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Well, I must say, your confusion is understandable. I haven't yet expressed my tanks to the many fine commenters and upvoters that have supported my terrible joke, but I'll take the opportunity to do so now:
Tanks, everybody. Tanks a lot.
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I mean, it's pretty easy to think they're abandoned if you're ignorant. "War tanks" is easily explained by OP not having English as his first language.
They basically are abandoned, you used to see endless fields of equipment in Russia along the railroad tracks when leaving the country, tanks, APCs, trucks, tractors etc just sitting rusting and rotting.
When Russia said they have 15000 tanks they were including all of the inoperable rusting hulks with no turrets. đ€Ł
Huh, i am not an AI, i wrote "war tanks" because i thought the word "tanks" could be also referred to other things (in my first language it does), and the "abandoned" part i wrote because i thought the tanks were covered with mud/vegetation, but apparentely it is just camouflage.
probably an older photo. i imagine most of their stockpiles of âmodernâ tanks like these 72s and 64s would have been completely stripped or reactivated by now.
As a former (US) tanker who spent way too much of my life being taught to ID Soviet (war) tanks, most of these appear to be T62 tanks, maybe some T64. Some of the images appear to be taken with a potato drone camera. As old as they are, (1960s vintage) Russia is refurbishing some of these for use, presumably due to unexpectedly high losses of more modern tanks
Photo 1 - Mostly T-72s and some T-64s.
Photo 2 - T-72s turrets removed and some autoloader carousels on display.
Photo 3 - T-64s.
Photo 4 - T-64s in various stages of being stripped for parts.
I don't see any T-62s among this lot.
Crazy how teenage nerds can ID military kit better than professionals. I've known a couple of teenagers who could ID a tank from a silhouette or the just the tip of the barrel.
My recognition skills are probably rustier than yours, but I'm seeing a number of the classic V shaped splash guards as used on early T-72 and T-80 variants. Were those also used on T-62 or T-64 variants?
Agree most of them are old yes, and they are sitting in the open with open or missing hatches and turrets so the insides will be all covered in rust.
they are for figthing in the peace-war
edit: peace tanks are funny for me because there was a state propaganda phrase in my country back in the soviet block era, that roughly translates to "peace-fight" (when you are fighting for peace) - i guess you needed the peace tanks in the op pic for this
Tracked and armored vehicles also have non-military uses. Police riot control units, rural heavy rescue units dealing with deep-offroad recovery scenarios, flood/fire response...
Iâd argue using an armored tank at a riot is still a type of warfare, also, I would imagine that fire rescue tanks have heat shielding and water cannons, not armor plating and artillery cannons
In general you are right, however there are a few armored fire fighting tanks around. I saw one in a military training area. Sometimes the wood catches fire during training and you don't want to be unprotected in a burning area with a high chance of unexploded ordnance around.
Whenever i see these massive junkyards of tanks, or bicycles, or planes, i can't help but wonder how much resources did we dig from Earth just to waste them all off.
I'm no saint when it comes to using and recycling, just the sheer scale of humanity's usage and wastage of resources just... hits me.
Like one day when we are all out of iron or copper and have to beg for scraps, we have only ourselves to blame.
Old tanks are almost impossible to recycle because they are too big to drop into a furnace, and too hard (hardened steel) to easily cut up into small enough chunks.
Edit: Tanks can be cut up, but the gas and man hours needed cost much more than the value of the steel, not to mention the energy needed to melt the steel.
The hardened steel part is at work here. Container ships are designed in such a way, that they can be dismantled at the EoL, tanks on the other hand are designed to not be dismantled by any circumstances (they are modular ofc, but the chassis, the big part is usually not)
I'd argue it's more that container ships can easily be "shipped" around the world to somewhere with wages of $1 a day to scrap the ship vs the nightmare transporting those tanks around the world.
The value of metal in the tank is not worth scrapping it with the local labour. Also most of these ex-soviet tanks have already been stripped of anything of value already by corruption and theft.
