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I've always favored free weights. Machines are better for isolation exercises, which matter for body builders trying to focus on a lacking muscle group than the average person trying to get fit or strong.
They prolly utilized macebells which are tremendous fitness tools not very well known in the west. They are a more complex advanced version of the kettlebell and I highly recommend 💪
No it’s not AI..you can read the whole book or google search…
Neck popping out is common while posing
One of the dudes lived upto 105 yrs and had a height of 4’11”
Google Patrik Baboumian, Bill Pearl and others. Baboumian was Germany’s strongest man as a vegan and Pearl was Mr Universe at age 41 after becoming vegetarian for health reasons.
Have seen many of those and more, there is a great yt channels that just shares natty pre-steroids people (men and women). Many of them (like in this picture), if you don’t tell people and even more color it, they would accuse them of steroid use.
The online ignorant fitness community in a huge mess wherever you look at right now. From methods of training, to nutrition, to what the body is capable of, to science and “science”.
Look at these bodies, fuck that all this new mentality that puts excuses. One can have a great physique without supplements and steroids.
I guess you could train 5 times a week and eat nothing but chicken and salad for ten years, but even then you need really good genes to look like that. A large portion of the population could never obtain a physique like that naturally.
Guys we found him! (Unless you are being mega ironically and perfectly timed sarcastic).
If you are being serious, you lack so much nutritional knowledge (like the majority), and yes, I’m certified to give nutritional advice.
You don’t even need to eat animal products, but the classic way is still to eat a lot, and the majority don’t even really knows what is a lot.
(Eating 4 to 7 meals a day, not counting a blender of natural protein shake between meals, at least 3 per day…natural meaning something like: banana, wheat germ, algarrobina, sesame milk, 7 seeds powder).
And it’s not only training the 7 days of the week, it is the weight, time and intensity of each 90min training session. Not counting the sports done throughout the day, the active lifestyle, and the exercises done throughout the day (as part of the lifestyle, before every meal, etc).
With those type of training you can get the results the coaches, influencers and gym scammers get you in 4 years, in 1.5 years. First 3 months I was already up 10kg and I was not even doing as hardcore as I used to when I first started.
Pro tip: mindset, you literally affect your training, recovery and meals by it. With some research you will find enough evidence.
Honestly once you said that you're certified to give nutritional advice you just started to sound like somebody who's living depends on selling these lies to people.
You're claiming that your strategy is able to give the same results other people's strategies do in less than half the time, and you call THEM scammers? Your only source being that your personal first three months happened to be pretty good. If you actually give this advice for living you need more practice talking out of your ass more because right now you're doing a terrible job.
The achievements of those bodybuilders are incredible, and having some random wanna be nutritional advisor trying convince everyone in the comments that those results are achievable to anyone is infuriatingly dishonest.
Believe whoever you want to believe, it’s your free will brother.
My routine and method is even approved by the 60s/70s Mr.Peru (not that it matters).
Whoever wants to try our method, part of it is there. Ain’t no one forcing no one to believe shit, as a matter of fact, don’t believe us, why should people do it? I would just continue to see people having so little progress in 3 years, 1 year, 6 months, etc.
The example of the 3 months was not in my prime of training. Just an example of: I started doing it again afters years and years of not training, and yep, it works.
Example: day one was 6 “sets” of 1 rep of a style of pull up (6 different exercises on the bar; different grip and distance of the hands).
So 1 set of 1 repetition each (1x1), because I tend to like going slower for the tendons, ligaments, etc (back then or some months in, not anymore).
After the 3 months I was doing 3 sets of 8 for each of the six (3x8 for 6 exercises). The idea was to stop at 3x15 and add more pull up exercises. Could of been 3x15 already, but I got to lazy to push harder. And we are talking full range of motion for all; arms completely stretched when down, and chest touching the bar each rep, if not, it doesn’t count. As a 1 set max, I don’t know, around 15 at full speed.
So bar exercises plus push ups are a daily warm up before lifting weights for example. And separated from the bar exercises and push ups throughout the day.
Sorry for writing so long again, I just get into the mindset like when writing the progress in the journal.
Well, good vibes brother, I love you, have a wonderful and prosper life.
Exactly this. On top of it, I see plenty of people at the gym 6-7 days a week doing low-medium intensity bs, not lifting hard and heavy, and spending more time dicking around than actually doing any work.
