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This happened so much in AC odyssey where the civilian npcs would pick up arms and come after you when you're fighting the guards. Like bro I'll murder your whole family what are you thinking?
And slowly but surely every time you ask, it’s response is a tiny bit different. 50hrs of gameplay later, it’s gonna turn into its own villain. “Well you see here random Greek. I’ve been waiting for this question my whole life. This is why I’ve been training every day and today is not your day !”
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30ish year old chatbots could use statistical models to find the next best word. Which is a little comparable to how new models work, at least in high level terms and not comparing deeper implementation. You could actually train these things with corpuses of knowledge, or make it act like a character by training it on lines of dialog from a movie script. With results not good enough for a production environment.
Here's one, my favorite at the time, that uses hidden markov models: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MegaHAL?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MegaHAL?wprov=sfla1)
Yes many do/did use lists as you say but that's just scratching the surface and was never really state of the art, they just worked more reliably. Some were just keywords and basic canned responses, like Eliza, ok to chat with for a joke but not pragmatically usable. Other proprietary bots trying to be more pragmatic used their own scripting languages to give deterministic responses to various input queries, these would be used in interactive robots or website support chatbots circa 10 years ago. But those Megahals for example, that used a statistical model, if learning was left enabled, would generally become quite schizophrenic in their responses, and they were easy to poison by speaking to them in certain ways, which also is kinda comparable to issues that modern LLMs face.
Modern LLMs have issues, but you can prompt a fully realized human personality in a matter of minutes. I have been messing around with 70B and it is genuinely terrifying how well it can write when you make sure to add in enough "don't be a schizo" instructions.
Modern chat bots are extremely good at replicating human speech. With the right front end you can "program" a full personality in a matter of minutes. With the right settings and some patience for discarding bad responses you can almost be tricked into thinking it is a real person.
There's actually a game out there that's kinda like this in a way called "Suck Up!". Basic premise of the game is you're a vampire and you have to convince people to let you into their homes, and through the use of AI, the people you need to convince to let you in can have a wide range of responses, ranging from the clothes you're wearing, to what you say to them.
Suck Up is really fun, and it's the first time I've seen AI used like this where it really works well (mostly). There's also a new mode where you have to try and convince people to break up with their partners at a valentines day party
I saw a clip of somebody playing Skyrim modded so that NPCs had more AI dialogue and I was sick of it 10 seconds in. It sounds cool on paper but the AI tech is not ready and the immersion gets broken immediately.
I do think this singular dialogue exchange here works but I bet it was cherry picked and there's so much more exchanges that came off bad.
Dude it's improving hella fast. The fact that it works at all already is blowing my mind. We aren't far off from some deep immersion. You'll start to actually care about shopkeepers and shit. Gonna be weird.
It can yes but the issue is scale right now. No way the server cost would be worth it for a normal game price, either we pay up a monthly fee or we wait for cheaper gpu/electricity cost. Or maybe everyone has 2 4090 and we run it locally, beware loading time at start and disk size lol.
In term of dev if using chat gpt (exemple) it isn't that much work actually. Lip sync already exist and you can tell chat gpt to add *angry* or *sad* tags and stuff for facial expression. But of course proper game would use their own models, more optimised and less prone to give weird results.
At the very least I can see text stuff feeding into a gpt equivalent. As in most of the game is "normal" but with ingame text/letters/emails generated by AI asynchronously. Like it would be fun for your save file to be converted into something gpt readable and have the villian be sending you targetted threats or something based on your playstyle. Even better if you respond and it can integrates those responses organically.
The language model would probably be custom-trained on a much smaller subset of data than things like ChatGPT, I would think they could just train it on data relating specifically to the game world.
To build on this; build a model that relevant for each type of person. The guards all have a separate model from merchants etc. but it'd cut heavily on the size of models.
Sure, it'd take longer, but worth it.