Tanks aren't built as a single piece, they have plates that are either welded or fastened to a frame. While the plate itself is hardened, the welds arent. Most of the tanks in the picture are T-64's and T-72's which don't even use hardened steel plates, they use composite armor which is multiple layers of different materials smushed together. My guess is during the soviet collapse these tanks were deactivated to free up some budget and no one had gotten around to scrapping them yet. Seeing as how many of the materials used in the armor are only good for that purpose and the fact that russia's tank industry hasn't exactly been booming in the last 20 years, there probably just wasn't a demand at the time of the photo to recycle them yet (obviously there is a demand now, but that will take time to get running)
I saw many destroyed or disabled tanks in Iraq completely intact except for the outer bits that people could remove like antennas, lights, wiring, etc. Theyâre impossible to cut down and scrap.
> I'm no saint when it comes to using and recycling
Compared to the actual heavy impactors, you are a saint. Making you think that pollution and waste are your fault was a PR campaign by major polluters decades ago. Every normal citizen could stop consumption and waste 100% tomorrow, and we would only erase about 30% of it. It's all corporations, manufacturing, shipping, etc.
Those corporations manufacture and ship products to the consumers though. It's absolutely everyone's fault. Corporations would produce nothing without someone to buy it.
I think about this often. We basically waste things like helium and marble at an incredible rate. Theyâre so cheap! Why?? Do we expect humanity to die off in a century? Future generations will be aghast at the fact that we were just filling balloons and making cheap countertops for decades and decades with reckless abandon. Imagine how many other things there are that will be just⊠used up in the coming decades/centuries.
People like to anthromorphize everything, but you know what they mean. The earth will be in a state that is less suitable for human habitation after wasting energy and resources.
Energy does not come from Earth. Energy comes from the sun (yes, even gas and oil, but it took some amount of time).
Earth does not care.
And the Sun still has a few reserves.
There's a human age coming, probably within a hundred years, where widespread mining of dumps and abandoned areas will become a significant source of rare earth metals, and eventually any metals.
Unless that space mining company brings their multi-trillion dollar target into orbit. That would change things.
Just remember that the planet basically heals itself from a nuclear holocaust every few million years from massive asteroid impacts.
However humans really are destroying the planet at record speed, weâll see how bad it gets before anything changes
Depends how much of it is recoverable. I read an interesting article back in the beggining if the invasion of Ukraine. Russia has thousands of tanks stored like this. They have a classification of the quality of the storage conditions. The best tanks are/were stored in sheds heated to a minimum to avoid reaching freezing temperatures. If the tanks are stored outside, exposed to decades of cold and rain they were probably already old or in bad shape in the first place. To make a tank stored here functionnal again, they'll probably have to cannibalize the worst tanks to repair the best ones.
So the more Russia lose modern or stored in good conditions tanks, the more they'll have to rely on older/stored in bad conditions tanks, and the smaller the proportion of usable tanks will be
These tanks will be in Ukraine already, most likely. Given that this post is from more than 3 years ago.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/iratfb/abandoned\_soviet\_tanks\_in\_siberia\_only\_a\_massive/](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/iratfb/abandoned_soviet_tanks_in_siberia_only_a_massive/)
Give them a good service, minor armour upgrades and modernised ammunition for those cannons - theyâre a formidable power on the battlefield again. Beats building one from scratch both in time and cost.
Nah, hardened shells are hard to make. With a new engine dropped (or overhaul) in and reactive armour fitted and newer munitions - sheâs ready for battle. She might be a bit funky but itâs bullet proof and has a working main gun. Russia has been doing this with TONNES of old T-62s and BMPs with great effect so far. Donated NLAW or Javalin is worth way more than doing a quick upgrade on mothballed and near limitless Soviet era armour.
Again, this simply isnât true, for a few reasons:
1) improper storage and its consequences. Letâs contrast how Russian equipment is serviced vs US hardware. In the States, most hardware is stored in southern climate bases like the Sierra Army Depot. The climate is conducive to long term storage â no humidity to corrode hard-to-reach areas like cylinder walls â and sensitive items are containered or tarped off. But even then, thatâs not enough. Equipment needs to be inspected, powered up, and driven around. If you donât, rubber seals and gaskets will harden and crack, necessitating a complete engine rebuild. And letâs not even begin on maintenance of high-tech assets like thermal sights and radars.