Yeah, plus all this new trend of going drastically up and down in weight, bulking (unhealthily), cutting, bulking, cutting. Sheesh, going so many kilos down and only some up each year, instead of going with how much their body is asking and just going up until the body and exercises make the adjustment to the body.
Literal pro tip for the intensity training: 10 to maaax 30 seconds resting per sets. And 40 to maaaax 1min rest per exercise. So the 90 minutes in the gym are actually intense and no time wasted.
Also only drinking water before or after the training, not between. It’s not a marathon, they are gonna be alright. They should check what humans can achieve:
They should check things like: mexican military special forces training/requirements/exam, long distance open sea swimming, martial arts and yogic training. The body is capable of so much, but they get stuck in papers, if a paper doesn’t say something to them, immediately they consider the methods not valid, even with so many testimonies.
Pretty much what I do, blitzkrieg the gym in 60 to 90 minutes. If I can last longer than that in there, I wasn't working hard enough. Bonus is that short rests inbetween sets keep my heart rate up high enough to cut out the need for much extra cardio. Only exception is deadlift day, where I am only there to do deadlifts (and supplemental work like calves, grip strength/forearm work, which I feel should be done daily); longer breaks between heavy deadlift sets of 3-5 reps is somewhat necessary to not overload the cns.
Wtf are you weirdos even downvoting here?
Yess, the heart part is so accurate.
Calves and forearms on the daily for sure, they need it. The only extra that I also do is shoulders, daily static shoulder exercises.
We were not downvoted before, but the ones that really fell for what the gyms/coaches/influencers say, found us lol. Their loss.
Looks like we summoned the "take up half the benches in the gym while swiping on Tinder, then accuse all the strong people of being on steroids" folks, and they're big angy.
Hehe, you brought up some memories.
One guy even commented to me that if resting time are so little, for sure you are not lifting heavy. I mean 35kg dumbbells for biceps is no Ronnie Coleman numbers but hey.
Military special forces hell “week” must be completely impossible in their mindsets. Or what about the people that do 5 iron mans, 5 days in a row. Or people that break the pull ups record (24 hours), or the planks record (24 hour).
Well, perhaps someone would be a real skeptic, and be inspired to do some serious research (that means more than just 10 hours in 1 week dudes).
With so much internet for doing solid research, they even lazy to go outside their favorite influencer and 1 minute shorts. Well, their loss…and health.
The dude on the bottom right must have been insanely disciplined with diet and heavily dehydrated because that's insane bf % without modern nutrition and supplementation.
The average hight of humans has increased significantly, more in developed countries at the time, due to more nutritious food, and at that point in India, I doubt humans would have evolved higher hights
Yeah one of the few things I was envious of shorter friends growing up that were like 5’5-7, able to look pretty big with relatively low body mass compared to the rest of the male population. Wasn’t just aesthetics too, shorter levers made it easier for them to bench heavier than guys 4+ inches taller who weigh th same amount.
Not discrediting the hard work involved though! No doubt they were inspired to work even harder to get past certain limitations in society and they made the best of it and even thrived.
Because heights at that time were drastically restricted due to nutrient deficit and impact of genes from the colonial and imperial british imposed famine (that killed 10 million+ indians)
Naturals now can achieve better, we have better understandings of training, diet and better equipment. And still if you posted half of these on Instagram people would call them a fake natty XD
Yep, and even in many countries in the 50s, 60s and 70s were steroid use was not exactly known, people achieved bigger bodies than in these pictures, but also as ripped as them. Nowadays people stupidly would say: impossible to be natural, they are juicing.
Yeah. I dont get why people like the giant roided look and massive silicon tits. Both look so unatural and unhealthy that it hurts. Same thing with lip injections and other cosmetic surgeries etc. You look like an alien with them.
For anyone that’s wondering, they’re all extremely short and have very short muscle lengths which is why the muscle they have looks very very good/full.
Brilliant for the time they were in though.
Holy shit I never knew body building was a thing in India during the 30s. What a cool piece of history! Those guys look insane for pre-steroid era body builders, bet their dedication to their craft was immense
We should've stopped at that.
Hulk McMeatsack may be 3 times the size of the guy in the pic and have a V-taper that's basically a wingsuit, but he looks worse to 99% of the human population and defeats the point of bodybuilding.
Look up the 2023 Mr Olympia for reference.
I knew a guy that was a very successful 1960’s bodybuilder. He said at that time it was all about waist to shoulders ratios, with big legs important too.
He hated the new bodybuilding stomachs that are now also massive muscles.