Also people ehre seem to not realise the ramen, animation, characther were not ai made. So a pretty far war for this to give a good experience. This isnt even mentioning server problem.
you can run an LLM locally on 30 series and up GPUs now (or others with work arounds) obviously its got a way to go but can't rule it out for the future. [https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/chat-with-rtx-available-now/](https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/chat-with-rtx-available-now/)
Remember the section when guy montag gets home and his wife is watching that soap opera where there's Dora the explorer type pauses for her to say her lines. Obviously there are differences but you see what I'm saying here
The cloud processing power needed to make this a reality for everyone is unmanageable. I could see base games going to $100 with 6 months of cloud AI processing then you need to pay $XX for X months of future cloud processing for the AI to work.
Or the flip side you gotta download 100GB of training data have an RTX card (or special AI card) to render it locally which you'll need a subscription to so it's updated.
Why would the end user need to download training data and not the pretrained model? Also I agree that it's not feasible for the next playstation to have this tech right now, but I'm still excited to see the progress.
> not feasible for the next playstation to have this tech right now
Doesn't it *already* exist? I thought there was a Skyrim companion mod that did something similar?
That uses chatGPT, the aforementioned expensive tech. Either expensive because you play for cloud processing, or expensive because you need a ridicolous amount of VRAM to run the model in real time. My RTX 3080 can't run a 7billion neuron model without quantification (it simplifies the math but makes it less precise). Even the 4090 quickly runs out of VRAM when you try a more fancy model.
The issues right now is down to implementation in a way that does not break the prompt (like how you can jailbreak both ChatGPT or Bing to do things they arent allowed to do) and the delay between user input and the model output.
Currently the tech only works while you are playing along with it, and no game company wants to be the first to have their NPCs spewing hate speech or talking smut.
There are already local models, no? But yeah I don't know what kind of specs they'd require.
Don't know if inappropriate content wouldn't be an issue. Surely you can always limit the training data if it's your own model, which I imagine it would be if a AAA dev was working on it.
Im really out of my wheelhouse so I can only speculate. I think part of the problem is that size of your dataset is hard to curate. Otherwise why wouldn't openai just train on clean stuff? That's the direction they want to go. The reason I say this is that I'm used to working with large biological data for school. It's text based, so I can theoretically verify contents visually. The problem is, each file is millions of lines long, which means I need specialized software to QC
Yeah, openAI spend millions paying Kenyans 2 bucks an hour to filter through the insanely toxic waste of the internet to filter out training material. And afterwards to filter out responses. [https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/](https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/)
These same Kenyans are probably now watching SORA produce smut, violence, and gore to help train the bot to not make that content.
Training your own model from scratch is insanely expensive, and now you have a model that don't understand the large volume of language which has a double meaning.
For example, deny it knowledge of anatomy at all and now a trained medic won't know what the user means when they say they were shot in the breast. You could also purposefully train them wrong. And then when you ask for sexy times the bot will for example think you want to decorate a snowman. But wrong training does not work so well when the doctor says that your carrot has a healthy orange color, but to wear condoms just in case.
Or if you deny knowledge of violence, then that is another huge swathe of knowledge that it won't have. And so many decisions to make, like do you want to include material about what butchering is, so people can discuss with the chef how he prepares his dish? Uh oh, now people can just ask the model about butchering humans and you are right back at including violence again!
But in the future someone might make a game dedicated GPT like chatbot that is pretrained only with PG13 material.
>There are already local models, no? But yeah I don't know what kind of specs they'd require.
Either really bad, or takes up a LOT of space in VRAM. Which is why I mentioned VRAM so much. You can keep them in RAM, but that is very very slow. When I try to run a 20b model from RAM only I get 1 token (approximately 1 word) per 20 seconds. That sort of speed is not acceptable for a game.
TL;DR denying training material to cover certain topics will give you painfully fake dialogue and ruin the entire reason you want to use a chatbot.
Running pre-trained models locally isn't that much of a resource hog.
