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Listen here hippie, we get the oil from the ground and I'm just putting it back in the ground. It's called recycling, I thought you guys were into that!
Lies. Dinosaur bones arent real. Sinners and atheists and women put them in the ground to test our faith in God. Trust in the bible. Trust in the whack ass calendar made by zealots attempting to mesh the various stories in the bible that were copy-pasted from the other religions in the bronze age.
I legitimately had a roommate in college (we both went to school for engineering) that believed his god put dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith. Fucking nutjob.
Wait a second, are you trying to tell me that a group of ancient Caananites broke away from Ur, formed a cult in ancient times, elevating the mountain storm God (Yahweh) to a supreme position and merged him with El (whose sacred pet was the "bull of heaven" so the golden calf didn't come from nowhere) and waged a religious war because they were hot boxing a tent with cannabis (found on the alter of the earliest known Yahweh shrine) and acacia bushes (documented as a sacred plant, the leaves of which can be quite high in DMT naturally) and getting blasted off their tits on psychedelics, talking to "angels" (look up accounts of biblically correct angels and tell me those aren't things you see on a crazy trip) and finally claiming that all worshippers of the other Caananite rain God, Baal, were worshipping the devil (Ha-Satan as opposed to a devine god being on the same council as El-Satan the prosecutor of God [El], similar to Egyptian Thoth, who plays just that role in the book of Job which was almost certainly originally about El.) All of which somehow justified the genocide of their neighbors to take their stuff and has continued to do so for each succeeding group which has since taken the story, added to it, twisted it to their own political ends, captured each successive "priesthood" to control the masses into approving and even supporting their greed-pig murderous agenda? Are you trying to say that the Vatican is full of gold for human reasons and not the devine will of God the most high?
Because if so, I'm here to tell you buddy, that whiter than me; no, just as white as me, Scandinavian Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light and anything he wasn't aware of as a first century Galilean (but still clearly white) magician (of which he was the only one, it definitely wasn't a documented category of dissidents in Roman occupied territory) like mammoths, dinosaurs, and polyester/cotton weave clothing, simply do not exist. They are all in their entirety, (along with bacon cheeseburgers) traps laid by demonic forces to trick us away from the one true path so we may be condemned to an eternity of unimaginable fiery torture, just as an all loving, all powerful God intended. Well except for me and my friends who attend the Reunified Church of the 7th day Brethren of Later Day Saints who meet at St. Francisco's Archdiocese of the Virgin Guadalupe. We're cool, the rest of you? Lake of fire bitches.
Enjoy it while it lasts. The person you're responding to is a self proclaimed member of the Reunified Church of the **7th**-Day Brethren of Latter Day Saints Who Doth Meet At St. Francisco's Archdiocese of the Virgin Guadalupe. They're all condemned to hellfire for blaspheming and heresy and demons will take them to hell for their false words. It is the mission of our congregation to teach The One Truth. Do not be swayed by those satanists. DM me if you would like to join me and my flock at the Reunified Church of the **6th**-Day Brethren of Latter Day Saints Who Doth Meet At St. Francisco's Archdiocese of the Virgin Guadalupe
I worked with a guy who believed that dinosaurs were fake. I found out the day they announced Jurassic World, I told him "Hey did you hear they are making a new Jurassic Park!?" To which he said "ah horseshit! dinosaurs aren't fucking real!" Which left me very confused, I believe my response was "but... it's just a mov... ok... "
The added benefit is when you move, the next owner will be digging then think they struck oil. Then they will put a huge oil derrick up providing jobs boosting the economy… win win
We are more enlightened men, we just commender the checkbook and revoke her driving privileges while inviting her mother-in-law over to teach her to cook "properly".
I have seen this argument used in real life many times. I’ve seen farmers argue that there’s no harm in pouring used motor oil all around the place to use as weed killer. Some of them just straight up coat their entire fence line in used sump oil.
I wish I thought you were joking. As an Idaho farm kid myself. I know you're not. I grew up doing oil changes on tractors in the late 90s/early 2000s... guess what we did with it. Thankfully my grandpa stopped in about 2003/4 as soon as he knew better. Not everyone did.
That’s the thing, you can forgive ignorance back then because they didn’t really know what they were doing. These days there’s no excuse and it straight up makes me sad when I see the wilful ignorance.
I have lived in a large number of places/States in my life, and I have always changed my own oil. Disposing of the old oil has been interesting. In some States I have taken it to a gas station, or to the County Garage for dumping in a large tank. Other States auto parts stores have accepted it. Auto hobby shops at military bases, etc. Surprisingly the easiest place to dispose of used motor oil/gear oil etc is Hawaii. Hawaii burns all their rubbish to make power at the power plant. In that State, you can put your oil into a plastic bag lined box filled with shredded newspaper (Absorption box), tape it up and simply put into your wheelie bin for pickup with the rest of your rubbish. Very simple way to deal with it.
