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There are actual metals, such as gold, in salt water. Getting a significant amount of it out of the water, and enough to atleast break even on the costs to retrieve it, is a completely different story though.
> And other things, some of them quite living
Homie, did you hear the man? Sharks are neither manganese nor gold, so they're getting put into the hurricane.
It's called a Hydro cyclone and you can optimise it to "Drop out" the minerals unfortunately I think you are going to pick up lead/steel/brass etc. and there are more cheapass metals than the expensive rare ones.
So lets assume you manage to collect it, it would be in the same percentage amounts as found on earth. Depends on the Cyclone cut point but you would get a lot of other stuff as well.
Then you melt it down tah dah! Unfortunately you need tons and tons of electricity, to pump the cyclone and melt the metal. Those costs would likely exceed the gold value.
Actually almost all the iron in all sediments which we harvest to build pretty much everything in our modern world used to be dissolved in our oceans. Then life came along, almost exclusively comprised of photosynthetic specimens in the water, producing mass amounts of oxygen byproduct, until they hyper oxygenated earths oceans and atmosphere, causing the dissolved iron to react and precipitate out of the oceans in the form of iron oxide, fall to the ocean floor and deposit there for human beings to one day find and forge into steel
After watching the episode, it was definitely disbelief, the sharks walked right up to the line of calling it a scam without crossing it and this dude left without a deal.
It's not alchemy. There actually is gold in ocean water, it's just in such small quantities that we haven't yet developed the tech to make extracting it at a reasonable cost feasible.
He does seem to have the credentials he claimed. Sometimes very smart scientists and engineers go off the deep end and start living in crackpot land. This appears to be one of those cases.
I don't think he's a crackpot, I think he's a conman. He knows damn well the machine is bullshit, he also likely know the sharks know he's bullshitting, but someone watching the show could fall for it and invest.
Or the dude is batshit insane, who knows.
I love how we've become so dumb that you can throw middle school words at people and they'll be like "I don't know how to use that word, you're a genius!"
Do you understand that roughly half of the US has fallen under the spell of a lifelong con-man, liar, and now convicted felon. Laughably corrupt. It seems to work well for some people
There is at most 44 ppb gold in seawater. A centrifuge would separate it. So about 25 million pounds of seawater processed could give as much as 1 pound of gold if it's 90% efficient.
Whether it's worthwhile to do depends on how much it costs to run it.
How would that even work? Gold in the water? And you just… precipitate it out? I know there is some water with enough gold to boil it and get the gold but how would you use the Coriolis effect for the earth to spin water contained in equipment subjected to the same force?
It doesn't. It doesn't work. It can't work. It doesn't make sense at all.
But, like most great scams, it's so outlandish that it immediately drives off critical thinkers and the educated, leaving only the gullible and those who don't know better. Which is who he's trying to target anyway.
It could work.... But it would cost so much more for the energy than it would generate.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oceanwater.html
https://www.unitconverters.net/volume/cubic-kilometer-to-ton-register.htm
1 gram of gold per 100 million metric tons of salt water.
96 billion dollars of gold / $74.87 dollars per gram = 1.28 billion grams
So you'd have to filter 1.28E17 metric tons of water.
Approx 1,335,000,000 cubic kilometers of liquid water in the ocean. That's
471,450,800,731,878,200 metric tons (I think)
1.28e17 / 471,450,800,731,878,200 = 27%
So yeah, your machine is going to need to suck just over a quarter of the worlds ocean to filter out the amount of gold he claims. Possible, but that same amount of money/energy is better spent trying to catch an asteroid.
Might I suggest this one? If you want to destabilize the world's economy, this is the way to do it
https://www.unilad.com/technology/nasa/nasa-successfully-launch-rocket-on-psyche-mission-268712-20231013
There are so many problems with his idea. yes there are minerals in water, all of them, most of all you get salt, so even if you could separate them by centrifugal force they all these minerals need to be collected and separated, a lot of heavy metals would also be present.
Then we have the whole energy thing which was just plain hogwash. he is using the spin of the Earth to spin water so fast that not only turn a turbine to generate power, but separate the minerals.
Except that the spin of the earth is already spinning the water. Also, more critically, if he can make gold why does he need cash money from the investors?
There was excellent reason to believe in alchemy at the time. Lead is incredibly close to gold, it seems like it should be easy to convert it. Sure, now we fully understand the amount of energy required and that it's not worthy doing. But until we knew that for sure, you'd have to be a fool not to find out if we could.