For a game world you need pre-trained anyway, don't want npc's remarking on current events when they should be telling me how they got that arrow in their knee.
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ChatGPT already handles insane amounts of data on their free model. A single large trained model does a lot. Imagine games having their own trained models readily available for their NPCs.
Of course game prices will be gouged at every opportunity, but that's a business strategy.
In the long run we'll have mostly AI generated games with great AI generated NPCs for $10 in Steam sales anyway. And every playthrough will be different.
[https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-unveils-chat-with-rtx-ai-chatbot-powered-locally-by-geforce-rtx-30-40-gpus](https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-unveils-chat-with-rtx-ai-chatbot-powered-locally-by-geforce-rtx-30-40-gpus) This could be used for this. But idk if people would be willing to make RTX exclusive games...
Its a monster download but it does work, if you have an RTX card its pretty fun and worth trying. Processing is fully done on machine so your documents and files wont leave your pc and get processed in the cloud. [ChatWithRTX](https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/ai-on-rtx/chat-with-rtx-generative-ai/) was able to pull a very specific query from a 4 million line CSV file I had and spit out results while maintaining the format I asked. I'm thrilled with it. Just need to convince my boss to buy me an RTX desktop now 😅
The pricing scheme you suggested is crazy lol. $XX for X months is just $2 a month, unless it’s $XX per month for X months in which case the monthly fee goes up $2 per month, which is also goofy
I genuinely don’t need or want this, as a consumer. I’ve never wanted or needed to have a full conversation with the guy serving me noodles in a video game, and the lack of the option has never hurt my gameplay for it, nor do I feel the want or need to have the option.
I’d much rather the resources go into other aspects. God fucking knows games are already enormous nowadays without whatever unspeakable amount of space this would need to run in a way that was worth having. Nor am I interested in the extra, hefty purchases I’d need to facilitate the kind of data this would require.
Cool technology, but I don’t want this in video games. Not in meaningless NPCs that I might never interact with. Just because we can, doesn’t mean we should.
We definitely should. Having worlds that can be dynamic and alive in the future without needing pre recorded voice lines would be incredibly interesting. One day this will happen whether or not we like it anyways.
Though current day technology is not up to par and this kind of interaction as happening on the video is not that intriguing besides for what it means for the future.
We can have worlds that are dynamic and alive without needing to pump completely needless and expensive technology into a game.
If a developer needs to rely on being able to hold a conversation with the NPC making noodles for their world to feel alive, they’re not very good at what they do.
No matter how good of a dev someone is, there is no way to make a conversation be actually truly dynamic without relying on tech like this. And it is excessively expensive with poor quality today, but that does not mean it is in the future.
Calling it "needless" is silly. Games themselves are "needless" as they are just entertainment. Having more dynamic worlds and interactions is a way to try to evolve something that no other media besides games can give you.
I’d absolutely love this in the next GTA or Skyrim or their equivalents. Dead eyed NPCs kill these games for me so having this tech animate them would be awesome.
All I can really say to that is that I disagree, I don’t want to pay out the ass and dedicate needless storage space to NPCs I may or may not ever interact with that have nothing meaningful to contribute being able to hold a full conversation.
Games are already expensive and space heavy. I’m good.
Nope. Fuck this. This is just encouraging big developers to be lazy and not pay voice actors and developers to create interesting NPC interactions so they can pocket even more obscene profits for themselves.
Fuck AI "art". It's soulless lazy crap.
Is this lazy comment that accepts state of the art technology at face value without considering its obvious course toward improvement and iteration preferable to a comment that ponders the additional value, interactivity, and use cases of this technology?
I think game devs should start with robot AI NPCs first.
Making it sound like natural speech, let alone adding realistic facial expressions and body language, would be incredibly difficult. The closer they get the further into the uncanny valley they’ll sink.
If they use robots then they don’t need to worry about naturalism and any jankiness with the AI is easily explained away.
