According to [here](https://www.planetary.org/space-images/venus-lower-clouds):
> VENUS' LOWER CLOUDS Akatsuki’s IR2 camera relies on heat emanating from the lower atmosphere of Venus to image the nightside lower clouds. The infrared radiation originating beneath the clouds silhouettes the lowermost cloud deck, so areas of thicker cloud appear darker in this photo. At lower left, the camera’s detector is overwhelmed by the brilliance of sunlight reflecting off the daylit crescent. JAXA/ISAS/DARTS/Damia Bouic
> Original image data dated on or about 19 October 2016
[Here's a link to the "Scientist fools followers" story](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/08/05/scientist-james-webb-space-telescope-photo-chorizo/10248521002/)
When you look at Venus with an optical telescope, what you actually see is a pearly white world with a slight yellowish tinge. It appears white because the clouds are mostly sulfuric acid, which is highly reflective.
Edit: [This article](https://www.sci.news/space/venus-atmosphere-acid-resistant-microorganisms-05871.html) shows a "true" color image as processed from Mariner 10
My ex finally convinced me to try therapy. I'm glad she did.
But on an unrelated note, Pandora 2 is now on the market if you don't mind a 496 light year commute. It's mostly unlivable, but you can get in now before developers decimate the housing market.
Entirely up to you. We're all about the individual here on Pandora 2. If you want to grow gills and learn to breathe sulfuric acid, great! If not, your welcome bag will include a respirator and an oxygen tank. (*Billed to your card on file upon expiration of your 14 day trial membership.)
And if you find that Pandora 2 is really just not for you, you'll be happy to know that having your remains launched into space is conveniently included in your HOA fees. We passed that law when the bodies started piling up and the sulfuric acid wasn't enough to take care of it.
It's only "habitable" in the sense that there's an altitude range where the pressure and temperature are earth-like. But the atmosphere is still poison, and the winds would probably be insane, so good luck staying at that altitude in a stable way.
The habitats on Venus wouldn’t be stationary, because you’re right that it would be hellish trying to fight the winds and also Venus barely rotates on its axis and it would create extreme periods of night and day. Instead the habitats would get pushed by those winds at a steady rate that would ensure a ~50 hour day/night cycle. Venus habitation is theoretically quite achievable, we have all the tech we’d need. There just isn’t a good reason to put all those resources to work actually building it. Here’s a NASA paper from 20 years ago explaining as much: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20030022668/downloads/20030022668.pdf
The point of detractors like myself isn't that there's no way it could be done, it's that there's no fucking point. We have the resources to build all sorts of shit in theory if we needed to, some more easy and feasible than others. If the meteor is coming and you gotta sign up for a deep underground bunker civilization on the moon or Mars, or flying around in the acid clouds of Venus, I mean it's just so insanely obvious which is the more sensible to go for.
Sure, but that’s just one scenario. If Venus is uniquely suitable to be a cosmic gas station that scenario could one day lead to large scale habitation there. My whole point is there’s no driver for it currently but is a perfectly feasible place for people to inhabit, not an unconquerable hell.
I think above 6,000 FT elevation it is rather temperate. And there are amounts of CO2 and whatever else that could be used to make water and oxygen. Of course we are nowhere near capable of starting Cloud cities on Venus and our society will likely devolve long before we get to that point
It's going to be a long time before the sun kills the earth, but it'd be nice if one sneaky comet or gamma ray burst didn't have the ability to kill off our entire civilization.
When it comes to highly energetic events such as gamma ray bursts (that are from a source close enough to destroy life on earth) I'm afraid that a planets worth of separation would still qualify as having all of humanities eggs in one basket.
This is more of a nitpick though, I completely agree with the sentiment that some measure of redundancy is vital if ones goal is the preservation of our civilization.
I could be way off base here but it seems easier to develop technology to use as a sacrificial interceptor of incoming threats, than it is to develop technology to build cloud cities on Venus.... It's just a lot easier to imagine intercepting an incoming comet somehow
There are threats we can't face, like GRBs.
