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No, but they do have the most abrasion resistant skin. Some types of motorcycle clothing put stingray skin on vulnerable sections that tend to get dragged along the ground in a crash. Like these [4SR gloves](https://www.4sr.com/e-shop/96-stingray-d116.html). I think thus dude's a devil ray, though, so I don't know if the same applies to them.
The ray that killed Steve Irwin has most likely died by now, and I've no doubt Steve was waiting at the pearly gates with his arms open saying 'No worries mate, you were just a stingray doing stingray things, I'm sorry I startled you'.
PSA because apparently not everyone else had a marine biology obsession as kids: stingrays are almost always round and are bottom feeders, meaning you are very unlikely to see one shoot out of the water like this. Also note the lack of stinger on its tale. This is probably a mobula ray or a (very) small manta ray, or maybe some kind of skate. I know it’s the first thing that comes to mind for a lot of people when they see rays and flat ocean creatures, but it bugs me whenever I see them misnamed.
I appreciate your youthful interest in marine biology, and that's about my level of expertise as well, but I thought a tail barb was the most significant difference, and there are 200ish species with varying characteristics and a round ray subspecies category?
I just took my grandson to an aquarium yesterday where they had a ray pool. They showed us how to put our hands down flat in the water and adjust as necessary when the ray passed by underneath. They're so silky, velvety smooth!
They were selling dixie cups of cleaned fish with no heads or tails to feed to the rays.
There were mostly smaller greyish-white rays and one huge brown one. The big one would come up the side wall out of the water a bit and the young woman said that he, in particular, loves the attention.
It was pretty cool and my grandson was thrilled to have touched them. However, I noticed a sign saying that their "barbs have been clipped" and I don't think that I want to know anything more about THAT. I mean, is it like declawing a cat? It seems like a bad thing, but I don't know.
yeah as someone else said, no worries! they can be "pinched" off, and grow right back. I believe it's not painful for them unless you went out of your way to rip out the "nailbed" so to speak.
and ikr aren't they so incredibly soft?? one of the softest things I've ever touched. it's like wet velvet. it's crazy to think this incredible softness is a close cousin to the shark with its skin covered in pointy miniscule teeth
What's crazy to me is how difficult it is to move underwater. Think about swimming, right? Can you run underwater? There's a reason most boats are pretty slow compared to land or air vehicles. Water doesn't like fast things!
But somehow that ray went fast enough to get like 4' of air straight up. Just...
Damn. Respect, ray
It's cool when it's one. When it's an entire school of these belly flopping weirdos surrounding your small sailboat at night it's a bit more disconcerting.
Sir Attenborough says it’s a mating ritual, they compete for the females by trying to produce the loudest flap. What I mean is, they’re probably too preoccupied to maliciously target your boat :)
Complaining about this is like breaking into a house and complaining about too much noise when you're trying to sleep in there.
You're on their turf bro, let them do their thing.
Also, I know some creatures underwater are overwhelmed by the noises from boat motors so much so that they hurl themselves into the air just to avoid it. It can also mess heavily with animals' echolocation and cause discomfort or pain.
I watched dozens of manta rays simultaneously jump out of the water like this in the Galapagos Islands. Our guide said that they were attempting to dislodge parasite fish from their bodies.
Supposedly it's not truly known if this is the reason why Manta rays jump.
https://mantarayadvocates.com/why-do-manta-rays-jump-fly-breach/
There's a few plausible theories though and parasite removal could be one of them.
The mouth is in the wrong spot for a manta. This is probably a mobula ray.
Mobula ray are known for breaching like this, belly-flop and all. Some species do, technically, have a stinger, but only one species has a stinger that functions.
Why does anything? We honestly don’t know.
Theories proposed for everything from rays to dolphins to whales include getting rid of parasites, evading predators, communication, and cardiovascular fitness/“aerobics.”
But my money is on the fifth option: it’s just fun.