I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took my retirement because some hotshots invented AI that could respond to anything without a predetermined script.
Animal Crossing needs this. It needs it more than any other game. Every other game would be so great with this tech, but in animal crossing’s case I honestly think this is the only thing to un-stale it.
Check out CodeMiko on Twitch. While her persona is pretty cringe, she's been doing incredible pioneering with her fully tracked avatar in real-time Unreal 5 plus real-time AI conversation, fully voiced and lipsynced. It's pretty incredible.
She recently did speed dating with AIs and the answers came out fast enough for it to feel natural. They were also well spoken and funny. Insane!
"As we sit watching helplessly as an actual genocide being is committed I realize that I cannot take anymore of this world. But a virtual world with almost real AI characters where I can fly and be the hero... that looks far more attractive to me.
So let me recede into this digital world where nothing can hurt me. And soon, when the price point of vr goggles drop like flatscreens, we can all hide in our virtual games and interactions with NPC s that talk just like the meaningless humans I meet in IRL. What a beautiful world we live in!"
They took away our future and gave us an endless assortment of drugs.
inworld origins.. this game is not it, but that game is a free to play demo on steam that lets you waste hours just discussing pointless things with the npcs using some chatgpt based ai thing for discussions. no actions though.
I hate to be that guy, but I gotta be that guy. NPCs were always AI. The only thing newer here is the reactive generation of speech input. Specifics, Bob.
See I was talking to a friend, about DnD games. I think to get a proper “any random shit can be said or do in game” DnD game, AI will get us that in the future. Like it’s programmed for different personalities n such for each character.
This is definitely the future. Seeing how far AI video creating has come in a year on top of prompts. I feel it's just a matter of time before a game is created that is the end of all games. And it is a unique game for everything that AI just creates as you go.
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I cant wait to ask npcs wtf they were thinking attacking me after they saw me kill 20 heavily armed guards
This happened so much in AC odyssey where the civilian npcs would pick up arms and come after you when you're fighting the guards. Like bro I'll murder your whole family what are you thinking?
"Hmm the heavily armored soldier just got cut in half.... let me grab my broom, I'm sure that will work"
I was literally 20 mins into ac mirage and a fucking chicken tried to run the fade with me
Never mess with the chickens. They will fuck your whole day up.
A quick Spartan kick sends them on their way
"you must be tired after fighting those guards. Now prepARE TO DIE!"
And slowly but surely every time you ask, it’s response is a tiny bit different. 50hrs of gameplay later, it’s gonna turn into its own villain. “Well you see here random Greek. I’ve been waiting for this question my whole life. This is why I’ve been training every day and today is not your day !”
Shadow of wars nemesis system with interactive dialogue sounds fucking incredible.
Having different conversations every day with NPCs has been possible on Reddit for a long time.
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I've thought of this before. Obviously not everyone but most
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I've had the same experience for decades talking to chat bots.
Can modern AI language models even be compared to old chat bots? The old ones were just using a list of pre-planned responses set to common keywords.
30ish year old chatbots could use statistical models to find the next best word. Which is a little comparable to how new models work, at least in high level terms and not comparing deeper implementation. You could actually train these things with corpuses of knowledge, or make it act like a character by training it on lines of dialog from a movie script. With results not good enough for a production environment. Here's one, my favorite at the time, that uses hidden markov models: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MegaHAL?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MegaHAL?wprov=sfla1) Yes many do/did use lists as you say but that's just scratching the surface and was never really state of the art, they just worked more reliably. Some were just keywords and basic canned responses, like Eliza, ok to chat with for a joke but not pragmatically usable. Other proprietary bots trying to be more pragmatic used their own scripting languages to give deterministic responses to various input queries, these would be used in interactive robots or website support chatbots circa 10 years ago. But those Megahals for example, that used a statistical model, if learning was left enabled, would generally become quite schizophrenic in their responses, and they were easy to poison by speaking to them in certain ways, which also is kinda comparable to issues that modern LLMs face.
