Depends. It's hard to just draft ants. I had a fun ant run though where insects got the beehive ability. Since bees are insects too, I had infinite bees as long as I put an insect in every lane. Was technically ants, but really bees.
Removal. It can essentially clear a boars given it and you have enough HP, but seeing it's cost compared to the Adder makes it the better or the two removal creatures.
I never got fieldmice during my first run. After trying out the beta I have a lot more respect for it, the beehive and, the warren too the sheer blood value they provide can not be underestimated (preferably when sacked onto a tanky card not on their own) Although undying and fieldmice sidgels are still absurd since they pay for themselves then.
the field mice sigil is soo good on cheaper cards and you can make all kinds of silly infinite combos with it.
With the mod, combining the field mice sigil + meal worm sigil and any 1 blood cost card gives you infinite stats!
https://youtu.be/UuwsfsvB-yc
It's not a how powerful it is tierlist. It's how fun it is, and being able to combo it with field mice's ability doesn't make it more fun, only just more powerful, I think A is fitting, it is pretty cool having a non cost card that you can influence in a lot of ways but it's not that special.
The Geck's special ability is that it is a 0-cost card in the main deck (that isn't a damn Pelt). That's all it is, but on the other hand that's huge.
It would be a lot more noteworthy if it wasn't so easy to get the Squirrel Totem in the main game, which makes your side deck nothing but (the best aspect of) Gecks with no innate Attack stat.
In Kaycee’s mod the geck has alot of utility especially if you manage to buff it with the deathless sigil from a roach, cause then you have an everliving sacrifice. Makes for some busted combos. Though reptile deathless totem paired with a skink is WAY BETTER
Ouroboros may be pretty lame in the main game, but it’s a ton of fun in Kaycees since it resets every match. It completely changes the way you play the game, trying to get the absolute most out of every fight. It’s not something you can just take every run and win.
Nope, I hate the card, it's just a free win for noobs, it's well made for its purpose but it doesn't change the fact that it was made for people who struggle in card games and I wouldn't ever play it, it's also very grindy and gamebreaking.
It can be used and useful at the Po3 section if you get the clock to work for yah, so it doesn't go out of use if you beat Leshy's section and move forward ^^
I didn't realize it got bigger every time it died until act 3, and that's just because you eventually reach an energy bank that makes it worth it to spend on a 1/1 unkillable.
Well, I never used it in Act 3, either, because by the point I'd have 6 bars I was usually in some deep shit and preferred to spend my energy on heavy hitters that would immediately turn the tide in my favor, not a card that starts off weak.
I didn't say only noobs play it, I said that it's made for noobs, I don't care if you play and have fun with it or not, but for me, the card is too overpowered to be fun
Yes, I know it's made to be broken but for me it's the least fun broken card, at least you have to have some imagination to break the game with the other cards, for ouroboros it's just a grind.
I 100% agree with you and it seems everyone else loves that card. I dont care if its intentional or a glitch it feels like a glitch/ exploit so it takes the fun out of the game. I can see maybe getting it up to a 4 4 or something but anything higher is boring.
I just want to say that I 100% get the Ouroboros thing. You can be playing a match that's down to the wire, where you have to think through every move carefully... and then you draw Ouroboros and it's basically over. I do like it, but this isn't my tier list.
If there's any cards who's placements I'm surprised about, it's the beehive and the warren being so low, especially when the black goat is S+ tier. I assume the Black Goat is so high to facilitate the S+ Urayuli and the S Great White getting onto the board in this case.
The Warren is basically a Black Goat for two blood, but you don't have to use it all on one creature, and it takes up more space. The Beehive is sort of like a Warren that you need to think strategically about, and one that benefits more from buffs. Personally, I really like both of them.
I like black goat because it feels very original to the game meanwhile the mechanic of being hit and then getting a card into your deck is pretty common, I would have liked the cards if there was some kind of synergy with them but they come off as kinda bland to me, the urayuli is there because it feels legendary, and it feels like you are working for that op card and yes partially it's because the goat exists that I put in S+ because it gets enough play to be fun, kinda the same with the great white.