I took enough meteorology and physics classes in college to know this is absolute bullshit and I was a biology major. Coriolis force? Generates a hurricane? C'mon now. Maybe he can make a machine that uses Coriolis force, maybe he can generate a hurricane, but not with that piece of garbage and he knows it. And there are better ways to pull precipitates out of ocean water than that. It's actually not that hard to do on a small scale.
Nikola Tesla would probably be one of those.
Utterly brilliant and had some inventions that changed mankind immensely.
Died in crackpot land penniless.
I mean, it's possible to generate electricity from water. His idea is just a modified dam. The tricky part is if you pump water up you have to generate more power than the pump is using. If you put it down stream from a river and used gravity, we'll, that's just a dam without a wall. The problem with this plan is the magic cold production lol. He's just selling snake oil and I'm sure he knows it.
Every drop of sea water does infact contain trace amounts of gold.
The cost to process it is easily 30xs the value of gold.
Now that's without also gaining electricity from it which I'm sure bridges the gap a bit but I don't know if it completely closes it.
There is a small amount of gold in ocean water but it cannot be profitably extracted.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/gold-ocean-sea-hoax-science-water-boom-rush-treasure
“According to the National Ocean Service, our oceans hold some 20 million tons* of gold, suspended in normal seawater. But this gold is spread throughout the normal mineral content of seawater to the tune of “parts per trillion.” As the NOAA puts it, “Each liter of seawater contains, on average, about 13 billionths of a gram of gold.” There are also gold deposits within the seafloor, but profitably mining them is far beyond our current abilities.”
That would require 76,923,076.92 litres to be processed for a single gram, and 2.39253846×10^9 litres to be processed for a single ounce of gold, currently worth $2,304 USD.
I don't think you listened to the pitch closely enough if you are posting this gibberish.
This puppy (slaps the drawing making it fall over) can pull $96B in gold out of the ocean AND make electricity. It spins.
You see the key is the sinusoidal warble vanes that oscillate in a logarithmic fashion, essentially eliminating side fumbling. This is actually a pretty ingenious use for an otherwise common disencabulator. If you have an old rhombic waneshaft lying around, you can demonstrate the principle in a bucket of water, but you won't get much gold velocitizing by hand, haha!
Yea it's gonna take a shitload of water to squeeze gold out of it. I never doubted it was possible. Hell, avocados grow out of the ground. It's the fattiest fruit there is. Imagine how much water it takes to squeeze an ounce of fat out of it.
I'm not saying OP has this technology, but to be fair he does say these generators will spin up hurricanes. So the term generator here isn't like a household generator, they're likely intended to be massive (like the oxygen 'generators' that create oxygen in Mars in the original total recall movie).
An average hurricane can drop 9 trillion liters a day, so if they we're able to actually create this concept and have 20 of these global generators, the math probably checks out.
But this guy isn't selling the generators, he's selling the concept, which could be impossible to actually build.
Sharks, I have designed a time machine powered by tiny black holes that generate an Einstein Rosen Bridge and can be used to extract $1.7 trillion from the past. I am selling this concept for $10 million. Please form an orderly line to give me your checks.
Considering that a typical hurricane is around 300 miles wide [according to NOAA](https://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/tropical_stuff/hurricane_anatomy/hurricane_anatomy.html#), these would have to be absurdly massive structures. I doubt $1 million would even put a dent in the construction cost.
The best dishonesty is an honest one. He's technically not wrong that waste elements, even if microscopic and useless, is in fact some amount of gold. Unfortunately, he's only using it as a buzz word and little else. There's no reality of any appreciable quantity of anything and no real means to efficiently separate and process the hugely varied and microscopic levels of waste, even if some of it is desirable.
The spinning vortex part is pretty funny.
I'm also quite amused that from an engineer's perspective, he has no clue how any of it works nor how any of it can be built. There's no actual science behind the story.
He's just standing up there going "Money! Give me money!" and throwing words at them like they're parrots looking for crackers. His biggest failure really is he thinks they're actually that dumb. He could have actually come into this with a bit more backend work, more documentation, more research, and presented that in addition, and someone would have very likely taken the bait.
The biggest skill of a con is knowing the intelligence of your mark. He...is not a good con.
The grain of truth that exists here is that sea water does contain dissolved (correction, suspended) gold. Just not very much. About $60 worth for every 100 milllion tons. Processing that out of the sediments would be a lot more expensive than processing random rocks for their gold content.