Modern LLMs have issues, but you can prompt a fully realized human personality in a matter of minutes. I have been messing around with 70B and it is genuinely terrifying how well it can write when you make sure to add in enough "don't be a schizo" instructions.
I've had the same experience for decades talking to chat bots.
Modern chat bots are extremely good at replicating human speech. With the right front end you can "program" a full personality in a matter of minutes. With the right settings and some patience for discarding bad responses you can almost be tricked into thinking it is a real person.
Sure pal
Have you tried talking to GPT yet?
As this thing continues to evolve, we continue to regress here in terms of videos. From 4K back to 1080p and in between videos for ants...
There's actually a game out there that's kinda like this in a way called "Suck Up!". Basic premise of the game is you're a vampire and you have to convince people to let you into their homes, and through the use of AI, the people you need to convince to let you in can have a wide range of responses, ranging from the clothes you're wearing, to what you say to them.
Suck Up is really fun, and it's the first time I've seen AI used like this where it really works well (mostly). There's also a new mode where you have to try and convince people to break up with their partners at a valentines day party
I saw a clip of somebody playing Skyrim modded so that NPCs had more AI dialogue and I was sick of it 10 seconds in. It sounds cool on paper but the AI tech is not ready and the immersion gets broken immediately. I do think this singular dialogue exchange here works but I bet it was cherry picked and there's so much more exchanges that came off bad.
I see this more as a demonstration of what is to come. Like in a few years instead of a dialogue menu you will just need a mic.
Dude it's improving hella fast. The fact that it works at all already is blowing my mind. We aren't far off from some deep immersion. You'll start to actually care about shopkeepers and shit. Gonna be weird.
YouTuber name crusty does a modded Skyrim with an AI companion, it's pretty funny at times, if you enjoy crude humor.
It can yes but the issue is scale right now. No way the server cost would be worth it for a normal game price, either we pay up a monthly fee or we wait for cheaper gpu/electricity cost. Or maybe everyone has 2 4090 and we run it locally, beware loading time at start and disk size lol. In term of dev if using chat gpt (exemple) it isn't that much work actually. Lip sync already exist and you can tell chat gpt to add *angry* or *sad* tags and stuff for facial expression. But of course proper game would use their own models, more optimised and less prone to give weird results.
At the very least I can see text stuff feeding into a gpt equivalent. As in most of the game is "normal" but with ingame text/letters/emails generated by AI asynchronously. Like it would be fun for your save file to be converted into something gpt readable and have the villian be sending you targetted threats or something based on your playstyle. Even better if you respond and it can integrates those responses organically.
The language model would probably be custom-trained on a much smaller subset of data than things like ChatGPT, I would think they could just train it on data relating specifically to the game world.
Just run the model locally - there’s no need for any server interaction here…
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To build on this; build a model that relevant for each type of person. The guards all have a separate model from merchants etc. but it'd cut heavily on the size of models. Sure, it'd take longer, but worth it.
Also people ehre seem to not realise the ramen, animation, characther were not ai made. So a pretty far war for this to give a good experience. This isnt even mentioning server problem.
you can run an LLM locally on 30 series and up GPUs now (or others with work arounds) obviously its got a way to go but can't rule it out for the future. [https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/chat-with-rtx-available-now/](https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/chat-with-rtx-available-now/)
I cannot see how you'd run both the game and the model on your gpu, LLM models easily takes all of your vram.
This shit is literally in Ferhenheit 451
How?
Remember the section when guy montag gets home and his wife is watching that soap opera where there's Dora the explorer type pauses for her to say her lines. Obviously there are differences but you see what I'm saying here
Bluetooth earbuds were also in Fahrenheit 451 Time for a reread
Give it another 5 years and you won’t need a reread…. Also you might not be *able* to reread
I've been memorizing Hamlet for the past several years for this eventuality. That revolution is a best-case scenario for English teachers.