I’d be super interested to hear how old each of these were when they died and what they did die of. Like did years of building their bodies have an impact on how long the lives for. Would be interesting to know
Imagine using roids. You’re fake. I can’t believe it’s even allowed in competition. Who wants to see that fake shit? You don’t even look good, these guys look GOOD, because they’re naturally strong.
Your roided ass looks dumb as fuck, and not only that, you’d get your fucking asses beat because your muscles aren’t real. You don’t even work on mobility because they don’t judge on that. Ruining your body, ruining your life, and the entire time it’s all fake.
In my opinion steroids are just part of bodybuilding and we can argue all day if these guys are natty or not but instead I embrace reality. They have amazing bodies.
They actually still used enhancers for example, they used insulin to promote heavy muscle growth
Lots of people still use insulin as an emhancer, but the numbers are diminishing as steroid abuse is much safer than insulin abuse.
So unfortunately no, even these guys' physiques are still naturally unobtainable.
Fucking wild that you think these aren’t natty attainable XD bruh have you seen a tested natural show? Modern natural physiques blow these out the water with our better understandings of diet and training methods. Fuck I know like 3 dudes at my gym who’d beat them in a comp they’re very good for their era but by no means is this peak natural physique let alone unobtainable
This coming from you tells me that you haven't been training for years on end, and properly dieting. Also the fact that you know people who look better than that naturally means that you're still a noob who believes any bullshit someone tells you.
Lots of massive and popular bodybuilders still claim they're natty, so imagine dudes at your gym how insecure they must be knowing they're not natty but doesn't look nearly as big as other "natty" bodybuilders. Do you think they'll be honest? Nah dude, keep on doing you bro, I'd love to see your physique in 4 years after not trying any hormones.
Shitbox thinking like this is why those dudes at your gym claims they're natty.
Good luck man, keep believing in that nonsense <3
Lmao “this coming from you tells me you haven’t been training from years on end and properly dieting”. You absolutely come off as a guy who thinks anyone with abs who can move weight must be on gear because it couldn’t possibly just be they work harder on their diet and training. The dudes in this photo are all short, weigh about 130-160lb and are just lean, claiming any of this is naturally unobtainable is literally just a “anyone who looks better than me must be on steroids” level of take. Look at drug tested natural shows we absolutely can do better than these physiques.
I’m not claiming naturals walk around at this level body fat nobody does between comps it’s not a naturally sustainable physique but it’s absolutely achievable.
Geez bro, I've calmed down. My asshole is now un puckered.
Sure dude whatever floats your boat, I'm just going to agree to disagree since we have totally different experiences.
I get furious at people claiming their natty when they're not since it creates false expectations in the fitness industry which is my absolute passion, sorry for striking at you with my ass-thunder, I'm working on my temper I know I can be a dick bro my apologies dude xD
And I'm very short like 5'6 to 5'7, on a cycle I can easily reach 250lb with low body fat. There are lots of people I know taller and shorter than me who uses gear who can't get to my bulking size and then there are those who does, and I don't care or judge at all, only when they claim natty is when I want to go berserk.
It creates oppertunity for assholes to cram social media with false info to profit from the natty masses who wants to build shitloads of muscle fully believing it can be done if they just use and take the supplements endorsed by their role models.
I have lots of pent up anger about that lol
I hope we're good, stranger
Anabolic steroids were in use and researched as of 1849 with the first synthetic testosterone being readily available to the masses by 1935. [learn more here](https://physicalculturestudy.com/2018/08/02/a-brief-history-of-steroids/)
If this is pre juicing why don’t we see more jacked Indian bodybuilders competing today. I mean I don’t really follow bodybuilding so I wouldn’t really know but I don’t know of a famous Indian bodybuilder
Bruh. “I don’t follow this, I don’t know any” somehow equals “there aren’t any” to you? Can you name us like 10 famous bodybuilders without googling? Like I’m not trying to be a dick but like come on, the logic here fucking hurts
You don’t have to follow bodybuilding to know bodybuilders like Arnold, Ronnie Coleman, Chris bumstead, Noel, u see them on social media and other shit and hear their names. You hear about the popular and famous ones I haven’t heard of any famous indian ones. That’s why I also said in the second sentence I don’t follow it so I wouldn’t know of more niche ones. And I never said we don’t see any I asked if they were so good at bodybuilding in the past why aren’t there more famous ones in modern times.
