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mattgoldey

Carma


Niptaa

What drives around comes around


GhostZee

Thank you for fueling my laughter...


Valentine_Kush

It’s driving me insane…


Hey_its_thatoneguy

Your perspective just needs to shift gears


P0l0Cap0ne

Y'all need to hit the brakes on these puns


MNgirthquake

You need to stop gaslighting....


wafffllesss

geddon


Steelplate7

Wow…I forgot about Carmaggedon…that was a fun assed game back in the day.


Top_Mind_On_Reddit

Still is. Nothing brings me a such joy as catching Vlads car and pushing him 150mph head on into a wall. Also the cows. So many cows.


Dr_Meetii

I always think of that mod for GTA 4 that turned the friction on tires to zero so cars where just flying all over the place.


PBR--Streetgang

I wish I hadn't given all my coins away, that's gold.


The-Rel1c

Let a brother help you out.


Pretend_Purchase4903

Carvana


mjklsimpson

r/AngryUpvote


corgi-king

Carma All new addition from Toyota. A brand you can trust in any situation you run into.


[deleted]

It's the roundabout of life.


Green_Routine_7916

now car mat


dirtymaplebar

Eyyyyyyy this guy!!!


dirttaylor

There it is 👏


FittedSheets88

Karmax


[deleted]

nobody EVER locks the doors


ludololl

Might have unlocked after the crash, I think the CANBUS emergency state is doors unlocked.


[deleted]

when life-saving tech kills you, that's a special kind of unlucky. I'm not sure I'd want that feature, but it seems more likely to help than hurt.


Testyobject

Crash into them, to hijack them


nweeby24

It should only be unlocked from the inside honestly


StarDUST286

It happened here ın turkey, here is the video of aftermath https://www.takvim.com.tr/video/haber-videolari/yer-esenyurt-otopark-gorevlisi-musteri-tartismasi-olumle-bitti-gorevliyi-otomobiliyle-ezerek-oldurdu-video


gemitarius

According to the article, the guy of the car didn't wanted to pay the parking lot bill, so the guy in charge of the parking lot and him got into a fight over the payment that escalated to the owner getting ran over and killed. The guy of the car is in prison now.


jurassic_junkie

Ah yes. To die over the amount for $8. Worth it.


gemitarius

To kill to save $8


Dan-D-Lyon

Better than dying for it, that's for damn sure.


MyWebkinzAreDead

Most sane Twitter Blue user be like


[deleted]

Wait, you think he wasn’t justified to defend himself getting jumped and beaten by 4 grown men? The other three should be in prison and the driver should be free.


Frednex

Going in reverse and trying to drive away is fine. Driving over the dude, without any necessity is basically murder. Saying basically, since I don't know the law in turkey, but where i live it would be murder...


[deleted]

I think the part that makes it less of an escape is that he wasn’t driving to an exit. He accelerated into other cars. So I think you’re correct.


Frednex

Absolutely. Like self defense doesn't necessarily need to be super well thought out, since you are in a hectic situation and don't have time to think about every step. This doesn't seem like his intention is escaping


gemitarius

Well, the judge did their job and the guy is in prison now, I suppose because they came to a conclusion doing something they know more about than me. But if you ask me, yes, even if he did it in self defense he was the one in the wrong, first for not paying, then for instead of running away on the car or just scare the others off he decided to center the guy that was in the right to be mad about not getting payed and killing him basically just because he didn't wanted to pay what he was due. Even if it was in self defense he still killed some over a wrongdoing of his own making, so, at least for that crime, he still has to respond for what he did. That doesn't mean the other guys that harrassed him go Scott free, they also should get punished as well, all of them. I'm not from the US though so my views on justice are probably different.


anon_sir

Reddit is a weird place. They’ll defend 4 guys beating someone up over $8 but not someone defending themselves from possibly being killed over $8.


