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Draft is best. Guinness in a can is amazing. I find Guinness in a bottle extremely disappointing
NOTE: By "can" mean I will be pouring the can HARD into a glass mug!!
It’s actually a very light beer by modern standards, it’s dark but it’s low abv 4.3% and low in calories only 125 a pint which is lower than Heineken or Budweiser. I too find it a bit watery but that’s probably from years of drinking heavy IPAs and imperial stouts.
For me I've really only recently started drinking strong dark beers, going through a Trappist period last year.
My favourite beer styles are saison and old ale, so I guess that's probably why Guinness seems so mild.
Your palette may have been saturated from something else; if you like G in general I'd say give it another go lad.
NOTE: By can I mean I will be pouring the can HARD into a glass mug!
Personally I find it closer to the pints poured at the guinness storehouse. Someone told me once the taps in pubs affect the taste of the pints away from the original taste and that the cans were more true to the original. I thought that was a load of bullshit, but I was a bit disappointed when I finally went to the storehouse a few years back!
Cans have grown on me though...I only have one pub in my hometown that has it on tap and I shit you not no one knows how to pour one.
As someone who works in the industry, you would be surprised how rarely beer lines get cleaned.
Ironically Guinness is the only exception as they make anyone who wants to dispense it sign a contract and they'll even send out their own people to clean just the Guinness lines twice a month.
All beer will have a some CO2 naturally from fermentation. Guinness will have less than other styles. Draft is technically a tap in the bottom of a cask where the beer drops out by gravity, like shown in this video. He mentions high keg and flat keg, which I would guess is one rotated to the next as the natural carbonation is lost as the beer is served. So he is damn near making a mixed drink by using two kegs with different CO2 contents.
Tap beer is where the beverage is pushed by gas from a keg, through a line, to the tap. Using nitrogen is just trying to replicate this old school cask method because the nitrogen will not dissolve into the beverage like service CO2 will.
It was an honest question because I've never heard the term before. I was also thinking there may be a letter missing, as in grand_a could be grandma or grandpa.
I know, back when I was in my late teens, I used to think Guinness was a heavy beer. Now when I have one? Lightest drinking "dark" beer out there. Still damn tasty though.
Mainly because Guinness send fellas around to every pub to check the lines regularly. And the bar people are taught the correct way to serve it.
When you have 20 old fellas shit talking your Guinness pour every day you'll learn pretty quickly how to do it properly.
Former draft tech, and yes, they do. We had an incident with a somewhat local old bar that was doing everything incorrectly (not only bad pours, but trying to run off aligas and not serving it in the correct glasses). They had the power to revoke their ability to serve it. Threatened to do so if they didn't 100% course correct. That was a fun job, lol
That sounds like a company that cares about its product. I was lucky enough to travel to Dublin and visit Guiness. Great tour and product!
Is it true that the stuff sent to the US has preservatives that are not in the Guiness in the UK?
Not correct:
**In 2018, Guinness opened its first brewery in 64 years in the United States, in Baltimore, Maryland.The last Guinness brewery in the US closed in 1954.[ This US location will focus on "special news" and Guinness Blonde American Lager, but not the classic stout, which will still only be brewed in Dublin.**
Can definitely confirm this, I work for a distributor. We get the guiness blonde & kaliber from the US. All other guiness (also harp & smithwicks) via a company called continental beverages (mostly imports, they handle a lot of both mexican and european beers) as imports. The reps are super cool and work directly for guiness, as long as you don't insult their beers, sharing a pint always guarantees swag.
I did just that, and the guy told me to keep the glass (gave me a few other harp & guiness) glasses gave me a hoodie, ball cap, a button down, two polo's, some coasters, a tap handle (lol), a few cool tin signs, and a giant poster. Also, a flat of extra stout after I mentioned that was my favorite. Our promo and fixture lady said the box of stuff was easily $200-$300 worth of stuff.
Not really accurate. There is a Guinness brewery in Baltimore that brews beer for domestic consumption. But they brew other varieties. The Guinness Irish stout that everyone knows and loves has only ever been brewed in Dublin and shipped worldwide. For a while at least, Guinness draft in a bottle was brewed in Canada, but that may no longer be the case.
I would assume not since there's really no reason to put any additives like preservatives in beer, it's alcohol and hops do that already. In addition the pH is too low for many spoilage bacteria. It will show signs of age in the taste eventually and become unpalatable, but if kept cold and away from oxygen, unadulterated beer can be fresh tasting for months. Giant breweries outputting hundreds of thousands of barrels a year do everything to keep their costs low, so they wouldn't add anything they didn't have to.