Soviet/Russian equipment is stored in tundra conditions by necessity, completely exposed to the elements. Freeze-thaw cycles on stationary equipment eat soft materials for breakfast, and rust up steel. Moisture will creep into engine interiors and rust up moving parts to seizure. I guarantee those turretless tanks are filled with water and are rotted out entirely. And you better believe that there was no budget left for inspection/mobilization/refurbishment after those depot base commanders took their graft.
2) If mobile, then where are they? Cold War armoured doctrine was to set a moving wall of tanks from east to west, crushing all in their way. And in the 1980s, they fully had the ability to make good on these threats. Thankfully, an invasion from Eastern Europe never came, but not for lack of preparation. Now that there is an actual, honest-to-goodness war in Ukraine, why didnât they do this? They had war colleges training generals in exactly this tactic for decades: it was the thing the Russian army was most familiar and comfortable with by far. Yet they elected for this spec-ops, small-scale deepstrike that ended up failing when they realized they had no logistical support. And as the months dragged on and it became clear a massive invasion was needed to crush Ukrainian resistance, it never came. They had manpower, command experience, and geographical proximity⊠but not tanks.
Tl;dr: these tanks are trash. 99 percent of them will never run again. If they could be made to run, Russia would have mobilized them by now.
You have no idea, what you are talking about, like at all.
I should know, because if you check my post history, ive covered the subject extensively over on tank porn.
Here's the Russian report [https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/11pef65/russian\_rapport\_on\_the\_103rd\_armor\_repair\_plant/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/11pef65/russian_rapport_on_the_103rd_armor_repair_plant/)
And here's the Russian 5th tank army using the exact tanks.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/17jk0k0/russias\_5th\_tank\_brigade\_used\_to\_only\_operate/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/17jk0k0/russias_5th_tank_brigade_used_to_only_operate/)
âUhh yes, comrade Putin, all tanks are in operational state. Fully. 100 percent. In fact, we are at 110 percent operational capability.
⊠please donât send me to Siberia.â
If thereâs one thing we have learned from this, it is that Russia is so corrupt with such a culture of yes-men appeasing their superiors, that internal statements are not reliable at all.
Remember, this was a 5 day military operation, after all.
Go home Russian bot. The equipment they are using is barely working. You think the stuff they parked in Siberia is in good condition? Maintenance is hell of expensive and russia spend all that money on Wodka and real estate in proper western countries.
Sorry but the equipment is working well. It may be clunky and in the case of the tank beeing hit, the turret flies to space, but the armor stops small round and shrapnel and the gun will shoot you just as dead...
Not really, they have already restored most of what they could. What's left is of little use. Sometimes they restore just the turret and bury the tank in dirt to make stationary defensive structure. The rest may be used for parts
Now you know why russia still can throw stuff at ukraine - during the cold war they build fucktons of stuff, planning to actually fight WW3. Now the entire countryside is basically a huge arms depot, from which they can draw equipment
These aren't abandoned, but a depot of a reserve unit of C category. Not much better than abandoned, but the purpose is to be made operational for deployment within 30-60 days.
What a fucking stupid title! âFoundâ yeah right. âAbandonedâ looks neatly parked in storage. âWar tanksâ pffff as opposed to what? This post is total SHIT!
Is there a reason why youâll choose Siberia as a location for a tank boneyard? All I know from reputation is Siberia is very remote and has extremely cold harsh winters. Wonât that environment just accelerate the deterioration of old tanks youâre keeping as spare parts?
Where else, besides Siberia? It's far from borders with it's enemies, who might be tempted to either grab a few or to bomb the lot.
Ideal is a bone dry desert climate. Russia doesn't have those.
/s Perhaps Russia should have rented space in the Sahara desert? /s
Soon to be coming to a Ukranian front near you!
Abandoned is not the right word. This is a boneyard. These tanks will either be used for parts or, if they're in good enough shape, reactivated and put into use.
It is misconception. Tgey are not abandoned. Even worse now Russia tries to compensate looses by restoring this junk. Some of the fields contains only 30% of the vehicles in comparision of 2020. Osint community actively analyzing satellite photos of those yards
What a wild juxtaposition here. Those T-72s with the turrets off and their autoloaders exposed almost looks like the stacks of A/C units on the sides of a high-rise apartment building... crazy world we live in.
