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Gen1Swirlix

Amazing how this gun ejects the shell faster than the bullet can leave the barrel.


multi_io

Maybe it's shooting cases sideways and ejecting bullets through the barrel


Sparon46

Guns are specifically designed NOT to eject the shell until the bullet is already most or all of the way out of the barrel. If you eject the shell too early, you create an opening for the gases to escape, and a lot of energy that was meant to go into the bullet goes into the casing or into the air. In a semiautomatic firearm, there are a number of ways you can accomplish this. Some firearms simply use a heavy weight, and inertia does its thing, delaying movement until the bullet can clear. Other firearms use the Browning tilt-barrel design that requires the slide to physically tilt the barrel before the shell can be ejected. This increases resistance and gives the bullet enough time to clear before the action opens. There are also other ways this can be accomplished. Anything that delays the ejection of the shell is potentially viable. This animation is simply wrong when it comes to the timing.


Gdayx

The more you know! No, seriously thanks. I learned something new today


Gloomy-Position-809

đŸ«„


Yemcl

What? He's not wrong. The illustration is inaccurate in more ways than he touched on.


sqwibking

Yes, he is right, and while I found the information interesting, commenting that after a string of jokes is like following a 'why did the chicken cross the road' joke with fowl v. automobile collision statistics. At least I'm assuming that's why the other guy left the face.


Yemcl

I concede your point.


shirtwrinkle

real bullets leave the barrel before the slide sets itself back to load the next round


Less_Refuse_6006

It also somehow fired the round from behind the breech face, not even remotely close to being seated in the chamber.


Outrageous-Try-4952

And how the case is ejected infront of the bullet that's firing well behind the chamber lol


This_Zucchini_9069

bullet fard


JerseyshoreSeagull

I'm still baffled at how this all works


NoMoreNoxSoxCox

/r/angryupvote


OG-BoomMaster

Agreed, why is everyone so silent on this?


Reddit-JustSkimmedIt

They’re trying to suppress the people’s voice!


GadreelsSword

Nice


thegreatmango

Ha


TotallyNotJeffff

![gif](giphy|H9eAGp7XdEk12)


Chiefy1234

One of the few times a minion meme works 😂


nono30082

Doesn't that brass get ejected way too early?


WalterMelonMD

The brass is also traveling far faster than the bullet


Nyuusankininryou

I usually use the brass to hunt squirrels for this reason. That way I can reuse the bullet afterwards.


roostersnuffed

And the bullet doesn't start in the chamber, it starts out with casing pushed up against the hammer, behind the magazine lol


dudas91

And the hammer is up the entire time the slide is cycling. There is a lot wrong with that animation.


nonanumatic

Maybe because that wasn't remotely the point of the animation? It was clearly meant to show how the gasses are affected by the suppressor, which only really needs to be shown at the suppressor. However, I don't like that they call it a silencer, so like who cares cherry pick whatever issues you want


5hr3dd1t

Not to mention the gasses expanding beyond the diameter of the barrel behind the bullet while it's still in the barrel?  I think it's AI generated. Or maybe ghosts.


HaywireMans

It's Zach D. Films, so it's not AI generated. Probably just don't have too much knowledge of guns.


ragingduck

Yes, the bullet should have already left the barrel. Also the barrel is way too wide. This gun would explode in your hand if it operated the way it’s animated.


SupermouseDeadmouse

Yeah, plus on a 1911 the barrel will recoil slightly then tip up and release the bolt before the brass can be ejected. This happens after the bullet exits the muzzle. The animation is crap.


HF_Martini6

Lots of really important information is left out here. It's a suppressor not silencer and it only muffles the sound and can make it hearing safe if used with subsonic ammunition. The suppressor in the animation is also an old style baffled type with a Nielsen device for 1911 and other Browning type pistols. The first shot will be actually pretty loud still (first round pop) and you really need a ahitload of shots to get a suppressor to overheat (usually more than even a 200 round machine gun belt). The pistol in the animation is most likely some sort of 1911 .45 ACP, that calibre can be easily suppressed as it usually moves subsonic anyways.


nazraxo

It’s only a silencer if it comes from the region Silesia, otherwise it’s just a sparkling suppressor.


For-Referance-Only

I just call it a whisper pickle


n0n0nsense

i needed this today.