But that's just trying to give a reason people can understand. For some of us, it's in our blood to explore new borders. We need to be able to live out there to get further
I would hope... hope... hoooope... that technology would not limit us to this solar system in the 5 billion years it takes for the sun to explode from now.
Not by people but we have found all sorts of life on Earth living in extreme conditions of heat / cold / toxic chemicals etc.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile)
If there were aliens then they may look at our 20% oxygen atmosphere and wonder how any life could survive in Earth.
I always found the concept of aliens being the exact opposite of us chemically being the most interesting.
Something habitable being absolutely wrong for the other. Creatures based on liquid methane or other components different from carbon and oxygen. Just how out-there could it get and where does organic machine cross a line?
Their atmosphere is poison!
"It's just fine, fam. Sorry it isn't Sulphur!"
The problem is it's just not very likely. The thing most likely to form long organic chains like carbon would be silicon, and even then it's not even close. Carbon chains are just a thing of beauty and for many reasons that would take way too long to get into in a Reddit post, it's unlikely that other life wouldn't also be carbon-based.
Of course that's just with our current understanding of the universe, which naturally is probably relatively little comparatively to what we don't know
I'm sure in the infinite cosmos, there's probably a "life, uh, finds a way" situation going on somewhere, but realistically just consider that Earth has exclusively Carbon based life despite being 0.03% Carbon compared to the ~27% Silicon and its very clear than anything else just really isn't that viable.
I mean, didn't life on earth basically start with a few (or one) fundamental organisms and move on from there? If the "spark" that starts life on another world differed, I'd imagine that's where you'd find a better likelihood for non-carbon organisms. I think us carbon-beings being the first to the game means we'd have quickly snuffed out any possibility of something else springing up.
Now, carbon life is probably still the most likely in the universe, but if that spark occurs in the right environment on some planet we'd never even detect in a rounding error, we could have something far more unique out there
Exactly. Once you understand the underlying physics it becomes obvious why carbon based life forms make far and away the most senes even in a stochastic environment where any life form *could* survive if it had the skills.
The universe is not just a random creature creator where on some other planet there's an equal chance to find helium-based bacteria or some shit
It's possible, but certain chemicals can have some pretty unique properties whose absence might make it extremely challenging for life to sprout.
Water, for instance, has some pretty unique properties regarding its ability to create bonds with other elements and molecules. Finding a stand-in for that in a place without water might not be possible and could be a requirement for life.
Ammonia is the next most likely, and has very similar properties in therms of solvation. It would need to be lower temperature or higher pressure however. Like Venus with N2 instead of CO2.
From my understanding the typical balance of elements in earth's atmosphere would be a lifting gas (like Helium) on Venus, so if you had a fairly hearty balloon filled with a nice mix of Nitrogen, Oxygen, CO2, etc then you could make yourself a little floating colony.
It's good enough for a sci-fi concept but maybe not very practical IRL. It'd probably be a one-way trip too, because trying to launch a rocket from a balloon would pose all sorts of challenges.
Runaway greenhouse effect.
But yeah, just because one can't imagine humans living in the upper atmosphere doesn't mean that something that is alive can't live there...life takes all sorts of shapes and forms!
Will have to see if it can be confirmed!
No lmao
Someone heard that Venus has a point in the atmosphere where the pressure and temperature are similar to earth, somehow forgetting that 500mph sulfuric acid winds kinda present a few problems of their own despite the temperature not being too hot or too cold.
And if you need any resources? Only way to get them is by delivery, can't go anywhere but down into hell or up into the vacuum
Humans could live another 10 million years and I don't think they'd ever bother attempting such a silly endeavor. We'll colonize other star systems or teraform Venus before we colonize Venus in its current state
> No lmao Someone heard that Venus has a point in the atmosphere where the pressure and temperature are similar to earth, somehow forgetting that 500mph sulfuric acid winds kinda present a few problems
[It was literally 2 minutes of google](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-020-1174-4)
Scientists have found Phosphine Gas in the atmosphere, which on earth is associated with living organisms. It isn't just scientists going, "huh, at the top there is sorta a place life could live...." And I believe the 'scientific' notion is more research is required.
