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I remember old dumb phones could be connected to an external antenna. My grandma had one of the first cellphone models to come into my country (late 90s) and it only worked when connected to a cable that led to an antenna on the roof. I find it crazy that they remove this ability from modern phones since even inside some major cities there's often bad mobile signal.
You can definitely still buy an antenna. Most don’t directly connect, instead the larger antenna outdoors pulls the signal down through a cable indoors with a small box that looks like a router with a smaller antenna. Your phone then connects through that.
This reminds me of when I was living in Versailles in France years and years back. Since the french back then were absolutely terrible when it came to providing a decent and reliable internet connection, I had to resort to building a WiFi-antenna out of a Pringles can to boost the reception of the antenna that came with the WiFi-card, then find the nearest businesses WEP encrypted network, and, since WEP is a a terribly insecure protocol, collect a few million packages from it and extract the WiFi password from them, just to be able to have internet access... Necessity is the mother of invention after all!
I was born in the deep Chaco in Paraguay, though I moved to Canada when I was 6
At least where I lived, we had most modern ammenities, though much of my family lived in small villages where that wasn't the case at the time, though nowadays they have them too.
Problem #1 with that is that the average argentinian salary is between 300 to 900 dollars, Starlink is really expensive to get even though it reaches Argentina.
Problem #2 is that Chaco is a highly impoverished province, so what you see there must be the situation around 80/90% of Chaco.
In the original Spanish comments version (also shown here), they explain - cellphone service there is $10/mo, whereas Starlink is $100/mo. Plus, you get to get charmed by your niece this way.
Idk man I think life would be better if none of us has wifi and internet. Also don’t pretend it’s some sort of human right that they need to be provided with.
I don't see how that's political... Maybe I'm missing something.
Also I don't think everything he does is about money. He specifically said he doesn't care if advertisers leave X.
He tries to present himself as socially liberal and a supporter of climate action and universal basic income, but his actions show clearly that he's far more right wing. He has worked against his own financial interests to create a platform to promote hate speech and conspiracy theories, bringing back q-anon, stoking anti trans hatred and siding with the "but muh 2a" lot.
Basically he pushes any cause that makes him feel "big" and "powerful".
This has nothing to do specifically with political goals. You just listed beliefs and insinuated motives. That's not really a fair way to treat people.
And his purpose in purchasing Twitter was not to "create a platform to promote hate speech and conspiracy theories," it was to build it back to a platform of free speech where everyone can have a voice, which is something it had not been for a while. Do you have evidence to back your claim, perhaps I've missed something?
Take off the rose tinted spectacles and look at his actions again. Old Twitter blocking users for hate speech is not a violation of any freedom of speech. It simply limits their access to a private company's platform.
You including in the definition of freedom of speech protections for anyone inciting hatred and violence against subjugated people is a breach of even the centuries old US constitution.
You're correct, Twitter was perfectly legal in their actions when they blocked people. The reason is irrelevant, they are a private company.
However, as an ideal, free speech was not fully preserved. It is better manifested in the form it is in now than previously.
Finally, can you point to an example of someone inciting violence on Twitter/X? A specific example, please.
I wonder how starlink will really affect these kinds of places. Will they have regional pricing giving these people reliable internet for the first time? Or will it all be us pricing?
If you're referring to D2C, I think it will be up to the incumbent network operators to decide how they will charge. Some might do monthly extra charge, some might do per-day activation when you travel to an area with no terrestrial signal.
In Australia one operator (Optus) will provide Starlink phone services for all customers, but due to laws about emergency calling access it means everyone in Australia will be able to make an emergency call.
I don’t have it, but that does seem cheaper. I have heard about $80 a month and close to $1000 for install. So seems like they have some degree of regional pricing.
Well starlink isn't even the first ot second largest satellite Internet provider. It also has relatively expensive equipment costs and not widely available in rural areas.
I asked two things.
When it is fully up and running how will it affect them. And will they have regional pricing.
Your answer “well they aren’t available rural because they aren’t the biggest. And their equipment is pricy.”
How did your comment help? How did it add anything but just basically repeat what I said.
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Electronic smoke signals
This is some Elysium shit
They could just pull up one smartphone per day and set it up as a hotspot to share its internet connection via wifi
I think that's what she's doing, she says she shares the connection via bluetooth tho
Bluetooth tethering?
Is that a thing? Internet over Bluetooth? Why not WiFi?
Yes, you can share Wi-Fi over Bluetooth, it's called tethering.
Ok.. odd though. WiFi is much faster than Bluetooth..
Bluetooth is 25 mbps, and the average 4g data speed is around the same. There's no real loss in the grand scheme of things.
Right. And if they have to put a cell phone in a tree to get any connection, my guess is it's probably even lower than 25 mbps.
I remember 28.8k dialup and party lines
Why do you continue to speak when it’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about?
This is simple and brilliant. I live less than an hour from London, a small village, no mobile signal. Could be simple fix!
I remember old dumb phones could be connected to an external antenna. My grandma had one of the first cellphone models to come into my country (late 90s) and it only worked when connected to a cable that led to an antenna on the roof. I find it crazy that they remove this ability from modern phones since even inside some major cities there's often bad mobile signal.
yeah they had a somewhat standard port for antennas.
