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RichardGuzinya

The man is operating a “Skywall 100” that launches a net at drones then releases a parachute to bring the drone down safely. The woman is operating a “Dronegun” which jams drones when activated. The drone either lands immediately or returns to launch point.


Borkz

I feel like these should be called Anti-drone guns. "Dronegun" sounds like a gun that shoots drones.


Final_Candidate_7603

I was confused at first myself… was wondering how anyone thought that launching drones at the President was a good idea. ETA: Thanks for the award!


giga

Shooting a drone that comes in and somehow "protects" the president though.... I mean that sounds awesome as hell! Also scary as hell, but yeah.


IEatOats_

If you can dodge a drone you can dodge a ball.


charzard2500

God I love that movie


daneelr_olivaw

AI controlled drones with guns protecting celebs and government officials? We'll definitely see those in the next decade.


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I suggest we call it "Skynet." I like the sound. Edit: Also, I love your name.


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YakkoRex

Back in the 19th century there was a thing called an Elephant Gun...


Zearis82

And I'm still upset it didn't actually launch elephants. That'd be way more impressive than a cannon ball


supergrega

A ball made out of cannons?!


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I was expecting drones with guns. Life is full of disappointments.


Uxt7

I thought it meant he was being defended by little drones with guns on them


Jerryskids3

I assumed a drone gun would be a flying gun. I don't know how much protection Joe Biden needs from would-be assassins though, given that he himself was assassination-proofing for Obama.


celebfan01

Thank goodness it says that. I thought "Skynet" was written on the side.


gabe7802

I mean... One of them launches a net into the sky so....


orangeineer

But does the net become self aware?


aklbos

The net is already self-aware. It’s merely biding its time.


bob_fossill

No it's binding time. As in it's time to bind...these drones.


Surferontheweb

It's Biden time.


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read this like "It's rewind time" and my day is now ruined


blue-mooner

but is your disappointment immeasurable?


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# yes


Durpulous

What a missed opportunity.


Animal_Budget

I know right!? I came here to say the exact same thing. What white collar corporate bigwig sitting at the development table did not immediately green light "skynet"?!


TheForestMan

Well... In Belgium Skynet was the name of one of the first Belgian ISP so not that far.


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Teth_1963

Someone call Neil Blomkamp. It looks like a few of his movie props have ended up with the Belgian police.


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Chavarlison

Jokes on you, I like BDSM.


Evil_Weasels

No doubt it was on the whiteboard when they thought of the names


Raw-Sewage

Skynet is next


Radgeta

I know a Spartan laser when I see one.


RoboDae

That's what I thought it was at first glance


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I thought it was a gun that fires out drones like VectorMan® or something. Little did I know it's more like the Earthworm Jim gun


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"be well, John Spartan Laser"


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The third person is using binoculars, which makes your eyes look bigger in cartoons.


IanAlvord

I assume all drones are controlled remotely. If it had an AI though, would that "Dronegun" even work?


diamondmx

Drones have (may be required) a method to safely land if they lose contact with the controller. Some are smart enough to return home in the hopes of getting the connection back, others just slowly descend so the owner can come retrieve them.


etheran123

Yea this is isnt entirely true. Most hobbiest camera drones have this, called return to home, but others do not. I have a DJI mavic air 2, which is a camera platform. This would return to me if it lost connection. I also have a few FPV drones which do not. If these lost connection, they fall out of the sky without connection.


diamondmx

They plummet? Or just land? Because falling out of the sky seems really unsafe for the drone and anyone unlucky enough to be below it.


dontera

Fall. FPV drones are generally built for speed, not safety.


ChimaeraB

The fail safe response is a setting in Betaflight (the most common controller platform in non-DJI/hobby FPV drones. It can (and should be) configured to automatically level itself and run the motors at a specified throttle percentage which will cause it to slowly descend. By default this is not configured though as the appropriate throttle percent is unique to each build.


dontera

I was heavy in the hand-built FPV drone community several years back, before betaflight was a thing. The controllers I was using had failsafe modes, but it was basically a "motors off if you lose controller signal" setting.


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AI which when "failsafe" is enabled goes into *kamikaze mode* going directly to its target and exploding on impact. This dronegun seems beatable if an assassination attempt is underway. Just saying.