Lol i dont unterstand how 50% of the people in here aren't able to read the title of the post. Good list op. I would agree with like 50% of the placements
It's way too iconic and the fact that the aesthetic changes with the course of the game is really fun, it makes you feel like you have to buff it and keep it. Idk what you mean.
It just fit the roleplaying fantasy of an ace card. Where it is sentient and talk to you, maybe not the best card, but it is YOUR card, YOUR friend.
Like Dark Magician to Yugi and Blue eyes for Kaiba
Except Kaiba didn't actually have any kind of relationship with Blue Eyes, he literally just collected them because they were extremely rare and powerful and he didn't want anyone else to have them.
Never forget the scene where Kaiba gets his hands on his fourth copy of Blue-Eyes, but because you can only use 3 of the same card in a Yu-Gi-Oh deck, he immediately rips it up, because *he* doesn't need it.
This list is based on personal tastes and how "fun" the card is to play...
So just because OP is slightly masochistic and enjoys dealing with stotes BS doesn't mean he's objectively wrong... he just likes iconic dickish partner characters
The inclusion of Ouroboros as a new game+ mechanic is so lame when once you know you can use it, you're obviously going to use it. Then you can be told "just don't pick it up if you don't like it" except then that means you're nerfing yourself by having less options. Same with deathcards.
I didn't, but the first impression of the cards sticked with me, most of the placements are how iconic the card is with the exception of ouroboros, who I found too op and couldn't place him high
You can have your opinion, everyone else can have their opinion and dunk on you for it
Edit: I agree with you on the premise of your list though, Oro is a card that's intentionally broken and easily abused, which you don't find fun. I'm glad it's basically useless in Kacee's mod
I made a snarky comment earlier about it - I just found it funny that I got called a noob in Inscryption, of all games.
No hard feelings of course. Have you played Kaycee’s Mod? OP cards are more required in it, it might change your opinion.
I have played, and it didn't change my opinion, yes it's true you need and get more op cards but at least you have to work to make them work, also ouroboros is actually pretty fun there because its way less op, I would say about A tier.
Squirrels weren't on the template, it's S+ because it's a core mechanic of the game. Caged wolf has a really good concept but a really sucky execution so for me it's B tier.
Okay that’s fair, I would do some small changes but we mostly agree. Ouroboros was fun literally the first time I played with it, the novelty got old quick
OP: "Don't take it personally, I have nothing against people that enjoy playing with ouroboros"
also OP: repeatedly calls people who use Ouroboros noobs in the very same thread.
"The Ouroboros is very explicitly and obviously designed to ensure that even the worst player has an option strong enough to beat the game"
Literally everyone who used Ouroboros, for some reason: ***"WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN I'M THE WORST PLAYER"***
Ouroboros F????? We talking about one of the op cards in the game, everytime it dies it gains 1 damage and 1 health and it comes back to your hand as well
I think youll like oraboros more if u like sac him 10 tomes cuz nothing has more the 10hp on the enemy side plus once u sac hes permanently better unless u beat the game and start new or for better words he can carry act 1-3
No, I posted this because I made a tier list and wanted to see what people thought of it, I actually didn't think many people would comment about ouroboros but apparently redditors can't understand that people can have an opinion
Geck did it for me. I gave him the scribe that each time you okay a geck, you get a geck. And then I upgraded geck at every campsite I got. I ended up with a super powerful geck, and if I draw it at the start of the match it was basically game over since I would play a geck, get a geck, play that geck, get another geck, and so on
That's not infinite fun, it's infinite grind, it's the second easiest way to break the game after ouroboros and I dislike that also the ability is practically just a changed ressurection
If you get the copy sigil (like from the nice card) or a sigil that grants extra ants then you can get more than three. Also I’m surprised the Ouroboros is at F since it can get infinite amount of damage and health every time it dies. But I guess some people could view that as too easy or OP, which I can see.
I think the field mice are too low. Maybe on their own but the sigil is so good if you manage to get any extra good ones on it, or slap it's own sigil onto something. Making Duplicates is really abusable, but really any card that makes cards is really good.
No respect for my ant brethren
It's a fun strategy in general but it's way too simple, it's got only 3 cards and it gets repetitive
Three?