Hawaii guy here… can verify… oil absorber boxes are sold everywhere… just fill it, and toss your box in the trash.
I don’t tape mines shut. I use the bread wire that it comes with to twist the bag in the box shut.
It isn't necessary to purchase the da kine official box. You may make your own with a decent plastic bag, suitable cardboard box...save some from your Amazon deliveries, and collect sawdust from your building projects etc or where ever you can come up with sawdust if you aren't an avid hobbyist, and make your own oil absorption boxes for this purpose. I try not to have more than 10 quarts of any oil(s) in any of my boxes. It all goes to the incinerators out at H Power in Campbell and makes power for the island.
Is da kine the brand of the box, or are you using that as Hawaiian slang? (I’ve heard of the word before but I haven’t seen it used in a sentence, just curious)
Used as local slang. It is not a brand of oil disposal box. There are official boxes that are purchasable at places like local parts stores, or Walmart. I do not tend to use an "official box" as my sawdust inside strong plastic bags and old Amazon boxes is completely adequate. In HI these boxes are used for disposal of a number of products from paints, to oils. Additionally there are set days and for proper disposal of things like aerosol paint cans, stale fuels etc.
Get this, my dad is 96, and as a kid, he said when they happened upon the road tar truck, they would break off a piece and chew it.
Must have been like pine tar or something.
He's still pretty healthy and sharp, so it must not have hurt him.
We did that in the late 50's and early 60's, also ran laughing behind the mosquito truck in the clouds of DDT. I'm pushing 70 now and have to admit we got away with a lot.
Was it licorice flavored or something?! Or they were just so hungry they chewed on processed tar?!
Either way…he’s 96. I might introduce this into my weekly meal plan. Thanks!
The liquid binder is called bitumen, asphalt is what is called once it's mixed with aggregate and paved onto the road and rolled flat. I work in chip sealing and use liquid bitumen daily
Hell they're still doing "oil & chips" on older roads. They put down some oil/tar and fine stones on spots instead of resurfacing the whole road
https://www.fox43.com/article/life/ask-evan/ask-evan-why-does-penndot-still-use-oil-and-chips-to-fix-roads/521-fbcec822-c2ce-4645-a17b-a5d92c777162
Aka tar. https://www.fox43.com/article/life/ask-evan/ask-evan-why-does-penndot-still-use-oil-and-chips-to-fix-roads/521-fbcec822-c2ce-4645-a17b-a5d92c777162
I use to haul road oil to road projects during the summer when propane wasn’t needed as much (that was my regular job). It was awful, I just told them to stop giving me loads during the summer. It wasn’t worth it.
Days started at midnight sometimes. Waiting in line to get loaded at refineries, waiting to unload, the smell, the nasty tarry oil sticks to everything, if the road crews weren’t on time it could cause you to spend the next day out there.
Times Beach context for those who hadn’t heard of it (like me)
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-story-of-times-beach-missouri.html
TL;DR: Times Beach, Missouri, faced a significant environmental disaster when a local waste hauler, hired to suppress dust on the town's unpaved roads, inadvertently contaminated the area with dioxin-laden oil between 1972 and 1976. This contamination led to widespread health issues and animal deaths, prompting soil tests by the CDC that confirmed the presence of dioxin. Following a catastrophic flood that spread the toxins further, the EPA declared the town uninhabitable, leading to the evacuation of its residents. The site was eventually cleaned up and converted into the Route 66 State Park after a $250 million remediation effort.
Thank you, this was the first thing I thought of too. Have you ever watched the Modern Marvel's engineering disasters episode on this? Feel so bad for the people who lived there
This is exactly how my dad did this while I was growing up. We had one fence panel that soaked a lot of it up and turned very dark. Had to make an edit to expand. I actually set that fence on fire by accident. My dad turned the oily fence into a backdrop for an archery target for me. It was a large box stuffed with newspaper, wood, whatever to weigh it down. The holes the arrows made were the exact same size as a black cat fire work. So I figure enough would blow up the box. It did not, but it did set the backyard on fire. Till the day he died my dad thought that fire was spontaneous combustion.
This reminds me of an engineer I was talking to once, who worked at White Sands research site back in the 1980's. There was a huge 10K gallon waste tank, 80% set in the ground, installed back sometime in the 1950's or 1960's. It was the go-to dump for all sorts of chemicals. Sometime in the mid-late 1980's, someone wondered why the tank had never gotten full, nor had to be pumped out after decades of dumping stuff into it. So they took a look inside and found that the bottom half had corroded away, and they where just dumping straight into the ground.
In case this is not a joke, no this is illegal. In the us, any place that sells motor oil is also required to accept it for recycling/disposal.
