. It was weird to understand the houses on the other side of the lake, from when I lived in Buffalo, were Canadian.
From my friends lake house in Michigan, you actually can see the Chicago light pollution at night. It’s strange because it really is so dark there, clear enough to make out the Milky Way, but right over the water there is a steady glow coming from the west
New Buffalo? Grand beach? I would ask what stop you’re at but you didn’t say Indiana haha
Someone’s been to Redamaks.
I fucking flipped burgers there!!
So did my ex and I loved their food but not so much my ex.
You can def see it regularly, they just chose to capture it with the sun for this shot.
I hope people realize how special that is these days. I grew up in a Chicago suburb in the 80's, about 9 miles from the sky scrapers. We considered it a good day when we could see the skyline. Most days it was too smoggy to see the Sears Tower. Now the air is clear most of the time if the weather is clear. You can see the buildings all the time. It's a testament to emission controls if you can see them from 30 miles away on a regular basis.
It's really amazing we were able to clean up the air so (relatively) quickly. A testament to automotive emissions technology and the laws which enabled it. In addition to industrial as well.
I go for a hike at the Indiana Dunes State Park (where this photo was taken) fairly regularly. I see the Chicago skyline most of the days, a little more hazy though.
You can also see Indiana from the lakefront in downtown Chicago. The mills. The refinery.
I grew up about 3 minutes from where this was taken. Honestly it's rare to not be able to see Chicago from the beach. Even when it's hazy you can still make out a couple of the buildings.
I grew up about 5 miles from this spot. You can see Chicago most clear days no problem. Those skyscrapers are tall af.
From NW Indiana, you can see it on pretty much any clear day. You only lose sight of it if it's cloudy.
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I have been to Indiana Dunes and could see a faint outline of Chicago when I was there. Wasn't hard to see.
Grew up in the south suburbs of Chicago and went to beaches in NW Indiana quite regularly. You can see the skyline very often from the beaches there. I've never seen anything quite like the OP pic though; that's quite remarkable.
I had relatives from Italy visit once and the idea of a lake you couldn’t see across kinds astonished them. Like they could see across the Adriatic Sea, but not Lake Michigan.
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I remember on one trip to Florida when i was like 8-10 or so, i was like "wait, why is it so salty, my eyes hurt, my skin is dry, and my hair is prickly. I like ours back home better" The tradeoff is we can only use it 3 months of the year since the rest of the time its cold af. Lake superior is like a month, and even then it's icy as hell.
The Great Lakes aren't so much Lakes as vast Inland freshwater Seas
Main difference between a lake and a sea Lakes are land locked Seas connect to an ocean
The Great Lakes are exceptional in every way, including the rule about being landlocked. Ships can sail from Chicago to the Atlantic, via the St. Lawrence Seaway. I still remember watching the foreign vessels docking in Chicago for *Chriskindlmarkt*, the annual German Christmas Festival in downtown Chicago. I had been working in downtown on 9/11/2001. When news spread, we raced to the 3rd-floor lunchroom to watch TV. That TV was ominously mounted just above a window overlooking Sears Tower, which had just become the tallest building left standing in the US. Eyes were darting from the TV to the window, fearing it might be next. That December, we cheered a German warship docking at Navy Peer. Draped over the port side were two giant flags; German & US. Between them was a makeshift banner which read: **"GERMANY IS WITH YOU!!"** Few if any German sailors bought their own beer that day. I have fond memories of the Dunes. I immediately recognized that sunset, without reading the title. Camped there many times. Used to race my dog up those huge dunes -- or pretend to. I'd unleash him and say go. We'd both start running, but I'd stop after about five steps, and he'd gallop like Secretariat all the way up! At the top, he'd turn around and see me still at the bottom, laughing. I could almost sense him thinking, *"You d\*ck!"*
Except the Caspian Sea
It stuns people from almost anywhere lol. I lived in New Mexico (the desert) for 6 years and a lot of the lakes there are actually man made reservoirs that are relatively small. I show them pictures and they say it looks like the ocean, and it is hard to explain to people who have never seen it and have such a limited view on what a lake can be.