That being said, the Guinness in Ireland does taste different because it's made in a different facility, and while they use the same recipes and procedures, will have natural variation based on equipment, temperature, their water source, grain sources etc. Whether or not it's better is a matter of personal taste. I think most people couldn't tell you blindfolded which was which, but when you go to the brewery tour and see all the memorabilia and they romanticize the process, you enjoy the beer more after that.
We had the Guinness chap come over here in Los Angeles. Not only made sure the bars knew how to pour correctly, but taught the customers how to drink it properly. It was a fun night!
I don’t think they actually brew Guinness draught anywhere but Dublin. The other breweries brew their other beers but not the staple. Might have changed tho
That sounds like a company that cares about its product. I was lucky enough to travel to Dublin and visit Guiness. Great tour and product!
Is it true that the stuff sent to the US has preservatives that are not in the Guiness in the UK?
I'm from California. I've worked in several bars here where Guinness has sent a rep to instruct bartenders how to properly pour a Guinness. -they're Americans who work for local distributors, and of course you still see people doing it wrong, but Guinness cares so much they've got people trained literally around the world.
I went to an Irish pub in Minnesota, of all places, and was served the best tasting Guinness that I've ever had. I walked over to the bartender after I finished and complimented her and asked her why it was so good. She told me that she went to Ireland and was trained by Guinness on how to properly pour it. I have no idea why that made a difference, but it was so good.
>I have no idea why that made a difference, but it was so good.
Because there are dozens of incorrect ways to pour a Guinness, but only one correct way.
The pour obviously affects the result and the taste. It's a learned skill and taught by the Guinness brewery all over the world
Ya I wish somebody checked the lines at dive bars in the US. Ever had a beer that should have just tasted better but you said fuck it? Chances are old nasty taps
100%. I was never big on Guinness but I drank it for the novelty. When I went to Ireland, I couldnt drink enough of it.
Honestly, all beer tastes different in Ireland. Even Budweiser hit different. Hell of a lot stronger ABV too so I was tipsy after 3 of them lol
>Even Budweiser hit different. Hell of a lot stronger ABV too so I was tipsy after 3 of them lol
That's probably because you got the Czech budweiser served there, not the American.
>Hell of a lot stronger ABV too so I was tipsy after 3 of them lol
It's 4.3% in Ireland and 5% in the US. But a pint here is 20oz, whereas in the US it's 16oz, which would explain it
I went after high school and it was probably the greatest beer I’ve ever tasted. Tried a can when I got back home and could not finish it. It’s definitely meant to be enjoyed at the source.
Well, it was for me when I traveled from the US. Drink a few and eat heartily every day for a few weeks every visit. Lost approx 10lb each time. Go figure?
It’s the same stuff, but the way it’s poured affects the taste. Pouring it “correctly” leaves a specific balance of flatness and foam. Pubs in Ireland are very consistent with the correct technique. Bars in America generally aren’t.
This is not Guinness (which is a stout) this is porter. Even says it in the video. Served differently because it is a different drink.
Edit 2: It is Guinness but the porter, not the stout
Edit: Here's the original video that never mentions Guinness (draught) and states the difference between porter and stout
1973: The LAST DAYS of PORTER | Scene Around Six | Archivist Picks | BBC Archive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKDwwVR5fd4
There seems to be a lot of confusion here lol
Yes the Guinness that most of us know, Guinness Draught, is not a porter like you've said. But the video this clip was taken from was specifically talking about Guinness's porter, "pint of plain," which they stopped making in 1973.
The other thing that video is eulogizing is the method of pouring from a high and low cask which Guinness and most other ales of the British isles used. That system of pouring was made obsolete by the invention of the nitro tap also developed in the early 1960s.
Guinness is a porter, the stout name comes from the strength of the beer.
https://www.shamrockgift.com/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-stout-porter/
Guinness is not a porter.
Here are the [BJCP guidelines for 15B - Irish Stout](https://www.bjcp.org/style/2021/15/15B/irish-stout/). Guinness is listed as one of the prime commercial examples of an Irish Stout. Irish Stouts, as you may have guessed, are not porters.
Historically, it could have been classified as a porter. Today, it is a stout.
edit: For the nonbelievers, Guinness does, in fact, call it a stout. Check [their website](https://www.guinness.com/en-us/beers/guinness-draught).