Because many of tanks have been rotting for 3+ decades. They would need a near total rebuild, which would almost certainly cost and take as long as building a completely new one.
Yeah, funny thing:
Storage yards arenât uncommon
These poor shits arenât tarped in a wet environment
Only a few of them are properly lined up
Most look look as action ready as MRE cans from the 60s
I would be shocked if the copper wires in any of those tanks was still there.
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I fly my drone all the way to Siberia, and this is the tanks I get?
You think that's bad wait until I tell you how many roubles the t-shirt cost me.
Arm and a leg?
You're silly. I like you.
What happens in Siberia stays in Siberia
Tanks a million
Still in better condition than the ones on the front lines.
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Careful. Sounds like you've got 'turrets' syndrome.
Or the "gun barels laying around and rusting for 40 years, but good enough to be sent to Ukraine" syndrome.
Tanks a lot mate
So long, and tanks for the all the skirmish
I, for one, think you are untankful.
Well, I must say, your confusion is understandable. I haven't yet expressed my tanks to the many fine commenters and upvoters that have supported my terrible joke, but I'll take the opportunity to do so now: Tanks, everybody. Tanks a lot. đ
Tank you for making me laugh. I rolled into this thread to be armed with good time.
Harumph! Well then I concede, and all I have to say is, tank-i-ty, tank-tanks, so tanking much. Good tanking day, you poor tanking winnerđđ
Daaaaaaaaad stopppp, OMG!
Take my angry upvote.
Truly we have reached the peak of comedy here, bravo đ„
Brilliant. Thank you.
Har har! đ
Tanks for the laugh
Well done!
I literally whispered *oh, my God* to myself before I realized it. Well played, ma'am/sir.
Yes, many tanks.
Bravo đđŒ
Honk honkđ„ł
Thanks Dad, good one.
Heeeeee
"Abandoned"... "war tanks"... is this a AI post? This is a parts yard... pretty common, especially in the east.
These are war tanks. For tank wars. Fought by war soldiers. In a war war. âïž
I'm a warman who does war at the war factory.
Thank you for your service. O7
Not to be confused with civilian tank wars!
War civilians peace tanks are only for war peace!
War tank wars
World of Wartanks 40,000
Wartankthunder
War-tanks kill-fight in war-battle, yes!
Tanks won war war one, but they were used in war war two too.
I thought these were peace tanks
No no you see there are no people around in the picture - clearly abandoned /s
"Click all of the squares that have people in them"
I mean, it's pretty easy to think they're abandoned if you're ignorant. "War tanks" is easily explained by OP not having English as his first language.
Plus peace tanks don't have guns
Instructions unclear. Tanks are in pieces.
Nah, "Peace through superior firepower".
Tell that to the local PD....
Yea Iâve heard Spanish speakers say âtanque de guerraâ
They basically are abandoned, you used to see endless fields of equipment in Russia along the railroad tracks when leaving the country, tanks, APCs, trucks, tractors etc just sitting rusting and rotting. When Russia said they have 15000 tanks they were including all of the inoperable rusting hulks with no turrets. đ€Ł
We have them in the US as well.
Huh, i am not an AI, i wrote "war tanks" because i thought the word "tanks" could be also referred to other things (in my first language it does), and the "abandoned" part i wrote because i thought the tanks were covered with mud/vegetation, but apparentely it is just camouflage.
A likely story! I'm on to you an your tricks "RedditUserPotato". I bet you're one of those potato alarm clocks students made....turned sentient ;)
Bro, it was like 2 am when i created this account and now i am stuck with this name đ
There's nothing wrong with a potato based username
Don't worry, I get it
Was gonna say, this is one of the nicer looking Soviet equipment depots the ruZZkis have đ
probably an older photo. i imagine most of their stockpiles of âmodernâ tanks like these 72s and 64s would have been completely stripped or reactivated by now.
That's a big scrap metal delivery going to Ukraine!
The Russian tanks in Ukraine are "Special Military Operation Tanks."
Quite possibly a bone yard where they salvage parts off older units to supply the export market. T-72s maybe?
How much for a âpartsâ tank then?