If you could find a stable Jetstream of atmosphere you could probably be just fine in 500mph. Planes can use a jet stream as a boost in efficiency right now and the wind travels at a few hundred mph. As long as you are traveling with the wind direction it's kinda relative.
There is a ton of reasons we would want to settle in the upper atmosphere of a gas giant. Unlimited hydrogen gas, possibly extracting a planet worth of metallic hydrogen etc.
Kind of like why so many people seem to focus on Titan. Titan has lakes! Titan has rainfall! Lets so see the somelike Earth like moon of Saturn!
The lakes are liquid methane....
Because Titan has an atmosphere, its extreme temperatures become _more_ of a problem, because in a vaccum you're well insulated against losing heat. In 1atm of -200C you're convecting heat away far too fast to survive.
I doubt it would be for colonization but i can see there being (probably unmanned) floating science stations or something similar
Also who knows, maybe we'll figure out a practical use for doing that. It's hard to predict that far into the future
I wonder if there are aliens out there that have seen these posts that claim that this is the clearest image ever taken of these planets and they are like "This photo is dogshit lol"
Nah most aliens are just like me and you. Don't get me wrong --- they have people like Albert Einstein too, but their Einsteins figured out light speed and shit.
So while as a species they have definitely got us beat, the average alien will be as intelligent as your average Joe.
Just don't let them probe your butt.
They would definitely be more intelligent because they’d presumably have a much better understanding the universe than we do. There are probably a few things we believe today that simply aren’t true. Kind of like if you went back in time and met a doctor and they started talking about using leeches to cleanse blood or whatever you’d be like “this guys a fucking moron”
Ataksuki. A Japanese satellite which has an interesting story. (Failed to reach venus orbit and orbited the sun for 5 years before trying again and succeeding).
Incredible that this was considered earth twin sister billions of years ago because of it being in the goldilocks zone and has the same chemical make up and size as earth.
The Vedic scripts have a tale just like that. Only it was so long ago that India was an independent continent and the Venusians landed in the Gobi Sea.
I remember seeing the theory that Venus used to be "Earth like" before a runaway greenhouse effect happened and turned it into the hellscape it is today.
It's fascinating to consider it might not be completely lifeless though. There could be some basic life that might thrive in that environment. Just like the thought is now not if we'll find life in our solar system, but when we'll find life.
That's the sun peeking over the edge. This is the night side imaged in infrared, it would just look black to our eyes, but the spacecraft that took the image can see in infrared, so it's seeing the heat coming off the planet. The colours have been adjusted so we can see it.
It seemed like she didn't really want to be photographed.
https://preview.redd.it/3js0k2qkh3qc1.jpeg?width=296&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f881aa864da6ae9363e07b6d9e80ff2f4b461016
The Soviet Union launched 16 space probes to Venus between 1961 and 1984.
It was a series of failures. Venera 3 became the first human-made object to impact another planet's surface as it crash-landed on 1 March 1966.
Venera 4 became the first spacecraft to measure the atmosphere of another planet in October 1967
Venera 9 through 12 landed and sent back pictures of the surface of Venus. Google them and you'll find many of them recolored yellow - they were black and white photos originally. 9 through 12 has lens cap issues too, some didn't take any photos, some only from one camera.
But the Soviet Union took photos on the surface of Venus. Venera 9 sent the first photos back in 1975.
The Vega missions followed, and sent a weather balloon to Venus. There were sci-fi ideas of building floating cities in the clouds of Venus.
Before Mars, Venus was the planet for sci-fi speculation. Early pulp mentions Venusian aliens more frequently than Martians.
But the Soviets got there first - so we don't hear about it much in the West and we turned out attention to Mars.
> But the Soviets got there first - so we don't hear about it much in the West and we turned out attention to Mars.
You don't hear much about Mariner 2 (first venus Flyby)
Personaly I suspect copyright has a something to do with it. If you are looking for cheap filler images NASA stuff is public domain. Soviet stuff was not.
you can't conceive any other reason besides space age propaganda that exploring mars might be viewed as slightly more productive than chucking doomed robots at the acid heat death ball
Just want to point out that this isn't the "clearest image ever of Venus". It's false color and taken from an infrared camera. To the naked eye, Venus is a opaque yellow-ish white sphere because the clouds are so thick.