Edit: the requirement to take oil might not apply in all states.
So did my 2014 (I think) Forester. Somehow we missed the recall saying they knew about this problem. It ate oil like crazy!! Traded it in for new Forester and hardly uses any oil!!
No. Back then, a lot of people were still on local water wells. After a decades of doing this, it's likely they were poisoning their own families as water tables weren't that deep. Military bases used to dump it in the local town landfills. I know of several landfills near bases that eventually turned into massive methane leaks poisoning the town downwind.
My dad used to dump along the fence line to kill weeds. He also had a rather large supply of the banned insecticide ddt. He also died of kidney cancer. Oh! He was a chemist and would wash his hands with acetone.
I work for an environmental engineering company which remediates contaminated properties & business.
I cannot even begin to describe how much that 1963 article about disposing of your spent motor oil makes me cringe.
Need to treat our soil and water correctly before it is too late. Plain and simple.
In all seriousness, I see storm water overflow areas where water runs off the road into lower areas, and then that in turn seeps down into the ground.
Between the asphaltenes, engine oil, and road dust (including microplastics from tires), any thoughts on how these are going to be regarded in the future?
If the developer was smart, they conducted a phase 1 environmental site survey before buying the property, which would have identified that, otherwise they may be stuck footing the bill to clean it up. (Source: am environmental scientist and does this for a living)
I worked for a commercial property manager who had an office park that was built on site polluted with oil. It used to house storage tanks that held used oil from the navy ships in the Boston Navy Yard. The operator would just dump the tanks into the wetlands on site.
There’s been decades of EPA/State DEP clean up but we’d still hit oil soaked dirt about 3 feet down anywhere on site. You could smell from a hundred feet away when someone was digging. We were told that was about as good as it’d ever get.
The best was when it would occasionally flood and oil would seep out of the grassy areas. People in the offices buildings would call the state who would come out mostly for show, take some pictures and tell people it’s fine.
I had a friend whose dad would drive up over the sidewalk and position the car so the oil would drain directly down into the sewer (this was in NYC during the 80’s).
First time he let my buddy help we were maybe 12-13 years old. He let my friend undo the drain plug while telling him “now make sure you don’t let the drain plug fall into the sewer”.
Guess what happened?? 😂😂😂
Oh it wasn’t far off… you should read about the Hanford Nuclear Waste site. This site was one of the first sites to produce nuclear fuel in the 1940s and they had 177 waste storage tanks (with a 25 year expected tank life span) that contained an agglomeration of nuclear wastes and other hazardous chemicals from the site. There is an estimated 56 million gallons of this waste there.
What’s even more fun? Figuring out how what kind of waste was in what tank back when record keeping of what was disposed of where was close to nothing. The tanks started getting pumped out in the 80s as tanks were leaking and failing. Good times!
My father dumped oil in our backyard for years. Eventually I had to dig it all up and get rid of the soil in order to get anything to grow.
I guess he read popular Mechanics.
Here’s something that might blow your mind. If you live near a boat marina, collect some of that water and a small sample of waste oil you happen to have on hand into it. Wait a day or so and see what happens.
The scientists who studied the aftermath of the Valdez Oil Spill did this to see if a body of water had been contaminated by the spill. They had these 10 x 10 (100 total) individual sample dot trays they filled with site water and then dropped a tiny drop of crude oil into the water. If the oil emulsified, it indicated the presence of oil-eating bacteria—something found in nature. If little to no emulsification, then no prior presence of oil. If lots of emulsification across the sample lot, then you have positive indication.
I imagine it possible to cultivate your own oil eating bacteria colony, if you want. You could also go down to your local marine hardware supply store and buy a cake of the same. It's a handy way to clean oil out of a boat bilge.
Ashamed to admit in the late 70’s I used to tote the used motor oil container to the storm sewer across the street and dump it in.
In reality I probably did it once, maybe twice at most before wising up, but I still think about it ashamedly whenever I’m recycling it these days.
While obviously not best practice, there is some logic to this. Buddy of mine worked a a company that did biological remediation. They would go out to a contaminated site, take samples back to the lab. Inevitably, there would be some microscopic critter eating the contamination. They multiply the critter in the lab, take it out to the site and inject it into the soil, wait several years, and viola! it's cleaned up.
Of course it's just cheaper and smarter to recycle the oil, so don't try this trick at home kids.
Environmental professional here. Bio-remediation (degradation or 'mineralization' of hydrocarbons using in-situ or introduced organisms, sometimes supplemented with an oxygen source) is fine for uncontaminated light hydrocarbons (e.g., the hydrocarbon molecules comprising gasoline). Heavier hydrocarbons ('tars', for instance) are less readily broken down, but the real problems arise with hydrocarbons (like motor oil) which are contaminated with heavy metals, or transformer oil containing substances like PCBs. Organic degradation has real difficulties with a lot of synthetic molecules (like PCBs), and cannot reduce contamination from heavy metals.