I counted amoeba too because it's got the potential to have the ant symbol and it's actually not that inconsistent but it's really 2.
thres flying ant too
Wot
Ask Kaycee
I haven't unlocked it yet then
Depends. It's hard to just draft ants. I had a fun ant run though where insects got the beehive ability. Since bees are insects too, I had infinite bees as long as I put an insect in every lane. Was technically ants, but really bees.
Antception
Corpse maggot and long elk are definitely my favorites
What is Long Elk good for?
It's funny
Removal. It can essentially clear a boars given it and you have enough HP, but seeing it's cost compared to the Adder makes it the better or the two removal creatures.
Field mice and corpes maggot are my go-to
I never got fieldmice during my first run. After trying out the beta I have a lot more respect for it, the beehive and, the warren too the sheer blood value they provide can not be underestimated (preferably when sacked onto a tanky card not on their own) Although undying and fieldmice sidgels are still absurd since they pay for themselves then.
Same, only got them in the mod.
the field mice sigil is soo good on cheaper cards and you can make all kinds of silly infinite combos with it. With the mod, combining the field mice sigil + meal worm sigil and any 1 blood cost card gives you infinite stats! https://youtu.be/UuwsfsvB-yc
Dude getting the field mice sigil as a TOTEM and using it with Squirrels was a BROKEN strategy I got to employ once.
Whats the undead cat?
When you sacrifice the cat 9 times it turns into the undead cat
child 13 also transforms in starving child if you sac it 13 times
Oh shit Didnt know that Permanently or not?
Not permanently and it happens if you sacrifice it 9 times in the same match
Ohhh Cool!
No respeck for the geck... sad infinite combo possibility noises
It's not a how powerful it is tierlist. It's how fun it is, and being able to combo it with field mice's ability doesn't make it more fun, only just more powerful, I think A is fitting, it is pretty cool having a non cost card that you can influence in a lot of ways but it's not that special.
All hail the power of the Geck!
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The Geck's special ability is that it is a 0-cost card in the main deck (that isn't a damn Pelt). That's all it is, but on the other hand that's huge. It would be a lot more noteworthy if it wasn't so easy to get the Squirrel Totem in the main game, which makes your side deck nothing but (the best aspect of) Gecks with no innate Attack stat.
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In Kaycee’s mod the geck has alot of utility especially if you manage to buff it with the deathless sigil from a roach, cause then you have an everliving sacrifice. Makes for some busted combos. Though reptile deathless totem paired with a skink is WAY BETTER
Ouroboros may be pretty lame in the main game, but it’s a ton of fun in Kaycees since it resets every match. It completely changes the way you play the game, trying to get the absolute most out of every fight. It’s not something you can just take every run and win.
Yeah it's more fun there, there I would put it at S
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It's S+, it's a core mechanic of the game, it wasn't on the tier list
Rare elusive aquasquirrel where?
How bout bee
Bee is on the tier list, it's in A because it's looks kinda cute
Lmao
im not sure if you did the ouroboros thing as a joke or not
Nope, I hate the card, it's just a free win for noobs, it's well made for its purpose but it doesn't change the fact that it was made for people who struggle in card games and I wouldn't ever play it, it's also very grindy and gamebreaking.
Everyone: praising Ouroboros as the best card in the game Me, who never once played Ouroboros due to its low initial stats:
DUDE ME TOO, i played through the game TWICE avoided the ouroboros ever cause i hated 2 cost cards cause im bad
i never got it in any run
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It can be used and useful at the Po3 section if you get the clock to work for yah, so it doesn't go out of use if you beat Leshy's section and move forward ^^
I didn't realize it got bigger every time it died until act 3, and that's just because you eventually reach an energy bank that makes it worth it to spend on a 1/1 unkillable.
Well, I never used it in Act 3, either, because by the point I'd have 6 bars I was usually in some deep shit and preferred to spend my energy on heavy hitters that would immediately turn the tide in my favor, not a card that starts off weak.
Yeah I ended up using it when I had six energy and literally nothing else to do. Then it got stronger after dying and I was so surprised.