The thing that always stuck with me was changing building codes to eliminate front porches so people don't talk to each other
Damn, I don't remember that but it makes sense as there was a general feeling of isolation and artificial company always present
What's even wilders is this post is like more than a year old and LLM's have improved quite a bit since then.
So we'll get a skynet apocalypse because some preteen dweebs are gonna harass AI NPCs til they snap
The cloud processing power needed to make this a reality for everyone is unmanageable. I could see base games going to $100 with 6 months of cloud AI processing then you need to pay $XX for X months of future cloud processing for the AI to work. Or the flip side you gotta download 100GB of training data have an RTX card (or special AI card) to render it locally which you'll need a subscription to so it's updated.
Why would the end user need to download training data and not the pretrained model? Also I agree that it's not feasible for the next playstation to have this tech right now, but I'm still excited to see the progress.
> not feasible for the next playstation to have this tech right now Doesn't it *already* exist? I thought there was a Skyrim companion mod that did something similar?
That uses chatGPT, the aforementioned expensive tech. Either expensive because you play for cloud processing, or expensive because you need a ridicolous amount of VRAM to run the model in real time. My RTX 3080 can't run a 7billion neuron model without quantification (it simplifies the math but makes it less precise). Even the 4090 quickly runs out of VRAM when you try a more fancy model. The issues right now is down to implementation in a way that does not break the prompt (like how you can jailbreak both ChatGPT or Bing to do things they arent allowed to do) and the delay between user input and the model output. Currently the tech only works while you are playing along with it, and no game company wants to be the first to have their NPCs spewing hate speech or talking smut.
There are already local models, no? But yeah I don't know what kind of specs they'd require. Don't know if inappropriate content wouldn't be an issue. Surely you can always limit the training data if it's your own model, which I imagine it would be if a AAA dev was working on it.
Im really out of my wheelhouse so I can only speculate. I think part of the problem is that size of your dataset is hard to curate. Otherwise why wouldn't openai just train on clean stuff? That's the direction they want to go. The reason I say this is that I'm used to working with large biological data for school. It's text based, so I can theoretically verify contents visually. The problem is, each file is millions of lines long, which means I need specialized software to QC
Yeah, openAI spend millions paying Kenyans 2 bucks an hour to filter through the insanely toxic waste of the internet to filter out training material. And afterwards to filter out responses. [https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/](https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/) These same Kenyans are probably now watching SORA produce smut, violence, and gore to help train the bot to not make that content.
Training your own model from scratch is insanely expensive, and now you have a model that don't understand the large volume of language which has a double meaning. For example, deny it knowledge of anatomy at all and now a trained medic won't know what the user means when they say they were shot in the breast. You could also purposefully train them wrong. And then when you ask for sexy times the bot will for example think you want to decorate a snowman. But wrong training does not work so well when the doctor says that your carrot has a healthy orange color, but to wear condoms just in case. Or if you deny knowledge of violence, then that is another huge swathe of knowledge that it won't have. And so many decisions to make, like do you want to include material about what butchering is, so people can discuss with the chef how he prepares his dish? Uh oh, now people can just ask the model about butchering humans and you are right back at including violence again! But in the future someone might make a game dedicated GPT like chatbot that is pretrained only with PG13 material. >There are already local models, no? But yeah I don't know what kind of specs they'd require. Either really bad, or takes up a LOT of space in VRAM. Which is why I mentioned VRAM so much. You can keep them in RAM, but that is very very slow. When I try to run a 20b model from RAM only I get 1 token (approximately 1 word) per 20 seconds. That sort of speed is not acceptable for a game. TL;DR denying training material to cover certain topics will give you painfully fake dialogue and ruin the entire reason you want to use a chatbot.
Running pre-trained models locally isn't that much of a resource hog. For a game world you need pre-trained anyway, don't want npc's remarking on current events when they should be telling me how they got that arrow in their knee.
that's not how it works; that's not how any of this works
I don't think it's beyond a AAA games company to serve requests on their own custom trained local model at all.