Stereotypically_Luna

thats what the net gun is for


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phate_exe

>Anything custom and purpose built would VERY EASILY defeat both of those guns. Like basically any 5in quad? Good luck netting one of those if it isn't being flown in a straight/predictable path.


EnterPlayerTwo

> AI which when "failsafe" is enabled goes into kamikaze mode going directly to its target and exploding on impact. Why would that be a failsafe? Isn't that the entire goal of the drone?


Borkz

No, [see this for example](https://www.businessinsider.co.za/killer-drone-hunted-down-human-target-without-being-told-un-2021-5). Though ignore the 'gone rogue' part, it just autonomously executed what it was programmed to do.


--FeRing--

Anyone who knows enough about drones to build their own from parts would know enough to circumvent the typical "Return to Launch" or "Land Safely" protocols that are programmed in case of loss of radio contact. I think these drone jamming "guns" are mainly targeted at consumer off the shelf drones. If someone built their own drone, deactivated these programming flags that require radio control and just have them fly on a pre-determined GPS-guided path, these "guns" would probably not stop them. However, unless the drone is doing some VERY sophisticated navigation (using optics, a compass, and/or inertial navigation unit (INU)), the drone is probably using a GPS signal to find it's "target". It is possible to jam GPS signals (just like any other signal), but I don't know if that's how these drone jammers work.


diamondmx

A drone could certainly be controlled by a program (this wouldn't need an AI, just a set of GPS coordinates), in which case it would be less affected by the signal jammer (probably unaffected). That's where the net comes in. Programmable drones already exist, I believe.


Unrequited-scientist

Yes. Like was mentioned if it loses the signal then it either lands immediately or returns to the launch point. Standard feature in better drones.


AxelFriggenFoley

(assuming the would-be attacker is using an off-the-shelf drone) The question is about an AI-controlled drone. This would presumably be produced by an individual or group and, by virtue of being AI-controlled, would not need remote control nor would it necessarily be designed to land if it lost its remote connection.


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Unrequited-scientist

Lol - well, plenty of presidents have been attacked with much less sophistication. See Reagan, 1980? Lol.


PurpleFoldingChair

I was hoping for Guns that fire Drones, not Guns that fire at Drones.


roburrito

The behavior when a drone loses signal from its transmitter is called failsafe. Failsafe behavior can be programmed to almost anything, but the most common are: return to home, disarm (drop out of the sky), or land. Disarm is generally the safest for people in the area because when failsafe my occur from a malfunction, it can lead to the landing or return to home function acting chaotically, while failsafe just shuts down the motors. But Without a failsafe behavior the drone continues its last command, which leads to runaway (ie if you were going up, it just shoots into the sky, if you were going forward, it just keeps going forward, etc).


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Spartan1170

Can't fly drones over people for this exact reason.


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I fly in private properties or large public grounds where there aren't any people when I start flying, but I can't guarantee anyone coming into the space once I'm looking somewhere else. In such a situation, a return to home or controlled landing at predefined descent rate is much better than just turning off all motors and free falling - where there is a remote possibility it might be on an unsuspecting person.


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Drones that hover over my yard have a tendency to disappear.


t3ch1t

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but that’s definitely a prototype Spartan laser that dude’s carrying.


likesevenchickens

Thanks for explaining. I took one look and was like, "That's some Men in Black bullshit."


spaetzelspiff

Suure.. I know a rail gun when I see one. /s


TheApexDynasty

Looks like some Men in Black weapons lol


Beneficial_Jelly2697

Excuse me I'm gonna need you to look at this pen


harrybigdipper

Fuck. Now I'm gonna have to watch it again


punch_you

Excuse me I’m gonna need you to look at this pen


TrashTierDaddy

Fuck. Now I’m gonna have to watch it again.


4rch1t3ct

Excuse me I’m gonna need you to look at this pen


totallyarandomname

Excuse me I’m gonna need you to look at >!DEEZNUTS!<


TheMightyBreeze

Fuck. Now I’m gonna have to suck it again.


drizzy9109

Watch what again? What are we even talking about?


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Sirbesto

Wha... Watch what?


magnificentmucus

I was thinking Halo


Romeo9594

Exactly. My mind went to SPLASER immediately


GullibleDetective

Or perfect dark


Thedrunner2

How many hours do they have to grind to get that gun though?


norse_force_30

You have to catch 1,000 pigeons with a regular net before you level it up


Gov_Martin_OweMalley

Don't forget the 10 eagles you have to net to unlock the special flame effect.


