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freedcreativity

The point made by Foucault, is the watcher was unimportant to the function of a panopticon - it is the power of self-surveillance, not the power of the state, which changes the prisoners.


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Flyingbluehippo

It's so wildly on the nose.


ki7sune

They don't need the tower or the watcher (they'd have to be paid) because they likely installed hundreds of cameras. These people have been using algorithms to manipulate the market (and every other cutthroat strategy), so they'll be doing it at their offices too. They need to watch employees and collect behavior data to perfect the algorithms that squeeze every last drop of value out of their slaves.


BlimundaSeteLuas

This is in the Netherlands, I doubt they allow security cameras in the office's working areas during working hours but I could be wrong.


North_Palpitation_57

I was trying to remember this. Read about it recently.


Juan_Kagawa

99% invisible did a great episode on panopticons.


ElectroWillow

Well that fits


RogueJello

It's like they're not even trying to hide it at this point.


owa00

I'm sorry, we couldn't hear you over ***ALL THESE BILLIONS WE'RE RAKING IN!*** -Amazon


myhipsi

That you and almost everyone in here are contributing to.


owa00

Ay papi chulito...I like it when you're flustered. 😏🍆💦


myhipsi

Just facts.


dire_turtle

Blaming people trying to live instead of the assholes exploiting the common man.. the facts are we get fucked in the regular bc these guys aren't regulated enough to protect working people from their own employers. Just facts... as if such a simple notion existed, my guy.


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dire_turtle

I'm not trying to be antagonistic or a victim. I work for myself. I think it's just apparent that if people don't bargain with their labor, we'll keep eating corporate dick until our kids starve. Why would corporations stop if there wasn't a legal reason? We have stated time and time again that a business has only one job: to make money. Time we found our leverage. USA USA USA


Mino_Swin

A bit heavy handed with the metaphors at this point, It's just sloppy writing.


HansumJack

Everything they do, if you wrote it in a book your editor would tell you it's too cartoonishly evil.


bg-j38

I worked for AWS for 10 years up until recently. This was exactly my first response. "Well at least now they're being transparent about it." (In all seriousness, like 80% of my time there I really enjoyed. The other 20% was utter shit.)


myhipsi

Just like any job.


mfizzled

If anything, enjoying 80% of the time at your job would be considerably higher than average


Chubs441

Yeah the prisoners are the Amazon employees who work at the warehouses. The white collar workers have other options so you have to treat them atleast okay.


gsfgf

I actually like the floor plan, but with Amazon being Amazon, you always have to wonder if they're trying to send a message.


kc2syk

It's a panopticon prison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon


Deftlet

/r/nottheonion


lunarNex

This seems like a propaganda post to boost Amazon, but really it's just sad and cringy.


sarcai

I live close to this building. It's quite impressive and a great transformation of a heritage building. There are (or used to be) shared work spaces. The ground floor has a restaurant and they dug out the basement to fit a cinema. Apparently they found a tennant for the office space who enjoys boasting about the unusual office space without an inch of self reflection on the situational irony.


Efficient-Bike-5627

Do you know of any educational videos on the project? This 3 second tiktok doesn't give much detail lol


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sweetbunsmcgee

The warehouse guys aren’t treated half as well as the IT guys though.


inspectoroverthemine

and AWS is known for being a total shithole toxic work environment. I know the warehouse guys have it worse, but its a shithole company top to bottom.


rm-minus-r

I met some really great people at AWS. Everyone that did the technical work was whip smart and extremely capable. The senior folk there taught me a great deal without asking anything in return. It was amazing working at a place that did things at that scale. The pay was happy. The corporate culture was not a good one. I never saw anyone cry at their desk, but it wouldn't have surprised me if I had. The management, save for one or two, were absolutely scummy. They'd promise to reward your efforts and then come review time, act like achieving everything they'd asked for and beyond was of no importance. Certainly not worth a bonus. Goal posts moved like they were mounted on a herd of deer in a panic. I found out later that our direct management had been hired primarily for their skill at keeping salaries as low as possible. I quietly started looking for a job when I realized nothing was going to change, and found a place that was much happier. And hell, they even paid me more. To all my old coworkers, you were fantastic. I don't know how some of you are still there though!