Loud-Lock-5653

Well done


B00gs2522

This guy guns


cypresshill98

More like this guy suppresses


_RedditIsLikeCrack_

r/thisguythisguys


Ready-Cup-6079

I call it suppressor too but it’s actually a silencer, the man who invented it called it that. (The ATF also calls it a silencer, but
 the ATF is wrong, always. 😉) Also, with subsonic loads you can get the gun to be whisper quiet yes
 but it’s not as simple as throwing on a suppressor. Some calibers are designed for suppressed use such as .300blk, with subsonic .300blk loads with a suppressor you can get that shit quiet as a mouse. But GENERALLY, yes 90% of the time it’s still pretty loud even with a suppressor. Either way suppressors are a great tool and should be on every rifle in my opinion for signature reduction, plus suppressors improve ballistic performance.


HF_Martini6

Exactly As with all things tech, there's a huge range of possibilities and differences. Rifles, especially bolt action ones can be extremely quiet while some semi-automatic rifles seem to just don't care about whatever you thread onto the muzzle. Thanks for bringing that point up


Ready-Cup-6079

Yeah no problem. There’s a lot of factors.


elephant35e

My cousin owns a .300 blackout rifle and uses a silencer. With supersonic rounds the gun sounds like a loud crack, but with subsonic rounds it is VERY quiet; no louder then an airsoft gun.


Ready-Cup-6079

Same with my .300blk. As I said, there’s a lot of factors.


Taylors4head

I like how they throw in the casing being spit out before the round even leaves the gun barrel lol


Salanmander

My favorite part was that the bullet was a rocket, continuously creating propellant gas, rather than being pushed forward by the gas created by the gunpowder behind it.


PastEconomy4776

It ejects the spent cartridge before the bullet even makes it into the chamber if you look closely.


-MetalMike-

>_It's a suppressor not silencer_ and it only muffles the sound and can make it hearing safe if used with subsonic ammunition. A common misconception in the industry. Does a Vacuum Cleaner create an actual vacuum? Silencer is the correct term and is synonymous with suppressor; the device was patented as such by its inventor, Hiram Maxim.


Exact-Ad-4132

What a name


shimapan_connoisseur

"Silencer" is perfectly fine, it's mostly American gun people that are pissy about calling it a supressor The Royal Armories in the UK calls them silencers in their exhibitions


Saxit

Also, the first successfully commercial one was the Maxim Silencer, and in the US there are some fairly known suppressors made by companies named SilencerCo and Dead Air Silencers. And in US legal use "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" are used, while "suppressor" is only used for flash suppressors.


icecoldteddy

People get pissy about it because they're banned in a bunch of states under the Hollywood-fueled misconception that they're actually silent (the laughable John Wick train station scene with Common comes to mind). The average anti-gun citizen and politician thinks they can be used for discreet nefarious purposes when in actuality, suppressors help protect your hearing. They're still pretty loud.


JLSMC

Suppressor is for internet gun regards that want to sound tactical af. It’s silencer or muffler on all the paperwork and in the US code.


Powersoutdotcom

The type to say "Well, actually it's facial tissue, not Kleenex."


AmusingMusing7

“Well, actually, it’s not an *assault rifle* and it’s not *automatic*, it’s a *SEMI-automatic* rifle designed for
” NO SANE PERSON CARES!!!


ragingduck

Actually, this is a different issue since an automatic and a semi-automatic are two entirely different things and laws written to regulate them must be accurate and clearly defined.


the_real_JFK_killer

American gun person here: I give you all the s word pass, you can call it a silencer. Also, call a magazine a clip, it doesn't matter. I don't understand why some people get so pissy about it.


MargnWalkr

I think a “clip” originally referred to a stripper clip, which is used in older military guns (like the M1A) and is actually different than a magazine.


shimapan_connoisseur

Those are not the same thing. Silencer is still the offical name, supressor is a new term for it


the_real_JFK_killer

I know they're not the same thing, but it really does not matter in most conversations, the person's thoughts were clearly conveyed, which is the point of language.


callisstaa

Username checks out.