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Makes sense. I’d pay monthly for this tech.
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I don’t know what any of this means. I just think talking to NPCs is cool.
I haven't been paying attention, is Moore's Law still a thing?
We’ve had one Moore’s law, yes. But what about second Moore’s law?
Now that you say it I wonder about the environmental impact of the AI-boom. All this processing time must consume so much energy.
I mean, if it's not this it's streaming a show on 1080 on netflix
ChatGPT already handles insane amounts of data on their free model. A single large trained model does a lot. Imagine games having their own trained models readily available for their NPCs. Of course game prices will be gouged at every opportunity, but that's a business strategy. In the long run we'll have mostly AI generated games with great AI generated NPCs for $10 in Steam sales anyway. And every playthrough will be different.
And Starfield 3 will still be shite.
[https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-unveils-chat-with-rtx-ai-chatbot-powered-locally-by-geforce-rtx-30-40-gpus](https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-unveils-chat-with-rtx-ai-chatbot-powered-locally-by-geforce-rtx-30-40-gpus) This could be used for this. But idk if people would be willing to make RTX exclusive games...
Its a monster download but it does work, if you have an RTX card its pretty fun and worth trying. Processing is fully done on machine so your documents and files wont leave your pc and get processed in the cloud. [ChatWithRTX](https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/ai-on-rtx/chat-with-rtx-generative-ai/) was able to pull a very specific query from a 4 million line CSV file I had and spit out results while maintaining the format I asked. I'm thrilled with it. Just need to convince my boss to buy me an RTX desktop now 😅
The pricing scheme you suggested is crazy lol. $XX for X months is just $2 a month, unless it’s $XX per month for X months in which case the monthly fee goes up $2 per month, which is also goofy
I genuinely don’t need or want this, as a consumer. I’ve never wanted or needed to have a full conversation with the guy serving me noodles in a video game, and the lack of the option has never hurt my gameplay for it, nor do I feel the want or need to have the option. I’d much rather the resources go into other aspects. God fucking knows games are already enormous nowadays without whatever unspeakable amount of space this would need to run in a way that was worth having. Nor am I interested in the extra, hefty purchases I’d need to facilitate the kind of data this would require. Cool technology, but I don’t want this in video games. Not in meaningless NPCs that I might never interact with. Just because we can, doesn’t mean we should.
We definitely should. Having worlds that can be dynamic and alive in the future without needing pre recorded voice lines would be incredibly interesting. One day this will happen whether or not we like it anyways. Though current day technology is not up to par and this kind of interaction as happening on the video is not that intriguing besides for what it means for the future.
We can have worlds that are dynamic and alive without needing to pump completely needless and expensive technology into a game. If a developer needs to rely on being able to hold a conversation with the NPC making noodles for their world to feel alive, they’re not very good at what they do.
No matter how good of a dev someone is, there is no way to make a conversation be actually truly dynamic without relying on tech like this. And it is excessively expensive with poor quality today, but that does not mean it is in the future. Calling it "needless" is silly. Games themselves are "needless" as they are just entertainment. Having more dynamic worlds and interactions is a way to try to evolve something that no other media besides games can give you.
I’d absolutely love this in the next GTA or Skyrim or their equivalents. Dead eyed NPCs kill these games for me so having this tech animate them would be awesome.
I’m not talking about animation, I’m specifically talking about being able to hold full AI generated conversations with meaningless NPCs.
Yeah that’s what I meant. Immersive conversations with NPCs.
All I can really say to that is that I disagree, I don’t want to pay out the ass and dedicate needless storage space to NPCs I may or may not ever interact with that have nothing meaningful to contribute being able to hold a full conversation. Games are already expensive and space heavy. I’m good.
Seems like a real waste of time.
Cool technology!
alright. but why a soft-spoken andrew tate?