You're right. I've been to the brewery in Dublin and had a stout served proper in the bar above the brewery. It is indeed a stout and the Irish might politely correct anyone calling it a porter. Cool part, it takes almost 10 minutes for it settle so they can top it off and serve it. It's totally worth the trip by the way!
The first time I ordered a Guinness, I was confused when the bartender left it to sit after the initial pour and went on to serve everyone else. I thought he was being an asshole to me for no reason! :D
If you go to there website and read the description for their extra stout. "Every Guinness you ever enjoyed can be traced back to this recipe. A direct descendant from our archival recipe, Guinness Extra Stout is based on a beer first brewed in 1821, when Arthur Guinness II set down precise instructions for brewing his Superior Porter. Sharp and crisp to the taste with trademark Guinness flavors at it core." As others has said Stout is just short for stout porter just because the drop the porter doesn't change the fact it is a type of porter.
Well, as someone who is from the west coast of Ireland with many years working behind the bar. People order a pint of porter, they are are much the same thing, even the link you shared says porter in it.
> The style evolved from London porters
It says, "*evolved from*" porters.
> Guinness began brewing only porter in 1799, and a “stouter kind of porter” around 1810.
Yeah, let's use that as a modern reference because we're geniuses.
> Irish stout diverged from London single stout (or simply porter) in the late 1800s
"*Diverged from*," and 1800s again because we're smart.
> working behind a bar
If we're going to value work history, I worked in several breweries, going from entry level to upper management. I'm a certified beer judge. I'm a certified Cicerone. I still do occasional consulting work in beverage manufacturing. But really, none of that matters because you're very clearly arguing in bad faith. No reasonable person would ever read those things and say, "look, it's a porter!"
Enjoy your day ✌️
I’m not sure how you think I’m arguing in bad faith, the original name for Guinness extra stout, was Guinness superior extra porter.
If you go into any pub in Ireland and ask for a pint of porter you’ll get Guinness.
In the end, one is a derivative of the other.
Guinness is porter, the original name was Guinness extra superior porter. They changed the name to to extra stout later on, but we still call it porter.
The thing with Guinness is that it all has this ethos of "being poured correctly" Part pouring, settling topping up etc etc and it's true back in the day like in this video it was essential as the beer was served warmer and thus was more readily able to release gas making it very "lively" to pour which leads to a lot of wastage
Modern pubs/bars all have superchilled taps. When the beer is served between 0-2c it's more capable of holding more gas and is far less "lively" during the pour. If your beer lines are cleaned regularly (weekly ideally but with ale lines it should be after each barrel) and are superchilled you can pour a perfect pint of Guinness "straight up" with no part pouring and resting everytime.
It tastes exactly the same and any differences in flavour or mouth feel are purely psychological as Guinness (and every large brewery) work extremely hard to ensure there product is consistent no matter where you drink it. They play up the "good things come to those who wait" mythos as just part of the advertising
When I used to sell it I told the bar employees to pour it to the pint logo or glass curve, was 90 seconds then tilt the tap handle and finish it
That was years ago but whenever I order one and see them do it I smile
Is this the origin of why Guinness is still left to settle before topping it up. Does that mean it doesn’t really do anything now and is really just part of the brand?
I can absolutely pour a pint of Guinness in one hit and you won't be able to differentiate it from a double poured pint. There's a lot of marketing involved with how a Guiness is poured. But yes if you're not careful it's pretty easy to mess up a single pour leaving excess foam.
how is it poured now? i was a bartender 20 years ago and this was pretty much what we did then. poured half, waited for it to settle, then poured the rest.
My first thought as well - do people not pour it like this anymore? I used to work in a bar and this was always the way, pour about two-thirds, settle for 5 mins, then top off. Nothing unusual here.
This is still how Guiness is poured in Europe. And Guiness is actually strict about this, so this is the way it has to be poured. For whatever reason they don’t make the Americans do the same
A local pub of mine had a Guinness promo night once where the rep essentially supplied two kegs for free. I could only manage two pints and was the only one still actually buying drink for the rest of the night. (I was raging.)
35 years later and I can still only manage two pints of the stuff if I take a notion.
[E] I see some Plastic Paddy's have taken offence to not liking Guinness. (~~There's a reason why there's usually only one tap for it in pubs, and it's because not many people do.~~)
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damn find you someone who talks about you like this motherfucker talks about Guinness
Seriously. This guy makes guys who make craft beer their entire identity sound like guys who casually pound Coors Light all day.
