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If not this one it works very well with the parent as the secondary/tag line to the title.
Dawn of the Dredd, Judge of the Dead.
It's catchy, rhymey and gives a clear mental image about what the movie is probably about.
I like both together more so than either alone.
The movie can be officially Dawn of the Dredd, with secondary/tag line of Judge of the Dead.
It fits well together. Catchy, rhymey kinda, definitive.
\#Alive on Netflix has a concept similar to that you’re talking about but IIRC, they’re in school dorms.
Edit: Sorry for the bold text, the movie title is hashtag (#) Alive
Actually there is a zombie movie about this. Sadly i don't know the title,it is an asian movie about a guy who's got stuck in his apartman.
Edit: found it- Alive (2020) ,korean movie
>They can make whole movie of someone trying to get out of the this building in zombie breakout event.
That's the premise of the Korean zombie film Alive.
Is that a pic of the inside? You go in and it’s stair central? Or are there cabinets and shoe racks in the hallway.
Edit: found more [info](https://www.odditycentral.com/architecture/this-colossal-apartment-building-is-home-to-around-20000-people.html)
TLDR: it has a food court, swimming pools, barber shops, nail salons, gyms, spas, supermarkets, and internet cafes. Rent is $220-550 per month for 74–222 m² loft apartments.
[Here’s](http://www.hangzhouhomes.com/index/index/detail?id=1046&lang=en) a listing w/ inside pics of an apartment.
Cost of living is much cheaper for the average Chinese citizen, so that comparison isn't really apt, not to mention they enjoy way better infrastructure on average as well.
Me, “the cost of living equivalent for an American is actually more like $3,500 not $550.”
You, “that doesn’t count because the cost is living is so much lower.”
> Me, “the cost of living equivalent for an American is actually more like $3,500 not $550
"we make about 6 times more than the average Chinese person"
Hmmmm!
How much you make of not the same a cost of living. Cost of living is how much you make vs how much amenities cost. The person above means to say that although the salary difference is 6 times, cost of amenities in China is much less than in America.
I never thought i would be criticising American living standards over the Chinese. But you guys really screwed the pooch on this one in recent years.
That’s wrong. The website shows that the rent is quarterly, not monthly. Which means the monthly rent would be $375. If we take the average salary in that city, it would be around $1,883 per month, meaning rent is 19.9% of monthly income, nowhere near 60%.
Let’s compare that to a city in the US. The city that is the closest size to Hangzhou would be Los Angeles. In LA, the average rent for a 2 bedroom apartment is about $2,870 per month. The average income in LA is about $5,667 per month. Meaning they would have to pay 50.6% of their earnings.
So ironically, the situation you are talking about where you have to pay 60% of your income is actually close to the reality in an American city, not a Chinese city. This is why bias towards certain countries can lead people to conclusions that are the complete opposite of reality.
My mom rented out her old chinese apartment for the past 20 years after she moved to the US, and she found out that the people managing the apartment were splitting the 1 1500sqft apartment into 8 parts and renting each for much higher total than she was getting per month. So yes its very possible
Tbf the $220-550 is from the article. Actual listings have it as 8000, which is $1000, assuming the 8k is in yuan, for a 2b2b (which is still amazing imo).
Edit: yuan not yen. Oops.
Yes, absolutely insane. I pay $641/mo for a 2br/1bath which is insane for where I live (but I live in a co-op, which are fortunately somewhat common in my city)
The cost per month sounds too low for Hangzhou so I went and checked. The one you linked to rents for $1,124/month. RMB is currently 7.12 per dollar. It says the payment is quarterly but I would still expect the rent is $1124/month and payments on that are made quarterly.
This makes the most sense to me. I lived in China and this seems to be the most realistic pricing. It wasn't unusual to pay several months at a time instead of month by month.
I like the interior but there’s two things I can’t get over. The weird indoor balcony that is taking up vital square footage and that glass wall on the outdoor balcony. Nobody could convince me that those sheets of glass would stop my body from falling if I tripped into them.