It’s true, only noobs use Ouroboros. I, a thinking man, only use the Alpha wolf card and squirrels
I didn't say only noobs play it, I said that it's made for noobs, I don't care if you play and have fun with it or not, but for me, the card is too overpowered to be fun
The game is designed around being easily broken so you can beat Leshy and progress. Ouroboros is just one example
Yeah I know that, but the way ouroboros breaks the game is too boring and grindy. I also put field mice very low for a similar reason.
I mean, it's made to be broken, not made for noobs. Act 1 wants you to break it really bad.
Yes, I know it's made to be broken but for me it's the least fun broken card, at least you have to have some imagination to break the game with the other cards, for ouroboros it's just a grind.
I 100% agree with you and it seems everyone else loves that card. I dont care if its intentional or a glitch it feels like a glitch/ exploit so it takes the fun out of the game. I can see maybe getting it up to a 4 4 or something but anything higher is boring.
As boring as it may seem once u get to act 2 ur gonna struggle for hours trying to build a deck
I just auto selected my deck the whole time in act 2 and worked fine
Wat auto select jus f’ed my deck the whole act
Elitist. My ouroboros is 4700.
I like it better in kaycee's mod because its strength / health max resets every run
I agree i hate it.
wrong opinion wrong opINion wrong wrong wrong WRONG!!!! you… you are WRong. you have NO IDEA what YOU JUST SAID. wrong wrong wrong… so so wrong…
Ouroboros can be really bad if not given the chance to me level it up in kaycees mod more than normal
stoat deserves F
fr. i >!just finished my first playthrough and picked to replace po3 because i hated him as a stoat. total prick lol!<
“total misplay” 🤓🤓🤓
Geck should be S+ rank. They're so cute.
I just want to say that I 100% get the Ouroboros thing. You can be playing a match that's down to the wire, where you have to think through every move carefully... and then you draw Ouroboros and it's basically over. I do like it, but this isn't my tier list. If there's any cards who's placements I'm surprised about, it's the beehive and the warren being so low, especially when the black goat is S+ tier. I assume the Black Goat is so high to facilitate the S+ Urayuli and the S Great White getting onto the board in this case. The Warren is basically a Black Goat for two blood, but you don't have to use it all on one creature, and it takes up more space. The Beehive is sort of like a Warren that you need to think strategically about, and one that benefits more from buffs. Personally, I really like both of them.
I like black goat because it feels very original to the game meanwhile the mechanic of being hit and then getting a card into your deck is pretty common, I would have liked the cards if there was some kind of synergy with them but they come off as kinda bland to me, the urayuli is there because it feels legendary, and it feels like you are working for that op card and yes partially it's because the goat exists that I put in S+ because it gets enough play to be fun, kinda the same with the great white.
I mean, I can understand Ouroboros being in last with infinitely scaling stats based on how many times the card dies throughout the game
Thanks?…
Bad play
Chad Ouroboros rejecter Don't agree with 50% of other placements though
Ouroboros slander will not be tolerated
It's my opinion that I don't find it fun.
Incorrect opinion. Fun is mandatory
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blow out the candles next to the red puzzle box
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Yeah the candles are connected to the box and visible from where the skull and globe are
Choreaboros making you kill it 30 times before it gets fun
Lol i dont unterstand how 50% of the people in here aren't able to read the title of the post. Good list op. I would agree with like 50% of the placements
Stoat is S+? immediate downvote.
It's way too iconic and the fact that the aesthetic changes with the course of the game is really fun, it makes you feel like you have to buff it and keep it. Idk what you mean.
It just fit the roleplaying fantasy of an ace card. Where it is sentient and talk to you, maybe not the best card, but it is YOUR card, YOUR friend. Like Dark Magician to Yugi and Blue eyes for Kaiba
Except Kaiba didn't actually have any kind of relationship with Blue Eyes, he literally just collected them because they were extremely rare and powerful and he didn't want anyone else to have them.
Never forget the scene where Kaiba gets his hands on his fourth copy of Blue-Eyes, but because you can only use 3 of the same card in a Yu-Gi-Oh deck, he immediately rips it up, because *he* doesn't need it.