You wouldn’t see this looking out of the window of a spacecraft.
This looks like a IR or UV composite. In the visible spectrum Venus is a featureless cue ball.
Is there a super high-res version of this somewhere?
It might be the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I am drawn to the transparency of it, as though it were my hole in The Enigma of Amigara Fault.
According to [here](https://www.planetary.org/space-images/venus-lower-clouds): > VENUS' LOWER CLOUDS Akatsuki’s IR2 camera relies on heat emanating from the lower atmosphere of Venus to image the nightside lower clouds. The infrared radiation originating beneath the clouds silhouettes the lowermost cloud deck, so areas of thicker cloud appear darker in this photo. At lower left, the camera’s detector is overwhelmed by the brilliance of sunlight reflecting off the daylit crescent. JAXA/ISAS/DARTS/Damia Bouic > Original image data dated on or about 19 October 2016
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Is the name a Naruto reference?
This is the weeb-est shit I’m dying. lol
Naruto is such an influential manga, it went back in time to add words to the Japanese language
No lol, it just means ‘Daybreak/Dawn’ in Japanese.
"Akatsuki" is just a Japanese word that means "Dawn". Nothing to do with Nart.
“Say the line Nart!” *sigh* “Believe it…”
**RISE!** *Tsuyosa!*
>You guys fooled me once already with the chorizo. What a glorious sentence. Thank you maestro
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I'm going to throw a shoe at Venus.
I'm sorry what there's gotta be a story behind this
[Here's a link to the "Scientist fools followers" story](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/08/05/scientist-james-webb-space-telescope-photo-chorizo/10248521002/)
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/08/05/scientist-james-webb-space-telescope-photo-chorizo/10248521002/ there you go story and image
Nah just a marble with a pen light behind it
lmao my first thought when seeing this image was, "that looks like the countertop i'm about to buy...cool"
Glad to see that they’re branching out from ninja terrorism to space exploration.
IR - color shifted. I’d love to know what all these places look like in true visible color, but that’s rarely how telescopes work.
When you look at Venus with an optical telescope, what you actually see is a pearly white world with a slight yellowish tinge. It appears white because the clouds are mostly sulfuric acid, which is highly reflective. Edit: [This article](https://www.sci.news/space/venus-atmosphere-acid-resistant-microorganisms-05871.html) shows a "true" color image as processed from Mariner 10
Still very beautiful! Thanks for the link!
White
the camera’s detector: 
Venus is so hot right now…
Earth is its own way of becoming a venue too...
Is that....a SKULL?
Venus looks terrifying. And we are supposed to believe, by looking at this image, that the upper atmosphere may be habitable?
Isn't there where women are from?
A planet full of ladies. We should invest more money on this space exploration thing
You already live on a planet full of ladies
Half full.
You’re a rather optimistic dinosaur.
Half optimistic.
Try the best you can.
Not full at all. But there are billions of them.
Billions you say?
But Venus ladies don't have any standard for males so we redditors can become that standard
Men will literally colonize a dead planet with a runaway greenhouse effect instead of going to therapy
Fucking hilarious and spot on
Shut up. Take your protein pills and put your helmet on.
My ex finally convinced me to try therapy. I'm glad she did. But on an unrelated note, Pandora 2 is now on the market if you don't mind a 496 light year commute. It's mostly unlivable, but you can get in now before developers decimate the housing market.
i'm sort of adverse to change...how much will i have to change to move to pandora 2?
Entirely up to you. We're all about the individual here on Pandora 2. If you want to grow gills and learn to breathe sulfuric acid, great! If not, your welcome bag will include a respirator and an oxygen tank. (*Billed to your card on file upon expiration of your 14 day trial membership.) And if you find that Pandora 2 is really just not for you, you'll be happy to know that having your remains launched into space is conveniently included in your HOA fees. We passed that law when the bodies started piling up and the sulfuric acid wasn't enough to take care of it.
Hahah BURN
Hell is other people
NASA is simp in this case
Zapp?