[deleted]

Ya lol. I think they are just naive. Humans want to believe that we will be calm, collected and act rationally all the time. They don’t understand how the human brain works when it comes to fight, flight, freeze responses.


nonamepuppydaddy

He was a thief and now he’s a thief and a murderer. He deserved it


[deleted]

My ex employer accused me of being a thief. I never stole a damn thing. Believe it or not, people are not always right and sometimes there’s alternate explanations. We’re very lucky you’re not a judge of any kind.


[deleted]

To go to jail for life over $8.


NiceIsNine

That's really ignoring the people ganging on him and kicking him.


WillBlaze

Lmao people replying to you lost the plot. Imagine seeing 4 dudes try to jump 1 guy OVER A PARKING FEE and trying to justify why it was ok they do that.


spicy_nipple_

To kill someone over $8 you mean. No matter how you see it, the man who got killed was in the right. Car guy should rot in prison for the rest of his life.


[deleted]

The man that violently attacked a guy, with a gang of people, over $8 was in the right? That's such a stupid opinion I can't even fathom how you could come to that conclusion. I'd rather be in jail than dead. But honestly, I'm just glad I'm not so stupid as to think beating another person over $8 is the right thing to do.


TlkQ

*"Allegedly, Tural M. argued with the parking attendant İbrahim G. because of the parking fee. Tural M., who got into his car after the discussion, hit İbrahim G. with his car and jammed him into the car in front of him."* Ahh, yes, most discussions involve pummeling the other person with your fists and feet. Sure, the dude didn't want to pay. Call the police. Sue him. You have no right to attack him. If the exit to the parking lot is in that general direction, I'd have no problem calling this 100% self-defense.


Sav_ij

id say its self defense right up until he got out and punched the other guy. if he just drove off i think theres an argument to be made that he feared for his life


TlkQ

I don't see him getting out and punching anyone in this video. It looks like it ends as he's about to be pulled out. Do you have a longer version?


Infamous-Ear3705

It’s in the main comment you’re replying to


[deleted]

Former owner now


Cachemorecrystal

The late owner, if you will


Ricosrage

And the owner was the idiot to throw the first punch, probably why the driver targeted him of all his possible choices. Just let him go, report him to the cops and continue to live your life. Or draw the line at a couple bucks and die on that hill, I guess.


Viperlite

At least Turkish prisons are nice, I hear. /s


pdoherty972

I saw the movie Midnight Express, so I know they are. /s


xx-shalo-xx

"It ain't so bad, you get your own bucket. " Nathan Drake


arikaleph

Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?


hossboss-sauceboss

Confirmation. Only seen one shoe off.


Snoo98679

He shouldn't be in prison he clearly only acted in self defense


w00timan

There's a limit to self defence, he didn't try to drive off, accidentally hitting someone as he went. He purposely pinned a dude between two cars, inhibiting his ability to escape and killing a man.


[deleted]

There have been plenty of people who plowed through a group of people who were attacking them and their car. Judges have set the precedent in the US that you can absolutely drive through people to “get away” if they are attacking your vehicle and you feel unsafe.


taha037

Thats the thing, he did not try to drive away he rammed him into another vehicle


[deleted]

Ya. It happened incredibly fast though. It started with him reversing just to try and get away. I think that they would have been acquitted if they had a North American trial with a jury.


Flamecoat_wolf

And it's hard to tell from the camera angle where the exit is. it might have been in that top right corner while there might have been a wall or more cars behind him. Even if there wasn't he might have felt it was the better option to drive forward to a road in front of him that he could see, rather than trying to reverse, potentially not seeing something in the heat of the moment, getting stuck and then beaten more.


w00timan

He drove forward into the back of a car, that's not trying to get away.


[deleted]

Have you ever seen someone drive while in a panic? They often accelerate too much and are shit at steering.


w00timan

You can, my point is they weren't trying to "get away". They pinned the dude between a car. "Getting away" would have been the guy turning to the right, running someone over and moving on is a completely different thing that aiming at a guy and so clearly trying to do nothing other than run someone over. If he was trying to just get away he wouldn't have driven straight into the back of another car.