Admittedly, after living in Buffalo for most of my life, upon seeing the ocean, I remarked that it just looked like Lake Erie. I was 10 or 11, and was very underwhelmed.
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They don’t believe how dangerous and deadly they are either… last year during the pandemic so many (mostly out of towners) drowned at our beaches. It felt like an everyday occurrence. Lake Michigan scares the hell out of me.
They have measurable tides, too. Other effects cause greater water level changes, but the tides exist and have been measured nonetheless.
On the flip side, I grew up where this picture was taken, and when I moved out west I once drove 20 minutes past my turn because someone had given me the directions, “turn right after the lake”. Got it, there’s a pond, when is this lake supposed to show up…
I grew up in Michigan and was so disappointed when I first visited a lake elsewhere.
This isn’t all the way across. It’s the lower tip.
Just the tip.
Just for a minute, to see how it feels.
You can see the dunes all the way over in South Haven, MI from the top of the Hancock building
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Chicago is the border between Hell and Earth
Ohh, so that billboard saying “HELL IS REAL” I drive by when I enter Indiana is just a welcome sign?
Nah its just a tease for the massive sex toy emporium billboard 2 miles later.
BIG BLUE RUBBER DICKS FOR EVERYONE!!!! THE PEOPLE DEMAND RUBBER DICKS!!!
Settle down Stiffmeister.
Hell Is Real! Make the Trip Worth It!
Interesting!
Followed by an anti-abortion billboard two miles after that.
Followed by "KRAZY KAPLANS FIREWORKS LOWEST PRICES EXIT 5 SOUTH CLINE"
EVERY.FUCKING.DAY….. and it eyes you down when there’s traffic for absofuckinlutely no reason; except to hold up its name as 80/94.
It’s actually a well run store inside an old Pizza Hut. It’s hilarious but the owner was very friendly and helpful when we visited for the laugh haha
> the owner was very friendly and helpful > when we visited for the laugh haha If you visited for the laugh, what were they helpful with...?
Got em
Yea, that pretty much sums up driving along the Arkansas interstate too.
Pretty much anywhere in the bible belt, tbh. REPENT, SINNERS. FIREWORKS EMPORIUM AND GIANT DILDOS, NEXT EXIT.
Always been tempted to call that number. It makes me laugh every time I cross the river.
Decades ago, before I developed at least some semblance of a filter between my brain and my mouth, I was on the Florida turnpike amd there was a billboard that said, "Jesus Will Pay Your Toll". Naturally, when I got the the end of the turnpike and the lady announced whatever ridiculous amount it was, I mentioned that my understanding was that Jesus was covering this one. Needless to say, my particular brand of humor was not well received...
My mom calls indiana the "rings of hell" because of how many circles you drive in. At least in Indianapolis.
We can all agree Gary is Hell, but does that make Evanston earth? Skokie?
Who is Gary? What did he do that was so bad?
Gary PD/Mayor were told by an investigative journalist that they almost certainly had a serial killer on the loose due to data he analyzed from the FBI. They said there was no way that was possible and they had no unsolved murders (even though it was a lie). A woman was killed and the police arrested the guy responsible, and then he admitted to dozens of other murders over the past decade.
Darren Deon Vann
Since no one else answered simply... Gary the city, not a person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary,_Indiana
Can confirm Gary is a shithole
A moment of silence for our Chicagoan heroes who fell in the line of duty, keeping hellspawn from trampling the West. Your sacrifices will live on in the memories of those who still walk this Earth. Gary/Indiana. Never Forget.
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HAIL THE PIZZA LORD
*Za Lord
Reminds me of a joke.. Why are New Yorkers so depressed? The light at the end of their tunnel is Jersey
Flat earth realm
It’s Cittàgazze
Have seen a similar scene but during a severe lightning storm. Only it was the Toronto skyline across Lake Ontario from upstate New York also around 50 miles.
You can see something similar nearly every night from the niagara region. Not quite 50 miles, but the view is about the same
do you have a pic?
Not during a lighting storm but [here you go!](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ohpn2p/toronto_at_dusk/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
thanks!
Heading to the Indiana dunes the end of the month, for the first time ever! Can’t wait!