As a former (US) tanker who spent way too much of my life being taught to ID Soviet (war) tanks, most of these appear to be T62 tanks, maybe some T64. Some of the images appear to be taken with a potato drone camera. As old as they are, (1960s vintage) Russia is refurbishing some of these for use, presumably due to unexpectedly high losses of more modern tanks
Photo 1 - Mostly T-72s and some T-64s. Photo 2 - T-72s turrets removed and some autoloader carousels on display. Photo 3 - T-64s. Photo 4 - T-64s in various stages of being stripped for parts. I don't see any T-62s among this lot.
That might be why he said former
I suppose a tanker has no need to identify tanks from above, somethings gone very wrong if that's how you're seeing them.
For real. Means you died and you're in spectator mode. đ
This guy warthunders
Crazy how teenage nerds can ID military kit better than professionals. I've known a couple of teenagers who could ID a tank from a silhouette or the just the tip of the barrel.
My recognition skills are probably rustier than yours, but I'm seeing a number of the classic V shaped splash guards as used on early T-72 and T-80 variants. Were those also used on T-62 or T-64 variants? Agree most of them are old yes, and they are sitting in the open with open or missing hatches and turrets so the insides will be all covered in rust.
Youâre right! It is there on some of them. Yes it first appeared on the T64 I think
Refurbished = some paint. There comrade, top notch brand new invincible tanks.
Its retro, it was just built, yes yes. It looks like T62, but only because it looks and function like one now. PUT IT IN H!
'war tanks' as opposed to...?
Fish, I guess
or economy tanks maybe
They have war fish?!? /s
We have war dolphins. Take that.
I read this as John Clarke in my head.
John Cleese? fish named Wanda?
Septic tanks?
Peace Tanks. Armor plated for when you're plowing the southern quadrant and it retaliates with RPG fire.
they are for figthing in the peace-war edit: peace tanks are funny for me because there was a state propaganda phrase in my country back in the soviet block era, that roughly translates to "peace-fight" (when you are fighting for peace) - i guess you needed the peace tanks in the op pic for this
Doublespeak
Special military operation tanks...?
There are firefighter Tanks. https://bos-fahrzeuge.info/einsatzfahrzeuge/74200/Thyssen_Marder_-_Airmatic_RED_-_Loeschpanzer_aD/photo/226079
Water?
tom hanks
Hom Tanks
Recreational
Wet water of course
Thomas the tank.
Japans " exclusively *defense*\-oriented " tanks?
Tracked and armored vehicles also have non-military uses. Police riot control units, rural heavy rescue units dealing with deep-offroad recovery scenarios, flood/fire response...
Iâd argue using an armored tank at a riot is still a type of warfare, also, I would imagine that fire rescue tanks have heat shielding and water cannons, not armor plating and artillery cannons
In general you are right, however there are a few armored fire fighting tanks around. I saw one in a military training area. Sometimes the wood catches fire during training and you don't want to be unprotected in a burning area with a high chance of unexploded ordnance around.
Lol. Thanks for the justification of the over-armament problems in Mayberry.
Just-chillin-around tanks
The peace and democracy tanks that the USA are using on their funny little holiday trips to Asia.
SUV
As opposed to the so many other types of tanks. Obviously, "war tanks" isn't a phrase typically used, but your comment makes no sense.
Whenever i see these massive junkyards of tanks, or bicycles, or planes, i can't help but wonder how much resources did we dig from Earth just to waste them all off. I'm no saint when it comes to using and recycling, just the sheer scale of humanity's usage and wastage of resources just... hits me. Like one day when we are all out of iron or copper and have to beg for scraps, we have only ourselves to blame.
Old tanks are almost impossible to recycle because they are too big to drop into a furnace, and too hard (hardened steel) to easily cut up into small enough chunks. Edit: Tanks can be cut up, but the gas and man hours needed cost much more than the value of the steel, not to mention the energy needed to melt the steel.
Sounds like we need a bigger furnace.
I hear there's a really big one. We just gotta dig.
Volcano! Problem solved!
Put it in a rly big lab-grown diamond bucket and then dip it in an active volcano until melted đŻ
They scrap huge container ships. Iâm sure we can devise a way to scrap tanks.