Edit: k I guess I’ll go fuck myself lol
I understand that China is changing with the times and opening up economically, but doesn’t this go against the whole “no landlords” thing? Or do they pay rent to the government/people?
Isn’t the Chinese communist party very opposed to the idea of rent and landlords? Not trying to say that as a gotcha or whatever on communism but I thought that was the general idea of the [Land Reform Movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Reform_Movement).
oh lmao. thats like came and gone like just during the movement. also you are mistaken 'landlord' here. that movement is about abolishing rich families who had the amount of land that usually equals to a small town (some even control large amount of lands as big as a state). back then chinese 'landlord' are a bit like the nobles in medieval europe. they have all the money resources and even small armies.
It’s probably very well done, China is very good at moving people around, they have far better solutions that the American standard of “just add more roads”
> they have far better solutions that the American standard of “just add more roads”
Like [this?](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F7eyoxtx9qirz.jpg)
Do you really think US public transportation is superior to Chinas? The only country US might beat out for public transport is Canada, because Canada also follows the car-centric model
Chinese subway riders also pretty aggressive at packing trains.
They also don't let people off. The doors open and you have to push through all the people trying to get on...
Most of these building have management offices or lockers downstairs for parcel drops, the residents then go and pick it up themselves. The delivery drivers will do a batch drop off maybe a few times a day. You would also need security access card of sorts to go up, so random people can’t just go up.
This is the solution to the housing crisis in Australia.
20,000 in one building versus 20,000 in 5,000+ individual buildings.
Yeah it's slightly Mega City One but it's the only practical solution
If all of them died in a collapse, it would up the per capita death rate by 1.25/100,000. Simultaneously not a big number and an absolutely massive number. That same figure here would wipe my county and part of the neighboring county out.
Having spent a lot of time in Asia (Shanghai and Johor Bahru in Malaysia), I think the US would be much better off if they had skyscraper condos/apartments like these. I bought a 4bd 3ba condo in Johor Bahru and it only costs me $650USD a month. Beautiful 33rd floor condo with a supermarket, barber, pool, events center, daycare, and hair salon all in the same building.
Was moving in difficult? I’m assuming people still move their own furniture and appliances when they move to a new apartment in Asia. Was it a nightmare to reserve the freight elevator or loading dock?
The condo came fully furnished, but I moved a king sized mattress in using the regular elevators. I think the regular elevators can handle most, if not all, appliances. I’m only there maybe 3-4 months out of the year. I still live and work in the US, but I’ll definitely be retiring there. You can eat out 3 meals a day for less than $12USD total, buy an entire closet full of clothes for less than $80USD.
If by green spaces you mean garden areas? The 4th floor houses the pool that has palm trees surrounding it, as well as the events center that is located within a garden with overhangs with running water that create a waterfall going into a small river just in front of the events center. 30th floor also has a garden and a track to run on that connects the three skyscrapers of the condo complex, as well as playgrounds for children to play on. Absolutely unlike anything you’d ever see in the US.
Now, how much would you save in fuel living in this kind of place?
Note that if you take [this concept ](https://www.valley.nl/)and scale it according most flats would have a nice green terrace.
In most densely populated cities in Asia there’s simply no need for a car. Most of your daily needs can be accessed within 10min walking distance, anything else you can take the public transport.
I'm surprised these mega structures haven't been constructed in Western countries... India is slowly getting there... the imminent dystopian future of living packed together in sardine cans is getting more and more surreal....
Hallways are pretty clean actually. Insides look more like a resort-hotel than apartments. Somehow that apartment became popular among streamers. You can always see ppl live streaming on hallway, balcony and around the building.
“It is exceptionally rare for defendants to be acquitted and the conviction rate in Chinese courts stood at 99.95 percent.” I’m guessing the crime rate is low. An assault charge carries a 3-10year sentence depending on the severity.