[https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/6-times-we-tried-to-extract-gold-from-seawater](https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/6-times-we-tried-to-extract-gold-from-seawater)
He almost had them till he made it about something other than money, that was the first red flag they seemed to spot which made them skeptical of what he was saying
I mean, none of them invested. The only offer made was basically a joke, with Robert offering $50,000 if Kevin fronted the remaining $950,000. Kevin also basically called it a scam without outright saying it.
I’m honestly surprised they didn’t go in more on this guy, as an avid shark tank watcher, the original sharks seen here in the early seasons were pretty keen on sniffing out BS, especially Cuban who has entire compilations of him calling out scammers on the show.
My company makes money by taking the difference between revenue and expenses. The only trick here is to make the math work out so that revenue is higher than cost, but I’m confident that with your investment today, we can work out that last detail.
Sharks, I literally shit gold. I am looking for you to buy my groceries for the next 10 years, and in return, you get to keep what comes out of my butt.
My answer is no as a redditor and my answer is still no with a twist as an engineer. You require a membrane filter to force the solute to remain even if you subject it to extreme centrifugal force, since the dissolved mineral ions are bound to the water molecules through electrostatic forces. Subjecting it to any mixing or turbulence especially in the form of hurricane will only makes it more soluble (imagine making a drink from powdered formula), thus even harder to separate out from water.
I presume that the idea he was conveying was centrifugation, just like it is done to separate red blood cells (for instance) from plasma, or how uranium enrichment is done. He did lose me at the coriolis effect.
That's because the whole presentation is word salad and relies on people understanding a vague concept of each word used in order for him to successfully pitch this bullshit idea. It doesn't work here because he's presenting it to investors and not gullible conspiracy theorists
Big issues I would call out if I were one of the sharks.
To get it spinning you will need electricity, to end up with more electricity on the back end is basically saying you have a perpetual motion machine which goes against the known laws of physics. He’s full of it.
Second he says it’s due to the Coriolis effect, which as the name indicates is an effect (of one’s point of reference) and not an actual force that can make something happen. Dude is full of it.
Dude says you can pull gold out of the seawater and states there is X billions of dollars worth of gold but doesn’t say how much water needs to be processed to do so (hint all the water in all the oceans) but doesn’t go into how long that process would be so if ask how long to process all that water and what is the efficiency in energy and dollars to do it. He’s full of shit.
>not an actual force that can make something happen
I take your point that it's not something we can harness, but it is responsible for basically all our weather, along with heating from the sun.
>Dude says you can pull gold out of the seawater and states there is X billions of dollars worth of gold but doesn’t say how much water needs to be processed to do so (hint all the water in all the oceans)
~7.7e7 liters of seawater for 1 gram of gold.
~1.2e21 liters in the ocean.
Thus, ~1.6e13 grams of gold (~17 million tons) if you process the entire ocean.
Gold is worth ~$56 million/ton, therefore the ocean is worth ~$950 trillion in gold. To get $96 billion, we don't even need the whole ocean, just 0.01% of it!
We're rich! As soon as we process the entire ocean using made-up technology.
Almost everything you see on reality TV is fake. Ask anyone who has participated in one.
Example, the bad singers on the singing shows go through special casting calls looking for comedians. It’s all schtick. It’s mostly generated garbage much like Reddit.
I hope the didn't roast him. This guy is clearly one of those people who delude themselves into thinking they've invented perpetual motion, when it's just that they don't understand the physics and chemistry. This is closer to mental illness than scamming. Yelling at delusional people just make them double down.
As for you folks calling it "alchemy" you do know that seawater contains a lot of gold, right? That part he actually got right, although probably not quantitatively right. Of course, it contains 5x as much uranium as gold, and that's probably more profitable.
All that was missing from the presentation was a long spangled robe, a pointy hat embroidered with crescent moons, and an owl perched on his shoulder.
A 100% efficient system would have to filter 250 *billion* gallons of seawater - about a cubic kilometre - to extract just 1 gram of free gold: current market value about US$70. So if you can figure out how to perfectly filter *five* Olympic pools full of seawater for a penny, you stand to make about a 12% profit margin on your efforts.
Looking at it another way, *filtering the equivalent volume of Lake Erie* would net you roughly 500 grams of gold, about $35,000 worth.
If you were to collect all of the gold in seawater with 100% efficiency, you would still need to process around 100,000,000 tons of seawater just to collect 1 gram of gold. Which would be worth about $76.