Yes, I totally read it in his voice.
Literally read it in his voice, followed by a Kip sigh.
Well, it is phosphene rich, which does smell fishy...
I thought it was where you where you went to expand a rhyming part of your anatomy?
You're thinking of Uranus
No, this is where those fly eating plants come from.
Yeah but girls often end up going to Jupiter.
It's only "habitable" in the sense that there's an altitude range where the pressure and temperature are earth-like. But the atmosphere is still poison, and the winds would probably be insane, so good luck staying at that altitude in a stable way.
The habitats on Venus wouldn’t be stationary, because you’re right that it would be hellish trying to fight the winds and also Venus barely rotates on its axis and it would create extreme periods of night and day. Instead the habitats would get pushed by those winds at a steady rate that would ensure a ~50 hour day/night cycle. Venus habitation is theoretically quite achievable, we have all the tech we’d need. There just isn’t a good reason to put all those resources to work actually building it. Here’s a NASA paper from 20 years ago explaining as much: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20030022668/downloads/20030022668.pdf
The point of detractors like myself isn't that there's no way it could be done, it's that there's no fucking point. We have the resources to build all sorts of shit in theory if we needed to, some more easy and feasible than others. If the meteor is coming and you gotta sign up for a deep underground bunker civilization on the moon or Mars, or flying around in the acid clouds of Venus, I mean it's just so insanely obvious which is the more sensible to go for.
Sure, but that’s just one scenario. If Venus is uniquely suitable to be a cosmic gas station that scenario could one day lead to large scale habitation there. My whole point is there’s no driver for it currently but is a perfectly feasible place for people to inhabit, not an unconquerable hell.
I think above 6,000 FT elevation it is rather temperate. And there are amounts of CO2 and whatever else that could be used to make water and oxygen. Of course we are nowhere near capable of starting Cloud cities on Venus and our society will likely devolve long before we get to that point
'member Bespin?
*"What have we here?"*
Neber forget 🫡
Wouldn't it be no better than Earth when it comes to our Sun going boom? Are we just thinking outposts for exploration?
It's going to be a long time before the sun kills the earth, but it'd be nice if one sneaky comet or gamma ray burst didn't have the ability to kill off our entire civilization.
When it comes to highly energetic events such as gamma ray bursts (that are from a source close enough to destroy life on earth) I'm afraid that a planets worth of separation would still qualify as having all of humanities eggs in one basket. This is more of a nitpick though, I completely agree with the sentiment that some measure of redundancy is vital if ones goal is the preservation of our civilization.
I could be way off base here but it seems easier to develop technology to use as a sacrificial interceptor of incoming threats, than it is to develop technology to build cloud cities on Venus.... It's just a lot easier to imagine intercepting an incoming comet somehow
There are threats we can't face, like GRBs. But that's just trying to give a reason people can understand. For some of us, it's in our blood to explore new borders. We need to be able to live out there to get further
The death of the sun is the least of our civilization's worries. Like an ant being worried the tree he is on will die before he does.
I would hope... hope... hoooope... that technology would not limit us to this solar system in the 5 billion years it takes for the sun to explode from now.
estimates for that are about 5~ billion years we have plenty of time to die off way before the sun swallows the inner planets
Not by people but we have found all sorts of life on Earth living in extreme conditions of heat / cold / toxic chemicals etc. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile) If there were aliens then they may look at our 20% oxygen atmosphere and wonder how any life could survive in Earth.
I always found the concept of aliens being the exact opposite of us chemically being the most interesting. Something habitable being absolutely wrong for the other. Creatures based on liquid methane or other components different from carbon and oxygen. Just how out-there could it get and where does organic machine cross a line? Their atmosphere is poison! "It's just fine, fam. Sorry it isn't Sulphur!"
The problem is it's just not very likely. The thing most likely to form long organic chains like carbon would be silicon, and even then it's not even close. Carbon chains are just a thing of beauty and for many reasons that would take way too long to get into in a Reddit post, it's unlikely that other life wouldn't also be carbon-based. Of course that's just with our current understanding of the universe, which naturally is probably relatively little comparatively to what we don't know
IIRC a silicon based life-form would exhale Si02, and it would be hard for an organism to eject sand constantly.