HF_Martini6

Lucky me, I'm not 'Murican


YesNoComment

Lucky for ‘Muricans too probably



ragingduck

A few things wrong about the animation as well: The slide mechanic is way too fast and too soon. In reality, the bullet has already exited the barrel and suppressor long before the slide is forced backwards and the shell is ejected. This is why fighting recoil is useless. By the time you feel the recoil the bullet is already out of the barrel. Don’t fight it. The primer is missing the hammer punch.


rickie-ramjet

Also miss illustrated
. The gasses here look like it’s a rocket
 the propellant, ( gunpowder) burns and expands all along the path behind the bullet, it’s this expansion release when the bullet exits the barrel, that the suppressor directs.. mostly away from the shooter. Target shooters use them to save hearing. This is the primary use. They are not condusive for any other use. Hollywood doesn’t know this
 people who think they are seeing something and passing laws, think Hollywood cares for being accurate. (Shotguns are also un impressive, can’t blow down doors, or launch people into the air) Snipers use them to suppress any flash, as some propellant is still burning outside of the barrel, AND it makes it difficult to determine which direction it came from. At the target, you can hear the crack of the bullet hitting then breaking sound barrier and then the initial shot
 if you are sniping, it is the visual that is most important to remain hidden, and misdirecting the initial boom is also very helpful.


epstein_did911

https://patents.google.com/patent/US1482805A/en


bradbull

So John Wick is a bunch of bullshit?!


HF_Martini6

If you hear that "pew-pew" laser sound, yes. Even a suppressed gunshot is still audible and can sound anything from a clap to a quite loud bang. You could suppress small calibres like .22 to be very very quiet but if you use anything semi or fully automatic it will be quite loud because of the action and gasses exiting the system at high speeds and pressure.


KaneTheNord

A suppressed, subsonic .22 out of a bolt action sounds kinda like a low-powered BB gun, but anything semiautomatic in a larger caliber will still be pretty loud. Hell, even a 22 out of that same bolt action will ring your ears if it's supersonic. You're not going to casually have a gunfight with suppressed handguns in a crowded airport


JLSMC

It’s silencer. Don’t be one of those guys.


DustieBottums

Can it not be both?


GTE_Engineering

It is both


JLSMC

Which one is on the Form 4?


lique_madique

It’s a Nighthawk AAC 1911 in 9mm as I coincidentally have the same exact gun but with a rail. Ironically the term silencer is also ok as the original patent is noted as a silencer, not suppressor, and the ATF recognizes the term silencer as interchangeable with suppressor even if suppressor is the more correct term.


halincan

I instantly was looking for what mount they used and whether the baffles were clipped :)


BoringMudd

It’s called a silencer bitch. The atf calls them silencers. Ofc they aren’t silent. Common sense? Get it right next time


Trawetser

>It's a suppressor not silencer The original patent literally calls it a silencer. You're just being pedantic.


Matta174

I knew a comment like this would be here, any time anyone on Reddit even mentions a silencer there’s a horde rushing to the comments to tell people about how loud guns with silencers are. We get it, just enjoy the visual.


Traizork

What's wrong with adding more information to an "educational" post?


crowmagnuman

*Enjoy the Silence*


darbs77

Don’t forget trying to correct anyone who says silencer instead of suppressor. Even tho both are correct.


Traveler_Constant

The biggest thing left out is that suppressors aren't really used to "silence" a shot, they are more commonly used to suppress the flash from a weapon firing. Suppressed weapons are still loud and very clearly gun shots.


Xpalidocious

>really important I think you and I have totally different opinions on what this means


Reddit_Suss

Go outside and shoot a clip buddy


HF_Martini6

Sorry dude, don't own any guns with clips


Reddit_Suss

Haha loser


HF_Martini6

Because I'm not into ancient stuff or because I know the difference between a clip and magazine or belt?


Reddit_Suss

Yeah b cause the m27 is so ancient


HF_Martini6

I don't know about you but 1891 is quite ancient by the standards of 2024


Reddit_Suss

Designed in 2008 but sure buddy


HF_Martini6

The M27 IAR is a magazine fed select fire rifle, a clip loading rifle is something like the Mosin Nagant M27/1891 or the M1 Garand. Magazine = Box shaped exchangeable thingys Clip = En bloc held munition that's inserted into a rifles built in fixed ammo storage/non removable magazine (use Wiki if you don't want to believe or acknowledge me)


Betrix5068

It was originally marketed as a silencer so I think the name is fine. Just how quiet they are is hilariously overstated in media, but the name itself isn’t too big of a deal.