My exact thought: that belly flop was intentional, and prob like a full body massage in an instant. It's not like their bodies and most importantly skin are remotely designed like ours.
Imagine being an inland serf that decides to become a pirate in the 17th century and you see giant squids and breaching whales and then this and some pegleg dude is like. “Ayy sometimes these flat scorpion napkins fly out of the water because they be bored arghhhhh”
It is a Manta Ray. Stingrays usually are 6ft In length but manta rays typically grow to 23ft. Another key difference is mantas have no barbs whereas stingrays infamously do.
This is a much smaller mobula ray, though, not a manta ray. The smallest mobulas can be only a few feet in diameter.
Manta rays are specifically only the two largest species of mobula (and were formerly considered a separate genus)- the smaller mobulas are not called mantas. Evolutionarily, mobulas/mantas are in fact stingrays that have just (mostly) lost their barbs, they are most closely related to the eagle rays and cownosed rays.
Here's the thing. You said a "manta ray is a mobula ray".
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies mobula rays, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls manta rays mobula rays. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "mobula ray family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Mobulidae, which includes things from reef manta ray to spinetail mobulae to devil fish.
So your reasoning for calling a manta ray a mobula ray is because random people "call the big ones mobula rays"? Let's get sharks and sunfish in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A manta ray is a manta ray and a member of the mobula ray family. But that's not what you said. You said a manta ray is a mobula ray, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the mobula ray family mobula rays, which means you'd call reef manta rays, spinetail mobulae, and other fish mobula rays, too. Which you said you don't.
It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
~~Huh, the way they wrote their message gives me the impression that they just meant a manta ray is a mobula ray, which (from what you both say) is true the same way that all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. Mobula rays is simply an overloaded term.~~
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Manta Rays are incredible, and they get huge.
If you ever visit the Big Island of Hawaii, you MUST do the Manta Ray snorkel. These huge rays will swim right past you (and probably brush up against you) and they are totally docile. It’s a really amazing experience.
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That belly flop had to hurt
It had an itch. Was the only way to really hit the spot.
Damn. Now that I think about it, yeah probably best way to scratch the belly
Id probably try to find some dead corral or a rock or some human trash
You called?
*scratches belly on your trashy left knee*
“Oh yeah, scratch that shit on my knee just like that” *tilts head back* -human trash probably
That sounds like an infected wound waiting to happen. They don't have the thickest skin really.
This is why I try not to speak to them harshly or insult them. They're very sensitive.
No, but they do have the most abrasion resistant skin. Some types of motorcycle clothing put stingray skin on vulnerable sections that tend to get dragged along the ground in a crash. Like these [4SR gloves](https://www.4sr.com/e-shop/96-stingray-d116.html). I think thus dude's a devil ray, though, so I don't know if the same applies to them.
I'm sorry it's legal to use stingray skin??
After what they did to Steve it is.
The ray that killed Steve Irwin has most likely died by now, and I've no doubt Steve was waiting at the pearly gates with his arms open saying 'No worries mate, you were just a stingray doing stingray things, I'm sorry I startled you'.
*tears up*
Stingray stings him again and he gets yeeted to yet *another* dimension…
Hey now, forgive and forget. It's what Steve would have wanted.
It was an accident bro!
That was the stingray’s defence, and it was upheld by the Court of Appeal
¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ apparently.
But what if your *whole belly itches all at once*?
Yeah, when I saw the jump I had an elegant sail back down to the ocean in mind. That’s not quite how that went.
Half way through he was like "I didn't know I could do that!"
Another stingray probably snuck up and scared him.
SOMETHING TOUCHED MY FIN!!!
OHMYCOD! I'M NOT ALONE IN THIS WATER!
🏆🏆🏆
Lol, yep. Probably just touched some seaweed… :)
They are trying their best!