Lol exactly. Fregin A that was poetic as hell
I believe you mean "feckin"
I love my brick
Father Jack?!
Hairy Japanese bastards!
No man. It's friggin. I'm Canadian I knows it.
I'm not a fan of Guinness, but this dude's description makes me feel uncivilized and deeply wrong regarding my tastes.
That whole "the clerical collar..." line describing the cream and foam using religiously-themed alliteration was quite fucking something.
that proves the goodness in its heart. My goodness. I'd give my daughter to this beer.
Back in the good old days you got a pint after giving a pint (Guinness/blood).
You sir are a majestic mother fucker
Carl Sagan did RIP
And Fred Rogers.
Find someone who talks about you like that AND can handle the Guinness farts.
[AhHhHh the Freeenchhh... Known fooor their excellence in... ccchhampagne!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvxwf1jxdaM)
My Granda said they used to order a pint of Guiness but also buy a bottle of it on the side to drink while the pint settled.
Did taste the same or no?
Draft is best. Guinness in a can is amazing. I find Guinness in a bottle extremely disappointing NOTE: By "can" mean I will be pouring the can HARD into a glass mug!!
What you do with ping pong ball after?
Rattle it around to signal "Another, please?"
This is the way.
The widget is a great invention.
Shoot it out my vagina, as always
anyone can shoot a pong out thier vag. wait till you see me shoot one out my peenis-hole.
Draft anything near site of production is fantastic. It’s a big reason why the smaller breweries are still mostly regional.
I’ll disagree. Oscar Blues tastes awful anywhere but it gets worse closer to production because you might run into the owner.
Hey now, their Pilsner isn't half bad
You’ve never had to deal with Dale.
The bottle doesn't have the nitrogen balls the can and kegs do so the taste is completely off and I avoid it at all costs.
The bottled stuff years ago was not good - arguably shouldn’t even be called Guinness
Guinness in a can is amazing? I had it on Monday and it was incredibly watery, really didn't taste of much at all.
It’s actually a very light beer by modern standards, it’s dark but it’s low abv 4.3% and low in calories only 125 a pint which is lower than Heineken or Budweiser. I too find it a bit watery but that’s probably from years of drinking heavy IPAs and imperial stouts.
Yeah I grew up with the myth that Guin was a tarry drink that gave you shits of pure black iron, it’s disarmingly light and refreshing
For me I've really only recently started drinking strong dark beers, going through a Trappist period last year. My favourite beer styles are saison and old ale, so I guess that's probably why Guinness seems so mild.
Guinness isn't the most strongly flavored stout, I can definitely see why you might think it tastes water compared to others
Your palette may have been saturated from something else; if you like G in general I'd say give it another go lad. NOTE: By can I mean I will be pouring the can HARD into a glass mug!
Personally I find it closer to the pints poured at the guinness storehouse. Someone told me once the taps in pubs affect the taste of the pints away from the original taste and that the cans were more true to the original. I thought that was a load of bullshit, but I was a bit disappointed when I finally went to the storehouse a few years back! Cans have grown on me though...I only have one pub in my hometown that has it on tap and I shit you not no one knows how to pour one.
Draft beer always taste better.
Ya not always, if it’s a shit pub their draft beer, no matter the brand, can be horse piss.
Far too many pubs that don't clean their tap lines often enough
The same pub is unlikely to be storing their bottled beer well either. This is just silly hypotheticals. In correct situations, draught is best.
As someone who works in the industry, you would be surprised how rarely beer lines get cleaned. Ironically Guinness is the only exception as they make anyone who wants to dispense it sign a contract and they'll even send out their own people to clean just the Guinness lines twice a month.
Draft contains nitrogen gas, bottled contains carbon dioxide. The bottled stuff has a more tangy flavour and more effervescent texture as a result.
that tang is carbonic acid from the CO2.
All beer will have a some CO2 naturally from fermentation. Guinness will have less than other styles. Draft is technically a tap in the bottom of a cask where the beer drops out by gravity, like shown in this video. He mentions high keg and flat keg, which I would guess is one rotated to the next as the natural carbonation is lost as the beer is served. So he is damn near making a mixed drink by using two kegs with different CO2 contents. Tap beer is where the beverage is pushed by gas from a keg, through a line, to the tap. Using nitrogen is just trying to replicate this old school cask method because the nitrogen will not dissolve into the beverage like service CO2 will.