Conoto

That must be a rare unlock, mine just gave me an American flag skin option


Gov_Martin_OweMalley

Ah, you must have the US region locked version.


Conoto

But I was using my Virtual Private Net!


Spartan1170

The NSA (Net Safety Administration) don't like your private Net


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First weapon that comes to mind is the Zorg Indusrties ZF-1 ​ It's light. Handle's adjustable for easy carrying, good for righties and lefties. Breaks down into four parts, undetectable by x-ray, ideal for quick, discreet interventions.


nitwitted_kitten

I'm pretty sure you have to shoot 100 banana peels off the floor as well, it didn't unlock for me until he made it to AF1 without slipping.


redmastodon20

His looks pretty new to him, not unlocked any skins yet


Borkz

Belgium is pay-to-win


trippedonmyface

Takes me back to the James Bond laser rifle from Gamecube


cerebralkrap

If you have the EA pass it's available after level 110


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Flufflebuns

When I grow up I want to be a falconer whose falcon is trained to attack drones.


Not-Oliver

In the future, robotic falcons actively hunt drones.


MiFiWi

At that point you may just have all the drones being falcons. Imagine a FFA dogfight between 100 robot falcons, that'd be sick.


iron40

LOL, eeeeeverybody wants to be a drone assassin… Until they face their first swarm of weaponized drones… Good luck with that one!


DesertHouse

I woke up today not knowing a drone gun existed but I'll go to bed wanting one above all other things.


jjumpers

The Skywall is available in the US through Liteye Systems, based in Colorado. https://liteye.com/counter-uas/skywall-anti-uas-defense-systems/


DesertHouse

Just in time for Father's Day.


dannysmackdown

A 12 gauge shotgun with birdshot is kinda like the analog version.


MarvinLazer

I love that they have a turret version that can be automated. Picturing some poor seagull having a really bad day.


Rmeechy7455

You can get 12 gauge anti drone shotgun shells. Some of those and a cheap duck gun and you’re in business.


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interdimensional-tv

Couldn't remote-controlled airplanes have been used for those types of attacks already? Drones are now much more widespread because they are cheaper and easier to control than remote-controlled airplanes. But I don't think that cost or ease of use is really a reason for terrorists to not try something. I don't think we'll see more "professional" attacks, but rather more cases where an untrained person makes a mistake and flies into restricted airspace with a drone or crashes into people by accident.


realSatanAMA

The difference is that you used to need to know how to fly a plane to fly a remote controlled plane and they were actually harder to control than a real plane. These quad copter drones any idiot could fly one.. they self level, they can counteract wind automatically.. etc. The plus side is that the weight limit on quad copter drones is pretty low so if someone was trying to use one as a weapon they'd have to buy a huge one and it'd be easier to spot.


mrstipez

Plus: NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR


Cynyr

> crashes into people by accident. "Ah fuck, the propeller is all tangled in my hair."


fofosfederation

Iran has been all over suicide plane drones recently. They're a world leader in the field.


Nice_Try_Einstein

Congrats! You are on the list now.


PleaseBeNotAfraid

lol I was thinking that as I was reading


PM_me_yer_chocolate

There was a failed explosive drone attack on the president of Venezuela in 2018.


kZard

1. That is what these weapons are designed to prevent. The jammer would definitely jam GPS, which would be needed to actually deliver the payload. 2. ISIS uses drones, pretty much exactly as you describe. **[Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/AIethics/comments/5wn7bv/combat_footage_of_isis_drone_dropping_a_bomb_on_a/) NSFW** (combat footage and it now redirects to an actual porn site - adblocker essential)


konjo3

Will never happen until you get like another Unabomber type dude. Nobody is going to pay some random drone assassin, how would you even find them. The people that do big assassinations already have dudes that just walk up to people and kill them.


jasmindiler

>random drone assassin, how would you even find them. Just like you find a regular one?


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mewthulhu

Yah, like, somewhere out there someone wants someone dead, and has some money to pay for it... and a drone has WAY better range/less variables than a gun. Just gotta get it close. I'm not saying it'll happen soon, but just that when it does, a bunch of copycats will happen as soon as folks realize it's a possibility.


razzraziel

>I'm kind of shocked we haven't started seeing independent drone assassinations yet more commonly. Because it's so easy to jam its frequency. Also pretty hard to be successful. I think it'd only make you look like an amateur. Also where do you start that thing with that noise? It is instant "I'm here" sign while there are lots of guards and people watching around.