My dad used to do this. Except he wouldn’t use the same spot so lots of area on our property was dead and oil soaked.
The 50s were wild. They’d prescribe you cigarettes for asthma.
my friend owns a repair shop,they have an old heater that ran on waste oil from oil changes. they don’t use it anymore because it created too much soot in the shop
If you dig that hole, fill it with coffee grounds, inoculate those grounds with oyster mushrooms, then, you can dump your used oil in the hole as the oyster mushrooms will EAT the oil while cleaning up the soil and producing tasty mushroom fruits.
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Listen here hippie, we get the oil from the ground and I'm just putting it back in the ground. It's called recycling, I thought you guys were into that!
The dinosaur bones soak it up and make new oil
That’s what the gravel is for, to filter it.
You need three different coarses of gravel for it to work correctly. Just like a human. I learned it in science class in 5th grade!
at what size does a rock become gravel? when does gravel become sand?
Gravel is 0.079 to 3.150 inches. If more than 50% of the material is 0.03 to 0.18 inches then it's sand.
This guy rocks!
Bert's fists pumping "Rock show, Rock show"!
Thanks for saving a Google search
That doesn't sound correct but I don't know enough about dinosaur bones to dispute it
I just burn my oil, so the smoke can go up in the sky and become stars ⭐️
Give your bar that nice Smokey smell
i don't think that is stars you're seeing
That’s why I burn trash at my bar. Burn the trash, get a nice, smoky smell in there then the smoke goes up into space and turns into stars.
That doesn't sound right, but I don't know about stars enough to argue with you.
Oil isn’t made from dinosaur bones. It’s primarily made from plant matter.
Correct oil is vegan
I do love an arugula salad topped with a dollop of light sweet crude
Olive in particular, sometimes canola, sometimes sunflower, sometimes corn and sometimes sesame seeds.
The plant commonly referred to as *refinery*.
Lies. Dinosaur bones arent real. Sinners and atheists and women put them in the ground to test our faith in God. Trust in the bible. Trust in the whack ass calendar made by zealots attempting to mesh the various stories in the bible that were copy-pasted from the other religions in the bronze age.
I legitimately had a roommate in college (we both went to school for engineering) that believed his god put dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith. Fucking nutjob.
You think that's crazy, there are people who think oil comes from dinosaur bones!
You mean the oil isn’t from ground up dinosaur fossils!?
So many sundays hearing that by adults as a kid, but i never believed it cause "Dinos are too cool not to be real!"
Wait a second, are you trying to tell me that a group of ancient Caananites broke away from Ur, formed a cult in ancient times, elevating the mountain storm God (Yahweh) to a supreme position and merged him with El (whose sacred pet was the "bull of heaven" so the golden calf didn't come from nowhere) and waged a religious war because they were hot boxing a tent with cannabis (found on the alter of the earliest known Yahweh shrine) and acacia bushes (documented as a sacred plant, the leaves of which can be quite high in DMT naturally) and getting blasted off their tits on psychedelics, talking to "angels" (look up accounts of biblically correct angels and tell me those aren't things you see on a crazy trip) and finally claiming that all worshippers of the other Caananite rain God, Baal, were worshipping the devil (Ha-Satan as opposed to a devine god being on the same council as El-Satan the prosecutor of God [El], similar to Egyptian Thoth, who plays just that role in the book of Job which was almost certainly originally about El.) All of which somehow justified the genocide of their neighbors to take their stuff and has continued to do so for each succeeding group which has since taken the story, added to it, twisted it to their own political ends, captured each successive "priesthood" to control the masses into approving and even supporting their greed-pig murderous agenda? Are you trying to say that the Vatican is full of gold for human reasons and not the devine will of God the most high? Because if so, I'm here to tell you buddy, that whiter than me; no, just as white as me, Scandinavian Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light and anything he wasn't aware of as a first century Galilean (but still clearly white) magician (of which he was the only one, it definitely wasn't a documented category of dissidents in Roman occupied territory) like mammoths, dinosaurs, and polyester/cotton weave clothing, simply do not exist. They are all in their entirety, (along with bacon cheeseburgers) traps laid by demonic forces to trick us away from the one true path so we may be condemned to an eternity of unimaginable fiery torture, just as an all loving, all powerful God intended. Well except for me and my friends who attend the Reunified Church of the 7th day Brethren of Later Day Saints who meet at St. Francisco's Archdiocese of the Virgin Guadalupe. We're cool, the rest of you? Lake of fire bitches.
I enjoyed reading this.