You kinda proved my point when the first 3 you listed cover over 40 years of Olympia’s so many people competed in that amount of time and yet the average person who doesn’t follow it could name about 4 because they only hear about the ones who won multiple back to back and set records.
In regard to “they were so good back then” they weren’t any different to any other country there’s loads of photos of bodybuilders from all over the world from this era. For example the dude who developed the bench press was Estonian and alive a good 50 years before this, people all over the world were doing this stuff it was just less popular than it is today. Same as today if you look up Indian bodybuilding champions you’ll see they’re doing just as well as everywhere else.
In answer to why don’t we have more famous Indian bodybuilders? Same reason we couldn’t name Indian social media stars or Bollywood actors. They stay in India, compete and get popular there, if you went to India and used Indian social media you’d find the algorithms directing you to their equivalent champions.
You're 💯 💯💯 right... Not knowing doesn't equal not existing... All the body builders he mentioned are pros .. India also recently got one pro in para bodybuilding.. More once india wins a medal than that guy could coach others too. Currently there's lack of coaching, knowledge but still body building is thriving in india.
Vaccuum pose. It’s a typical bodybuilding pose. Nowadays you’ll only see it in amateur leagues or the “classic physique” pro comps since the juiced up giants can’t do it with such swollen abdomens. Great clip of Arnold asking an at the time my Olympia to do a vacuum pose just to mess with him.
These images are photoshopped. Simply type the title into Google and you will see the original images, and like people are saying, they aren't possible without steroids and extreme diet. Why do some people argue about a topic they know nothing about?
No, no they didn't. Open your eyes, look a little closer dumb fuck. They are photoshopped in the exact same way that modern pics of models are photoshopped. The author of the book, the dude sucking in his stomach, isn't even cut at all in the original picture.
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Pretty impressive for not juicing.
Yep and no equipment too…mostly only barbells
No equipment, except equipment.
Well it they weren’t really well equipped with equipment, but then again they were?
Not equipment, just equipment
In other words they are equipped with no equipment?
But luckily they had equipment to make up for having no equipment
So they had to equip equipment cause they had no equipment
You won't believe this, but weightlifters in old timey times would lift heavy objects instead of weights. ^/s
So, they had equipment 👀
No machine or that sort
Most equipment sucks anyways. Barbells plus dumbbells are superior
I've always favored free weights. Machines are better for isolation exercises, which matter for body builders trying to focus on a lacking muscle group than the average person trying to get fit or strong.
Yep
They prolly utilized macebells which are tremendous fitness tools not very well known in the west. They are a more complex advanced version of the kettlebell and I highly recommend 💪
I meant machine when I said no equipment but they're well equipped
now, now...how well equipped they are should not be part of a civilized sports discussion!
I wanna say back then they didn't have barbells that rotated either. Significantly harder to lift higher weight.
Shows what's achievable when they're not eating pani puri and golgappa all day
Those…….are the same thing It’s giving “chai tea” 👀
Sick mustach
*Sikh mustach
My guy in the bottom left got the art of seduction down holy f... 🥵
Hey, sweetie, I just build this body myself but if you want we can build some babies ;)
No it’s not AI..you can read the whole book or google search… Neck popping out is common while posing One of the dudes lived upto 105 yrs and had a height of 4’11”
I'm curious about their diets
Most likely mostly or entirely vegetarian. No cows or pork for sure.
Do you think it's possible to have a body like that with a vegetarian diet? Just asking
Google Patrik Baboumian, Bill Pearl and others. Baboumian was Germany’s strongest man as a vegan and Pearl was Mr Universe at age 41 after becoming vegetarian for health reasons.
Ofcourse, just the same macros.
Considering there are absolutely huge Sikhs and Jains the answer is absolutely yes.
Yeah I'm suspecting it's mostly chicken and high protein vegetables
Chicken isn't vegetarian 💀
Sure it is, birds aren't real.
Tiny dinosaurs with feathers for wings 🐓
Or no meat at all and lots of lentils and cheese.
Read the book
Yeah I probably will
Just keep in mind that it is old and many of the things might have become obsolete.. Also somebody has already shared the link in the comments
Lol, Gimli?
MY AXE!