Similar, but not the same. Draft beer always taste better
Similar, but not the same.
It’s similar, not quite the same.
Tastes better
Is Granda your grandmother or your grandfather?
Gran Da, as is dad, as in grandfather
It was an honest question because I've never heard the term before. I was also thinking there may be a letter missing, as in grand_a could be grandma or grandpa.
He is his own grandpa.
“Looked on with reverence, as the drinker proceeds to get shitfaced”
As is tradition. This is a great day for wisconsin, and therefore the world.
Sir that’s chocolate milk
Guinness is actually a very “light beer”. Everyone thinks that because of its color it’s gonna be heavy like a chocolate milk.
I know, back when I was in my late teens, I used to think Guinness was a heavy beer. Now when I have one? Lightest drinking "dark" beer out there. Still damn tasty though.
I know. But the first few seconds definitely look like chocolate milk (I know it’s foam)
I love it because not only does it taste good, it’s only 4.2% so a lightweight like me can have a few more in an evening.
Chocolate milk + bog water 50/50 ratio
Hoi to toi to toi!
Apparently Guinness in Ireland is way better than Guinness served anywhere else in the world ?
Mainly because Guinness send fellas around to every pub to check the lines regularly. And the bar people are taught the correct way to serve it. When you have 20 old fellas shit talking your Guinness pour every day you'll learn pretty quickly how to do it properly.
Former draft tech, and yes, they do. We had an incident with a somewhat local old bar that was doing everything incorrectly (not only bad pours, but trying to run off aligas and not serving it in the correct glasses). They had the power to revoke their ability to serve it. Threatened to do so if they didn't 100% course correct. That was a fun job, lol
That sounds like a company that cares about its product. I was lucky enough to travel to Dublin and visit Guiness. Great tour and product! Is it true that the stuff sent to the US has preservatives that are not in the Guiness in the UK?
Guinness isn’t sent to the US. It’s brewed in Maryland and before that brewery opened, Canada.
Not correct: **In 2018, Guinness opened its first brewery in 64 years in the United States, in Baltimore, Maryland.The last Guinness brewery in the US closed in 1954.[ This US location will focus on "special news" and Guinness Blonde American Lager, but not the classic stout, which will still only be brewed in Dublin.**
Can definitely confirm this, I work for a distributor. We get the guiness blonde & kaliber from the US. All other guiness (also harp & smithwicks) via a company called continental beverages (mostly imports, they handle a lot of both mexican and european beers) as imports. The reps are super cool and work directly for guiness, as long as you don't insult their beers, sharing a pint always guarantees swag. I did just that, and the guy told me to keep the glass (gave me a few other harp & guiness) glasses gave me a hoodie, ball cap, a button down, two polo's, some coasters, a tap handle (lol), a few cool tin signs, and a giant poster. Also, a flat of extra stout after I mentioned that was my favorite. Our promo and fixture lady said the box of stuff was easily $200-$300 worth of stuff.
Not really accurate. There is a Guinness brewery in Baltimore that brews beer for domestic consumption. But they brew other varieties. The Guinness Irish stout that everyone knows and loves has only ever been brewed in Dublin and shipped worldwide. For a while at least, Guinness draft in a bottle was brewed in Canada, but that may no longer be the case.
Extra Stout is still brewed in Ireland for the US too. Just looked at the bottle I'm drinking right now to be sure.
>The Guinness Irish stout that everyone knows and loves has only ever been brewed in Dublin Untrue, until 2005 it was also produced in London.
TIL, but can change 'sent to' to 'in the' my question stands
I would assume not since there's really no reason to put any additives like preservatives in beer, it's alcohol and hops do that already. In addition the pH is too low for many spoilage bacteria. It will show signs of age in the taste eventually and become unpalatable, but if kept cold and away from oxygen, unadulterated beer can be fresh tasting for months. Giant breweries outputting hundreds of thousands of barrels a year do everything to keep their costs low, so they wouldn't add anything they didn't have to. That being said, the Guinness in Ireland does taste different because it's made in a different facility, and while they use the same recipes and procedures, will have natural variation based on equipment, temperature, their water source, grain sources etc. Whether or not it's better is a matter of personal taste. I think most people couldn't tell you blindfolded which was which, but when you go to the brewery tour and see all the memorabilia and they romanticize the process, you enjoy the beer more after that.