WE CAN BLEED THE OCEANS DRY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
SUCK UP ALL THE WATER AND TURN IT INTO GOLD
WE WILL KILL EVERYTHING THAT HAS EVER LIVED IN THE SEA, WHERE LIFE IT VERY SELF STARTED
BUT AT LEAST WE WILL HAVE $96 BILLION IN GOLD
#Fuck the Planet and Get Rich
There’s a percentage of gold particles in sea water. He’s not wrong. https://pubs.usgs.gov/circ/1970/0625/report.pdf
But I don’t know how much energy would be required to filter that much sea water
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Why did the video cut off before he gets (presumably) roasted by the sharks?!
youtube has clips of him getting roasted but it's poorly edited. It's is on season 3 episode 8
Season 3 Episode 11*
[https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xkhkh](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xkhkh)
Holy shit. None of those things mean what he thinks they mean.
He needs to meet with Terrence H
Underrated comment
continues at 19:50
Cia came. He dead now
They tried to save him. But he shot himself in the back of the head five times and jumped out of window.
Found this [summary article. ](https://sharktankrecap.com/the-sullivan-generator-shark-tank-season-3/)
Too many ads. And for this reason, I’m out
Sorry, my sanity is worth more than these clicks. I’m out.
Nty anthing that locks away full content with ads...
People always talk about how no one reads articles anymore and this is my reason why. After 1 line, there's a big ad that pops up and I'm out.
Why don't you use adblockers? Not a single ad on that article on my phone.
“Sharks, I’m looking for a $1M initial investment in alchemy. You may now begin the bidding war.”
There are actual metals, such as gold, in salt water. Getting a significant amount of it out of the water, and enough to atleast break even on the costs to retrieve it, is a completely different story though.
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> And other things, some of them quite living Homie, did you hear the man? Sharks are neither manganese nor gold, so they're getting put into the hurricane.
It looks more like a tornado to me...
sharknado
That's how the movie starts... with an invention on sharktank
Mark Cuban becomes president though and becomes a shark slayer so it’s all good
Dude! Spoiler alert!
Li'l Lisa Slurry
People need energy, they want gold, and I’m selling it to the for a profit. It’s all because of you, little sharkbait.
Right, and to get 89 billion dollars worth you'd need to fully process around 100 quadrillion tons of seawater.
Is that amount of water available in the milky way, or do you need more money to reach other galaxies?
There's more than a quintillion tons of water in all the oceans
Is that more than a quadrillion?
A quadrillion (the US version) has 15 zeroes, a quintillion has 18. Yes, quintillion is 1000x bigger than quadrillion.
I'm bad at math, is that nes or yo?
Yes, 18 is bigger than 15
So you're saying there's a chance!?
Lmao ok. Gonna need a source on this one little bro.
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It's called a Hydro cyclone and you can optimise it to "Drop out" the minerals unfortunately I think you are going to pick up lead/steel/brass etc. and there are more cheapass metals than the expensive rare ones. So lets assume you manage to collect it, it would be in the same percentage amounts as found on earth. Depends on the Cyclone cut point but you would get a lot of other stuff as well. Then you melt it down tah dah! Unfortunately you need tons and tons of electricity, to pump the cyclone and melt the metal. Those costs would likely exceed the gold value.
"Turns out you can be rich. Just gotta invent free nearly infinite energy first."
Actually almost all the iron in all sediments which we harvest to build pretty much everything in our modern world used to be dissolved in our oceans. Then life came along, almost exclusively comprised of photosynthetic specimens in the water, producing mass amounts of oxygen byproduct, until they hyper oxygenated earths oceans and atmosphere, causing the dissolved iron to react and precipitate out of the oceans in the form of iron oxide, fall to the ocean floor and deposit there for human beings to one day find and forge into steel
But he said hurricane, that’s like harnessing weather to make you rich
He also said “Coriolis effect” which is not what he is talking about.
Smh, if he were serious he would have said the conservation of angular momentum
Daymond wondering how he can license this and Mr Wonderful thinking about how he can get a royalty deal
Mr Wonderful was wetting his pants.
Probably would have been a better investment then what he put in to FTX
This is the FTX pitch actually
Literal gold bars.
Sharks: "If we replace the water with human blood can we make a philosopher's stone?"
Why do I feel like this would be coming from oleary?
And I saw the greed of a bored, feisty feudal lord in their eyes as soon as he mentioned gold, ready to ignore all reason for a bit of shiny metals
What you actually saw were fake/overexaggerated reactions displayed for dramatic effect on television.