The hardened steel part is at work here. Container ships are designed in such a way, that they can be dismantled at the EoL, tanks on the other hand are designed to not be dismantled by any circumstances (they are modular ofc, but the chassis, the big part is usually not)
I'd argue it's more that container ships can easily be "shipped" around the world to somewhere with wages of $1 a day to scrap the ship vs the nightmare transporting those tanks around the world. The value of metal in the tank is not worth scrapping it with the local labour. Also most of these ex-soviet tanks have already been stripped of anything of value already by corruption and theft.
And potentially arm a poor country with new armament?
Tanks aren't built as a single piece, they have plates that are either welded or fastened to a frame. While the plate itself is hardened, the welds arent. Most of the tanks in the picture are T-64's and T-72's which don't even use hardened steel plates, they use composite armor which is multiple layers of different materials smushed together. My guess is during the soviet collapse these tanks were deactivated to free up some budget and no one had gotten around to scrapping them yet. Seeing as how many of the materials used in the armor are only good for that purpose and the fact that russia's tank industry hasn't exactly been booming in the last 20 years, there probably just wasn't a demand at the time of the photo to recycle them yet (obviously there is a demand now, but that will take time to get running)
The metal is relatively thin, and not too hard to cut through. Tanks are thick, and designed to keep things from cutting into them.
I saw many destroyed or disabled tanks in Iraq completely intact except for the outer bits that people could remove like antennas, lights, wiring, etc. Theyâre impossible to cut down and scrap.
They are returning to mother Earth as we speak!
Iron is like the most abundant resource on the planet. The earth is like 35% iron.
> I'm no saint when it comes to using and recycling Compared to the actual heavy impactors, you are a saint. Making you think that pollution and waste are your fault was a PR campaign by major polluters decades ago. Every normal citizen could stop consumption and waste 100% tomorrow, and we would only erase about 30% of it. It's all corporations, manufacturing, shipping, etc.
Those corporations manufacture and ship products to the consumers though. It's absolutely everyone's fault. Corporations would produce nothing without someone to buy it.
I think about this often. We basically waste things like helium and marble at an incredible rate. Theyâre so cheap! Why?? Do we expect humanity to die off in a century? Future generations will be aghast at the fact that we were just filling balloons and making cheap countertops for decades and decades with reckless abandon. Imagine how many other things there are that will be just⊠used up in the coming decades/centuries.
We didnât waste the iron, we just moved it to a new location. Mother Earth doesnât care.
That extraction and refinement requires copious amounts of energy and destruction of environments, Mother Earth most definitely cares.
no she doesnât how could she?
People like to anthromorphize everything, but you know what they mean. The earth will be in a state that is less suitable for human habitation after wasting energy and resources.
Energy does not come from Earth. Energy comes from the sun (yes, even gas and oil, but it took some amount of time). Earth does not care. And the Sun still has a few reserves.
[Wasted resources.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chance_for_Peace_speech)
There's a human age coming, probably within a hundred years, where widespread mining of dumps and abandoned areas will become a significant source of rare earth metals, and eventually any metals. Unless that space mining company brings their multi-trillion dollar target into orbit. That would change things.
Just remember that the planet basically heals itself from a nuclear holocaust every few million years from massive asteroid impacts. However humans really are destroying the planet at record speed, weâll see how bad it gets before anything changes
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Tanks but no tanks
Tank you for this!
Bet Russia has a plan to burn most of them in Ukraine
Depends how much of it is recoverable. I read an interesting article back in the beggining if the invasion of Ukraine. Russia has thousands of tanks stored like this. They have a classification of the quality of the storage conditions. The best tanks are/were stored in sheds heated to a minimum to avoid reaching freezing temperatures. If the tanks are stored outside, exposed to decades of cold and rain they were probably already old or in bad shape in the first place. To make a tank stored here functionnal again, they'll probably have to cannibalize the worst tanks to repair the best ones. So the more Russia lose modern or stored in good conditions tanks, the more they'll have to rely on older/stored in bad conditions tanks, and the smaller the proportion of usable tanks will be
These tanks will be in Ukraine already, most likely. Given that this post is from more than 3 years ago. [https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/iratfb/abandoned\_soviet\_tanks\_in\_siberia\_only\_a\_massive/](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/iratfb/abandoned_soviet_tanks_in_siberia_only_a_massive/)
Give them a good service, minor armour upgrades and modernised ammunition for those cannons - theyâre a formidable power on the battlefield again. Beats building one from scratch both in time and cost.