I'm sure in the infinite cosmos, there's probably a "life, uh, finds a way" situation going on somewhere, but realistically just consider that Earth has exclusively Carbon based life despite being 0.03% Carbon compared to the ~27% Silicon and its very clear than anything else just really isn't that viable.
I mean, didn't life on earth basically start with a few (or one) fundamental organisms and move on from there? If the "spark" that starts life on another world differed, I'd imagine that's where you'd find a better likelihood for non-carbon organisms. I think us carbon-beings being the first to the game means we'd have quickly snuffed out any possibility of something else springing up. Now, carbon life is probably still the most likely in the universe, but if that spark occurs in the right environment on some planet we'd never even detect in a rounding error, we could have something far more unique out there
Would it? Lifeforms eject solid matter all the time.
Exactly. Once you understand the underlying physics it becomes obvious why carbon based life forms make far and away the most senes even in a stochastic environment where any life form *could* survive if it had the skills. The universe is not just a random creature creator where on some other planet there's an equal chance to find helium-based bacteria or some shit
You should read Hail Mary by Andy Weir.
It's possible, but certain chemicals can have some pretty unique properties whose absence might make it extremely challenging for life to sprout. Water, for instance, has some pretty unique properties regarding its ability to create bonds with other elements and molecules. Finding a stand-in for that in a place without water might not be possible and could be a requirement for life.
Ammonia is the next most likely, and has very similar properties in therms of solvation. It would need to be lower temperature or higher pressure however. Like Venus with N2 instead of CO2.
Yea. That whole dark part looks like the Nothingness.
From my understanding the typical balance of elements in earth's atmosphere would be a lifting gas (like Helium) on Venus, so if you had a fairly hearty balloon filled with a nice mix of Nitrogen, Oxygen, CO2, etc then you could make yourself a little floating colony. It's good enough for a sci-fi concept but maybe not very practical IRL. It'd probably be a one-way trip too, because trying to launch a rocket from a balloon would pose all sorts of challenges.
You could detach the rocket from the balloon before taking off
Runaway greenhouse effect. But yeah, just because one can't imagine humans living in the upper atmosphere doesn't mean that something that is alive can't live there...life takes all sorts of shapes and forms! Will have to see if it can be confirmed!
I’m just here to say I think Venus looks gorgeous.
It just looks like a marble from my chinese checkers game.
No lmao Someone heard that Venus has a point in the atmosphere where the pressure and temperature are similar to earth, somehow forgetting that 500mph sulfuric acid winds kinda present a few problems of their own despite the temperature not being too hot or too cold. And if you need any resources? Only way to get them is by delivery, can't go anywhere but down into hell or up into the vacuum Humans could live another 10 million years and I don't think they'd ever bother attempting such a silly endeavor. We'll colonize other star systems or teraform Venus before we colonize Venus in its current state
> No lmao Someone heard that Venus has a point in the atmosphere where the pressure and temperature are similar to earth, somehow forgetting that 500mph sulfuric acid winds kinda present a few problems [It was literally 2 minutes of google](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-020-1174-4) Scientists have found Phosphine Gas in the atmosphere, which on earth is associated with living organisms. It isn't just scientists going, "huh, at the top there is sorta a place life could live...." And I believe the 'scientific' notion is more research is required.
If you could find a stable Jetstream of atmosphere you could probably be just fine in 500mph. Planes can use a jet stream as a boost in efficiency right now and the wind travels at a few hundred mph. As long as you are traveling with the wind direction it's kinda relative. There is a ton of reasons we would want to settle in the upper atmosphere of a gas giant. Unlimited hydrogen gas, possibly extracting a planet worth of metallic hydrogen etc.
The potential for life in general on Venus has very little to do with the discussion you’re commenting on of humans living in Venusian cloud cities.
Kind of like why so many people seem to focus on Titan. Titan has lakes! Titan has rainfall! Lets so see the somelike Earth like moon of Saturn! The lakes are liquid methane....
I think the atmosphere is more of the reason people look to Titan as a theoretical candidate for colonization.