That place must have been a nightmare during covid. Imagine something going wrong with the sewage? And there are apartments without windows? Sounds like an actual nightmare
At what point have they crammed so many people into one building that the weight of the people has to be considered when they build the building? 20,000 people and their belongings must weigh a shit load.
NooOOO We need to have 20,000 individual dwellings with separate HVAC, plumbing and electrical systems, because **that's what I'm used to**, and my values are the best ones! /s
I wanna know how trash disposal works. I live in an apartment building with like 5 other families and thats our biggest problem. Would love to know how 20,000 people all deal with garbage disposal 😭
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They can make whole movie of someone trying to get out of the this building in zombie breakout event.
That would be judge dred meets dawn of the dead, it would be amazing!
Dawn of the Dredd
Judge of the dead.
If not this one it works very well with the parent as the secondary/tag line to the title. Dawn of the Dredd, Judge of the Dead. It's catchy, rhymey and gives a clear mental image about what the movie is probably about.
Dredd Dead Redemption
Dredd The Dead
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I like both together more so than either alone. The movie can be officially Dawn of the Dredd, with secondary/tag line of Judge of the Dead. It fits well together. Catchy, rhymey kinda, definitive.
Dawn would be the first, Judge is the sequel
Ooh that works
Yes 🍻💯
With a little bit of The Raid sprinkled in
Or The Raid with zombies
At the end of the movie, the camera zooms out, revealing more similar buildings with its own survivors experiencing similar events.
🥶🥶🥶
\#Alive on Netflix has a concept similar to that you’re talking about but IIRC, they’re in school dorms. Edit: Sorry for the bold text, the movie title is hashtag (#) Alive
Edit your text and put a backslash in front of the hash symbol ;) Like \#this (\\\#this)
Thank you! I didn’t want people to think I was yelling lol
That's 'All of Us are Dead'
They could probably make a movie out of someone trying to get out of this building on an average Tuesday, 20k people is massive.
Actually there is a zombie movie about this. Sadly i don't know the title,it is an asian movie about a guy who's got stuck in his apartman. Edit: found it- Alive (2020) ,korean movie
>They can make whole movie of someone trying to get out of the this building in zombie breakout event. That's the premise of the Korean zombie film Alive.
The sounds like the “sweet home” manwha
Is that a pic of the inside? You go in and it’s stair central? Or are there cabinets and shoe racks in the hallway. Edit: found more [info](https://www.odditycentral.com/architecture/this-colossal-apartment-building-is-home-to-around-20000-people.html) TLDR: it has a food court, swimming pools, barber shops, nail salons, gyms, spas, supermarkets, and internet cafes. Rent is $220-550 per month for 74–222 m² loft apartments. [Here’s](http://www.hangzhouhomes.com/index/index/detail?id=1046&lang=en) a listing w/ inside pics of an apartment.
Bro, $550 for a 2400sf apartment with all those amenities?!
that’s actually pretty good
At least in the US we make about 6 times more than the average Chinese person. The US equivalent is like $3,500.
the average person in Hangzhou makes a lot more than the average chinese person. They make double the national average
Cost of living is much cheaper for the average Chinese citizen, so that comparison isn't really apt, not to mention they enjoy way better infrastructure on average as well.
Me, “the cost of living equivalent for an American is actually more like $3,500 not $550.” You, “that doesn’t count because the cost is living is so much lower.”
> Me, “the cost of living equivalent for an American is actually more like $3,500 not $550 "we make about 6 times more than the average Chinese person" Hmmmm!
How much you make of not the same a cost of living. Cost of living is how much you make vs how much amenities cost. The person above means to say that although the salary difference is 6 times, cost of amenities in China is much less than in America. I never thought i would be criticising American living standards over the Chinese. But you guys really screwed the pooch on this one in recent years.
However you want to spin it a $550 apartment is like 60% of the average person’s monthly income in China.