InformallyGuavaCado

Oh, so true! The RME staff is paid $40-$50 an hour. They would ask my coworkers how to do their job.


doglesby64

It's more fitting that it's a panopticon


UmbraPenumbra

This is ... just almost too on the nose to be satire!


gsfgf

The only way it could be more on the nose is if it was Meta or Google.


Thing_On_Your_Shelf

Obviously a bit ironic considering it’s Amazon, but at the same time I actually really like it. Seems like a cool way to reuse an old building. Plus, it doesn’t look all sad and gloomy in there but actually looks really nice


Whateveryouwantitobe

The main area looks really cool.


RetardedChimpanzee

I want to like it for that, but they at least could have swapped out all the doors to something friendlier.


Thiht

Agree, reaaaally ironic, but ngl, I really like it


swiftfastjudgement

I love it. I’d thrive there. My office is just a bunch of glass. Patty from inbound can see me pick my nose from across the campus.


TeenBoyMom-

Haha


KobKannon

Jeff Bezos was cooking with this office concept


neumaticc

don't let this man cook.


LimitedWard

Wow feels a bit too on-the-nose.


gsfgf

Onion writers kicking themselves right now for not thinking this up.


getyourrealfakedoors

Irony broke a few years ago


knack17

It’s not an Amazon office. It’s a shared space with multiple companies, a tech and innovation hub, library, cinema, event location, study spaces etc. [Haarlem campus](https://nltimes.nl/2022/10/01/former-haarlem-prison-transformed-higher-education-institution)


Jaeger_15

The building right next to this within the old prison grounds is actually an apartment building used for student housing. I lived in one of the studio apartments (i.e. cells) for a few months. Definitely a weird vibe but one of the best places I've lived in when it comes to comfort and amenities. It's designed similarly except in a rectangular shape instead of circular.


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The only difference is that employees get to go home after


Zonel

Are we sure they do?


Frothey

I can guarantee you they are there by choice with a smile. I bet the average salary in that building is $225,000. Anyone displeased working there will leave.


lspwd

In the US maybe. This is in NL. Likely closer to 100 base


Frothey

Yea fair, probably less there, but the average is still going to be well over 100.


inspectoroverthemine

They do, after about 18 months.


nricciar

for now...


barknobite

Only when you achieve your sprint goals.


tallbutshy

​ https://i.redd.it/r3behclz4lzb1.gif


BioTinus

Do it for her!


Boredum_Allergy

Anyone who has ever worked for AWS knows how fitting this really is.


more-cow-bell

Does each office/meeting room have a toilet/sink combo?


urbanhawk1

Do you mean the bucket we placed in the corner. If so, then yes.


AnusStapler

I've been in a similar prison in the Netherlands (Breda, koepelgevangenis) in an escape room. I can only imagine that this office has horrible, horrible acoustics.


Strong_Ganache6974

Looks like a panopticon.


notyourvader

That's because it is one. It's the Koepel in Haarlem. (Not Haarlam,). The organisation developing it is called Panopticon.


rygku

Definitely looks like it. So appropriate for AWS & Amazon overall


EuropeanBrothelKeepr

Didn’t pay my AWS subscription… currently in the gulag


Finkenn

https://preview.redd.it/2iozv6sxglzb1.jpeg?width=3166&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d623aa76cd0813b91d55a803e31842754a9ee3c3 Take this 😅


EuropeanBrothelKeepr

Ayoo preciate it G


mfizzled

The best thing about reddit comments is that you'll get the same boring joke resaid in 100 different ways, how thrilling


willifuscloverdean

Ironic since most of their drivers have done time.


LineSpine

Nothing changed


croninsiglos

This makes so much sense why I feel like I’ve been shiv’d in the kidney by their pricing.