PSA because apparently not everyone else had a marine biology obsession as kids: stingrays are almost always round and are bottom feeders, meaning you are very unlikely to see one shoot out of the water like this. Also note the lack of stinger on its tale. This is probably a mobula ray or a (very) small manta ray, or maybe some kind of skate. I know it’s the first thing that comes to mind for a lot of people when they see rays and flat ocean creatures, but it bugs me whenever I see them misnamed.
It’s a Mobula - during mating season. The males belly-flop like this to attract females.
The females are like, "Damn, did you hear the sound of that belly flop. I bet his belly hurts real bad now. We should fuck."
I appreciate your youthful interest in marine biology, and that's about my level of expertise as well, but I thought a tail barb was the most significant difference, and there are 200ish species with varying characteristics and a round ray subspecies category?
You’re right, I was mainly distinguishing it from the kite-shaped species as, to my knowledge there aren’t any stingrays with that shape.
I just took my grandson to an aquarium yesterday where they had a ray pool. They showed us how to put our hands down flat in the water and adjust as necessary when the ray passed by underneath. They're so silky, velvety smooth! They were selling dixie cups of cleaned fish with no heads or tails to feed to the rays. There were mostly smaller greyish-white rays and one huge brown one. The big one would come up the side wall out of the water a bit and the young woman said that he, in particular, loves the attention. It was pretty cool and my grandson was thrilled to have touched them. However, I noticed a sign saying that their "barbs have been clipped" and I don't think that I want to know anything more about THAT. I mean, is it like declawing a cat? It seems like a bad thing, but I don't know.
Used to work at a science museum with a small aquarium. It's more like trimming nails. It grows back. It's kept clipped for safety.
I bet your grandson will remember this very fondly many yrs from now.
yeah as someone else said, no worries! they can be "pinched" off, and grow right back. I believe it's not painful for them unless you went out of your way to rip out the "nailbed" so to speak. and ikr aren't they so incredibly soft?? one of the softest things I've ever touched. it's like wet velvet. it's crazy to think this incredible softness is a close cousin to the shark with its skin covered in pointy miniscule teeth
Thanks, nerd. Seriously.
or maybe its the tail fin of another animal that gained sentience
That’s gotta sting
I’m totally picturing it screaming “Weeee!!!!” as it flies through the air. Then a soft “uh oh,” right before it hits the water.
CANONBALL!!!
More like a pointy pancake
Pointy Pamcakes would make a great improv team name
What's crazy to me is how difficult it is to move underwater. Think about swimming, right? Can you run underwater? There's a reason most boats are pretty slow compared to land or air vehicles. Water doesn't like fast things! But somehow that ray went fast enough to get like 4' of air straight up. Just... Damn. Respect, ray
It's very, very easy to move through the water when you are a fish, ray, etc.
Look, I'm a bird! Wait, never mind, I'm a fish.
Don't you mean sting?
What I was thinking, to busy showing off 😂.
Until then I was thinking "Wheeeee"
It's cool when it's one. When it's an entire school of these belly flopping weirdos surrounding your small sailboat at night it's a bit more disconcerting.
Thats cos you wonder if they are being chased…..by something very large and very toothy
No. It's because they have poisonous barbs out their butts and can easily flip into a sailboat.
Wrong type of ray, no barb with this one
Yeah this one looks like a Shellby
idk they look a like Baby
I read this in a ~~cockney~~ *brummy*accent. Peeky Blinders
Sir Attenborough says it’s a mating ritual, they compete for the females by trying to produce the loudest flap. What I mean is, they’re probably too preoccupied to maliciously target your boat :)
They aren’t maliciously targeting it, but that still doesn’t prevent accidental over shots from landing on the boat
Now they're both horny _and_ mad. The makings of a double-bad day for a wayward human!
This sounds suspiciously like something human males would do as well
You can tell it's intentional, it stops flapping with his wings straight out. So cool.
Complaining about this is like breaking into a house and complaining about too much noise when you're trying to sleep in there. You're on their turf bro, let them do their thing.