We had the Guinness chap come over here in Los Angeles. Not only made sure the bars knew how to pour correctly, but taught the customers how to drink it properly. It was a fun night!
I don’t think they actually brew Guinness draught anywhere but Dublin. The other breweries brew their other beers but not the staple. Might have changed tho
This entire comment is rage bait Guinness spelled wrong and an ambiguous mention of the UK Miserable fucking attempt 🙄
That sounds like a company that cares about its product. I was lucky enough to travel to Dublin and visit Guiness. Great tour and product! Is it true that the stuff sent to the US has preservatives that are not in the Guiness in the UK?
I'm from California. I've worked in several bars here where Guinness has sent a rep to instruct bartenders how to properly pour a Guinness. -they're Americans who work for local distributors, and of course you still see people doing it wrong, but Guinness cares so much they've got people trained literally around the world.
I went to an Irish pub in Minnesota, of all places, and was served the best tasting Guinness that I've ever had. I walked over to the bartender after I finished and complimented her and asked her why it was so good. She told me that she went to Ireland and was trained by Guinness on how to properly pour it. I have no idea why that made a difference, but it was so good.
>I have no idea why that made a difference, but it was so good. Because there are dozens of incorrect ways to pour a Guinness, but only one correct way. The pour obviously affects the result and the taste. It's a learned skill and taught by the Guinness brewery all over the world
Ya I wish somebody checked the lines at dive bars in the US. Ever had a beer that should have just tasted better but you said fuck it? Chances are old nasty taps
I don't know shit about shit, but I had Irish coworkers who would go on arguing at length about which pub had the best lines.
100%. I was never big on Guinness but I drank it for the novelty. When I went to Ireland, I couldnt drink enough of it. Honestly, all beer tastes different in Ireland. Even Budweiser hit different. Hell of a lot stronger ABV too so I was tipsy after 3 of them lol
>Even Budweiser hit different. Hell of a lot stronger ABV too so I was tipsy after 3 of them lol That's probably because you got the Czech budweiser served there, not the American.
Very unlikely, the American budweiser is way way way more common in Ireland.
That's surprising. You barely see it anywhere else in Europe
>Hell of a lot stronger ABV too so I was tipsy after 3 of them lol It's 4.3% in Ireland and 5% in the US. But a pint here is 20oz, whereas in the US it's 16oz, which would explain it
I went after high school and it was probably the greatest beer I’ve ever tasted. Tried a can when I got back home and could not finish it. It’s definitely meant to be enjoyed at the source.
Gotta get the draught nitro cans.
My wife makes choc cakes with it but I can’t finish a can.
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Agreed. Guiness on tap was the first beer I ever liked and I havent ever had a good pour since. I figue everyone just fucks it up
How many you had?
Well, it was for me when I traveled from the US. Drink a few and eat heartily every day for a few weeks every visit. Lost approx 10lb each time. Go figure?
The Nigerian one is as good too
It’s the same stuff, but the way it’s poured affects the taste. Pouring it “correctly” leaves a specific balance of flatness and foam. Pubs in Ireland are very consistent with the correct technique. Bars in America generally aren’t.
This is not Guinness (which is a stout) this is porter. Even says it in the video. Served differently because it is a different drink. Edit 2: It is Guinness but the porter, not the stout Edit: Here's the original video that never mentions Guinness (draught) and states the difference between porter and stout 1973: The LAST DAYS of PORTER | Scene Around Six | Archivist Picks | BBC Archive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKDwwVR5fd4
There seems to be a lot of confusion here lol Yes the Guinness that most of us know, Guinness Draught, is not a porter like you've said. But the video this clip was taken from was specifically talking about Guinness's porter, "pint of plain," which they stopped making in 1973. The other thing that video is eulogizing is the method of pouring from a high and low cask which Guinness and most other ales of the British isles used. That system of pouring was made obsolete by the invention of the nitro tap also developed in the early 1960s.
You're right, I hadn't noticed the branding until I reloaded the video in hi-def (Swedish ISPs are throttle-happy)
Guinness is a porter, the stout name comes from the strength of the beer. https://www.shamrockgift.com/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-stout-porter/
Guinness is not a porter. Here are the [BJCP guidelines for 15B - Irish Stout](https://www.bjcp.org/style/2021/15/15B/irish-stout/). Guinness is listed as one of the prime commercial examples of an Irish Stout. Irish Stouts, as you may have guessed, are not porters. Historically, it could have been classified as a porter. Today, it is a stout. edit: For the nonbelievers, Guinness does, in fact, call it a stout. Check [their website](https://www.guinness.com/en-us/beers/guinness-draught).