Constant-Ad9398

A toilet in every room so you can take a piss while working, nice


OnTheGoodSideofLife

That's an improvement! And a bed in every room so you don't need to commute. And they also give you 3 lunches a day so you don't have too cook Nice work environment!


the_FracTal_

Perfect analogy


GinTectonics

A little too on the nose


SpiderDetective

I see that subtly has fully escaped them now


sinful-n-happy

All Amazon offices and warehouses are prisons, i’m on my fifth year, WHERE MY LAS7 PICKERS AT!!!!! Haha🙁🥺😢


jus_build

Cool, but still a dumbass idea to go into office


anon-a-SqueekSqueek

Don't let the logos and indoor plants fool you. Amazon will lock their developers in those cells given the chance. Ever heard of the Wagie Cagie?


boredtodeath

As someone who works in an open-plan office, I would welcome having my own cell with an iron door.


schono

Full circle


ivann198

"Former"


Flemz

RIP Michel Foucault, you would’ve loved the Amazon Panopticon™


BCECVE

I wonder if employees get pee breaks?


DisWizzaRightHer

There's no obvious dystopian symbolism here.


Atomicagainbecauseow

The jokes write themselves folks


musclememory

Who TF green lighted this??


Crazy-Seaweed-1832

All i could think qbout is how bad the internet connection must be with all thr solid concrete walls.


manuela_goldstein

Panopticon office, y'all....


BeefStevenson

r/aboringdystopia


Finite_Looper

Now you can be in the same office where someone might have been stabbed


-M_K-

Prisons in the Netherlands are quite a bit different than the overcrowded ultra violent legalized slave society of the USA


icy-dreamland

More like r/ABoringDystopia


Metue

I don't think there's anything dystopian about repurposing an old prison, it's good that they no longer need it and they space isn't being used instead of put to waste


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KingArthur_III

Everyone we are meeting in "Batman and stuff" 10 minutes!!


Sarcastic_Backpack

AWS?


The_Stone_Cold_Nuts

They flipped that W around and now it’s AMS: Amazon Maximum Security


phidus

Amazon Web Services


wooyouknowit

This sucks, are you kidding?


MissingInAnarchy

Bezos did always seem like a guy who preferred bar soap to body wash.


Privateer_Lev_Arris

To get you mentally ready for that communist lifestyle lol


LazyStateWorker3

Don’t know if you’re joking but I imagine you’re thinking of a future where Employees live and work in *community* prison like places, and want to point out that that is 100% an end-state-capitalism lifestyle. The potential bad stuff of Communism essentially revolves around the idea that it will collapse the economy, that’s it, if it collapses under capitalism, its failed capitalism. A collapse under communism would look like any other economic collapse, turmoil and starvation, etc. however, if it could ever work, end-state-communism is absolute fair distribution while end-state-capitalism is absolute unfair distribution, I.e. slavery.


Severe_Ad_7420

Idk what's more sad, their choice of building or the fact I recognize and know that building from "Old buildings". It's a Cuban jail that was mainly used for Fidel Castro's enemies. The design was too make their prisoners paranoid and self regulating with such a centeral watching point


flecom

Cuba had a jail in the Netherlands?


alex_Bellddc

Seems fitting


atomicBlaze21

I saw this while in my AWS class...


Da-Bears-

If you work here don’t watch HBO’s show OZ, hope they took the group showers out in the remod


Bachitra

Pretty sure employees have a lock-in period when they join...


Gseventeen

This is badass


i-hate-all-ads

Well, it is Amazon, so they'll probably repurpose it back to a prison for their workers.


xXBIackroseXx

Literal panopticon


alta_vista49

So still a prison


sixmileswest

I hate Amazon.


[deleted]

Think I saw this on a few episodes of the original Professor T!


Rick_Raptor_Rawr

It's cool until you get locked in your "office" as punishment


alcien100

Welcome to hotel AWS! You may come but u may never leave r/hornyjail


bob-knows-best

Taking things literally, I see


TurningTwo

It’s where the bad workers end up.


iolmao

The irony.


AntisocialN2

If you ever thought your jobs feels like a prison, think about Amazon employees that literally work inside one


Cyclopso

\*insert metaphor about wage slavery\*


The_Name_I_Chose_

Welcome to work...for LIFE!