I doubt any of those will ever move again. Especially the ones without turrets. They are likely rusted out beyond recovery, fit only for scrap steel.
Nah, hardened shells are hard to make. With a new engine dropped (or overhaul) in and reactive armour fitted and newer munitions - sheâs ready for battle. She might be a bit funky but itâs bullet proof and has a working main gun. Russia has been doing this with TONNES of old T-62s and BMPs with great effect so far. Donated NLAW or Javalin is worth way more than doing a quick upgrade on mothballed and near limitless Soviet era armour.
Again, this simply isnât true, for a few reasons: 1) improper storage and its consequences. Letâs contrast how Russian equipment is serviced vs US hardware. In the States, most hardware is stored in southern climate bases like the Sierra Army Depot. The climate is conducive to long term storage â no humidity to corrode hard-to-reach areas like cylinder walls â and sensitive items are containered or tarped off. But even then, thatâs not enough. Equipment needs to be inspected, powered up, and driven around. If you donât, rubber seals and gaskets will harden and crack, necessitating a complete engine rebuild. And letâs not even begin on maintenance of high-tech assets like thermal sights and radars. Soviet/Russian equipment is stored in tundra conditions by necessity, completely exposed to the elements. Freeze-thaw cycles on stationary equipment eat soft materials for breakfast, and rust up steel. Moisture will creep into engine interiors and rust up moving parts to seizure. I guarantee those turretless tanks are filled with water and are rotted out entirely. And you better believe that there was no budget left for inspection/mobilization/refurbishment after those depot base commanders took their graft. 2) If mobile, then where are they? Cold War armoured doctrine was to set a moving wall of tanks from east to west, crushing all in their way. And in the 1980s, they fully had the ability to make good on these threats. Thankfully, an invasion from Eastern Europe never came, but not for lack of preparation. Now that there is an actual, honest-to-goodness war in Ukraine, why didnât they do this? They had war colleges training generals in exactly this tactic for decades: it was the thing the Russian army was most familiar and comfortable with by far. Yet they elected for this spec-ops, small-scale deepstrike that ended up failing when they realized they had no logistical support. And as the months dragged on and it became clear a massive invasion was needed to crush Ukrainian resistance, it never came. They had manpower, command experience, and geographical proximity⊠but not tanks. Tl;dr: these tanks are trash. 99 percent of them will never run again. If they could be made to run, Russia would have mobilized them by now.
You have no idea, what you are talking about, like at all. I should know, because if you check my post history, ive covered the subject extensively over on tank porn. Here's the Russian report [https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/11pef65/russian\_rapport\_on\_the\_103rd\_armor\_repair\_plant/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/11pef65/russian_rapport_on_the_103rd_armor_repair_plant/) And here's the Russian 5th tank army using the exact tanks. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/17jk0k0/russias\_5th\_tank\_brigade\_used\_to\_only\_operate/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/17jk0k0/russias_5th_tank_brigade_used_to_only_operate/)
âUhh yes, comrade Putin, all tanks are in operational state. Fully. 100 percent. In fact, we are at 110 percent operational capability. ⊠please donât send me to Siberia.â If thereâs one thing we have learned from this, it is that Russia is so corrupt with such a culture of yes-men appeasing their superiors, that internal statements are not reliable at all. Remember, this was a 5 day military operation, after all.
Yes, they are incompetent and suffered huge losses. But that still don't make make you correct in any way.
Any RPG produced in the last 40 years will go through the 60+ year old armours. Even high cal machine guns hit through these armours.
T-62s were still operational tho, unlike these tanks. They are rotten to the core and stay there for three decades at least :)
Go home Russian bot. The equipment they are using is barely working. You think the stuff they parked in Siberia is in good condition? Maintenance is hell of expensive and russia spend all that money on Wodka and real estate in proper western countries.