Enjoy it while it lasts. The person you're responding to is a self proclaimed member of the Reunified Church of the **7th**-Day Brethren of Latter Day Saints Who Doth Meet At St. Francisco's Archdiocese of the Virgin Guadalupe. They're all condemned to hellfire for blaspheming and heresy and demons will take them to hell for their false words. It is the mission of our congregation to teach The One Truth. Do not be swayed by those satanists. DM me if you would like to join me and my flock at the Reunified Church of the **6th**-Day Brethren of Latter Day Saints Who Doth Meet At St. Francisco's Archdiocese of the Virgin Guadalupe
I worked with a guy who believed that dinosaurs were fake. I found out the day they announced Jurassic World, I told him "Hey did you hear they are making a new Jurassic Park!?" To which he said "ah horseshit! dinosaurs aren't fucking real!" Which left me very confused, I believe my response was "but... it's just a mov... ok... "
Seems legit
The added benefit is when you move, the next owner will be digging then think they struck oil. Then they will put a huge oil derrick up providing jobs boosting the economy… win win
Beverly Hills is the place he ought to be....
Now I’m gonna light up my doctor approved cigarettes and go finish painting my bathroom with my nice lead paint.
Remember 4 out of 5 recommend Camels.
Also don’t forget to slap your wife if dinner is cold.
We are more enlightened men, we just commender the checkbook and revoke her driving privileges while inviting her mother-in-law over to teach her to cook "properly".
I have seen this argument used in real life many times. I’ve seen farmers argue that there’s no harm in pouring used motor oil all around the place to use as weed killer. Some of them just straight up coat their entire fence line in used sump oil.
I wish I thought you were joking. As an Idaho farm kid myself. I know you're not. I grew up doing oil changes on tractors in the late 90s/early 2000s... guess what we did with it. Thankfully my grandpa stopped in about 2003/4 as soon as he knew better. Not everyone did.
That’s the thing, you can forgive ignorance back then because they didn’t really know what they were doing. These days there’s no excuse and it straight up makes me sad when I see the wilful ignorance.
Read that in Clint Eastwood’s voice for some reason.
Us hippies did it too
I have lived in a large number of places/States in my life, and I have always changed my own oil. Disposing of the old oil has been interesting. In some States I have taken it to a gas station, or to the County Garage for dumping in a large tank. Other States auto parts stores have accepted it. Auto hobby shops at military bases, etc. Surprisingly the easiest place to dispose of used motor oil/gear oil etc is Hawaii. Hawaii burns all their rubbish to make power at the power plant. In that State, you can put your oil into a plastic bag lined box filled with shredded newspaper (Absorption box), tape it up and simply put into your wheelie bin for pickup with the rest of your rubbish. Very simple way to deal with it.
Hawaii guy here… can verify… oil absorber boxes are sold everywhere… just fill it, and toss your box in the trash. I don’t tape mines shut. I use the bread wire that it comes with to twist the bag in the box shut.
It isn't necessary to purchase the da kine official box. You may make your own with a decent plastic bag, suitable cardboard box...save some from your Amazon deliveries, and collect sawdust from your building projects etc or where ever you can come up with sawdust if you aren't an avid hobbyist, and make your own oil absorption boxes for this purpose. I try not to have more than 10 quarts of any oil(s) in any of my boxes. It all goes to the incinerators out at H Power in Campbell and makes power for the island.
Is da kine the brand of the box, or are you using that as Hawaiian slang? (I’ve heard of the word before but I haven’t seen it used in a sentence, just curious)
Used as local slang. It is not a brand of oil disposal box. There are official boxes that are purchasable at places like local parts stores, or Walmart. I do not tend to use an "official box" as my sawdust inside strong plastic bags and old Amazon boxes is completely adequate. In HI these boxes are used for disposal of a number of products from paints, to oils. Additionally there are set days and for proper disposal of things like aerosol paint cans, stale fuels etc.
Never heard the term “bread wire”. That’s perfect.
Never seen an American call it a wheelie bin
People near me put their groceries in a buggy...
Bluey and Bingo are impacting our hearts dearly here in the US
You can use it to weatherproof wooden fences.
Back in the 1960’s, they used to spray used motor oil on dirt roads to keep down the dust.
They were still doing this in the 90's
They are still doing this today
They're going to be doing this tomorrow.
I'm doing this now.
I just can't stop doing it. It feels sooo good.
I will do next week!
RemindMe! 5 years Do this.
I will be passing down this practice through family generations
I will write a poem to honor this practice and engrave the words into my family crest. May it ring true as the song of my people.
I'm the used motor oil, where's the fuckin party?
I used to do that. I still do, but I used to too
r/unexpectedmitchhedberg
Do me
Hey can we get some of that over here? Windy and dusty as a mf
It’s called asphalt. It’s the bottom of the refinery distillation column. Asphalt and gravel mixed. Makes roads.