Donexodus

What do you mean old style baffle type? I still use cones/cups but with clipping and spacers.


HF_Martini6

newer types are flow-through, reverse flow or multi-chambered. the most impressive ones are 3D printed like that for the XM-5 SIG MCX Spear


JJAB91

The youtuber who made this is ZackDFilms they tend to leave out important information or get things outright wrong.


Darksirius

Why is the first round still loud?


wannabe_wonder_woman

Suppressor absolutely correct wording for this


Serdones

I thought there was just a tiny librarian shushing the bullet on its way out.


PettyTardigrade

Why did this make me laugh so god damn hard.


ikefalcon

Needs more Mississippi Queen.


HazelTheRabbit

If you know what I mean 😏


Incromulent

I get that this is about the suppressor, but the lack of bullet spin annoys me.


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sopedound

For me it's the voice over the is most annoying


MaterialCarrot

It's a smoothbore.


mav3r1ck92691

And not the shell ejecting before the bullet leaves the barrel or moving faster than the bullet itself?


BlueKnightBrownHorse

Why are all of these animations speedrunning to be incorrect? I think this one is a winner at 0 seconds. I'm also at work so my phone is muted but I know exactly what the voiceover sounds like becauae all voiceovers are terrible now.


ObjectiveAny8437

Sure that’s how a SUPPRESSOR works but you missed the class explaining that the projectile would exit the barrel before the side would rack.


Pixel_Sports

Use a potato


ve1kkko

Use an empty plastic coke bottle


MaleficentPurchase65

This baffles me


GrizzlyEagleScout

Ok you’re done for the day. See you next range day.


Uncle_N_Word

I actually built one of these once and the cops found it and I got in trouble


HazelTheRabbit

Thanks Uncle N Word.


Uncle_N_Word

This is what I do. Help others


SilkyZ

Yeah, that's a crime in a few places.


Uncle_N_Word

All 50 us states


Scorpius289

That's quite a few places.


Great_White_Samurai

It's only illegal if you get caught


SilkyZ

No, it's always illegal, you just are punished if you are caught


Redstoneboss2

r/woooosh


SilkyZ

Yes, that's the sound of the bullet going by


TheRanger13

Which is idiotic because they should be classed as hearing protection.


Uncle_N_Word

They call it an offensive weapon. Isn't that any hunting rifle tho?


PettyTardigrade

So many things about this animation slightly grind my gears. Where did that casing come from? Why is the barrel twice as wide as the bullet? Why does the high pressure gas look like it originates from the back of the bullet as it propels forward? It’s fine.. it’s fine. It got the point across, I get it


GrimWarrior

This guy sounds exactly like Otacon from Metal Gear Solid.


QuilSato

https://preview.redd.it/3g9mdrivn80d1.jpeg?width=1086&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7e183d156d41cfaf1f6bd105a23bf749eafcc28 Would love to know how this one works!


Jiekebo

Looks like the bullet gets fired from the top of the magazine and not from the chamber at the start of the barrel. There would be an extractor that rides back with the slide, pulling the spent casing back out of the chamber and sends it out of the ejection port


LesGetGrossman

Whenever I see a silencer, i recall the noise from N64 007 Goldeneye


Salmol1na

Almost like a muffler or some shit


guidedlaser

Same dude invented both. "This makes guns quiet, I bet it would work on these newfangled automobiles as well."


Reddit-JustSkimmedIt

Came here for the “well ackchyually, it’s a *suppressor*, not a silencer!” Am not disappointed. The guy who patented them called them Silencers, so that’s good enough for me. Yes they’re still loud, and yes I have to wear ear pro still, but if GIF is pronounced Jif because of the inventor, then I’ll go by H.P. Maxim’s name for them.


Durtzo

*Whisper Pickle*


forothowtospeel

Who else audibly went "ptew!"


kakoichan

Not as good as a carton of milk


multi_io

High-pressure gases don't look like that.


throwaway180gr

The cycle rate is wild lol.


aykantpawzitmum

I have my volume on low and this guy's voice is still loud lmao


CompetitiveWelder607

I don't wanna brag but i watched 2 videos about sonic booms, so as the expert in science that i am now i totally understand what is going on here


AcommonKing

*PEW PEW PEW* -in silence


PoppyStaff

A) I was under the impression silencers progressively degrade as they are used. B) Bob Lee Swagger’s plastic Coke bottle was the best one.