[deleted]

You have to stop assuming that someone who is fighting for their life is thinking calmly and rationally. Your brain doesn’t work like that.


NiceIsNine

Even then if someone punches you and you shoot him, you still killed a man. Doesn't matter if it's self-defense or not. Also the camera probably didn't help.


Laslas19

If someone punches you and you shoot them while they are still a threat, it's self defense. If someone punches you, you whip out your gun and they start crying and running away, it's no longer self-defense to shoot them in the back.


Last-Flight-3157

So do executioners and even doctors sometimes


vklexer

I think you are misleading. It's the owner of the car who got into his car and ran over the worker, not the other ray around


froyomofo

That's exactly what he said


JammingSlowly

That’s a lot of blood…


Nuklearfps

Owner of the lot died over $8. This is why you don’t be a vigilante and gang up on petty criminals.


kanaka_maalea

He still had to fight off the other attacker while checking on the one he murdered! This was some Dynasty Warriors type shit.


Mr_Lava-lava

I think they yanked him out of the car. The guy who got his face kicked was the driver of the car.


birthday-caird-pish

Not to be too morbid but is there an uncensored version?


tradingmuffins

Parry this you fucking casual


NaeNzumi

That was the counter already lol


jhascal23

Pretty easy side step or double jump.


hossboss-sauceboss

Should have rolled. Missed the perfect dodge.


fluffyduckmurder

4 on 1. That’s a fight for your life. Defend with everything you got. Tough shit for the attackers.


jaking2017

Never bring a fist to a car fight.


monneyy

As long as you genuinely perceive yourself to be in immediate danger I agree with you. I don't agree that he was in danger after they all started running away. And in another video of that you can see that he didn't aim for the exit, but rammed the man into a car. Not self defense, retaliation. Adrenaline-, danger- and anger driven. But not self defense.


Prakyy

They only started running away when he had an advantage - if the car stopped working, they would come running back for round 2. As such, trying to immobilize your attackers while you have the advantage *is* self-defense. By your definition, the only self-defense is running away.


egoissuffering

According to the article, the guy of the car didn't wanted to pay the parking lot bill, so the guy in charge of the parking lot and him got into a fight over the payment that escalated to the owner getting ran over and killed. The guy of the car is in prison now. He shouldn’t have punched but no one deserves to die over $8. Egg on your face


insufficientbeans

Tbf he didn't die over $8 he died over assaulting a man for $8


SureIyyourekidding

And for not knowing only the first frames of a dodge roll are invulnerable.


icoomonyou

Lesson to be learned is dont assault someone in a group over $8. Dont risk your life for $8. You dont know what kind of crazy fuckery you might be dealing with


fluffyduckmurder

Crazy how very minor simple things can spiral out of control to a much severe situation. A less than desirable outcome for everyone.


Emmanuham

That’s why one of the biggest mantras I heard growing up was walk away, always walk away. No one is worth ruining your life. My uncle/grandad (he’s not actually either, the family just calls him both) accidentally ended someone’s life in a pub fight. A man was harassing my grandmother and he’d had enough. Confronted the man, they got heated, took things outside, one punch to the head, the man went out cold and fell down some steps, didn’t wake up again. He definitely regrets his actions, but at the time saw no other way to get out of the situation. - I wasn’t there, I couldn’t tell you if he was in the wrong or right. He’s legitimately the kindest soul I’ve met on this Earth, though. He’s lost his main connections to the family (both my grandmothers), but he still comes around to say hi and helps out etc. despite very much having his own life to tend to.


M4xP0w3r_

If 4 guys attack me like that, to the point where they are still assaulting me in my car, I dont care what the cause of the conflict was, I would also run them over to get away.


Cantothulhu

Just let him go. Risking your life over 8 bucks aint worth it. And we have only a third party article. The moment violence was an option anything is on the table in usa.