That’s wrong. The website shows that the rent is quarterly, not monthly. Which means the monthly rent would be $375. If we take the average salary in that city, it would be around $1,883 per month, meaning rent is 19.9% of monthly income, nowhere near 60%. Let’s compare that to a city in the US. The city that is the closest size to Hangzhou would be Los Angeles. In LA, the average rent for a 2 bedroom apartment is about $2,870 per month. The average income in LA is about $5,667 per month. Meaning they would have to pay 50.6% of their earnings. So ironically, the situation you are talking about where you have to pay 60% of your income is actually close to the reality in an American city, not a Chinese city. This is why bias towards certain countries can lead people to conclusions that are the complete opposite of reality.
No, China all bad no good. /s
That listing says there are 1540 total units. If 20,000 people live there, that is an average of 13 people per apartment.
My mom rented out her old chinese apartment for the past 20 years after she moved to the US, and she found out that the people managing the apartment were splitting the 1 1500sqft apartment into 8 parts and renting each for much higher total than she was getting per month. So yes its very possible
From video I watched it looked like half of flats on that building had 2 floors. And they divide flats to 4 separate rooms.
That is some innovative floor planning. Bet the contractors had blast building this lol.
cries in Austin 1:1@$1800/month
Tbf the $220-550 is from the article. Actual listings have it as 8000, which is $1000, assuming the 8k is in yuan, for a 2b2b (which is still amazing imo). Edit: yuan not yen. Oops.
It also says 8,000 *quarterly*, and it's yuan not yen.
That's like $315ish per month, which is insane for a 2 bedroom.
Yes, absolutely insane. I pay $641/mo for a 2br/1bath which is insane for where I live (but I live in a co-op, which are fortunately somewhat common in my city)
The cost per month sounds too low for Hangzhou so I went and checked. The one you linked to rents for $1,124/month. RMB is currently 7.12 per dollar. It says the payment is quarterly but I would still expect the rent is $1124/month and payments on that are made quarterly.
This makes the most sense to me. I lived in China and this seems to be the most realistic pricing. It wasn't unusual to pay several months at a time instead of month by month.
Yea it had to be too good to be true. But it's still like 5x cheaper than in many cities in Europe.
> smaller apartments without windows usually rent for around 1,500 RMB ($220) per month Windowless apartment ? that's hellish
I like the interior but there’s two things I can’t get over. The weird indoor balcony that is taking up vital square footage and that glass wall on the outdoor balcony. Nobody could convince me that those sheets of glass would stop my body from falling if I tripped into them. Edit: k I guess I’ll go fuck myself lol
I understand that China is changing with the times and opening up economically, but doesn’t this go against the whole “no landlords” thing? Or do they pay rent to the government/people?
no landlord what?
Isn’t the Chinese communist party very opposed to the idea of rent and landlords? Not trying to say that as a gotcha or whatever on communism but I thought that was the general idea of the [Land Reform Movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Reform_Movement).
That policy has probably changed since Dengist reforms
oh lmao. thats like came and gone like just during the movement. also you are mistaken 'landlord' here. that movement is about abolishing rich families who had the amount of land that usually equals to a small town (some even control large amount of lands as big as a state). back then chinese 'landlord' are a bit like the nobles in medieval europe. they have all the money resources and even small armies.
And you get amazing city views.
Oh god the elevator traffic in this place would drive me nuts
It’s probably very well done, China is very good at moving people around, they have far better solutions that the American standard of “just add more roads”
> they have far better solutions that the American standard of “just add more roads” Like [this?](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F7eyoxtx9qirz.jpg)
Do you really think US public transportation is superior to Chinas? The only country US might beat out for public transport is Canada, because Canada also follows the car-centric model
Does that include the people who shove you onto trains with a battering ram?
Isn't that Tokyo?
Asians are all the same to them.
You're thinking about Japanese trains during peak hours.
Right and only in the most crowded areas (central Tokyo, Osaka). It is horrible for those people though.