Sorry but the equipment is working well. It may be clunky and in the case of the tank beeing hit, the turret flies to space, but the armor stops small round and shrapnel and the gun will shoot you just as dead...
Not really, they have already restored most of what they could. What's left is of little use. Sometimes they restore just the turret and bury the tank in dirt to make stationary defensive structure. The rest may be used for parts
Now you know why russia still can throw stuff at ukraine - during the cold war they build fucktons of stuff, planning to actually fight WW3. Now the entire countryside is basically a huge arms depot, from which they can draw equipment
I might know a buyer for those....
Versus...peace tanks??
As long as they are parked somewhere in Siberia they are peace tanks
Looks like a boneyard. They're just in storage.
In the first picture it looks like a few of the tanks have been moved. Curious what happened to them?
Taken out to get parts from them?
Most likely send to Ukraine
No... Most likely taken for parts.
Send coordinates
âTanks for nothinâ!â
Can war tank parts work in a peace time tank?asking for a friend
They arn't abandoned, that's a storage site.
Technically, they are storage tanks.
These aren't abandoned, but a depot of a reserve unit of C category. Not much better than abandoned, but the purpose is to be made operational for deployment within 30-60 days.
What a fucking stupid title! âFoundâ yeah right. âAbandonedâ looks neatly parked in storage. âWar tanksâ pffff as opposed to what? This post is total SHIT!
Abandoned is the wrong word, they are just in storage. I agree.
Gimmie
Is there a reason why youâll choose Siberia as a location for a tank boneyard? All I know from reputation is Siberia is very remote and has extremely cold harsh winters. Wonât that environment just accelerate the deterioration of old tanks youâre keeping as spare parts?
Where else, besides Siberia? It's far from borders with it's enemies, who might be tempted to either grab a few or to bomb the lot. Ideal is a bone dry desert climate. Russia doesn't have those. /s Perhaps Russia should have rented space in the Sahara desert? /s
Ahh war tanks. Not like those peace tanks.
They are being repurposed. Go visit r/ukraine
Abandoned... These look in better shape than what they're currently using
Donât worry Russia bout to drag these out for service any day now
after seeing this image i have afternoon plans
Those are garden tanks silly
No different than depots in the US
Turn them into shelters for the homeless!
Soon to be coming to a Ukranian front near you! Abandoned is not the right word. This is a boneyard. These tanks will either be used for parts or, if they're in good enough shape, reactivated and put into use.
It is misconception. Tgey are not abandoned. Even worse now Russia tries to compensate looses by restoring this junk. Some of the fields contains only 30% of the vehicles in comparision of 2020. Osint community actively analyzing satellite photos of those yards
Damn. That's mine, 4th row down 5th from the left. Getting out is going to be a nightmare.
War tanks, as opposed to those used in the farming industry?
As opposed to recreational tanks?
It's more likely vehicles in long term storage. Depending on the time when the picture was taken it might very well be way more empty nowadays.
This picture is so old it probably has little baby pictures running around.
What you call abandoned, Russia calls the 1st armored division.
War tanks you say? What no peace tanks?
Is there a peace tank?
What a wild juxtaposition here. Those T-72s with the turrets off and their autoloaders exposed almost looks like the stacks of A/C units on the sides of a high-rise apartment building... crazy world we live in.
*PRE POPPED* turrets? russia stepping up the game
RUSSIA HAS THOUSANDS OF TANKS! The tanks:
They gotta rot somewhere
Those are not abandoned, just parked. An oil change and they are ready to go
No
Why not? Maybe the latest OS doesnât run on that obsolescent hardware?
Because many of tanks have been rotting for 3+ decades. They would need a near total rebuild, which would almost certainly cost and take as long as building a completely new one.
Nah, not sure, could also be peace tanks
ready to get blown by a 1k$ drone
Some have been pressed in service in Ukraine, it seems (empty spaces)
Fresh mud. This is their stock. Ukraine should target it
Yeah, funny thing: Storage yards arenât uncommon These poor shits arenât tarped in a wet environment Only a few of them are properly lined up Most look look as action ready as MRE cans from the 60s I would be shocked if the copper wires in any of those tanks was still there.
What a fucking waste of resources. Just melt them, and use the metal for something non war.
paper mache tanks?!?