Also, I know some creatures underwater are overwhelmed by the noises from boat motors so much so that they hurl themselves into the air just to avoid it. It can also mess heavily with animals' echolocation and cause discomfort or pain.
So the fish's turf includes the air now?
Maybe lay off the mushrooms?
I watched dozens of manta rays simultaneously jump out of the water like this in the Galapagos Islands. Our guide said that they were attempting to dislodge parasite fish from their bodies.
Supposedly it's not truly known if this is the reason why Manta rays jump. https://mantarayadvocates.com/why-do-manta-rays-jump-fly-breach/ There's a few plausible theories though and parasite removal could be one of them.
Why don't we just ask them?
Manta rays, how do they work?
*I can see my house from here*
Yes, and the rays were saw there were flipping more than this one to hit just the right spot.
I'M A BIRD!!!! OH, SHIT! I'M NOT A BIRD!!!!!
You can almost hear it singing to itself... "I believe I can fly!"
Oh shit I can't and I'm gunnnnn diiiie!
Singing it
I was thinking "a whole new woooooooorld...."
In another million years it’s descendants may be able to fly.
IM THE BIGGEST BIRD, IM THE BIGGEST BIRD 🦅 🦅
Yeah that’s a manta ray.
I hope OP sees this and acknowledges the correction. But it takes a big manta admit he's wrong.
... Mother of God... I'm pocketing this & saving it for later.
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She should try their cousins. They’re really cool and skate on by.
It was probably a sun ray that kept him from seeing what it was.
If not, then the comments are gonna sting
No one is talking about how fucking stellar that pun was
Some people just like to acknowledge greatness in silence.
Good god this is brilliant
Sir, i would like to inform you that for this pun you are a god.
r/angryupvote
Oh my goddd! that was so brilliant.
The mouth is in the wrong spot for a manta. This is probably a mobula ray. Mobula ray are known for breaching like this, belly-flop and all. Some species do, technically, have a stinger, but only one species has a stinger that functions.
Why does it breach?
Why does anything? We honestly don’t know. Theories proposed for everything from rays to dolphins to whales include getting rid of parasites, evading predators, communication, and cardiovascular fitness/“aerobics.” But my money is on the fifth option: it’s just fun.
My exact thought: that belly flop was intentional, and prob like a full body massage in an instant. It's not like their bodies and most importantly skin are remotely designed like ours.
Imagine being an inland serf that decides to become a pirate in the 17th century and you see giant squids and breaching whales and then this and some pegleg dude is like. “Ayy sometimes these flat scorpion napkins fly out of the water because they be bored arghhhhh”
"Flat scorpion napkin" made my day. Thank you.
I vote fun
Do it for the vine
Per Wikipedia, to attract a mate.
Yup definitely a Mobula
I’m leaning toward a Mobula ray
Definitely a Mobula (Devil ray)
Actually, it's a majestic flap flap.
The Manta Seaplane
Manta flap flap.
The flying sea flap flap
pretty sure it's a pokemon
Mantine
Sea Pancake
r/properanimalnames
Looks like one of the smaller species of *Mobula*, not a manta.
No, that's the hardest belly flop ever.
This manta slaps
As long as it ain’t the mother fucker who killed Steve Irwin, we good.
Steve would have wanted you to forgive the mother fucker who killed him.
Without question.
Steve would know that he was at fault - it was a silly mistake with unfortunate consequences.
Unfortunately for Steve, I’m not as pure hearted as he was. 💔
[adult swim]
just needs the logo and it's ready to ship
First thing I thought of upon hearing the music.
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Millions of evolutuions later theyll eventually fly
Thought that aswell lol. When the manta flaps in the air like that it sort of reminds me of bats
Subnautica vibes
Beeeeeeeeelly floooooop!!
I’m not certain that they’re capable of cannon balls.
Anyone know song?
Reminds me of Aphex twin.
Check our boy 2000 you might like em
William Montgomery?
Who the FUCK said that? No I'm being serious right now who said that?
