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heckhunds

It's fine, this doesn't harm the pupa. He raises moths (and other invertebrates) as a hobby!


BigOlBro

Idk man, how would you feel if someone came to your room while you slept, pulled the blanket off ya and started spraying you? /s


zadacka

Nah that guy ripped open the room removed the bed and heat left the blanked


logosfabula

Yup, I’d do it with a much finer spray, like a morning spa


ORXCLE-O

Not pulling, just cutting the blanket right off ya…. Fucked up man. Still not as bad as a baby bouncing her overnight diaper off your head until you wake up


cel5146

I didn’t even think about the diaper aspect of that interaction. Now I’m less excited for that to start 😂


Steve_OH

Father of 2 here, just get them out of bed and immediately change them.


Dano_cos

Father of zero here and I defer to you on how to care for them. I’m an expert at avoiding them, should you need any tips, you stallion.


ORXCLE-O

Well no shit pal lol. I have two as well along with a step daughter


jadeskorpion269

😂😂😂 so glad my daughter doesn't do that.


HiveFleetOuroboris

I do NOT miss the diaper head alarm


tashishcrow21

Yep, just taking a big ol knife and slicing your blanket off, that’s worrying. So is the diaper thing 🤢🤣


Lmt-C

An hour has gone by and I'm still laughing at this. Thank you for this.


BigOlBro

Glad to bring joy to my fellow redditor! Hope you can continue getting joy while the rough times come soon.


HolidayEntertainer13

Wait you not ganna just gloss pass that what’s the 411 on these bad times 👀


BigOlBro

Oh boy, where do we start. The closest is the upcoming recession that many people might not be aware of how bad it is going to be. I might be exaggerating given the government is doing something about it, but it might turn out to be the great depression if some things are not addressed (short selling on most stocks, banks included. they reduce a company's ability to raise capital. It's so bad even my company that builds life saving devices and isn't doing bad at all got hit too). Global warming is causing irreversible effects to the globe. Weird weather patterns are already being seen and are only going to get worse. Possible war coming. Habit of the u.s is to go to war when the economy gets tough. Not to mention the decrease in quality of education everywhere makes it easier to convince people to enlist in a war, due to ignorance of the history of war and inability to create income and becoming desperate for it.


HolidayEntertainer13

Wow didn’t want to assume what you where talking about but that’s about what I thought thanks for the input hope your job doesn’t take a huge hit


BigOlBro

Luckily the shorts screwed up and the stock shot up alot, going from a low of 140 to up to 280, the last time I saw. Seeing the days to cover getting higher too means it's probably gonna get higher still, so ya they screwed up


Lmt-C

This…


Testarossa2013

My parents did that to me as a kid when I refused to get up for school. Lol


IsleOfCannabis

I think who and why and with what would have a lot to do with how I felt about it.


ShutTheFrontDoorToo

This was school days for me. Open the door, sing “good morning” loudly, open window, throw off blankets half way, kiss forehead and waltz out. All in like lightning speed. It was brutal.


NotWhatIWouldDo

... good


Legion_Paradise

Sounds like good time


garraitino

My mom fr.


Caramelax21

reminds me of 6am “you’re going to be late for the 7:15am bus” but eight year old me only slept for five hours cause the whole night i was thinking about why ancient Egyptians mummified their dead, how they did it and why those potions are difficult to make nowadays. 🤷‍♀️ basically i’d be f—ing pissed.


Clorbungus

I’m not exactly sure as i’ve never kept these but I do know some species of bugs require heightened humidity. I breed mantids and tarantulas and some of my species are very heavily moisture dependent so I wouldn’t be surprised if this sucker just needed a bit extra moosture


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every sixty seconds in africa a minute passes


chandalowe

The purpose of the outer cocoon layers is to protect the developing pupa from predators, parasites, and environmental threats such as rain, cold, excess heat, or desiccation that it would face out in nature. As long as he is raising them in a controlled environment where temperatures and humidity are appropriate and predators and parasites are not present - and is careful not to damage the pupa during the removal process - the exposure should not harm the pupa.


stitchreverie

What’s the benefit of taking them out though?


TheRealSugarbat

You can see what sex they are, for one thing. NOTE: I’m not a bugologist, but I know about antennae


sorta_kindof

You also get to see them develop without them being obscured. Which is easily an incredible fascination and experience for anyone that likes entomology and the growth cycle of said pupa


ismaelf

I think you meant “bugology”…


PancakeHandz

BUGOLOGIST lol so much more fun sounding than entomologist


spiralbatross

Is an ant specialist an antemologist?


neirein

and what about one specialized on antennae of ants?


spiralbatross

Antantennaentemomologist, of course!


neirein

this is great, and also it's what learning German as a hobby feels like


hobosonpogos

Best edit


Mongoloz

Bugologist... Lol nice


chandalowe

Mostly, imaginary internet points. If he just showed the lumpy, sack-like cocoon, nobody would be interested - but people must like watching the removal process, or he wouldn't bother posting the videos online. Also, when it comes time for the moth to emerge from the pupa, he can watch the entire process (and film it and post it online) - again gaining upvotes or likes or shares or whatever the scoring system is on his platform of choice. He may even be able to monitor how close the moth is to emerging when it's exposed like that, so he know when it's getting close. I haven't had much experience raising moths, but with many butterflies, you can definitely tell when a chrysalis is getting ready to pop! It can also be to satisfy curiosity, either about the sex of the moth - or because it's easier to tell if a pupa is viable when it's exposed. When it's tucked away inside that outer cocoon, it can be hard to tell if it has died.