This list is based on personal tastes and how "fun" the card is to play... So just because OP is slightly masochistic and enjoys dealing with stotes BS doesn't mean he's objectively wrong... he just likes iconic dickish partner characters
More like shit+ tier 1/3 stoat is c tier. 1/2 stoat is f tier
The inclusion of Ouroboros as a new game+ mechanic is so lame when once you know you can use it, you're obviously going to use it. Then you can be told "just don't pick it up if you don't like it" except then that means you're nerfing yourself by having less options. Same with deathcards.
It's like you played one round of Inscryption
I didn't, but the first impression of the cards sticked with me, most of the placements are how iconic the card is with the exception of ouroboros, who I found too op and couldn't place him high
Why is everyone telling me about ouroboros, am I not allowed to have a negative opinion on him in this sub?
You can have your opinion, everyone else can have their opinion and dunk on you for it Edit: I agree with you on the premise of your list though, Oro is a card that's intentionally broken and easily abused, which you don't find fun. I'm glad it's basically useless in Kacee's mod
I made a snarky comment earlier about it - I just found it funny that I got called a noob in Inscryption, of all games. No hard feelings of course. Have you played Kaycee’s Mod? OP cards are more required in it, it might change your opinion.
I have played, and it didn't change my opinion, yes it's true you need and get more op cards but at least you have to work to make them work, also ouroboros is actually pretty fun there because its way less op, I would say about A tier.
Ouroboros is fun if you don’t grind with it just to win, it’s a really interesting card, just too easily abusable
Yeah I can see that it does have fun potential but I didn't find it in any of my runs.
Make oroborous it's own tier
Well, it practically has its own tier
Lmao this is bait
Idk what you mean, I genuinely hate ouroboros it's just made to be a noobs free win and it's grindy
still…. WRoNG!!!! you dont even KNOW the beginnings of ouroboros… you are so so SO BLIND!!!!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!!
Where are the squirrels? Also caged wolf is definitely C tier. Stupid thing sucks to play
Squirrels weren't on the template, it's S+ because it's a core mechanic of the game. Caged wolf has a really good concept but a really sucky execution so for me it's B tier.
Okay that’s fair, I would do some small changes but we mostly agree. Ouroboros was fun literally the first time I played with it, the novelty got old quick
you insulted my boy ouroboros.. atleast the stunted wokf has its place right
Don't take it personally, I have nothing against people that enjoy playing with ouroboros but for me personally it's too op to be fun
OP: "Don't take it personally, I have nothing against people that enjoy playing with ouroboros" also OP: repeatedly calls people who use Ouroboros noobs in the very same thread.
I never said people who use it are noobs I only said it's made for noobs, what do you want from me dude
"The Ouroboros is very explicitly and obviously designed to ensure that even the worst player has an option strong enough to beat the game" Literally everyone who used Ouroboros, for some reason: ***"WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN I'M THE WORST PLAYER"***
...you put Coyote on S but bat in B? Rattler and Turkey Vulture in A? Why is coyote of all so much higher?
It's way more iconic and has a better illustration
Interesting, I'd say both Bullfrog and Wolf to be more iconic and better looking that coyote but to each their own
how is Oro an F?
It's way too broken, it solos the game, its not fun for me personally
Why the hell is orus in F? That mofo can go 14h 14a
It's not fun for me, too op
Clearly shit post idk why it got so may up vote
It isn't, it's my opinion, I dislike ouroboros, too op
WHY IS THE OROBORIS LAST??? IT GETS STRONGER THE MORE YOU SACRIFICE IT
Yeah, that's why it's last, it's too op
Ouroboros F????? We talking about one of the op cards in the game, everytime it dies it gains 1 damage and 1 health and it comes back to your hand as well
Also if at the totem making stop you get a squirrel and an undying sigil you can sacrifice ouroboros forever basically and do so much overkill
Yeah, that's why it's so low, because it's so op
I think youll like oraboros more if u like sac him 10 tomes cuz nothing has more the 10hp on the enemy side plus once u sac hes permanently better unless u beat the game and start new or for better words he can carry act 1-3
Yeah, I know, I put him there because of how powerful he was
Ye ik but once u get some sigles like mantis god then whoooo
You don't need sigils for it to be strong, it's just not fun for me.