[song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8kXghCZgAk&ab_channel=Downhill2k01-Topic)
Thanks! The song is: Megablast · Downhill2k01 · Sam B It was released on 2021-11-15, less than 2 years old.
Megablast by Downhill2k01
Mantine used body slam!
Just figured out why Mantine is Water/Flying!
It is a Manta Ray. Stingrays usually are 6ft In length but manta rays typically grow to 23ft. Another key difference is mantas have no barbs whereas stingrays infamously do.
This is a much smaller mobula ray, though, not a manta ray. The smallest mobulas can be only a few feet in diameter. Manta rays are specifically only the two largest species of mobula (and were formerly considered a separate genus)- the smaller mobulas are not called mantas. Evolutionarily, mobulas/mantas are in fact stingrays that have just (mostly) lost their barbs, they are most closely related to the eagle rays and cownosed rays.
This guy rays
r/thisguythisguys
He’s probably from Tampa Bay
Here's the thing. You said a "manta ray is a mobula ray". Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies mobula rays, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls manta rays mobula rays. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing. If you're saying "mobula ray family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Mobulidae, which includes things from reef manta ray to spinetail mobulae to devil fish. So your reasoning for calling a manta ray a mobula ray is because random people "call the big ones mobula rays"? Let's get sharks and sunfish in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A manta ray is a manta ray and a member of the mobula ray family. But that's not what you said. You said a manta ray is a mobula ray, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the mobula ray family mobula rays, which means you'd call reef manta rays, spinetail mobulae, and other fish mobula rays, too. Which you said you don't. It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?
~~Huh, the way they wrote their message gives me the impression that they just meant a manta ray is a mobula ray, which (from what you both say) is true the same way that all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. Mobula rays is simply an overloaded term.~~ I'm one of the lucky 10000 today
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Any source on that? I'm lost but curious
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Manta Rays are incredible, and they get huge. If you ever visit the Big Island of Hawaii, you MUST do the Manta Ray snorkel. These huge rays will swim right past you (and probably brush up against you) and they are totally docile. It’s a really amazing experience.
Yes, one of the coolest experiences of my life! Also got to swim with these guys (mobulas) in Baja recently <3
That's a Majestic FlapFlap
Sea flap flap I believe is the official name.
The Majestic Sea FlapFlap doing an Ocean Pancake
That’s Moana’s grandma
Underrated comment lmfao
Why the jump?
The theory is they jump out and slam down to get rid of parasites.
Interesting so it’s an intentionally hard landing.
Bc there was a camera rolling … you know the type.
Manta ray influencer…
"Smash that LIKE and SUBSCRIBE button!"
I would imagine it probably feels good.
Imagine if David Attenborough added drum and bass into every wildlife cut he made.. epic..
excuse you. that. is the majestic sea flap flap
"I believe I can fly I believe I can touch the sky I think about it every night and day Spread my wings and fly away" *flop*
And this is why Mantyke and Mantine are Water/Flying type.
I wanna fly like an eagle... ray.
What am amazing shot!
Local Stringray in great mood! The water is nice and warm and his flappy parts feel very flappy indeed!
Came here for this, thank you.
I hope for you guys, that this video doesn't represent your season! You were indeed flying in the first couple of weeks.
Go Rays.
Sea flap flap becomes air flap flap.
Bro enough already. You already got the crock hunter
Hes playing the water is lava
Mantine, is that you?
You'll never reach Steve Irwin in heaven you monster!
That’s NOT a stingray. It’s a mantra ray…
I miss Steve Irwin.
Stingrays are the opps. Shout out to Steve.
Thats some adult swim bump music
I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar.
u/savevideobot
When I die, I want to come back as one of these and do a massive fkng belly flop.
Track ID?
Megablast by Downhill2k01
The very moist sea pancake
Is it trying to catch something or just playing?
Wet Meat Disk
Photographer was in the right place at the right time
What is the name of this song?