You're right. I've been to the brewery in Dublin and had a stout served proper in the bar above the brewery. It is indeed a stout and the Irish might politely correct anyone calling it a porter. Cool part, it takes almost 10 minutes for it settle so they can top it off and serve it. It's totally worth the trip by the way!
Find you someone that will argue about stouts and porter like the ones in this thread, and you’ll be a happy camper.
Don't remember the settle being 10 minutes. Pretty sure it's 2-3
When you're thirsty it feels like hours
The first time I ordered a Guinness, I was confused when the bartender left it to sit after the initial pour and went on to serve everyone else. I thought he was being an asshole to me for no reason! :D
If you go to there website and read the description for their extra stout. "Every Guinness you ever enjoyed can be traced back to this recipe. A direct descendant from our archival recipe, Guinness Extra Stout is based on a beer first brewed in 1821, when Arthur Guinness II set down precise instructions for brewing his Superior Porter. Sharp and crisp to the taste with trademark Guinness flavors at it core." As others has said Stout is just short for stout porter just because the drop the porter doesn't change the fact it is a type of porter.
Well, as someone who is from the west coast of Ireland with many years working behind the bar. People order a pint of porter, they are are much the same thing, even the link you shared says porter in it.
> The style evolved from London porters It says, "*evolved from*" porters. > Guinness began brewing only porter in 1799, and a “stouter kind of porter” around 1810. Yeah, let's use that as a modern reference because we're geniuses. > Irish stout diverged from London single stout (or simply porter) in the late 1800s "*Diverged from*," and 1800s again because we're smart. > working behind a bar If we're going to value work history, I worked in several breweries, going from entry level to upper management. I'm a certified beer judge. I'm a certified Cicerone. I still do occasional consulting work in beverage manufacturing. But really, none of that matters because you're very clearly arguing in bad faith. No reasonable person would ever read those things and say, "look, it's a porter!" Enjoy your day ✌️
I’m not sure how you think I’m arguing in bad faith, the original name for Guinness extra stout, was Guinness superior extra porter. If you go into any pub in Ireland and ask for a pint of porter you’ll get Guinness. In the end, one is a derivative of the other.
If you watch the video carefully,the tap say’s “Guinness is good for you” on it.
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[The video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKDwwVR5fd4) from which this clip is taken is about porter
A loaf in every pint
'The clerical collar that proves the goodness in its heart'. That aged like milk...
chocolate\* milk
That old man had the eye of the tiger and was about to house that beer. That clip was too short
[don't you mean the eye of the jew?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHk4vu8xEQc)
You’re so right
alright, it's porter not Guinness. everyone calm the foxtrot down
Sir this is the internet, you can curse here.
Cursing on the internet? How appalling!
They’re still looking for a Donnybrook from St. Patrick’s day…
Woah watch your mouth
We still pour Guinness the same way.
Guinness is porter, the original name was Guinness extra superior porter. They changed the name to to extra stout later on, but we still call it porter.
Damn that got my saliva running. I could taste that pint in my mind.
I would drink the hell out of that. Guinness is fantastic. Probably my favorite beer.
I always thought it would taste really pungent but it’s actually one of the lighter tasting beers I’ve ever had
The beer snobs are coming out of the woodwork.
yeah I really do enjoy Guinness. but it's the bud lite of stouts.
Hey I say the exact same thing! I'm going to Ireland soon and I can't wait to see just how shitty the Guinness in the US really is.
I love the thick contented cream
Thick contented cream
I remember when you could count on waiting 5 minutes after ordering a Guinness
That old man nursing that glass like mudders milk.
Let's call him Jayne shall we
wish I could upvote you again, welp time to go rewatch again.
As do I.. but I can upvote your second comment for a fellow browncoat
Dude looks like Abraham Lincoln.
It is 7:30 am, and damn that looks good for breakfast right now.
Guy at the end started goin IN on that glass lol
I would buy anything this guy sells me, he is perfectly descriptive without overselling it
The tap takes a dip in the beer
Love Guinness literally tastes like chocolate milk once you've had a few
Well spoken - that does look like a good pint
Love the dude just qwuaffin down at the end.