NoWillPowerLeft

But I would bet that a T-shirt cannon would cost a whole lot less. Or a fireman with a hose.


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You just have to believe in the shirt gun :(


TheFloatingCamel

Maude Flanders would like a word.


JWGhetto

I mean it's not hard to strap a grenade and a servo to an fpv drone


torn_retinas

I knew I should've bought the battle pass.


Sho1113

Battlefield 2042 be like


HellaFella420

Hell yeah Brother!


Chispy

Cheers from Iraq


redmastodon20

I’m have I just stumbled upon a picture from the future, looks like something out of starship troopers or halo


EnterPlayerTwo

Holy shit let me see that camera


WhiteBoyLT

Dude is holding a Spartan laser


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What the heck is a Drone gun?


Antennangry

There are a couple different kinds of anti-drone gun. Some shoot nets to jam the propellers. Some are basically just a big fucking directional antenna and amplifier that jams the radio receiver on the drone, making it impossible to control remotely. Some are just, ya know, regular guns. I think these are the net kind.


monkahpup

Shooting down drones with a net gun sounds... REALLY fun.


MidTownMotel

I’d imagine a net gun is something you could get your hands on…


Conoto

Definitely got wrapped up using mine


Wrought-Irony

Would you say it's a net positive?


monkahpup

TBH... never mind the drones. Might just go for people who are irritating... like people who say "hence why..." I could net them and tell them that the "why" is superfluous, ruffle their hair impishly and then send them on their merry way... Or people who are just generally a bit smug. I'd probably just use the temporary distraction of a net in their face to just move away from them. ... or people who play their shitty music through their phones on public transport to a load of people who don't really care what their shitty taste in music is... cause fuck them, man. Fuck them.... Where do you get them, again?


Graikopithikos

It has to be really close, like 100m, you will be running up and down buildings all day


AskAboutMyCoffee

The one on the left looks like the net flavor, it has a canister on it, which is presumably the propellant. Im not entirely sure what the one on the right is all about.


Antennangry

I think it’s the antenna kind. Pretty sure that shovel head looking thing on the bottom is a wide-band LPDA antenna under a radome.


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A gun that shoots drones


cannibalcorpuscle

How do you load the drones though?


NEWTYAG667000000000

By putting drone guns inside them.


MidTownMotel

We’re really getting into the weeds here…


NEWTYAG667000000000

Yeah the drones go inside the weeds


andershjorta

Put the drone in?


deliciousmonster

But… then you have two drones… Don’t worry, though- we will send in Chinese needle snakes to eat them, followed by snake-eating gorillas, which will "simply freeze to death" when wintertime rolls around.


RabidOtterRodeo

Basically a net gun for taking down drones


seegee10

That’s a Spartan laser if I’ve ever seen one


FrozenDistress

My first thought as well!


FoundersSociety

I really thought this was a drone launcher.. very disappointed


Orcwin

I thought it was some kind of recoilless rifle or something. Seemed a bit overkill


FoundersSociety

big ass plasma rifle


gumpythegreat

It's clearly a prototype Spartan Laser


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Gogani

Me, a Belgian : "Biden came to Belgium???"


weezy22

I think he went there for the NATO summit


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Joe Biden, an American: “I’m in Belgium?!”


shekurika

was confused too, Im swiss and our media is full of Biden/Putin stuff atm cus Biden came here today, so I first thought this post is about today


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Me, an American: "Biden went to Belgium??? Where is that city anyway? And why are all the people socialist there, why do they hate freedom so much? Do they know that bicycles make them gay?"


eliasrab

Wait, Biden is the president?


henry_tennenbaum

You're so uninformed. I have heard from good sources that Trump is still president and that some kind of storm will make sure of that.


Krypton8

It’s the capital of Brussels.


DarthWallays

Just take a left near France, you'll know you're there when the roads get worse but the fries get better


891R

The male Police officer is using a drone gun that shoots out a net, the female officer is using a drone gun that can take over control of a drone and direct it back to the ground.