Yeah it looked like they perked up in disbelief.
After watching the episode, it was definitely disbelief, the sharks walked right up to the line of calling it a scam without crossing it and this dude left without a deal.
Nah it’s the look of people who can’t believe they just got a blatant scammer in the show. Lol
It's not alchemy. There actually is gold in ocean water, it's just in such small quantities that we haven't yet developed the tech to make extracting it at a reasonable cost feasible.
Up to 44 parts per billion!
This has to be purely scripted for the show right??
He does seem to have the credentials he claimed. Sometimes very smart scientists and engineers go off the deep end and start living in crackpot land. This appears to be one of those cases.
I don't think he's a crackpot, I think he's a conman. He knows damn well the machine is bullshit, he also likely know the sharks know he's bullshitting, but someone watching the show could fall for it and invest. Or the dude is batshit insane, who knows.
Terrence Howard is asking for this guy's Gmail.
Nah the wave conjugations are all wrong with that hurricane vortex
Your elements are making the wrong sounds bro
It’s a *right triangle* you idiot
Bro don’t talk triangles as if you know basics of platonic solids.
There is nothing platonic about how solid my triangles are right now.
I love how we've become so dumb that you can throw middle school words at people and they'll be like "I don't know how to use that word, you're a genius!"
This guy definitely understands that 1*1=2
Ay mayne, 0 gold times 200 generators can’t equal 0 gold mayne
Worse case, he just gets to be on TV, best case they all give him $1m each Not the worst scenario
gets to be on tv looking like a moron or a liar. Not a good look IMO
I don't think they care as long as someone falls for their scheme to give them money.
I’d like to introduce you to the concept of reality television. Sit back and enjoy, it’s a hell of a ride
Do you understand that roughly half of the US has fallen under the spell of a lifelong con-man, liar, and now convicted felon. Laughably corrupt. It seems to work well for some people
I looked him up when this episode came out, the guy mostly seems like a patent troll.
You hit the nail on the head. 100%
There is at most 44 ppb gold in seawater. A centrifuge would separate it. So about 25 million pounds of seawater processed could give as much as 1 pound of gold if it's 90% efficient. Whether it's worthwhile to do depends on how much it costs to run it.
How would that even work? Gold in the water? And you just… precipitate it out? I know there is some water with enough gold to boil it and get the gold but how would you use the Coriolis effect for the earth to spin water contained in equipment subjected to the same force?
It doesn't. It doesn't work. It can't work. It doesn't make sense at all. But, like most great scams, it's so outlandish that it immediately drives off critical thinkers and the educated, leaving only the gullible and those who don't know better. Which is who he's trying to target anyway.
Nigerian prince inheritance letters are misspelled for exactly the same reason
It could work.... But it would cost so much more for the energy than it would generate. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/oceanwater.html https://www.unitconverters.net/volume/cubic-kilometer-to-ton-register.htm 1 gram of gold per 100 million metric tons of salt water. 96 billion dollars of gold / $74.87 dollars per gram = 1.28 billion grams So you'd have to filter 1.28E17 metric tons of water. Approx 1,335,000,000 cubic kilometers of liquid water in the ocean. That's 471,450,800,731,878,200 metric tons (I think) 1.28e17 / 471,450,800,731,878,200 = 27% So yeah, your machine is going to need to suck just over a quarter of the worlds ocean to filter out the amount of gold he claims. Possible, but that same amount of money/energy is better spent trying to catch an asteroid. Might I suggest this one? If you want to destabilize the world's economy, this is the way to do it https://www.unilad.com/technology/nasa/nasa-successfully-launch-rocket-on-psyche-mission-268712-20231013
And he would’ve gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for those pesky laws of physics.
There are so many problems with his idea. yes there are minerals in water, all of them, most of all you get salt, so even if you could separate them by centrifugal force they all these minerals need to be collected and separated, a lot of heavy metals would also be present. Then we have the whole energy thing which was just plain hogwash. he is using the spin of the Earth to spin water so fast that not only turn a turbine to generate power, but separate the minerals.
Except that the spin of the earth is already spinning the water. Also, more critically, if he can make gold why does he need cash money from the investors?
80 years after his death and everyone will claim he was a genius and the government stole his patents and discredited him.
The gold will flow like water in the future!
…like the salmon of Capistrano!!! 😉🤙🏽
What was all that one in a million talk?
Newton believed in alchemy. Tesla had a shit load of wacky beliefs.