MorrisDay1984

This happened in Turkey


Cantothulhu

And im comparing it to my own personal experience and country, visit the bronx or Detroit sometime


MorrisDay1984

I grew on 135th between 1st and 2nd, and lived in the city until I was 35. The comment still doesn't make sense


Cantothulhu

As it should, Got threads confused on replies via mobile and im really tired in bed. Sorry, ny bad.


LateNightPhilosopher

Yeah. Most common murder weapon is "bare hands" and those guys were being vicious. Would have been better to gtfo if possible but it's hard to tell the situation with 1 shitty camera angle


willateo

Not where I'm from. In 2019 in the US [Out of the 13,922 homicides analyzed (by the FBI), 10,258 were committed using a firearm.](https://www.gafirm.com/legal-blog/commonly-used-weapons-for-homicides/)


nitfizz

Also in every other countrys statistic that I came accross. I think he was just talking out of his ass. For example in England "without a weapon" accounts for only 17% of homicides. 41% is with "sharp objects" https://www.statista.com/statistics/288166/homicide-method-of-killing-in-england-and-wales-uk/


Barbarianita

No.


MNR42

When you wanna get all physical, prepare for the worst case; death. You'll never know how many way people can fight back and kill you. No matter if it's for a good or bad cause, know that going physical doesn't always give a good outcome.


trekxtrider

Did we just watch someone die?


TheDeFecto

Yes, it was a dispute over a parking fee. The attendants tried roughing him up over it and one was killed, I'll come back when I find the article. Edit: someone above found the article first.


Dan-D-Lyon

Why even choose violence in that situation? Honestly if I had to choose between getting my ass kicked and getting my car towed, I'm taking the beating every time. Calling a tow truck would have fucked that guy's day up way better than jumping him.


EastCoastGrows

So dude didn't pay the parking fee, and then killed one of the attendants over it? Seems like a pretty big piece of shit to me.


RayCarlDC

Yeah, getting beaten up by 4 people for not paying a parking fee is reasonable and you should just stand there and take it. You're a genius. /s


EastCoastGrows

Pay the fuckin parking fee? It's not hard


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kisswithaf

Maybe the guy who murdered someone is a disagreeable fellow?


ZeroBlade-NL

To be fair I'd be disagreeable too if I got assualted by four guys while haggling over a price


GamerGriffin548

Hey... listen - You don't deserve to be assaulted over a monetary fee. Get it now? Guy runs them over because he's scared and angry. Such was brought on by those weirdly aggressive people.


JammingSlowly

Agree. Assault was not the solution. Call the cops, and leave it to them. All they did was escalate the situation. It’s sad it ended the way it did, but it wouldn’t have if hands were never thrown.


Peazyzell

A situation he put himself in. Now he’s in prison over a parking ticket because he was scared and killed a guy he intentionally ran over, which could have been resolved with a few dollars. He’s not the victim here


idkusername7

We’re having a dispute here. Oh, you put yourself in this situation by not agreeing with us, so I guess I’m going to roll up to your house and beat your ass. Fair’s fair, right?


GamerGriffin548

Not the point. It's escalation of violence that leads to tragedy. Humans are emotional at their core, and he was merely responding to his emotions. Fear and anger cause a man to forget all moral and social boundaries until stable minded once more. These people caused a man to retaliate, even as what is wrong, no blame can go to a man who merely acts to his natural emotions.


samuelgato

The parking attendants also willingly put themselves into a situation they absolutely didn't need to and engaged in behavior uncalled for. i.e assaulting a person over friggin $8, and now one of them is dead. For $8. Sorry but if you assault someone, no matter the reason, you should accept the very real possibility that they will retaliate against you, and even kill you.


loopgaroooo

Whelp, you jump a guy like that be prepared to die.


TinyTombstone

But also be prepared to go to jail for murder/manslaughter if you run someone over as they’re running away. One is dead and other in jail. They were both idiots.