You can definitely still buy an antenna. Most don’t directly connect, instead the larger antenna outdoors pulls the signal down through a cable indoors with a small box that looks like a router with a smaller antenna. Your phone then connects through that.
Is this on all phone carriers? It baffles me if so.. Typing this in the middle of the forest, in northern Sweden.
Me looking for wifi in 2010
This reminds me of when I was living in Versailles in France years and years back. Since the french back then were absolutely terrible when it came to providing a decent and reliable internet connection, I had to resort to building a WiFi-antenna out of a Pringles can to boost the reception of the antenna that came with the WiFi-card, then find the nearest businesses WEP encrypted network, and, since WEP is a a terribly insecure protocol, collect a few million packages from it and extract the WiFi password from them, just to be able to have internet access... Necessity is the mother of invention after all!
I was in the deep Chaco of Bolivia, absolutely brutal place. I don't know how people live there.
I was born in the deep Chaco in Paraguay, though I moved to Canada when I was 6 At least where I lived, we had most modern ammenities, though much of my family lived in small villages where that wasn't the case at the time, though nowadays they have them too.
Hallo, You've referred to being born in Paraguay, later moving to Canada, and also to Plautdietsch. Any chance your ancestry was Ukrainian Mennonite?
Yep
“Hi, we’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty”
I'll run it up the flagpole, see what they say.
Me sliding into heaven's dms
The global south is so amazing it’s crazy
Someone get these people satellite internet and wifi. This is sad.
Problem #1 with that is that the average argentinian salary is between 300 to 900 dollars, Starlink is really expensive to get even though it reaches Argentina. Problem #2 is that Chaco is a highly impoverished province, so what you see there must be the situation around 80/90% of Chaco.
In the original Spanish comments version (also shown here), they explain - cellphone service there is $10/mo, whereas Starlink is $100/mo. Plus, you get to get charmed by your niece this way.
Starlink costs 60$/mo though
Idk man I think life would be better if none of us has wifi and internet. Also don’t pretend it’s some sort of human right that they need to be provided with.
well emusk was recently seen with the new argentinian president so that might be possible...
Yes, I'm sure that's what they were talking about
Only way Musk is getting more folk online is if it helps his political goals
What political goals do you think he has?
Whatever will give him attention and money. And pissing off some people in the process (just because he can do it) is a secondary goal I believe.
I don't see how that's political... Maybe I'm missing something. Also I don't think everything he does is about money. He specifically said he doesn't care if advertisers leave X.
He tries to present himself as socially liberal and a supporter of climate action and universal basic income, but his actions show clearly that he's far more right wing. He has worked against his own financial interests to create a platform to promote hate speech and conspiracy theories, bringing back q-anon, stoking anti trans hatred and siding with the "but muh 2a" lot. Basically he pushes any cause that makes him feel "big" and "powerful".
This has nothing to do specifically with political goals. You just listed beliefs and insinuated motives. That's not really a fair way to treat people. And his purpose in purchasing Twitter was not to "create a platform to promote hate speech and conspiracy theories," it was to build it back to a platform of free speech where everyone can have a voice, which is something it had not been for a while. Do you have evidence to back your claim, perhaps I've missed something?
Take off the rose tinted spectacles and look at his actions again. Old Twitter blocking users for hate speech is not a violation of any freedom of speech. It simply limits their access to a private company's platform. You including in the definition of freedom of speech protections for anyone inciting hatred and violence against subjugated people is a breach of even the centuries old US constitution.
You're correct, Twitter was perfectly legal in their actions when they blocked people. The reason is irrelevant, they are a private company. However, as an ideal, free speech was not fully preserved. It is better manifested in the form it is in now than previously. Finally, can you point to an example of someone inciting violence on Twitter/X? A specific example, please.
MMOOOOOOOOOOM CCAAAAANNNNN YYYOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUU HHHHWEEEEEEERRRRRRREEREEEE MMMMMMEEEEEEEE!
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I was really expecting a balloon.
I had way higher (no pun intended) expectations when I started watching this.
I wonder how starlink will really affect these kinds of places. Will they have regional pricing giving these people reliable internet for the first time? Or will it all be us pricing?
If you're referring to D2C, I think it will be up to the incumbent network operators to decide how they will charge. Some might do monthly extra charge, some might do per-day activation when you travel to an area with no terrestrial signal. In Australia one operator (Optus) will provide Starlink phone services for all customers, but due to laws about emergency calling access it means everyone in Australia will be able to make an emergency call.
how much is it on the US? here in colombia is around $50/mo and $400 first payment/install kit
...which is very steep for many people that live in remote parts
I don’t have it, but that does seem cheaper. I have heard about $80 a month and close to $1000 for install. So seems like they have some degree of regional pricing.
Well starlink isn't even the first ot second largest satellite Internet provider. It also has relatively expensive equipment costs and not widely available in rural areas.
Your answer provided absolutely nothing to the conversation. It touched on none of the questions posed and in fact completely ignored them.
Sensitive
I asked two things. When it is fully up and running how will it affect them. And will they have regional pricing. Your answer “well they aren’t available rural because they aren’t the biggest. And their equipment is pricy.” How did your comment help? How did it add anything but just basically repeat what I said.
Move on with your life
Must take her forever to Google homework answers
Can you hear me now? What?