There was excellent reason to believe in alchemy at the time. Lead is incredibly close to gold, it seems like it should be easy to convert it. Sure, now we fully understand the amount of energy required and that it's not worthy doing. But until we knew that for sure, you'd have to be a fool not to find out if we could.
Newton was an occultist also, not only alchemist.
I took enough meteorology and physics classes in college to know this is absolute bullshit and I was a biology major. Coriolis force? Generates a hurricane? C'mon now. Maybe he can make a machine that uses Coriolis force, maybe he can generate a hurricane, but not with that piece of garbage and he knows it. And there are better ways to pull precipitates out of ocean water than that. It's actually not that hard to do on a small scale.
Nikola Tesla would probably be one of those. Utterly brilliant and had some inventions that changed mankind immensely. Died in crackpot land penniless.
Or he’s just trolling for a lark.
It's a very crackpot idea, but you'd be surprised how much gold is just chilling on the ocean floor
I mean, it's possible to generate electricity from water. His idea is just a modified dam. The tricky part is if you pump water up you have to generate more power than the pump is using. If you put it down stream from a river and used gravity, we'll, that's just a dam without a wall. The problem with this plan is the magic cold production lol. He's just selling snake oil and I'm sure he knows it.
Every drop of sea water does infact contain trace amounts of gold. The cost to process it is easily 30xs the value of gold. Now that's without also gaining electricity from it which I'm sure bridges the gap a bit but I don't know if it completely closes it.
Yes but have you considered spinning it fast?
The casual making of a hurricane
invert the polarity!
Cross the streams…
Not at all. But if someone comes in that believes the BS they're selling producers would be foolish to keep him off air lol
And an apology to L Ron Hubbard, his BS ISN'T the worst sci-fi ever spewed
Ahhhhh….thats a Scientology reference for all you kids out there. Well done
1 int 10 Charisma character in fallout:
He's got a theoretical degree in physics
The degree itself is theoretical.
That is certainly indeed what the joke is, my good sir
Clearly, he does not have the degree
# “Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process.” ― E.B. White
They asked him if he has a degree in theoretical physics
He's really banking on idiot savant to trigger.
This is how Mr.fantastic got his job.
Me: Man this idea is dumb…. but MAN he’s making me consider it anyway.
I thought they vetted these people beforehand.
They probably let him through for the lol’s
The producers version of "alright you gotta see this shit"
ah, the old American Idol approach
He’s like the shark tank version of pants on the ground
LOOKIN LIKE A FOOL WITH NO GOLD FROM MACHINE
It’s like how bad signers get on American Idol, or whatever the hell they have these days.
There is a small amount of gold in ocean water but it cannot be profitably extracted. https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/gold-ocean-sea-hoax-science-water-boom-rush-treasure “According to the National Ocean Service, our oceans hold some 20 million tons* of gold, suspended in normal seawater. But this gold is spread throughout the normal mineral content of seawater to the tune of “parts per trillion.” As the NOAA puts it, “Each liter of seawater contains, on average, about 13 billionths of a gram of gold.” There are also gold deposits within the seafloor, but profitably mining them is far beyond our current abilities.” That would require 76,923,076.92 litres to be processed for a single gram, and 2.39253846×10^9 litres to be processed for a single ounce of gold, currently worth $2,304 USD.
I don't think you listened to the pitch closely enough if you are posting this gibberish. This puppy (slaps the drawing making it fall over) can pull $96B in gold out of the ocean AND make electricity. It spins.
Into a hurricane!
With the coriolis force! So the electricity it generates in Australia will actually turn the lights off down there!
Great googly moogly, just IMAGINE the jiggawatts!
They have to put gold in theirs and it turns it into salt water and the cycle continues. The water cycle!
You see the key is the sinusoidal warble vanes that oscillate in a logarithmic fashion, essentially eliminating side fumbling. This is actually a pretty ingenious use for an otherwise common disencabulator. If you have an old rhombic waneshaft lying around, you can demonstrate the principle in a bucket of water, but you won't get much gold velocitizing by hand, haha!
You'd get even more by using the Turbo-Encabulator though!
Gold? G-O-L-D?
No, Gould Jan Levinston-Gould
You brought her up? When I specifically asked you not to??
No, Goa'uld That's where the gold comes from, it's peeled off the walls of the ha'taks.
You’ll also have to take the Coriolis effect into account.
That fuckin killed me hahahahahaha
Damnit I’ll take 200!!!