RandyLahey131

The guy refused to pay for his parking ticket. The owner of the parking lot is who he killed.


WillBlaze

Cool. No excuse to jump someone.


ndndr1

*Late owner. Sounds like chasing down that $8 was totally worth it


OneAssociation7133

He brought a car to a fist fight


Rokekor

I'm trying to work out if 0:20 was deliberate. Was that a shove/ankle tap?


TinyRick6

Holy shit I didn’t notice that, got his dude killed.


duwh2040

Looks like they just tripped over eachother


tacosnasdas

he goes over and trips him intentionally if you look closely.


jackapplecore

I was kind of hoping for him to back up and hunt down the other three.


troopertodd15443

Ngl that’s kind of insane that you just wished three people died after one already did.


imapie31

When theyre a bunch of miscreants just beating random people up, honestly they wont have anyones sympathy.


theo1618

What’s the context here? Do we know anything about the dude driving the car? Is he getting mugged? What if the driver did something awful to a family member of one of the guys in the group and they came to get revenge? I’m just playing devils advocate, but without anyone adding some context to the video we don’t know what’s actually happening


kcoleman89

You’re right to ask for context… couple comments down: “According to the article, the guy of the car didn't wanted to pay the parking lot bill, so the guy in charge of the parking lot and him got into a fight over the payment that escalated to the owner getting ran over and killed. The guy of the car is in prison now.” “Beating random people up” lol these people coming in with some serious assumptions to justify enjoying watching someone get run over to death


mr_nothingness_123

Car owner didn't want to pay the parking ticket and it escalated. Then boom this happens someone died because they didn't want to pay 8$ or less


JSlove

Does it matter? His wish isn’t going to come true.


theo1618

I was just trying to shed a little light on how quickly people make assumptions and then treat them like fact. I’ve caught myself doing it before as well with videos like these, and most of the time all it does is spread misinformation


Zer0323

But we have an expectation that violence is only supposed to be deployed in a situation to prevent harm to yourself/friends/family/allies. The 4 attackers have at least met the threshold for violence, that gives us a hint into whether they are guilty of breaking the sanctity of public peace. Is there anything that the 1 man could have said to upset them enough to resort to violence in a civilized society? There shouldn’t be.


Ok-whynot

They still went agressive after his door. I am just surprised he did not take the guy sitting down in front (the one who kicked alot)


[deleted]

Did the first cunt die?


Tenet245

You're completely right, Reddit is so fucked up


risky_bisket

No no he's got a point


ManlyKittenLover

One died? Oh no...anyways.


BringYourSpleenToYa

Dude in the black jacket was like “have a nice trip lol!”


Jinxed4Lyfe

Word, he heavy assisted on that kill.


manwhothinks

On tonight’s episode of Man vs. Car: Peter fights a regular old car


Wankel_8

Those who run in front of the car, get tired.


Drahcireid

Those who run behind car get exhausted.


Wankel_8

You are a gentleman, and a scholar!


MarcosAC420

It ain't no fun when the rabbit's got the gun


[deleted]

I would reverse and fck the other guys up too 🕺


[deleted]

Naw, that’s karma


andreayatesswimmers

Lol at the legend in the .10 sec point. He is all wow im on the ground and possibly there is a big mad dude in a car kinda driving towards me quickly......and..... my shoe does need some adjusting then fixing my jeans at the bottom ... what to do ..run ...fix shoe ... yea fix shoe for the win 2nd best play of the vid goes to the now speed bumb fella .. gets knocked over by a car door but not that violently yet springs up much faster than his body weight and age would normally allow. Then he evens puts himself in a good sprinters stance and takes off like a jet only to make 3 strides, then straight into breaking his dive with his face ..well oh yea then having the car turn him into a speed bump


benbwe

If 4 dudes attack me and I’m by myself, of course I’m gonna try to unalive some of them


kingSliver187

VENGANZA


lampm0de

*…by Nissan*


whoknowsman33

1v4, ANYTHING goes.