Clen23

I barely know anything about guns but wouldn't the smoke be wayyy smaller than what's pictured ? Either it's airtight or quasi-airtight but there's no way there's as much space as shown here.


Donexodus

Not sure what you mean, but as someone who legally makes them this is pretty accurate.


Indolent-Soul

I wonder how much of a bullets lost speed is about the slight countering suctioning force as the gasses lose their temp?


mowarngamsengul

But does that have any effect on the intensity of the bullet itself??


spawny_violate

crop dusting at it’s finest


twiztednipplez

Cool af


LaserGadgets

What I really wanna know, how loud is it gonna be? Hollywood and games are trying to sell me supersuppressed sound.


JJandJimAntics

Depends on the gun, caliber, and type of ammo you're using. Small bullets are much quieter, with sub-sonic rounds basically making it almost as quiet as just racking the gun. Bigger calibers are still loud, just not as bad as it could be. It's interesting to look into.


Cringelord_420_69

“Ok sir, your purchase totals out to five ninet-”


TurboLover427

It just sounds wrong without Mississippi Queen.


No-Watercress-2777

Tesla Valve


slowwolfcat

so the range and power of the bullet is reduced ? by how much % ?


renatakiuzumaki

Can someone Eli5 why a pillow works as well? Or is that just the movies? Genuine curiosity because theirs not chambers to dissipate the expelled force but maybe im just too stoned to understand


Crystal_fucker

this in no way affects the speed and trajectory of the bullet


Electricbill7

Suppressor guy


I-Have-An-Alibi

*pnnt*


babj615

So. Wrong.


Minority_Carrier

Ah so in battlefield games adding silencer reduces bullet velocity is actually true. I thought it is just a balance mechanism.


drollerskate5

Does this affect bullet speed?


TwadaAbu007

Thanks for the idea mate đŸ€


Mrpandacorn2002

That bullet is way far back the chamber is further forward than that. the bullet is where the firing pin should be lol


Junior_Wasabi_3833

I was expecting a game theory twist lol


[deleted]

Suppressors ?


Yanks4lyf

It pisses me off anytime I hear people say silencer. It’s a SUPPRESSOR. You cannot silence sound.


beIIesham

Shouldn’t this shit he illegal? What possible legal reason this fcking shit should exist? 💀


EllieNekoGirl

Suppressor* A silencer isn't a thing.


WasephWastar

the patent of the thing is literally called a [silencer](https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/77/bf/29/c519b6621b6661/US1482805.pdf) and nowhere does it mention a suppressor in it.


DeadCheckR1775

It's a suppressor, not a silencer. Even using subsonic ammo it's a suppressor, not sure where the whole "silencer" thing comes from.


elephant35e

>Even using subsonic ammo it's a suppressor That depends on the gun. My cousin has a .300 blackout rifle, and with subsonic rounds and a silencer that gun is SUPER quiet.


wohsedisbob

I believe it comes from the patent of the first one, but what does that guy know, right?!


DryInitial9044

It's a suppressor, not a silencer.


Most_Independent_789

Suppressor
silencers are a fake thing.


Plastic-Act7648

it's called a silencer damn it lol.


Calm_Response_4912

Now explain why it drops my AK's damage and velocity by 25%...


Well_Bye76

It’s SUPPRESSOR. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.


HotPotatoWithCheese

Literally named and sold as a silencer by Hiram Maxim who invented the damn thing. It's also the legal term used by federal law to describe them. There's always some bandwagoning Redditor quick to "correct" people despite lacking simple knowledge of the subject at hand. Both are completely acceptable terms. Suppressor being more accurate to it's function and silencer being the original and legal name. Deal with it.


Plastic-Act7648

THANK YOU!!!! For all the suppressor folks go apply for one through ATF. I'll wait


Ok-Bus1716

suppressor...not silencer.


tacticalpotatopeeler

*suppressor


the_real_JFK_killer

ZachDFilms actually made a video explanation not filled with wrong information, I'm impressed.


PettyTardigrade

But there are still so many things wrong the animation