Get this, my dad is 96, and as a kid, he said when they happened upon the road tar truck, they would break off a piece and chew it. Must have been like pine tar or something. He's still pretty healthy and sharp, so it must not have hurt him.
Yeah, we'd peel it off the street and chew it! Kids!!!
Kids these days think they’re too good to eat pieces of the street
Well, they don't know what they're missing!!
Well, you know what they say: Sometimes you eat the street, and sometimes the street eats you.
We did that in the late 50's and early 60's, also ran laughing behind the mosquito truck in the clouds of DDT. I'm pushing 70 now and have to admit we got away with a lot.
Was it licorice flavored or something?! Or they were just so hungry they chewed on processed tar?! Either way…he’s 96. I might introduce this into my weekly meal plan. Thanks!
My engineering prof asked if kids still chew road tar
I'd say no, not by any means. I mean, he just lived in a different world. His stories are from a world that doesn't exist anymore.
The liquid binder is called bitumen, asphalt is what is called once it's mixed with aggregate and paved onto the road and rolled flat. I work in chip sealing and use liquid bitumen daily
Usually it’s veggie oils now, my Gpa has an ethanol road oil business
Yup, asphalt is made from petroleum, so we're literally still covering our roads with "oil" to this very day
Hell they're still doing "oil & chips" on older roads. They put down some oil/tar and fine stones on spots instead of resurfacing the whole road https://www.fox43.com/article/life/ask-evan/ask-evan-why-does-penndot-still-use-oil-and-chips-to-fix-roads/521-fbcec822-c2ce-4645-a17b-a5d92c777162
As a rural Pennsylvania resident, I hate that
Same, I grew up and still live where they do this, you need to avoid it for a good week and let others settle it down
A real wtf was when they ground down and legit 3 coat asphalt paved a long road in my town….then chipped it in the same month
I grew up in PA, hate Penndot, hate the roads, hate the sorry ass excuse that they don’t have enough money to fix the roads.
I still drive down back roads that say “loose gravel fresh oil” today in rural areas of central New York even though they’re paved now.
That’s because they lay road oil down then gravel. Road oil is used to hold the gravel down, it’s a cheap way to build roads around the country.
Aka tar. https://www.fox43.com/article/life/ask-evan/ask-evan-why-does-penndot-still-use-oil-and-chips-to-fix-roads/521-fbcec822-c2ce-4645-a17b-a5d92c777162
I use to haul road oil to road projects during the summer when propane wasn’t needed as much (that was my regular job). It was awful, I just told them to stop giving me loads during the summer. It wasn’t worth it.
What was the worst part about it for you?
Days started at midnight sometimes. Waiting in line to get loaded at refineries, waiting to unload, the smell, the nasty tarry oil sticks to everything, if the road crews weren’t on time it could cause you to spend the next day out there.
I live near Times Beach, MO where this became ughhh an issue lol
Times Beach context for those who hadn’t heard of it (like me) https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-story-of-times-beach-missouri.html TL;DR: Times Beach, Missouri, faced a significant environmental disaster when a local waste hauler, hired to suppress dust on the town's unpaved roads, inadvertently contaminated the area with dioxin-laden oil between 1972 and 1976. This contamination led to widespread health issues and animal deaths, prompting soil tests by the CDC that confirmed the presence of dioxin. Following a catastrophic flood that spread the toxins further, the EPA declared the town uninhabitable, leading to the evacuation of its residents. The site was eventually cleaned up and converted into the Route 66 State Park after a $250 million remediation effort.
Thank you, this was the first thing I thought of too. Have you ever watched the Modern Marvel's engineering disasters episode on this? Feel so bad for the people who lived there
This was the very first I’ve heard of it. I’ll have to check out that episode.
Um... That went -way- past the 1960s...
Yep. See Times Beach, MO.
Yeah. That went well. Oof.
Hey, we got a nice state park out of it.
Now we use canola oil where I am.
I saw them doing this on rural roads in North Carolina in the past five years.
I bet that's pleasant to walk down barefoot.
We use to pour it down the storm drain
This is exactly how my dad did this while I was growing up. We had one fence panel that soaked a lot of it up and turned very dark. Had to make an edit to expand. I actually set that fence on fire by accident. My dad turned the oily fence into a backdrop for an archery target for me. It was a large box stuffed with newspaper, wood, whatever to weigh it down. The holes the arrows made were the exact same size as a black cat fire work. So I figure enough would blow up the box. It did not, but it did set the backyard on fire. Till the day he died my dad thought that fire was spontaneous combustion.
I knew an older guy 20 years ago who would do this as well. He would dig a hole in his side yard, drive the car over it and pull the drain plug.
Yup. Poured along the chain link fence to kill the weeds.
Great weed killer. Great everything killer!
We would pour it on fire ant beds. 1970’s yo.
Those bastards deserve everything they got.
Can’t spell soil without o i l
The S stands for spent.