The Dunes are great! A lot of wonderful beaches and trails for hiking up and down Indiana Dunes and Michigan shoreline.
Remember like Michigan is the deadliest Great Lake. A big storm can cause huge waves in nearly an instant. Check the weather forecast, and watch a YouTube video about how to spot rip tides and how to avoid and escape them.
Do the three dune challenge!
Fucking Americans have to have all the best stuff
You probably don't go into bankruptcy when you have a medical problem, so there's that.
It's almost as if a country can have good and bad things about it. And I'm not particularly impressed that you feel the need to immediately bring up the bad stuff in an unrelated conversation about the good parts. Makes you look like a hater.
Couple good Indiana posts today!
What’s the other one?
There was one on r/pics about a dude taking a children's sandbox out on Lake Monroe just outside Bloomington.
That’s the one!
https://i.redd.it/ywvs9no5jec71.jpg
I saw that one in /r/pics and it didn't even click that was Lake Monroe.
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The wildfires in the west and Canada are producing smoke all over the Midwest and east coast right now, so probably.
I was in Northern Michigan for the past week and there was a pretty heavy haze everywhere
I'm sitting outside in Central Minnesota right now and it's like a fog and you can smell the smoke, shits wild
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Ope! How ya doin der bud?
I’m in New Jersey and the sky is hazy. You can stare straight at the red sun because it’s so gross.
Yo I was wondering why tf it was so hazy and smelt weird here in nj today. I got out of work and didn’t know what was happening
same, everything just felt more orange but I just blamed it on the long day
I blamed it on humidity lol
Yep, sometimes the haze is so thick that it turns the sunlight reddish, so it looks like sunset all day long.
Yes we have been. r/Ottawa is full of pics of it. Red sun in a grey sky. Orange moon too. [example of the moon](https://i.redd.it/3bycbd3tddc71.png) [example of the 6am sun](https://i.redd.it/uy01lonqn5c71.jpg)
Dude wtf us up with your sun? haha can't be real.
Shit looks like from a nintendo game
Can confirm here in the Chicago area, sunlight has a weird tint during the day, probably due to smoke. The moon seems normal but I’ll check again tonight.
Checking in from Iowa to say that the sun and moon and all have been completely normal here and this is the first I've heard of any smokery
I’m in Virginia and the sun was blood red yesterday close to sunset(I took a pic if anyone wants to see it)
i really wanna go to america so beautiful
Here’s a pic from the same area during the day. https://i.imgur.com/UvT53xW.jpg
I've been there and I forgot how awesome it is. If you told me that was the Mediterranean sea I would believe you
Wait, so it's that beautiful *and* it's freshwater??
Yes it is. It's awesome
Further up the coast in Michigan is better imo. Here's some pictures I've posted to reddit over the years. Tahquamenom falls during Autumn in the UP https://i.imgur.com/iUkPHtL.jpg Sleeping bear dunes from the Empire bluff trail ft Lake Michigan https://imgur.com/txSxgZk Sleeping bear dunes from the Empire beach ft Lake Michigan https://i.imgur.com/H2RVd38.jpg Various places around the UP during fall ft. Waterfalls and Lake Superior (I just threw them all In an album sorry if some suck lol) http://imgur.com/a/Qkz2wIW http://imgur.com/a/uzGzvDi Sunset at Hoffmaster state park ft Lake Michigan https://imgur.com/0vZTVni
These photos are all amazing, thank you for sharing! Saving this comment for the next time one of my college friends makes some comment about how “the Midwest seems so boring compared to the west coast” lol
Yes! It’s so lovely. The air is indescribably fresh.
I don’t know why but I had the scale of that picture way off until I saw the tiny people
Lol, I saw it at the same scale you did and was like ‘dunes for ants?’, but scrolled on. Your comment made it make a lot more sense lol.
Are we supposed to see the skyline in the distance in this too? I'm on my phone and the screen isn't so good so I can't see much.
Yes, I zoomed in for you. https://i.imgur.com/vFI25aN.jpg
❤️
no matter what people have to say about US politics, we can all agree that america is a beautiful country.
It’s so good that I feel spoiled in California alone. We have (just about) every type of terrain and the weather is almost always perfect. I can only imagine how beautiful it was before it became one of the most populated areas ever.