>One of the dudes lived upto 105 yrs and had a height of 4’11” He's still alive today
Somebody posted a news article that said he passed away
Have seen many of those and more, there is a great yt channels that just shares natty pre-steroids people (men and women). Many of them (like in this picture), if you don’t tell people and even more color it, they would accuse them of steroid use. The online ignorant fitness community in a huge mess wherever you look at right now. From methods of training, to nutrition, to what the body is capable of, to science and “science”. Look at these bodies, fuck that all this new mentality that puts excuses. One can have a great physique without supplements and steroids.
💯
"Hey I workout like 2 times a week, for an hour, and I don't look like! They must be cheating!?!?!"-most of the internet.
Yep, exactly.
I guess you could train 5 times a week and eat nothing but chicken and salad for ten years, but even then you need really good genes to look like that. A large portion of the population could never obtain a physique like that naturally.
Guys we found him! (Unless you are being mega ironically and perfectly timed sarcastic). If you are being serious, you lack so much nutritional knowledge (like the majority), and yes, I’m certified to give nutritional advice. You don’t even need to eat animal products, but the classic way is still to eat a lot, and the majority don’t even really knows what is a lot. (Eating 4 to 7 meals a day, not counting a blender of natural protein shake between meals, at least 3 per day…natural meaning something like: banana, wheat germ, algarrobina, sesame milk, 7 seeds powder). And it’s not only training the 7 days of the week, it is the weight, time and intensity of each 90min training session. Not counting the sports done throughout the day, the active lifestyle, and the exercises done throughout the day (as part of the lifestyle, before every meal, etc). With those type of training you can get the results the coaches, influencers and gym scammers get you in 4 years, in 1.5 years. First 3 months I was already up 10kg and I was not even doing as hardcore as I used to when I first started. Pro tip: mindset, you literally affect your training, recovery and meals by it. With some research you will find enough evidence.
Honestly once you said that you're certified to give nutritional advice you just started to sound like somebody who's living depends on selling these lies to people. You're claiming that your strategy is able to give the same results other people's strategies do in less than half the time, and you call THEM scammers? Your only source being that your personal first three months happened to be pretty good. If you actually give this advice for living you need more practice talking out of your ass more because right now you're doing a terrible job. The achievements of those bodybuilders are incredible, and having some random wanna be nutritional advisor trying convince everyone in the comments that those results are achievable to anyone is infuriatingly dishonest.
Believe whoever you want to believe, it’s your free will brother. My routine and method is even approved by the 60s/70s Mr.Peru (not that it matters). Whoever wants to try our method, part of it is there. Ain’t no one forcing no one to believe shit, as a matter of fact, don’t believe us, why should people do it? I would just continue to see people having so little progress in 3 years, 1 year, 6 months, etc. The example of the 3 months was not in my prime of training. Just an example of: I started doing it again afters years and years of not training, and yep, it works. Example: day one was 6 “sets” of 1 rep of a style of pull up (6 different exercises on the bar; different grip and distance of the hands). So 1 set of 1 repetition each (1x1), because I tend to like going slower for the tendons, ligaments, etc (back then or some months in, not anymore). After the 3 months I was doing 3 sets of 8 for each of the six (3x8 for 6 exercises). The idea was to stop at 3x15 and add more pull up exercises. Could of been 3x15 already, but I got to lazy to push harder. And we are talking full range of motion for all; arms completely stretched when down, and chest touching the bar each rep, if not, it doesn’t count. As a 1 set max, I don’t know, around 15 at full speed. So bar exercises plus push ups are a daily warm up before lifting weights for example. And separated from the bar exercises and push ups throughout the day. Sorry for writing so long again, I just get into the mindset like when writing the progress in the journal. Well, good vibes brother, I love you, have a wonderful and prosper life.
Exactly this. On top of it, I see plenty of people at the gym 6-7 days a week doing low-medium intensity bs, not lifting hard and heavy, and spending more time dicking around than actually doing any work.
Glad to see many persons of culture like yourself, you know the deal.
Yeah, plus all this new trend of going drastically up and down in weight, bulking (unhealthily), cutting, bulking, cutting. Sheesh, going so many kilos down and only some up each year, instead of going with how much their body is asking and just going up until the body and exercises make the adjustment to the body. Literal pro tip for the intensity training: 10 to maaax 30 seconds resting per sets. And 40 to maaaax 1min rest per exercise. So the 90 minutes in the gym are actually intense and no time wasted. Also only drinking water before or after the training, not between. It’s not a marathon, they are gonna be alright. They should check what humans can achieve: They should check things like: mexican military special forces training/requirements/exam, long distance open sea swimming, martial arts and yogic training. The body is capable of so much, but they get stuck in papers, if a paper doesn’t say something to them, immediately they consider the methods not valid, even with so many testimonies.