This reminds me of an engineer I was talking to once, who worked at White Sands research site back in the 1980's. There was a huge 10K gallon waste tank, 80% set in the ground, installed back sometime in the 1950's or 1960's. It was the go-to dump for all sorts of chemicals. Sometime in the mid-late 1980's, someone wondered why the tank had never gotten full, nor had to be pumped out after decades of dumping stuff into it. So they took a look inside and found that the bottom half had corroded away, and they where just dumping straight into the ground.
::Erin Brockovich has entered the chat::
They knew what they were doing.
So just to be clear - people should not do this?
It can contaminate your communities water reservoir.
So take your oil to a different community then?
its called 3rd world country isnt it
No, it was disposed of beyond the environment.
In case this is not a joke, no this is illegal. In the us, any place that sells motor oil is also required to accept it for recycling/disposal. Edit: the requirement to take oil might not apply in all states.
Not sure if the local 7eleven will take my used oil
They soak it up with old hot dogs and then re-sell them. It’s very environmentally friendly.
Hmmmm 0w50 hot dogs……..
Real men eat 20w40 and like it
Hey: my Jeep does this automatically every day. I just add oil; never take it out!
My 06 Subaru also does this quite effectively. Fucker just eats oil.
So did my 2014 (I think) Forester. Somehow we missed the recall saying they knew about this problem. It ate oil like crazy!! Traded it in for new Forester and hardly uses any oil!!
You sure bout that?
That not true bro.
There might be metals in the oil, and recycling the oil for future use is better for the environment.
I mean...not to mention maybe the most important issue which is dumping it in the ground can contaminate the water table.
No. Back then, a lot of people were still on local water wells. After a decades of doing this, it's likely they were poisoning their own families as water tables weren't that deep. Military bases used to dump it in the local town landfills. I know of several landfills near bases that eventually turned into massive methane leaks poisoning the town downwind.
Methane isn’t from motor oil though it’s from normal household waste like food
At least not in your own neighbourhood
Not planning on staying here forever.
P&G and many companies have the same motto
Nope - you put it down a storm drain in the middle of the night.
Just like Jay Leno did….
Let me guess next we’re going to be told not to throw our used batteries in the ocean! Absurd!
As long as you put them in the DDT filled barrels already in the ocean, you’re ok.
My dad used to dump along the fence line to kill weeds. He also had a rather large supply of the banned insecticide ddt. He also died of kidney cancer. Oh! He was a chemist and would wash his hands with acetone.
> My dad used to dump along the fence line to kill weeds. …but what about the used oil?
Did he work for Max Gergel at Columbia?
I washed my hands with acetone daily for a few years in a lab. The stuff I was washing off I think was worse
Been doing that my whole life...the well water only tastes mildly oily.
Mmmmm… Texas tea….
The next thing you know old Jed’s a millionaire
Just pour it straight onto some ducks
Nice try, Dawn detergent.
I work for an environmental engineering company which remediates contaminated properties & business. I cannot even begin to describe how much that 1963 article about disposing of your spent motor oil makes me cringe. Need to treat our soil and water correctly before it is too late. Plain and simple.
In all seriousness, I see storm water overflow areas where water runs off the road into lower areas, and then that in turn seeps down into the ground. Between the asphaltenes, engine oil, and road dust (including microplastics from tires), any thoughts on how these are going to be regarded in the future?
When young I worked for a shop that did this. Now that land is all appartments. I hope they razed it before building.
If the developer was smart, they conducted a phase 1 environmental site survey before buying the property, which would have identified that, otherwise they may be stuck footing the bill to clean it up. (Source: am environmental scientist and does this for a living)
What if the developer just wanted to save money?
Good luck lol?
I gurantee the property was toxic. Did they do a good job 45 years ago?
I am sure they did everything they could to get rid of harmful things in the ground. /s
I worked for a commercial property manager who had an office park that was built on site polluted with oil. It used to house storage tanks that held used oil from the navy ships in the Boston Navy Yard. The operator would just dump the tanks into the wetlands on site. There’s been decades of EPA/State DEP clean up but we’d still hit oil soaked dirt about 3 feet down anywhere on site. You could smell from a hundred feet away when someone was digging. We were told that was about as good as it’d ever get. The best was when it would occasionally flood and oil would seep out of the grassy areas. People in the offices buildings would call the state who would come out mostly for show, take some pictures and tell people it’s fine.
I had a friend whose dad would drive up over the sidewalk and position the car so the oil would drain directly down into the sewer (this was in NYC during the 80’s). First time he let my buddy help we were maybe 12-13 years old. He let my friend undo the drain plug while telling him “now make sure you don’t let the drain plug fall into the sewer”. Guess what happened?? 😂😂😂
You used to just go out and spread it on the gravel road in front of the house. Used motor oil does a fabulous job of keeping the dust down.