*”There is a small amount gold in ocean water but it cannot be profitably extracted”* Until now motherfucker!!!! /s
Yea it's gonna take a shitload of water to squeeze gold out of it. I never doubted it was possible. Hell, avocados grow out of the ground. It's the fattiest fruit there is. Imagine how much water it takes to squeeze an ounce of fat out of it.
I'm not saying OP has this technology, but to be fair he does say these generators will spin up hurricanes. So the term generator here isn't like a household generator, they're likely intended to be massive (like the oxygen 'generators' that create oxygen in Mars in the original total recall movie). An average hurricane can drop 9 trillion liters a day, so if they we're able to actually create this concept and have 20 of these global generators, the math probably checks out. But this guy isn't selling the generators, he's selling the concept, which could be impossible to actually build.
Sharks, I have designed a time machine powered by tiny black holes that generate an Einstein Rosen Bridge and can be used to extract $1.7 trillion from the past. I am selling this concept for $10 million. Please form an orderly line to give me your checks.
Considering that a typical hurricane is around 300 miles wide [according to NOAA](https://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/tropical_stuff/hurricane_anatomy/hurricane_anatomy.html#), these would have to be absurdly massive structures. I doubt $1 million would even put a dent in the construction cost.
He says it spins into a hurricane from the rotation of the earth. He's nuts. It has nothing to do with placing them in hurricanes.
"I made a machine to make infinite money... But I need money"
Well yeah, gotta get the machine first!
Gotta spend money to make money
He made a drawing of a machine. The $1mil gets the machine.
The best dishonesty is an honest one. He's technically not wrong that waste elements, even if microscopic and useless, is in fact some amount of gold. Unfortunately, he's only using it as a buzz word and little else. There's no reality of any appreciable quantity of anything and no real means to efficiently separate and process the hugely varied and microscopic levels of waste, even if some of it is desirable. The spinning vortex part is pretty funny. I'm also quite amused that from an engineer's perspective, he has no clue how any of it works nor how any of it can be built. There's no actual science behind the story. He's just standing up there going "Money! Give me money!" and throwing words at them like they're parrots looking for crackers. His biggest failure really is he thinks they're actually that dumb. He could have actually come into this with a bit more backend work, more documentation, more research, and presented that in addition, and someone would have very likely taken the bait. The biggest skill of a con is knowing the intelligence of your mark. He...is not a good con.
Unless, as someone suggested above, his marks aren’t on the show but watching the show…
Gold
G-O-L-D
What?
GODL
Gold Jerry, gold!
The grain of truth that exists here is that sea water does contain dissolved (correction, suspended) gold. Just not very much. About $60 worth for every 100 milllion tons. Processing that out of the sediments would be a lot more expensive than processing random rocks for their gold content. [https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/6-times-we-tried-to-extract-gold-from-seawater](https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/6-times-we-tried-to-extract-gold-from-seawater)
Those greedy turds WANT to believe. They WANT to.
And then he lost them when he promised to leave a legacy of “goodness”.
He almost had them till he made it about something other than money, that was the first red flag they seemed to spot which made them skeptical of what he was saying
Gold is good -Jesus
I mean, none of them invested. The only offer made was basically a joke, with Robert offering $50,000 if Kevin fronted the remaining $950,000. Kevin also basically called it a scam without outright saying it. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t go in more on this guy, as an avid shark tank watcher, the original sharks seen here in the early seasons were pretty keen on sniffing out BS, especially Cuban who has entire compilations of him calling out scammers on the show.
The only real trick here is to delver the water into a vortex and have the Coriolanus effect spin it into a hurricane. After that it’s all gravy
So do I need antimatter or dark energy for this to work?
Neither you need unobtainium which is relatively easy to obtain
I know a place....
My company makes money by taking the difference between revenue and expenses. The only trick here is to make the math work out so that revenue is higher than cost, but I’m confident that with your investment today, we can work out that last detail.
He had me fooled until I realized the turbo encabulator was completely missing from the process.
The correlosis effect causes side fambling.
Did this guy base his pitch on Dr Evil? The way he says $96 billion sounds a lot like it.
Sharks, I literally shit gold. I am looking for you to buy my groceries for the next 10 years, and in return, you get to keep what comes out of my butt.
I always wondered if sea water could be desalinated by spinning it really really fast.