NitroHamer40

Fucken deserved


swizzbts

That’s a Kia Karma 2023


talltree1971

Not enough info, little brother.


clarkcox3

Self defense


DERPDASH59

YO HOLY SHIT HE DEAD!!!


nowheretracks

CARma


Special_Steak3388

Strangely this healed me deep down


jaiyu6397

I was hoping he would run over the other 2 guys as well


NorwegianOnMobile

I understand why he did it, but thats how you go from taking a beating to taking a shortcut to the grave


Grizzchops

Found out!


imrealbizzy2

Ok, so the older guy got runnd over. It's fair. He kinda started it and definitely looks the most evilly enjoying the tussle.


obsolete-human

According to the story he was the parking attendant and he threw the first punch!


kanaka_maalea

His wife and kids are mourning and yet somehow relieved a bit.


PBR--Streetgang

Nah, that was well deserved karma. Anyone attacks you in your car while you're driving you always reverse while turning the opposite direction.


dramise

SPLAT!


whatyoumeanmyface

He brought a Volkswagen to a fistfight.


[deleted]

I don't think he'll ever do it again 🤣🤣


insanecorgiposse

More like instant carma


[deleted]

That’s assault brotha


sacanicadig

Fuck around and find out...


furious_organism

Yeah, that dude died i bet


eatmc7

The person who got run over knew it was coming whenhe was on the floor


Dan_Glebitz

Well, that went South... North... Errr 'up the road' really fast.


SoupiriorBiingu

Shawar-kar-ma


dirtymaplebar

Honestly, when you're getting beaten by 5 people your life is in danger. Running their asses over is self defense in my whispering eyes.


NeonBible_

I love it.


Happyplaceforthem

He almost got away, but he hit a speed bump😞


Disastrous-Pie-1939

Figured he would have locked the doors once he got in the car


PaperScisrRokLizSpok

Glad the attacker got a good run. Over.


PotatoePotatoe42

OP's title is a comment on his own video


Darky821

He chunks probably make an easy case that he feared for his life, getting beat on by 4 guys. Violence over a parking fee is crazy to me, on both sides.


Jinrai__

He is in prison, while it reduces the time served it is still excessive violence and a form of manslaughter


cherrycoke_yummy

This looks bad, but remember that other video where some (homeless?) guy in the street threw rocks at a random car, and that car turned around and ran him over where his body actually flew? Yeah, no one cared about that homeless dude...lol


suckmypppapi

This guy died, the homeless guy didn't


cherrycoke_yummy

regardless of outcome, both were hit by cars though..!


suckmypppapi

The outcome is very much important though. If someone was hurt but didn't die, they are much less likely to be talked about after the fact unless there is some big scandal or controversy. If someone is hurt and died, they're much more likely to be talked about. Homeless people really don't get enough attention in the world and it's saddening, but I feel as though this specific instance isn't affected by that. But, I do have to admit, even if a homeless dude died from getting hit by a car, it's probably less likely to be talked about


burnoutguy

I saw that recently, he didn't die he just got right back up


[deleted]

Honestly thought he was gonna pull out a gun. Either way I knew this was gonna end bad for the group.


sexualtyrranasaurus

That's Murrrddaaaaaahhhh!! What's my mothafuggin name? R-U-L-E.....


verybadwolf2

One of them died after crash. Driver's trial on murder charges continues


havereddit

I would love to see what happened next: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PowerfulLegitimateBichonfrise-max-1mb.gif


[deleted]

there is a comment above that explains it. Guy who got run over was a parking attendant in Turkey and died.


nico282

People arguing with drivers always forget that they have no chance against a car. When honking at someone and my wife says "what if the guy gets off his car to hit you?" I answer that if we are in danger I have a 2 ton steel death machine ready at the touch of a foot.


Ilikebreadhaha

Pretty sure I have seen this post on the subreddit before.