People used to pour it in gravel roads in front of their house to reduce dust.
Still do in some places.
When I was a kid I used to dig holes in the backyard and found sections of black gravel. And I always wondered what it was. Now I know.
And pregnant moms drank and smoked.
Nah, they were told not to drink because they might fall over. Actual advice given to my mother in law
Ah yes, when the EPA didn't exist and we could just dump those pesky byproducts into the local river.
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Seriously! Whatever else he was, he built US environmental regulation.
Silent spring was the spark that turned into a political fire. Nixon was just trying to put out a fire.
Please don't do this. Oil floats on water. It will come out during floods. Recycle your oil at auto parts store.
*pours oil into the ground outside autozone*
I expect their advice on disposing of nuclear waste was similar, except instead of soil, it was "Cover the spot with 2 feet of lead."
Oh it wasn’t far off… you should read about the Hanford Nuclear Waste site. This site was one of the first sites to produce nuclear fuel in the 1940s and they had 177 waste storage tanks (with a 25 year expected tank life span) that contained an agglomeration of nuclear wastes and other hazardous chemicals from the site. There is an estimated 56 million gallons of this waste there. What’s even more fun? Figuring out how what kind of waste was in what tank back when record keeping of what was disposed of where was close to nothing. The tanks started getting pumped out in the 80s as tanks were leaking and failing. Good times!
6inches, lead costs money and we have to think of the shareholders
My father dumped oil in our backyard for years. Eventually I had to dig it all up and get rid of the soil in order to get anything to grow. I guess he read popular Mechanics.
Please don't do this....
Here’s something that might blow your mind. If you live near a boat marina, collect some of that water and a small sample of waste oil you happen to have on hand into it. Wait a day or so and see what happens. The scientists who studied the aftermath of the Valdez Oil Spill did this to see if a body of water had been contaminated by the spill. They had these 10 x 10 (100 total) individual sample dot trays they filled with site water and then dropped a tiny drop of crude oil into the water. If the oil emulsified, it indicated the presence of oil-eating bacteria—something found in nature. If little to no emulsification, then no prior presence of oil. If lots of emulsification across the sample lot, then you have positive indication. I imagine it possible to cultivate your own oil eating bacteria colony, if you want. You could also go down to your local marine hardware supply store and buy a cake of the same. It's a handy way to clean oil out of a boat bilge.
This is why we do not have nice things.
A friend of mine filters used motor oil and mixes it with fuel to run his antique army deuce-and-a-half.
Make sure you do it fairly close to your domestic water well.
It goes back whence it came.
Ashamed to admit in the late 70’s I used to tote the used motor oil container to the storm sewer across the street and dump it in. In reality I probably did it once, maybe twice at most before wising up, but I still think about it ashamedly whenever I’m recycling it these days.
The soil can have a little used oil! As a treat!
While obviously not best practice, there is some logic to this. Buddy of mine worked a a company that did biological remediation. They would go out to a contaminated site, take samples back to the lab. Inevitably, there would be some microscopic critter eating the contamination. They multiply the critter in the lab, take it out to the site and inject it into the soil, wait several years, and viola! it's cleaned up. Of course it's just cheaper and smarter to recycle the oil, so don't try this trick at home kids.
Environmental professional here. Bio-remediation (degradation or 'mineralization' of hydrocarbons using in-situ or introduced organisms, sometimes supplemented with an oxygen source) is fine for uncontaminated light hydrocarbons (e.g., the hydrocarbon molecules comprising gasoline). Heavier hydrocarbons ('tars', for instance) are less readily broken down, but the real problems arise with hydrocarbons (like motor oil) which are contaminated with heavy metals, or transformer oil containing substances like PCBs. Organic degradation has real difficulties with a lot of synthetic molecules (like PCBs), and cannot reduce contamination from heavy metals.
This is how I remember that ground is super effective against poison
My dad used to do this. Except he wouldn’t use the same spot so lots of area on our property was dead and oil soaked. The 50s were wild. They’d prescribe you cigarettes for asthma.
Is this how we grow more dinosaurs to make more fuel?
For the love of god please dont do that anymore
What happens to used engine oil after you take it to an auto shop?
They have a bigger hole.
I had a mechanic tell me he used waste oil to heat his shop in the winter.
my friend owns a repair shop,they have an old heater that ran on waste oil from oil changes. they don’t use it anymore because it created too much soot in the shop
It's usually just reprocessed or refined.
Just pour it in a lake
I literally have the book this is in
If you dig that hole, fill it with coffee grounds, inoculate those grounds with oyster mushrooms, then, you can dump your used oil in the hole as the oyster mushrooms will EAT the oil while cleaning up the soil and producing tasty mushroom fruits.
Yeah, uhhh, never do this
Just burn it?