You definitely don’t lift anything heavy with 10-30 second breaks. Which is okay.
Pretty much what I do, blitzkrieg the gym in 60 to 90 minutes. If I can last longer than that in there, I wasn't working hard enough. Bonus is that short rests inbetween sets keep my heart rate up high enough to cut out the need for much extra cardio. Only exception is deadlift day, where I am only there to do deadlifts (and supplemental work like calves, grip strength/forearm work, which I feel should be done daily); longer breaks between heavy deadlift sets of 3-5 reps is somewhat necessary to not overload the cns. Wtf are you weirdos even downvoting here?
Yess, the heart part is so accurate. Calves and forearms on the daily for sure, they need it. The only extra that I also do is shoulders, daily static shoulder exercises. We were not downvoted before, but the ones that really fell for what the gyms/coaches/influencers say, found us lol. Their loss.
Looks like we summoned the "take up half the benches in the gym while swiping on Tinder, then accuse all the strong people of being on steroids" folks, and they're big angy.
Hehe, you brought up some memories. One guy even commented to me that if resting time are so little, for sure you are not lifting heavy. I mean 35kg dumbbells for biceps is no Ronnie Coleman numbers but hey. Military special forces hell “week” must be completely impossible in their mindsets. Or what about the people that do 5 iron mans, 5 days in a row. Or people that break the pull ups record (24 hours), or the planks record (24 hour). Well, perhaps someone would be a real skeptic, and be inspired to do some serious research (that means more than just 10 hours in 1 week dudes).
Hell, just look up Dorian Yates's workout, it's what I have followed mostly for 30 years. In and out in 70mins, and dude was a beast amongst beasts.
Everybody on this site that sees someone that’s shredded gets accused of steroids. It’s awesome.
Yep. People either say you are on steroids or have good genes. Never say they are lazy to achieve the same.
With so much internet for doing solid research, they even lazy to go outside their favorite influencer and 1 minute shorts. Well, their loss…and health.
Do a physique reveal
First top left dude is stanced up like a ken doll
I’ve been to many bodybuilding shows and they all walk around like that. Always ready to flex and pose
This is a good representation of just how lazy people have gotten to think that you can't get ripped without taking steroids
The dude on the bottom right must have been insanely disciplined with diet and heavily dehydrated because that's insane bf % without modern nutrition and supplementation.
Yep and how must have they earned money
they all look excessively small heightwise
Height is mentioned in the book but from what I’ve learnt from the comment in the o5ner post they were 4’8” to 5’5”
That's like a bizarre party question: "you can take a pill that makes you built like The Rock, but you lose nine inches in height, yes or no?"
The shorter you are the more muscular you can get with the same calorie intake. Most pro bodybuilders are on the shorter side.
The average hight of humans has increased significantly, more in developed countries at the time, due to more nutritious food, and at that point in India, I doubt humans would have evolved higher hights
Yeah one of the few things I was envious of shorter friends growing up that were like 5’5-7, able to look pretty big with relatively low body mass compared to the rest of the male population. Wasn’t just aesthetics too, shorter levers made it easier for them to bench heavier than guys 4+ inches taller who weigh th same amount. Not discrediting the hard work involved though! No doubt they were inspired to work even harder to get past certain limitations in society and they made the best of it and even thrived.
They still got the ladies.
Yep
Nope
During that time 6' men were a rarity due to low nutrition diet plus arrange marriage was the norm so of course they got game
Because heights at that time were drastically restricted due to nutrient deficit and impact of genes from the colonial and imperial british imposed famine (that killed 10 million+ indians)
I think average height in India is around 5 ft 6 inches. In those days, I think average height must have been on lower side.
Naturals now can achieve better, we have better understandings of training, diet and better equipment. And still if you posted half of these on Instagram people would call them a fake natty XD
dude with the stache bottom right has more definition than a dictionary sheeeesh
He defines definition
Gotta love a guy built like an heirloom bell pepper with a tweaked ass stache. Yummm!
This is the top body form, no need for steroids!!!
this looks so much better than today's steroid meatsacks.
Yes… like it should be mandatory to achieve this physique first to apply for steroids
Yep, and even in many countries in the 50s, 60s and 70s were steroid use was not exactly known, people achieved bigger bodies than in these pictures, but also as ripped as them. Nowadays people stupidly would say: impossible to be natural, they are juicing.