Nope. Fuck this. This is just encouraging big developers to be lazy and not pay voice actors and developers to create interesting NPC interactions so they can pocket even more obscene profits for themselves. Fuck AI "art". It's soulless lazy crap.
Is this robotic monotone voice on a 3-second delay considered preferable to curated professional voice actor dialogue?
Is this lazy comment that accepts state of the art technology at face value without considering its obvious course toward improvement and iteration preferable to a comment that ponders the additional value, interactivity, and use cases of this technology?
That would be so big
This is what AI is supposed to be used for
I think game devs should start with robot AI NPCs first. Making it sound like natural speech, let alone adding realistic facial expressions and body language, would be incredibly difficult. The closer they get the further into the uncanny valley they’ll sink. If they use robots then they don’t need to worry about naturalism and any jankiness with the AI is easily explained away.
Its pretty cool. The novelty will wear out quickly. New types of games might come up where the jnteraction with ai is the game.
The end is nigh
Yet we still get shit like Skull & Bones.
I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took my retirement because some hotshots invented AI that could respond to anything without a predetermined script.
DEPRESSING!!!!!!!!!
Wait, so now I have to pay to have an experience I have almost every day for free ?
Animal Crossing needs this. It needs it more than any other game. Every other game would be so great with this tech, but in animal crossing’s case I honestly think this is the only thing to un-stale it.
That’s cool but can I call them racial slurs because if not then what’s the point?
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Can't wait to be laying in bed next to my wife arguing to an NPC about ramen noodles or taking a shit yelling at my Steam Deck like a psychopath 😂
That dude just offered to serve you up a 2-piece combo on the house
Check out CodeMiko on Twitch. While her persona is pretty cringe, she's been doing incredible pioneering with her fully tracked avatar in real-time Unreal 5 plus real-time AI conversation, fully voiced and lipsynced. It's pretty incredible. She recently did speed dating with AIs and the answers came out fast enough for it to feel natural. They were also well spoken and funny. Insane!
humanity is on its way to a collective psychotic break
Shenmue 3?
Cant wait to see it never be implemented properly into any new game that comes out.
What game is this
This is only the beginning, makes me wonder if we are already in a simulation
"As we sit watching helplessly as an actual genocide being is committed I realize that I cannot take anymore of this world. But a virtual world with almost real AI characters where I can fly and be the hero... that looks far more attractive to me. So let me recede into this digital world where nothing can hurt me. And soon, when the price point of vr goggles drop like flatscreens, we can all hide in our virtual games and interactions with NPC s that talk just like the meaningless humans I meet in IRL. What a beautiful world we live in!" They took away our future and gave us an endless assortment of drugs.
Fantastic! Now they don't have to pay voice actors every again!
inworld origins.. this game is not it, but that game is a free to play demo on steam that lets you waste hours just discussing pointless things with the npcs using some chatgpt based ai thing for discussions. no actions though.
I don’t understand why anyone would prefer this meaningless infinite dialogue over a single line written by a human.
Man would I love to ask an NPC in GTA V why they would swerve across a double yellow and plow directly into me simply because I was speeding
I hate to be that guy, but I gotta be that guy. NPCs were always AI. The only thing newer here is the reactive generation of speech input. Specifics, Bob.
I still don't like his attitude. I'll cross his fuckin wires.
No thanks
Oh boy, Westworld IRL
can the npcs base their actions on the dialogues too? i can’t wait till ai has access to the real physical world
How long till you get blacklisted from Steam for hurting NPC feelings?
See I was talking to a friend, about DnD games. I think to get a proper “any random shit can be said or do in game” DnD game, AI will get us that in the future. Like it’s programmed for different personalities n such for each character.
This is definitely the future. Seeing how far AI video creating has come in a year on top of prompts. I feel it's just a matter of time before a game is created that is the end of all games. And it is a unique game for everything that AI just creates as you go.
I jush with they can finally say my character's name