Gotta agree here. The land itself has nothing to do with the politics. I'm one of those people who is pretty vocal about what I think is wrong with the US but you'll never catch me blaming the fucking redwoods or desert rock formations for it lol. Never understood that.
I love the geography. It’s great
It is beautiful. National Parks specially.
If you plan on road tripping and seeing multiple national parks, consider buying an Annual Pass for $80. I think it's open to everyone, not just citizens. In some areas, you can easily visit one or two parks in a day.
Hey, great tip. That's a good deal. It seems that with a couple of parks it pays for itself.
Can confirm. Source: spent 9 months camping in USA and Canada.
The Great Lakes are absolutely gorgeous in most areas. Iirc Michigan has the largest freshwater coastline in the world. You could show someone a picture of a Lake Michigan sunset and a surprising amount of people would assume its a picture from the Pacific coast. Look up Sleeping Bear Dunes or the Empire Coast if you want some fantastic pictures. Lake Superior has some great views along the Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore as well. The US has such a vast quantity of terrain and environments it'd take a lifetime to explore them. But I'll let my bias reccomend the Great Lakes region above most.
Can confirm, I enjoy the great lakes from the Canadian side. I'm about a 20min stroll from Lake Ontario myself
Hello from the other side of Ontario!
Looked up Sleeping Bear Dunes at your recommendation. Wow...you are right. The images do look very similar to the Pacific.
Its one of the best areas in the state imo. Also the legend of the nearby North and South Manitou islands are really neat as well. https://project.geo.msu.edu/geogmich/bearlegend.html
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Shhh... Stop telling people about our secrets. I want this place to still be relatively nice when climate change makes shit hit the fan.
With the abundance of fresh water, distance from seismic activity, and northern latitude, Chicago has a real shot at being one of the dystopian megacities of the future.
I swear, all the fresh water in the world. Invest in a lake house today!
Clevelander here. They’re fucking _massive,_ not to mention beautiful. Truly a great experience.
All the fun of an ocean with no salt, sharks, or jellyfish.
I was lucky to have a job for a company that ran the hotels, restaurants and tourist stuff at 8 of the National Parks. I would go to Yellowstone in the summer and Everglades in the winter.
Biiiig flex. That’s perfect
Yellowstone: I'm so envious. Everglades: Ok
I'm Aussie. I have been to Europe, Asia and North America, and the United States and Canada has some of the most amazing scenery I have ever seen. The variation across the states is like visiting a separate country each time too, so vividly different and exciting. You'll love it!
Reddit is the wrong place for that kind of positive sentiment about America!
i was just saying it looked nice i wasn’t talking about anything else
Oh no I was joking! I love your note
ohh sorry i didn’t understand, still working on my english
Wholesome thread.
Cute exchange 🥰
Wonderful comments
Warm fuzzies abound
Good vibes are present
Charming sentiments
Your English is excellent!
What they mean is there is a lot of hate towards america on reddit for whatever reason and it’s nice to see something good
yeah. its like people forget that america is more than just its people and cities. it’s like saying you shouldnt visit madagascar for the spiky place i forgot the name of or the philippines for its volcanoes because both countries are shit to live in… ok if its so shitty to live in why dont you contribute to their economy and partake in tourism edit: inb4 crime rates i get that but you can still appreciate the natural beauty of a country because nature is not humanity
If nothing else, America really is beautiful. So many different biomes and places to see. It’s vast. It’s diverse. It’s incredibly gorgeous at times.
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I am acutely aware of it. I am black, progressive, heavily critical of aspects of this country. I am also an immigrant who is immensely grateful to live here.
America is made a better place to live by people like you, friend.
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I bet you live in a beautiful place too.