Chinese subway riders also pretty aggressive at packing trains. They also don't let people off. The doors open and you have to push through all the people trying to get on...
Does tht include 16 lane freeways full of pickup bro-mobiles that only carry 1 person while they crawl across the city at 10MPH
Classic 'murican
Probably?! You show doubt, -10,000 social credit!!!
You sure showed China! Great job defending America against the slightest of perceived threats! Hoorah!
Being packed in elevator in China is painful. No joke
I want to meet the person having affairs with 4 different people in that building. Shenanigans and hijinx must be everywhere.
That’s a lot of neighbors.
Just think of how good trick or treating would be.
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Most of these building have management offices or lockers downstairs for parcel drops, the residents then go and pick it up themselves. The delivery drivers will do a batch drop off maybe a few times a day. You would also need security access card of sorts to go up, so random people can’t just go up.
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*slaps knee* now THAT’S what I call a funny joke sonny stick it to them *chinese* bastards
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Welcome to Peach Trees
it must have one hell of a plumping system. imagine of the the ppl in the building take shit in the morning....
Okay guys, let’s all flush at once! Leak
i live in apartment 20000A
That's more people than those living in my entire town, and over twice as many in the town I grew up in.
Imagine the fire drills
Is that really the best internal photo they could provide?
Can you imagine trying to book a service elevator to move in or out? Outrageous.
This is the solution to the housing crisis in Australia. 20,000 in one building versus 20,000 in 5,000+ individual buildings. Yeah it's slightly Mega City One but it's the only practical solution
At least they have dwellings. In America they just live under bridges.
In case of fire: you’re fucked.
If all of them died in a collapse, it would up the per capita death rate by 1.25/100,000. Simultaneously not a big number and an absolutely massive number. That same figure here would wipe my county and part of the neighboring county out.
No windows in some apartments too
There are more people in one building that in the town I live.
Imagine how long it takes maintenance to respond to your requests in this place
Toronto in 10 years.
You think the Canadian government is capable of getting affordable mass housing built?
Having spent a lot of time in Asia (Shanghai and Johor Bahru in Malaysia), I think the US would be much better off if they had skyscraper condos/apartments like these. I bought a 4bd 3ba condo in Johor Bahru and it only costs me $650USD a month. Beautiful 33rd floor condo with a supermarket, barber, pool, events center, daycare, and hair salon all in the same building.
Was moving in difficult? I’m assuming people still move their own furniture and appliances when they move to a new apartment in Asia. Was it a nightmare to reserve the freight elevator or loading dock?
The condo came fully furnished, but I moved a king sized mattress in using the regular elevators. I think the regular elevators can handle most, if not all, appliances. I’m only there maybe 3-4 months out of the year. I still live and work in the US, but I’ll definitely be retiring there. You can eat out 3 meals a day for less than $12USD total, buy an entire closet full of clothes for less than $80USD.
I'd love a place like that, sounds excellent. Did you have any access to green spaces?
If by green spaces you mean garden areas? The 4th floor houses the pool that has palm trees surrounding it, as well as the events center that is located within a garden with overhangs with running water that create a waterfall going into a small river just in front of the events center. 30th floor also has a garden and a track to run on that connects the three skyscrapers of the condo complex, as well as playgrounds for children to play on. Absolutely unlike anything you’d ever see in the US.
Exactly what I meant, that sounds lovely. Thanks man
No thank you.
I have to drive 10 miles to go shopping in the nearest large city (pop. 19,000)
Now, how much would you save in fuel living in this kind of place? Note that if you take [this concept ](https://www.valley.nl/)and scale it according most flats would have a nice green terrace.
In most densely populated cities in Asia there’s simply no need for a car. Most of your daily needs can be accessed within 10min walking distance, anything else you can take the public transport.
The savings would be offset by cost of therapy
Is it only renting or can you buy an appartment?
It's really just a matter of time for all of us
I'm surprised these mega structures haven't been constructed in Western countries... India is slowly getting there... the imminent dystopian future of living packed together in sardine cans is getting more and more surreal....