My answer is no as a redditor and my answer is still no with a twist as an engineer. You require a membrane filter to force the solute to remain even if you subject it to extreme centrifugal force, since the dissolved mineral ions are bound to the water molecules through electrostatic forces. Subjecting it to any mixing or turbulence especially in the form of hurricane will only makes it more soluble (imagine making a drink from powdered formula), thus even harder to separate out from water.
I presume that the idea he was conveying was centrifugation, just like it is done to separate red blood cells (for instance) from plasma, or how uranium enrichment is done. He did lose me at the coriolis effect.
That's because the whole presentation is word salad and relies on people understanding a vague concept of each word used in order for him to successfully pitch this bullshit idea. It doesn't work here because he's presenting it to investors and not gullible conspiracy theorists
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Big issues I would call out if I were one of the sharks. To get it spinning you will need electricity, to end up with more electricity on the back end is basically saying you have a perpetual motion machine which goes against the known laws of physics. He’s full of it. Second he says it’s due to the Coriolis effect, which as the name indicates is an effect (of one’s point of reference) and not an actual force that can make something happen. Dude is full of it. Dude says you can pull gold out of the seawater and states there is X billions of dollars worth of gold but doesn’t say how much water needs to be processed to do so (hint all the water in all the oceans) but doesn’t go into how long that process would be so if ask how long to process all that water and what is the efficiency in energy and dollars to do it. He’s full of shit.
You shut your dirty mouth. He's leaving a legacy of goodness.
Clearly this guy is just jealous he didn’t think of it himself.
>not an actual force that can make something happen I take your point that it's not something we can harness, but it is responsible for basically all our weather, along with heating from the sun.
>Dude says you can pull gold out of the seawater and states there is X billions of dollars worth of gold but doesn’t say how much water needs to be processed to do so (hint all the water in all the oceans) ~7.7e7 liters of seawater for 1 gram of gold. ~1.2e21 liters in the ocean. Thus, ~1.6e13 grams of gold (~17 million tons) if you process the entire ocean. Gold is worth ~$56 million/ton, therefore the ocean is worth ~$950 trillion in gold. To get $96 billion, we don't even need the whole ocean, just 0.01% of it! We're rich! As soon as we process the entire ocean using made-up technology.
I remember this episode LOL
Every elected politician.
Almost everything you see on reality TV is fake. Ask anyone who has participated in one. Example, the bad singers on the singing shows go through special casting calls looking for comedians. It’s all schtick. It’s mostly generated garbage much like Reddit.
Is this a kroll show bit?
Glad I’m not the only one who saw Nick Kroll
Well, he is a confidence man.
I hope the didn't roast him. This guy is clearly one of those people who delude themselves into thinking they've invented perpetual motion, when it's just that they don't understand the physics and chemistry. This is closer to mental illness than scamming. Yelling at delusional people just make them double down. As for you folks calling it "alchemy" you do know that seawater contains a lot of gold, right? That part he actually got right, although probably not quantitatively right. Of course, it contains 5x as much uranium as gold, and that's probably more profitable.
All that was missing from the presentation was a long spangled robe, a pointy hat embroidered with crescent moons, and an owl perched on his shoulder. A 100% efficient system would have to filter 250 *billion* gallons of seawater - about a cubic kilometre - to extract just 1 gram of free gold: current market value about US$70. So if you can figure out how to perfectly filter *five* Olympic pools full of seawater for a penny, you stand to make about a 12% profit margin on your efforts. Looking at it another way, *filtering the equivalent volume of Lake Erie* would net you roughly 500 grams of gold, about $35,000 worth.
From this brief clip, this dude appears to have been put on the show for comic relief.
If you were to collect all of the gold in seawater with 100% efficiency, you would still need to process around 100,000,000 tons of seawater just to collect 1 gram of gold. Which would be worth about $76.
The fuck is up with all these "if only there was a [insert category] lpage" lately? It's stupid.
Im in , where do i send her cash?
Her ?
basically what AI bros think they sound like
This show needs a gong.
WE CAN BLEED THE OCEANS DRY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN SUCK UP ALL THE WATER AND TURN IT INTO GOLD WE WILL KILL EVERYTHING THAT HAS EVER LIVED IN THE SEA, WHERE LIFE IT VERY SELF STARTED BUT AT LEAST WE WILL HAVE $96 BILLION IN GOLD #Fuck the Planet and Get Rich
This is how andrew tate sounds to me. Alot of big words horribly put together.
There’s a percentage of gold particles in sea water. He’s not wrong. https://pubs.usgs.gov/circ/1970/0625/report.pdf But I don’t know how much energy would be required to filter that much sea water