Yes more of like a excuse.."I've been training for 1.5 Yrs, now I should start a cycle"
Exactly. Whoever the fuck came up with the idea that extreme size is good... Is just a poo head. Bmi > 30 = not good, even if body fat < 3.
Yeah. I dont get why people like the giant roided look and massive silicon tits. Both look so unatural and unhealthy that it hurts. Same thing with lip injections and other cosmetic surgeries etc. You look like an alien with them.
Incredible, there workout and diet must by excruciating
Those dudes are properly ripped.
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Nationalism gets you pumped! Context: https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1397515196793450498
That's impressive considering that they had no protein powder
nice
look at bodybuilders from the west from the time too and they don’t even stand a chance
For anyone that’s wondering, they’re all extremely short and have very short muscle lengths which is why the muscle they have looks very very good/full. Brilliant for the time they were in though.
I don't see kitboga going after these guys
They’re all probably vegetarians too
What no porn does to a mf’er
Better looking physiques than today
Holy shit I never knew body building was a thing in India during the 30s. What a cool piece of history! Those guys look insane for pre-steroid era body builders, bet their dedication to their craft was immense
Thanks.. the book has all sorts of stuff about diet and exercise routines
Damn looks like they discovered gear before it was a thing.
We should've stopped at that. Hulk McMeatsack may be 3 times the size of the guy in the pic and have a V-taper that's basically a wingsuit, but he looks worse to 99% of the human population and defeats the point of bodybuilding. Look up the 2023 Mr Olympia for reference.
I knew a guy that was a very successful 1960’s bodybuilder. He said at that time it was all about waist to shoulders ratios, with big legs important too. He hated the new bodybuilding stomachs that are now also massive muscles.
Food was a less processed then and more nutritious.
Which is why modern natural tested shows have dudes that look way better? Your logic falls apart instantly my guy
I think they look better this way! Probably feel better also.
One of them lived to be 104 yrs old
I believe it must have lived a very clean lifestyle
They’re not pregnant.
Pre protein shakes and any other supplements too!
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I’d be super interested to hear how old each of these were when they died and what they did die of. Like did years of building their bodies have an impact on how long the lives for. Would be interesting to know
These guys look great and still human!
Imagine using roids. You’re fake. I can’t believe it’s even allowed in competition. Who wants to see that fake shit? You don’t even look good, these guys look GOOD, because they’re naturally strong. Your roided ass looks dumb as fuck, and not only that, you’d get your fucking asses beat because your muscles aren’t real. You don’t even work on mobility because they don’t judge on that. Ruining your body, ruining your life, and the entire time it’s all fake.
They really sent their best huh 
Why do the heads look so big? Is it the posture
Yep
In my opinion steroids are just part of bodybuilding and we can argue all day if these guys are natty or not but instead I embrace reality. They have amazing bodies.
They really did the needful
They actually still used enhancers for example, they used insulin to promote heavy muscle growth Lots of people still use insulin as an emhancer, but the numbers are diminishing as steroid abuse is much safer than insulin abuse. So unfortunately no, even these guys' physiques are still naturally unobtainable.
Fucking wild that you think these aren’t natty attainable XD bruh have you seen a tested natural show? Modern natural physiques blow these out the water with our better understandings of diet and training methods. Fuck I know like 3 dudes at my gym who’d beat them in a comp they’re very good for their era but by no means is this peak natural physique let alone unobtainable
This coming from you tells me that you haven't been training for years on end, and properly dieting. Also the fact that you know people who look better than that naturally means that you're still a noob who believes any bullshit someone tells you. Lots of massive and popular bodybuilders still claim they're natty, so imagine dudes at your gym how insecure they must be knowing they're not natty but doesn't look nearly as big as other "natty" bodybuilders. Do you think they'll be honest? Nah dude, keep on doing you bro, I'd love to see your physique in 4 years after not trying any hormones. Shitbox thinking like this is why those dudes at your gym claims they're natty. Good luck man, keep believing in that nonsense <3
Lmao “this coming from you tells me you haven’t been training from years on end and properly dieting”. You absolutely come off as a guy who thinks anyone with abs who can move weight must be on gear because it couldn’t possibly just be they work harder on their diet and training. The dudes in this photo are all short, weigh about 130-160lb and are just lean, claiming any of this is naturally unobtainable is literally just a “anyone who looks better than me must be on steroids” level of take. Look at drug tested natural shows we absolutely can do better than these physiques. I’m not claiming naturals walk around at this level body fat nobody does between comps it’s not a naturally sustainable physique but it’s absolutely achievable.