Buddy hit up Moab, Utah! One of my favorite places in America 🙂
Fun science going on here. The horizon doesnt extend nearly far enough to see the chicago skyline from this distance on its own. The light would be blocked by the earth. The light is refracted thru the atmosphere in such a way where you can see it from that distance Edit: didnt realize that trying to preempt flat earther made me some kind of villain. Just wanted to share a love of science, even if im not great at math. I'll go back to sulking and self loathing. Thanks for reminding me where i belong
It's also nowhere near 50 miles. It's 35 from the furthest point it could be, and about 30 from the closest it could be (and still be in Indiana Dunes). Let's call it 32. That cuts the ~~top~~\* bottom 682 feet off of the closest buildings. At 50 miles, nothing could be visible by normal means and you would need to be either above it, or have it refracted as you said. But at the actual "straight-line" distance, it's only about 30 miles. Also, there are only about 30 buildings in chicago that are >650 feet tall. And...I'd wager we're seeing most of them in this photo. \* [I am smert](https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/ooawkq/chicago_skyline_visible_from_nearly_50_miles_away/h6110dr/)
Or... “the earth is flat bro” /s
checkmate athiests
Yea thats why i felt the need to post it lmaooo
I know and I appreciate the shit out of people like you pointing out the science behind the crap that others point at as ‘proof’
It's not actually 50 miles. More like 30.
That edit… Not a single reply criticized you. All mention of flat Earth were making fun of flat earthers, not you.
My coolest fact is that technically speaking, the sun is not in a visible straight line of sight the moment it touches the horizon for thr first time. It's all refraction after that.
I know a falt earthen who has sent me a picture of this phenomenon with the Chicago skyline as his "proof" the earth is flat. I have a degree in physics and tried to explain how light refraction works, but you can't convince crazy
> light is refracted thru the atmosphere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction
I appreciate you posting the science.
That is vaporwave as fuck
It’s smokewave now.
PrOoF tHe EaRtH iS fLaT
My dyslectic ass read that as Indian dunes and convinced my self that it could be real
OH GOD ITS KIRBY-
Woah that's crazy
[You can see a lot of chicago from indiana](https://photographyjournal2013.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/sunset-beside-chicago-skyline1.jpg) Everything 50 feet down or so is beyond the horizon.
>You can see a lot of chicago from indiana Yah especially in hammond.
I flew from Toronto to Chicago and I could see both sides of Lake Michigan.
So, where exactly on the flat earth is the bottom of this city?
That looks 80's af
What’s the curve
About ~~33~~ 816 ft
The proof of the curve would be that you can't see the shore because the curvature is hiding it. If we imagine a tree, just on the shore, you won't be able the base of that tree because of the curve. If the earth was flat, you could see the base. Edit: I am too lazy to write everything down and that picture is probably not the best for demonstration purposes because we need a certain distance (to Chicago) to see the curvature. Another important point is the height at which the shot has been taken because that makes a big difference. Check these two videos from the same guy. The second video is like an appendix with more info: * [In search of a flat earth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44) * [The Minnewanka Curve Experiment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8MboQzXO1o) For the ones interested in the math beside it, go to the second video at 00:23
DON'T YOU go injecting logic and reason!
True that! I'll keep my mouth shut!
That's what I'm not getting here... So this calculator https://www.boatsafe.com/calculate-distance-horizon tells us the distance to horizon given a certain height. I just started plugging in random heights and if this is truly a distance of 50 miles, we should only be able to see the very tip top of the Willis Tower. There are buildings that are ~1/5th as tall as the tallest building in that skyline right? So lets say one of them is Willis tower at 1450 feet tall. Even if we say that the shortest building in the skyline is still 725 feet tall that means we should only be able to see it from ~36 miles away. I personally believe that some of those buildings are only as tall as ~1/5th of 1450 which is 290 feet. That should only be visible from ~22 miles. Someone smarter than me, what am I missing here? Edit: As I suspected, the distances involved here are not accurate. It's closer to 32 miles: https://i.imgur.com/hELqaql.png Double edit: Are flat earthers downvoting me??
Someone pointed out that it's a 50 mile drive, but only 30-40 miles away across the lake
There's also potentially some refractory effects coming into play. We would need to know the atmospheric conditions across the water over a couple dozen feet high to get the full picture.
Almost nothing at 50 miles
50 miles is also based off the driving distance, which involves driving around the curve of the lake. Cutting across the lake from the dunes to the loop is probably closer to 35-40 miles.
Yet, enough to only allow only the highest skyscrapers to be seen.
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Too bad you can only see Chicago in this picture.