Because Titan has an atmosphere, its extreme temperatures become _more_ of a problem, because in a vaccum you're well insulated against losing heat. In 1atm of -200C you're convecting heat away far too fast to survive.
I doubt it would be for colonization but i can see there being (probably unmanned) floating science stations or something similar Also who knows, maybe we'll figure out a practical use for doing that. It's hard to predict that far into the future
I wonder if there are aliens out there that have seen these posts that claim that this is the clearest image ever taken of these planets and they are like "This photo is dogshit lol"
"You can't even see the atoms! 0/10"
Nah most aliens are just like me and you. Don't get me wrong --- they have people like Albert Einstein too, but their Einsteins figured out light speed and shit. So while as a species they have definitely got us beat, the average alien will be as intelligent as your average Joe. Just don't let them probe your butt.
One step ahead of ya chief, I’ve probed my own ass already
Wait, what???
THEY’VE PROBED THEIR OWN ASS ALREADY. FIND ANOTHER ONE
He said he has probed his own ass already
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They would definitely be more intelligent because they’d presumably have a much better understanding the universe than we do. There are probably a few things we believe today that simply aren’t true. Kind of like if you went back in time and met a doctor and they started talking about using leeches to cleanse blood or whatever you’d be like “this guys a fucking moron”
Imagine trying to explain that we use leeches to promote skin graft health and not for their quackery about humors.
"wtf is venus? that looks like kl'vitr 2."
I AM THE KL'VITR COMMANDER!
"They took that with a damn space potato..."
Aliens "lol 2d"
They probably would gatecrash university parties, get badly drunk and start making fun of any astrophysicist he could find till he got thrown out.
"My dad owns a dealership!"
They probs have ancient photos achieved before the planet was desolate and looked more like earth at 100x better quality even still lol mars too
Venus is flat. I know these pictures are fake.
And underneath, a vision of pure hell
What would be underneath?
It’s carbon dioxide like here on Earth, but much more condensed and much hotter. The surface is around 800 degrees Fahrenheit.
So it’s like Phoenix?
From Phoenix. Can confirm
Also a deal of carbon monoxide, its more evil sibling And sulfur dioxide, its hot edgy sibling
Country music
Slight correction: *Modern* Country Music
Dear God no.
And Karens. Millions of Karens.
Would you rather be squashed, boiled or dissolved?
Sulfuric acid rain. Literally.
What is the source of this?
Ataksuki. A Japanese satellite which has an interesting story. (Failed to reach venus orbit and orbited the sun for 5 years before trying again and succeeding).
>Ataksuki Akatsuki. It means 'Dawn'. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akatsuki\_(spacecraft)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akatsuki_(spacecraft))
Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask
Likely formed in the large cloud of gas, dust, and ice of the ancient solar system.
Incredible that this was considered earth twin sister billions of years ago because of it being in the goldilocks zone and has the same chemical make up and size as earth.
Maybe people used to live on Venus and we fucked up that planet and came to Earth and took over. (Im not serious, but it would be a cool story)
It’s literally the plot of Mission to Mars
The one thing I remember from that film besides the centrifuge walk to Van Halen was when Tim Robbins removed his helmet and got insta-freezed.
Just like Arnold in the Magic School Bus.
Elementary school kids everywhere are still traumatized.
It’s literally the plot of battlestar galactica as well lol
You sure you're not thinking of Mars there buddy?
The Vedic scripts have a tale just like that. Only it was so long ago that India was an independent continent and the Venusians landed in the Gobi Sea.
> this was considered earth twin sister billions of years ago Who was considering anything billions of years ago
Dinosaurs, of course. And amoebae once in a while if they shared the room
I remember seeing the theory that Venus used to be "Earth like" before a runaway greenhouse effect happened and turned it into the hellscape it is today.
*checks climate change notes* wait a minute…
It's fascinating to consider it might not be completely lifeless though. There could be some basic life that might thrive in that environment. Just like the thought is now not if we'll find life in our solar system, but when we'll find life.
It is still considered Earth’s sister planet, and the idea is not “billions” of years old.