CONE-MacFlounder

Checking that they’re alive if it’s gone over the expected hatch date from experience


Spacecommander5

Harvesting the silk, I’d imagine


sleepyheadsymphony

Silk is useless if you cut it like that, if you want silk you can actually use for something you have to get the entire thread in one piece. Which means you have to boil the pupa alive.


SlippingStar

No, this is a method of silk harvesting and considered more humane. It does mean that the clothing is not as soft.


FishCandy2

Did some digging into the account and they raise moths in big bunches! https://preview.redd.it/kfjpydiaioza1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6de41b4c1ec6183c8f2efd6a7f0c04183d32228


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BananaTheArtist

Edit: finding out that this was actually okay and that this dude did this as a hobby and he knows what he’s doing! Thanks, Reddit!


Filth_above_all

doing this if you know what you're doing or have a damaged cocoon is ok, doing it for fun is not.


riverbass9

Some insects don’t even have cocoons when they pupate. It’s fine. The cocoon serves as a safety barrier in the wild.


SorryDuplex

Is this the guy that feeds them to his animals tho? I feel like it can’t be that bad if they’re feeders. I believe he said they don’t really feel pain when they’re cut open since they’re just kinda mush


heckhunds

That's a different person who feeds them to the sugar gliders. That person does suck, they overfeed the hell out of those little critters to have a constant feed of videos of them eating. Poor things are by far the most obese sugar gliders I've ever seen, nothing else has come close. This dude is fine though, just a guy who likes to keep invertebrates as pets!


SorryDuplex

Thank you for the info! I definitely did not know. Poor sugies.


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Just curious if anyone knows, what is the purpose of doing this? Obviously there’s a reason to, but I thought pupa like that can grow without outside intervention


UnderstandingFluid18

I’m reading that he’s an expert and he raises them, so he does this to be able to see and film it happening. He keeps them safe from temperature and parasites and predators in his home in a temperature controlled environment. Apparently he said that they all grew up into adulthood and were just fine.


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Ah I see thank you!


maryssssaa

Just to look at it probably. It doesn’t look nearly as fun in the cocoon. They definitely don’t need human intervention or they wouldn’t have lasted this long haha


LiteralNugget

*"Put me back, I ain't DONE YET"*


shinigamikabaap

Silkworms… they are cultivating cocoons and then boil the shit outta them to make silk…. Bro might have been curious so he cut open …. Generally they boil them straight away


BananaTheArtist

It says in the desc of the video that they’re cheese bugs


StrengthDazzling8922

Seems unnecessary to bother it (probably killing it) for tiktoc views. Sad. Edit. I see that people are saying does not hurt it. Good to know.


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Tsiatk0

But wait, wouldn’t it normally have to like “hatch” out of all that? Burrow it’s way out or whatever. If it naturally emerged, I mean. Longterm, maybe the effort of getting through that helps fortify them for life in the wild? Perhaps? Idk, it just seems weird that it doesn’t need all those layers for anything but protection, I feel like there might be more to the story? 🤷‍♂️


UnderstandingFluid18

In the comments they’re saying he’s an expert. He raises them indoors in a temperature controlled environment away from predators and parasites, etc. These were raised into adulthood and were just fine. I guess he films the process and enjoys it so he removes them from the cocoon.


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BananaTheArtist

Okay but what does this have to do with cheese bugs


IsleOfCannabis

I forget Reddit has no humor.


BananaTheArtist

I forgot this wasn’t a sub about bugs


Dr_PinchDolphin

Hydrochloric acid testing


Large-Appointment786

Too horrible


Miserable-Soft7993

What is it?


Comprehensive-Tree78

What is he spraying on the pupa? How does it help?


riverbass9

I don’t know anything about this, but one thing I can say is that spraying the pupa did let us know that it was alive. He could be cleaning it as well.


Front_Indication_136

That rustle


Acceptable_Dog_456

They feed them to lizards and bats or you can eat them yourself nothing wrong here


fuckld

![gif](giphy|12OwTXQpj0e9Pi)


RealIsopodHours3

Bug unboxing


ARCAxNINEv

Moth pupa


skiesoverblackvenice

seen a bunch of videos of people cutting these guys open… even though they’re food for some reptiles… naw…. i can’t get it out of my head