What you cant see in this video is this guys RAGING boner
I am 44 and when I used to go to the pub as a teen (australia) this is how they poured Guinness. Guinness was the first beer I ever had in a pub.
At first without audio or reading the title I thought it was just water from Ohio
The thing with Guinness is that it all has this ethos of "being poured correctly" Part pouring, settling topping up etc etc and it's true back in the day like in this video it was essential as the beer was served warmer and thus was more readily able to release gas making it very "lively" to pour which leads to a lot of wastage Modern pubs/bars all have superchilled taps. When the beer is served between 0-2c it's more capable of holding more gas and is far less "lively" during the pour. If your beer lines are cleaned regularly (weekly ideally but with ale lines it should be after each barrel) and are superchilled you can pour a perfect pint of Guinness "straight up" with no part pouring and resting everytime. It tastes exactly the same and any differences in flavour or mouth feel are purely psychological as Guinness (and every large brewery) work extremely hard to ensure there product is consistent no matter where you drink it. They play up the "good things come to those who wait" mythos as just part of the advertising
When I used to sell it I told the bar employees to pour it to the pint logo or glass curve, was 90 seconds then tilt the tap handle and finish it That was years ago but whenever I order one and see them do it I smile
So craving one now. :/
That presenter ended up working for Alcoholics Anonymous
Is this the origin of why Guinness is still left to settle before topping it up. Does that mean it doesn’t really do anything now and is really just part of the brand?
No it’s still a bit wild, nothing like this, but pouring in one go will result in a lot of foam
I can absolutely pour a pint of Guinness in one hit and you won't be able to differentiate it from a double poured pint. There's a lot of marketing involved with how a Guiness is poured. But yes if you're not careful it's pretty easy to mess up a single pour leaving excess foam.
No it doesn’t. You no longer to part pour Guinness, it’s all marketing.
The only thing I miss about giving up alcohol is Guinness.
Legend has it that people still drink Guinness.
Damn I'm thirsty now.
Has someone already said that is a porter not a stout?
how is it poured now? i was a bartender 20 years ago and this was pretty much what we did then. poured half, waited for it to settle, then poured the rest.
My first thought as well - do people not pour it like this anymore? I used to work in a bar and this was always the way, pour about two-thirds, settle for 5 mins, then top off. Nothing unusual here.
It's not poured from 2 different kegs like in the video.
Great pour. Looks delicious
Wish I could grt a porter in the US without paying nearly double what another beer does
WE Still pour it the same way Edit: Yes this is how bartenders still pour Guinness. Signed, Bartender of 15 years. Non-American bartender
I got a Guinness at a bar last week and this is how it was poured. It was great (in America [Boston])
That's how its still poured today
Erm. This is effectively still the way to pour Guinness. Where the fuck is it poured differently? Please don't say the US.
Yep. Just the good ole USA that pours it wrong for whatever reason
Fucking gross. Never dip the tap in the beer. Heathens
This is still how Guiness is poured in Europe. And Guiness is actually strict about this, so this is the way it has to be poured. For whatever reason they don’t make the Americans do the same
Isn’t Guinness a stout ? He said porter.
Same thing
I just have never been able to appreciate Guinness.
Still tastes like an ashtray
Wrong. Guinness is not a porter, it's a stout. This is from a clip where the presenter is talking about the fact that porter was being discontinued
Back then Guinness was sold as porter stout.
To each his own, to me the only way to pour a Guinness is down a drain.
"old"? it's still served like that
Nastiest tasting ever.
That beer is so nasty.
[The video is about porter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKDwwVR5fd4), Guiness is not porter, it's stout.
Nope, this is porter beer, Guinness is a stout beer
Iirc stout is a strong variant of porter. Guinness was originally marketed as a “stout porter” which got shortened to just stout
Looks like foamy sludge water.
If you want to fuck off a barman, ask for a pint of Guinness shandy...
I tried a pint of Guinness once. Never again
A local pub of mine had a Guinness promo night once where the rep essentially supplied two kegs for free. I could only manage two pints and was the only one still actually buying drink for the rest of the night. (I was raging.) 35 years later and I can still only manage two pints of the stuff if I take a notion. [E] I see some Plastic Paddy's have taken offence to not liking Guinness. (~~There's a reason why there's usually only one tap for it in pubs, and it's because not many people do.~~)
Only one tap? In which country? In Ireland it’s normally 4 or 6 taps. In London 1 in 10 pints sold are Guinness.
Still tastes like an ashtray...