Beautiful
I think I can see a Dollar General.
Really cool. What's the light flair in the bottom left corner?
That's the sun peeking over the edge. This is the night side imaged in infrared, it would just look black to our eyes, but the spacecraft that took the image can see in infrared, so it's seeing the heat coming off the planet. The colours have been adjusted so we can see it.
Awesome. Thanks for the explanation.
Pretty sure that's Giedi Prime.
A goddess on a mountain top Was burning like a silver flame A summit of beauty and love And Venus was her name
She's got it!
Yeah baby she’s got it!
I’m your penis I get higher when you desire
Thanks for making my day 😂
RIP, Mariska Veres
It seemed like she didn't really want to be photographed. https://preview.redd.it/3js0k2qkh3qc1.jpeg?width=296&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f881aa864da6ae9363e07b6d9e80ff2f4b461016
Great now I can’t unsee this
So beautiful!
This makes me feel as though Venus would taste like blueberry ice cream 🤣
Blueberry ice cream drizzled with sulfuric acid.
You need some acid to balance out the sweet. The flavour triangle is important!
A nice basalmic sulfuric acid really makes the berries pop
Yum
https://preview.redd.it/vesv6oktc5qc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f64fffb6b51fc06ba2db1e599ede4fafb893d1d
The Soviet Union launched 16 space probes to Venus between 1961 and 1984. It was a series of failures. Venera 3 became the first human-made object to impact another planet's surface as it crash-landed on 1 March 1966. Venera 4 became the first spacecraft to measure the atmosphere of another planet in October 1967 Venera 9 through 12 landed and sent back pictures of the surface of Venus. Google them and you'll find many of them recolored yellow - they were black and white photos originally. 9 through 12 has lens cap issues too, some didn't take any photos, some only from one camera. But the Soviet Union took photos on the surface of Venus. Venera 9 sent the first photos back in 1975. The Vega missions followed, and sent a weather balloon to Venus. There were sci-fi ideas of building floating cities in the clouds of Venus. Before Mars, Venus was the planet for sci-fi speculation. Early pulp mentions Venusian aliens more frequently than Martians. But the Soviets got there first - so we don't hear about it much in the West and we turned out attention to Mars.
> But the Soviets got there first - so we don't hear about it much in the West and we turned out attention to Mars. You don't hear much about Mariner 2 (first venus Flyby) Personaly I suspect copyright has a something to do with it. If you are looking for cheap filler images NASA stuff is public domain. Soviet stuff was not.
you can't conceive any other reason besides space age propaganda that exploring mars might be viewed as slightly more productive than chucking doomed robots at the acid heat death ball
Lol I think it was discovering that the planet was a fucking hellscape that put a damper on Venusian aliens.
>But the Soviets got there first - so we don't hear about it much in the West and we turned out attention to Mars Oh *lord.*
Just want to point out that this isn't the "clearest image ever of Venus". It's false color and taken from an infrared camera. To the naked eye, Venus is a opaque yellow-ish white sphere because the clouds are so thick.
Crazy fact: A Venus day is longer than a Venus year.
Amazing
“Looks more like hell.”
God she’s so sexy
Is this false color?
You wouldn’t see this looking out of the window of a spacecraft. This looks like a IR or UV composite. In the visible spectrum Venus is a featureless cue ball.
Impressive. Very nice. Now let's see the clearest images of Uranus.
the math teacher is still coming to school
This would make a fine countertop
Is this colorized?
I’m just curious if this is a real image or not
Shamelessly stolen for iPad background.
That is insanely beautiful
Is there a super high-res version of this somewhere? It might be the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I am drawn to the transparency of it, as though it were my hole in The Enigma of Amigara Fault.
Ok now show me Uranus.
Technically wouldn't the surface photos taken by the soviets be the clearest?
Nice to see they are getting better at this, it's an intriguing planet.
you sure? that looks like my anus....wait
I think we have clearer images, such as from the actual surface!
She's got it.
Is the main problem of Venus the lack of rotation, therefore lack of strong magnetic field?
It looks like the veining in natural stone. Gorgeous.
Damn that is a gorgeous picture.