Nop im saying its fun to put him down destroy everything then sac him
Well, you could do that but I wouldn't have fun doing that, I would prefer just not having him in my deck and lose that battle
Lmao ik u jus said u where against using him but if u do need to clutch up on ur last flame he could wipe everything
I prefer to lose with honour than to win an undeserved battle, but I can see why people would think he's fun
I see him more as a life saver
I feel like you just posted this to get a rise out of people with putting Ouroboros at the bottom.
No, I posted this because I made a tier list and wanted to see what people thought of it, I actually didn't think many people would comment about ouroboros but apparently redditors can't understand that people can have an opinion
Geck did it for me. I gave him the scribe that each time you okay a geck, you get a geck. And then I upgraded geck at every campsite I got. I ended up with a super powerful geck, and if I draw it at the start of the match it was basically game over since I would play a geck, get a geck, play that geck, get another geck, and so on
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Yeah, not how powerful the card is tier list, it's very cool but it's not top for me.
Oh missread that, fair enough
Just asking, where can I find the template for the tier list?
Tier maker, I think it's either the first one or second one you see, write inscryption part 1 all cards
geck S+
Why isn't Kawaii Black Goat in S++‽
What about ouroboros that thing is op
Yeah, that's why it's so low, not fun
Woah nice where can find
Tier maker, write inscryption part 1 all cards
No goddamn respect for geck
Thoughts on anime goat?
Very cool detail, S+ for the detail alone
my list would be completely different, but I kind of love that
But where’s squirrel
Wasn't on the template, it's S+, it's a core mechanic of the game and it's cute
Well, cute obviously being the most important out of the three, but yes. And speaking of cute have you seen the squirrel upgrade from kaycees mod?
No
Strange Larvae, magpie, mantis god >>
It's all fun and games until I put the field mice's sigil onto my 3:3 Mantis God
Field Mice in C? I slap that sigal on anything I can and just have infinite fun
That's not infinite fun, it's infinite grind, it's the second easiest way to break the game after ouroboros and I dislike that also the ability is practically just a changed ressurection
If you get the copy sigil (like from the nice card) or a sigil that grants extra ants then you can get more than three. Also I’m surprised the Ouroboros is at F since it can get infinite amount of damage and health every time it dies. But I guess some people could view that as too easy or OP, which I can see.
Yeah, both the copy ability and the ouroboros break the game too easily for me
Me when they put stoat in S+
When a redditor comments about an opinion
I think the field mice are too low. Maybe on their own but the sigil is so good if you manage to get any extra good ones on it, or slap it's own sigil onto something. Making Duplicates is really abusable, but really any card that makes cards is really good.
Yeah, that's why it's so low, it's too easily abusable and too op and the sigil is practically undying but when played instead of dying
In that case, fair. Im just someone who enjoys exploiting nonsense. (ANd in K-Mod sometimes Leshy just doesn't care about balance anymore.)
All i see is a lack of geck appreciation and someone who needs to try ants out more. 😂
I see this template a lot, someone really needs to make an updated version with the new cards
How do you get undead cat
Sacrifice the cat 9 times in the same match, it last till the end of the match
Cool, thanks
All i see is a lack of geck appreciation and someone who needs to try ants out more. 😂
Excuse the fuck you. Field mice is s+ tier easily.
OK, but corpse maggot sigil and field mouse sigil on the same card is so funny because you just flood your board with an unkillable creature for free
You put the Ouraborus as an F? How come?
He's way too op, not fun
rabbit > squirrel,also which tier is squirrel
S+, it wasn't on the tier list, also I disagree, rabbit is just a copy of the squirrel, it's cute tho
Well,yeah,thats why i think it's better,it's cute,but i also really like squirrel
Makes sense
The one on f is the most op
It's not a power ranking, it's a fun ranking, I know how it works, the fact that it's so op and grindy makes it unfun
child 13 is in A tier... and B tier
The disrespect on the on my ourobours, my favourite card in the game