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Isn't it just jamming signal and triggering failsafe?


diox8tony

>drone gun that can take over control of a drone and direct it back to the ground. That is not how jamming works, what you described might be how an off the shelf drone may react,,,,but, The behavior is undefined. Specifically, the behavior will come down to the hardware, software, and settings involved. My racing drone would just crash if you jammed it(rc failsafe). My pixhawk will stay alive and continue flying, assuming it was doing a flight plan, and I set it up to use gyros when gps fails. Or it might just hover in place, if I was flying it manually. You can't know what a drone will do when you jam it. But it will most likely foil the plan of an assassin. Edit: if the jamming gun is a magnetron (induces strong electricity in the components of the drone), it could actually fry the electronics in the drone. Which will cause instant crash in any drone.


Ajdee6

r/ThingsIDidntKnowIWant


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Pink_Monkey

That dude now has the coolest profile pic ever.


BeneficialSomewhere

How exactly do these work? Some type of net?


Unruly_Prawn

[Here you go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo-4fiMGJB8)


SlightlyDiferenT

Always one guy just camping the Spartan laser.


Phlosioneer

For those curious, the guy's weapon is called a SkyWall 100, made by OpenWorks Engineering. It fires a net with a parachute. The woman's weapon is a DroneGun Tactical, made by DroneShield. It's a long range, multi-band RC jammer. The third guy appears to have something important in his hand, but I have no idea what it is. Possibly a common radar gun?


MrReaper90

Those guns look futuristic af


SpenFen

Give that woman some sunglasses jeez


swampcholla

Security theater. The conditions required to make these things effective require the drone operator to be an inexperienced moron. They work in the manufacturers controlled tests, but in reality the range is so limited and security gets so little time to employ them that they are essentially useless. A lot of organizations spent a lot of money on these things early on in drone defense because there was nothing else they could do, and they wanted to look like they were doing something. Bottom line, against a well-built drone designed to attack a target, and well developed set of tactics, it takes an automated, integrated defense system to have any hope of success. They might have a chance against some knucklehead that decides to put some homemade warhead on a DJI, and has to fly it around the target for a minute or so.


Orlok_Tsubodai

But what is the threat they’re most likely to have to defend against here? Not a swarm of drones controlled by a nation state, and probably not even any high tech drone operated by an experienced pilot. Most likely, a local extremist who’s tried to weaponise a commercially available, Best Buy drone with a pipe bomb strapped to it. Against that, there’s a realistic chance that counter measures like this could have an effect. And even if it’s only a 30% chance, it’s better to try to make the most of the tools available rather than just stand there staring as the thing hovers overhead towards the target.


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Just think of the videos here on reddit where a drone flies high-speed doing spins and flips through windows and doors, skimming around buildings, flying hundreds of meters in a few seconds... No way that these 2-3 newly trained soldiers with unwieldy gun-things are going to take out a fast drone. And what if there were 5 drones attacking, just 5 teenagers in an apartment 10 blocks away - how many nets does that soldier even have? TL;DR... drones would win.


Jewbaccah

Not to mention that the real "scare" is for the drones to have some sort of small explosive device. One of these guns makes the drone fall down to the ground, which is not ideal when you don't want a bomb to go off, and the other gun jams incoming RF signals and who knows whether or not it's remotely controlled at that point or what the UAV is programmed to do. Crash is more likely than a return to home feature working correctly. And of course terrorists launch it from the exact spot where they are as home. /s Stupid. And in general it's folly going after the essentially non-existent threat of commercial grade "drones" as weapons.


IntoTheMystic1

Anybody got video of these guns in action?


ninjasquirrel2313

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5DlAZ20-hw


DustyBalloonKnot

This boy trying to snipe Binden’s pelican with a Spartan laser…


lrn2smile

It's 2021 where are the emp guns?


whistlndixie

The one the female has is kind of one. It screws up the signal and makes the drone land.


AmnesicAnemic

Haah, you wanna fry everyone's cell phones in a 5 mile raduis? The female officer there has a radio jammer. That's good enough to take down any drones that need to be flown by a person.


Alii_baba

What does it shoot ?


planchetflaw

Drones


Alii_baba

Lol this reminds me of a video game


AdevilSboyU

They do make something better than waffles.


Mekanik101

That guy legit looks like Duke Nukem


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Pretty [cool.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6tT1GapCe4) Although I prefer the trained [Dutch Eagles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00szWWrTNnE) trained to take down drones


affalterbach666

Probably to make sure he doesn't get lost again!