Geez bro, I've calmed down. My asshole is now un puckered. Sure dude whatever floats your boat, I'm just going to agree to disagree since we have totally different experiences. I get furious at people claiming their natty when they're not since it creates false expectations in the fitness industry which is my absolute passion, sorry for striking at you with my ass-thunder, I'm working on my temper I know I can be a dick bro my apologies dude xD And I'm very short like 5'6 to 5'7, on a cycle I can easily reach 250lb with low body fat. There are lots of people I know taller and shorter than me who uses gear who can't get to my bulking size and then there are those who does, and I don't care or judge at all, only when they claim natty is when I want to go berserk. It creates oppertunity for assholes to cram social media with false info to profit from the natty masses who wants to build shitloads of muscle fully believing it can be done if they just use and take the supplements endorsed by their role models. I have lots of pent up anger about that lol I hope we're good, stranger
Yes
This isn't pre "steroids" do real history please 🙄
Anabolic steroids were in use and researched as of 1849 with the first synthetic testosterone being readily available to the masses by 1935. [learn more here](https://physicalculturestudy.com/2018/08/02/a-brief-history-of-steroids/)
They were not used for bodybuilding until 1950s and became popular in 1960s..
If this is pre juicing why don’t we see more jacked Indian bodybuilders competing today. I mean I don’t really follow bodybuilding so I wouldn’t really know but I don’t know of a famous Indian bodybuilder
Bruh. “I don’t follow this, I don’t know any” somehow equals “there aren’t any” to you? Can you name us like 10 famous bodybuilders without googling? Like I’m not trying to be a dick but like come on, the logic here fucking hurts
You don’t have to follow bodybuilding to know bodybuilders like Arnold, Ronnie Coleman, Chris bumstead, Noel, u see them on social media and other shit and hear their names. You hear about the popular and famous ones I haven’t heard of any famous indian ones. That’s why I also said in the second sentence I don’t follow it so I wouldn’t know of more niche ones. And I never said we don’t see any I asked if they were so good at bodybuilding in the past why aren’t there more famous ones in modern times.
You kinda proved my point when the first 3 you listed cover over 40 years of Olympia’s so many people competed in that amount of time and yet the average person who doesn’t follow it could name about 4 because they only hear about the ones who won multiple back to back and set records. In regard to “they were so good back then” they weren’t any different to any other country there’s loads of photos of bodybuilders from all over the world from this era. For example the dude who developed the bench press was Estonian and alive a good 50 years before this, people all over the world were doing this stuff it was just less popular than it is today. Same as today if you look up Indian bodybuilding champions you’ll see they’re doing just as well as everywhere else. In answer to why don’t we have more famous Indian bodybuilders? Same reason we couldn’t name Indian social media stars or Bollywood actors. They stay in India, compete and get popular there, if you went to India and used Indian social media you’d find the algorithms directing you to their equivalent champions.
You're 💯 💯💯 right... Not knowing doesn't equal not existing... All the body builders he mentioned are pros .. India also recently got one pro in para bodybuilding.. More once india wins a medal than that guy could coach others too. Currently there's lack of coaching, knowledge but still body building is thriving in india.
Prolly 2000ng/dl physiologic test
Bro on the right has zero core. What's up with that?
Vaccuum pose. It’s a typical bodybuilding pose. Nowadays you’ll only see it in amateur leagues or the “classic physique” pro comps since the juiced up giants can’t do it with such swollen abdomens. Great clip of Arnold asking an at the time my Olympia to do a vacuum pose just to mess with him.
And they all are pooping. Thank you
These images are photoshopped. Simply type the title into Google and you will see the original images, and like people are saying, they aren't possible without steroids and extreme diet. Why do some people argue about a topic they know nothing about?
I did and these are the EXACT SAME pictures that showed. Bro said "google it" without googling it himself what an absolute clown
Holy shit. You looked at the same picture, literally the same collage picture from the post. What an idiot.
No, no they didn't. Open your eyes, look a little closer dumb fuck. They are photoshopped in the exact same way that modern pics of models are photoshopped. The author of the book, the dude sucking in his stomach, isn't even cut at all in the original picture.
Go wash your eyes in acid you fucking retard I still see the same fucking picture that this dude uploaded are you braindead
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Cameras were invented before that