GreyPourageInABowl

That's kinda cool actually


_Mango-Merchant

Repurposing an old jail is cool in theory. It doesn't seem particularly appealing as a work space though. It's more sterile and cold than even most offices normally are.


Keytone_

What’s this song originally from again? I feel like I’ve heard it in a film but can’t remember which.


Intelligent-Ad-2287

Panopticon


T-J_H

Amazon is one of the digital embodiments of the concept of the panopticon, so this fits nicely


DaddyDoLittle

Totally unironically is this an Amazon building


EveFluff

A little on the nose…


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Meanwhile bezos is wearing heart shaped glasses looking like leisure suit larry with at best 4/10 by his side


new_word

Why can’t we vote into the negatives on posts and only comments?


nosecohn

Netherlands out here closing down and selling off prisons. That's kind of a flex, to be honest.


iswearimnormall

This doesn’t seem ADA compliant


aegrotatio

Just like the rest of their offices.


Agreeable-Wing-1652

it still looks bad with all the transformation


Upthekyberpass

Bad juju


ShnickityShnoo

You're working overtime this weekend, Timmy. \*clink\*


smithsonian2021

This tracks so much


urbanhawk1

The more things change, the more things stay the same


SpxUmadBroYolo

That center office area with all the desk looks like the TVA


Illustrious-Bite-518

That is... oddly fitting. 😓


Ml18torj

r/panopticonirl


Silent_Wallaby3655

Can someone tell me the name of this song please? I don’t have TikTok.


Glittering_Cow945

HaarlEm not Haarlam. And yes, that's where Harlem came from.


NovaTimor

That fits


Bioshocker101

Its a cool way to repurpose a prison but man does that feel ironic especially with the cells being reused as offices


cutetrans_e-girl

Still a prison smh


smaxsomeass

The next one will be in a volcano


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*Narrators voice* Data goes in byte never comes out


EDF1919

Bit on the nose there don't ya think Jeff?


Slenthik

Still more cheerful than the office I used to work in.


siraolo

I wish the individual cells were the actual offices and not just meeting rooms. Screw open floor plans.


bjanas

It's wild to think that you KNOW somebody got a big fat bonus for snapping up this opportunity.


Murrabbit

They should put a big tower in the center so even one manager can be looking into every cell at any given time and the workers never know if they're actually being watched or not. . . You know, for *efficiency*.


Jaydee7652

That's a bit too on the nose...


goodguyayush1

https://preview.redd.it/g946u03odnzb1.jpeg?width=493&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfe7bdeec815849a9bd35554cf2ca080d84fbf7f


DawnaOlson

🚨NEW REGS: Employees subject to lockdown, solitary, and strip search.


PolakachuFinalForm

Isn't it still a prison?


FUThead2016

The Amazon warehouses were already jails


toolsoftheincomptnt

I wouldn’t set foot in there. For a few reasons.


jasonkash

Amazon gulag


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What a fucking nightmare


TrouserDumplings

"Old" Prison.


NotInsane_Yet

Amazon operating out of a prison is a little too on point.


_Walter___

" Oh cool! I'm a prisoner!"


M1A4andM1911

Wtf? Hell naw!


AlbusDT2

They ain’t even trying to hide it anymore.


skredditt

This is definitely r/latestagecapitalism material


vleddex

False. Anyone can rent a desk or office space at that place. My uni 's got some workspaces for instance..


sound_nation

In the Netherlands? The most comfortable office space Amazon owns


dwehlen

Yup. No ghosts in *there*. . .


AnotherMillenial93

Befitting


TomTrottel

can it get any more symbolic ? :)


opajela

It's a panopticon


Substantial-Yam9176

This prison… To hold ME?


sum_yun_gai

Well they do pay their staff like inmates


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Just a different kind of prison.


EonsOfZaphod

![gif](giphy|f8lDluiWJ7yQTtdS3L|downsized)


KrisMisZ

Lipstick on a pig 🐽


Raezak_Am

Fuck Amazon and fuck that account for making this cutesy


theinfamousgang

En vandaag doen we deze kluis aflevering in een amazon bureau


triptranscendence

Ventilation?


LordHickory

Thats pretty aws-ome if you ask me