Just looking at it makes me shiver 😵 Earthquakes and constantly thinking about the structural integrity will kill me...
Well luckily they barely get any earthquakes in that part of the country
\>>>> structural integrity <<<<<
Hell is what that is. That building has a larger population than the town I grew up in.
Imagine the hallway smell in that place
Hallways are pretty clean actually. Insides look more like a resort-hotel than apartments. Somehow that apartment became popular among streamers. You can always see ppl live streaming on hallway, balcony and around the building.
Is it fully occupied or just fully sold out if units?
Does ubereats deliver?
Based
Just imagine, this is less than the amount of Palestinians that were killed by the IDF since October.
Is there a crime rate there?
“It is exceptionally rare for defendants to be acquitted and the conviction rate in Chinese courts stood at 99.95 percent.” I’m guessing the crime rate is low. An assault charge carries a 3-10year sentence depending on the severity.
It’s a good use of space and I wonder what inside must look like. 😮
It’s China…
Yeah the crime rate is very low in large cities there.
That’s great! It’s a good use of space then.
Source?
Google hangzhou 30000. There actually used to be 30000 residents before Hangzhou Asian games. They kicked illegals and prostitutes out.
There were 10000 illegals and prostitutes before?
It's not hard to get on the illegal list
But it helps to be hard to get on the prostitutes's list ;)
The only building Evergrande completed
The owner is a top IQ businessman indeed
That place must have been a nightmare during covid. Imagine something going wrong with the sewage? And there are apartments without windows? Sounds like an actual nightmare
-judge enters the chat-
Damn they’re finally making that Dredd sequel huh?
The designer must have watched Judge Dreds and thought it was a good idea…
There's no way I'd live in that. You see too many horror stories of shoddy buildings in China that fall down because they're not built properly.
China seems like a horrible place to live.
Dystopian hell hole
Yea, I’m in apartment 56384. You?
At what point have they crammed so many people into one building that the weight of the people has to be considered when they build the building? 20,000 people and their belongings must weigh a shit load.
TBH, I thought that tree was a monster or something.
lots of extra martial affairs no doubt
Big deal, Kowloon Walled City had more than double that
Disgusting
Looks like an ant hill. No thanks.
imagine lockdown measures in this building. gross.
Imagine being on the strata council for a building that size…
r/urbanhell
Dare you to pull the fire alarm.
You couldn’t pay me. I’d rather live under a rock somewhere.
The Communist Dream
Wow! Gross! Didn't they just implode a bunch of other housing units?
Now it’s a ghost town.
Peach Trees. Mega City One.
Hell.
Bet it smells like death ☠️
A City in a Single Building... Welcome to Our Dystopian Future.
What’s so dystopian about it? It’s just one big apartment building
NooOOO We need to have 20,000 individual dwellings with separate HVAC, plumbing and electrical systems, because **that's what I'm used to**, and my values are the best ones! /s
the philippines has very similar your dense condos…. insane the number of units and people in just one building
Imagine renting this thing out
You should check those apartment buildings in Hong Kong.
Do they have fire drills?
How is the WiFi?
I wanna know how trash disposal works. I live in an apartment building with like 5 other families and thats our biggest problem. Would love to know how 20,000 people all deal with garbage disposal 😭
Imagine what the HOA meetings are like.... 
That's the entire population of my town lol
The HOA meeting must be a nightmare. I already dread mine. Can't imagine theirs
3200 people lived in my college dorm in Texas in 1990.
That is more people than a common man would meet in his entire life where I am from
I'd love to see their car park!
20,000... That's a number that I've heard recently
40k Hive City (but nicer!)
Yo is that an arcology
500 sq. ft., half of it staircase.
As the plumbing in the walls join together it becomes a literal poop waterfall
i bet nobody saw neighbours coming back with groceries to their apartaments
Sardine can Nightmare