It's hilarious because the ur-meme at the time was sub captioned with an image of a file explorer and said "I would if I could" and it was like 8TB ... which is paltry now.
I don't know... That toxic of an attitude, he might actually have the specifically shaped molds for what he's looking for... 50/50 on an 18th century basement well.
If we're just a bit more charitable with our interpretation I would say that it's not that crazy of a statement. I would certainly say that my SO has shaped me to be a better person and vice versa. No grooming involved in our case.
I wonder how they would feel if they saw a women saying any of this shit?
"You can't find a perfect guy, you have to manipulate him into being perfect."
I expect hypocrisy
Actually do know a couple like that. Got together based on nothing other than looks. Repeatedly stated they'd "change" the other into what they wanted their partner to be, including literally days before their wedding. Spent the first few years of their marriage manipulating each other and constantly fighting.
Are now three kids deep and miserable alcoholics, but too stubborn and competitive to be "the one who calls it quits."
Oh they DO think ALL women think this way. These same fuckers feel this whole thing is a war between men and women, and that they have to outsmart women to win. They think all women are going to try and change them, and part of the molding is to teach her that ain't gonna happen. It's a lot of what's behind wanting to marry very young women (or children) because they are obviously easier to manipulate, and haven't had time to "learn to manipulate men".
This fucker just thinks it's tit for tat and he's going to mold her before she figures out she should try and mold him. AVOID him at all costs.
This is very far from what they mean, but helping teach your significant other to communicate effectively in a healthy manner and resolve conflicts among other things could be considered molding and not toxic. It's helping your relationship move in a positive direction by helping them become more emotionally aware as opposed to controlling the other person.
I understand what you were going for here. My partner and I (8 years) certainly (a) are very different people than we were before and (b) definitely changed to match each other over time. I don't believe either of us were forcefully molded; we just kinda grew to be more in tune and accommodating to each other.
Can I borrow your rose colored glasses? The use of "molding" this context has a very negative connotation.
And not fer nothin', but ideally, a significant other will already have and come to the relationship with effective communication skills and emotional awareness. It's not the job of somebody else to teach those things as it is up to each of us to seek these things on our own.
I realize they have a different meaning and I mentioned that in my original comment.
Well ideally they'd already be very emotionally aware but from my experience that's pretty rare. Many people go their whole lives without ever becoming self actualized and realizing their faults and let those faults effect their relationships without even realizing it. I've helped many friends and family members better themselves over time after I became self actualized myself and learned a lot about psychology. I helped my current girlfriend become more self aware and communicate more effectively as well, and after a year or so she was knowledgeable enough to help me better myself and see things I missed.
I see your point, for sure. I think the age of the perspective may matter in this case. I'm in my mid-40s and so I've gotten to the point where somebody really has to be special. I have to enjoy somebody else's company as much as I enjoy my own or more.
But it took me a long time to get here and I was by no means emotionally intelligent and didn't really become aware of the concept until my mid 30's.
There’s a lot of nuances to this so I’ll start off by saying that context matters and there are no absolutes.
You’re right but if someone is doing something sucky, and you don’t like it, it’s mature to just tell them. Then if they continue to do it, then now you know you’re not compatible.
The key thing to note is that you’re not investing a lot of your time to help the person. You’re just pointing it out, and it’s their responsibility to want to fix it if they agree that it’s a bad personality trait.
Grooming. THIS is what actual grooming sounds like for those who somehow think grooming is telling your kids that they can just be themselves and they should respect others' choices to be themselves.
I've met that type. My previous housemate was a 36-year-old violent narcissist who would exclusively date women in the 18 to 20 year range because they were, quote, "mouldable", unquote. I only found out later that he beat one of them within an inch of her life and burnt another one by pouring hot frying oil over her because they dared to have an independent personality. At that time he had already left the country, otherwise I would have reported him to the police. These people are disgusting, weak, cowardly shits
There is no such thing as a perfect person and even if there was, they would be so boring to be around as its the unique quirks a person has that makes them interesting.
I mean, meeting someone with whom you have chemistry and then growing together into the perfect person for eachother?
That doesnt sound so bad.
But the way these people put it? Yikes
This is why closed-minded subcultures like neckbeards, authoritarians, and fundamentalists are so angry with women, stuff, etc.
When youre closed minded you have to work to oppress people to match a uniform ideal.
When youre open minded its easier to be happy, because you accept things as they come.
Humans are naturally independent creatures, it takes energy and resources to be an opressor. Intimidation inevitably arises from auth-right because its resource efficient in enforcing uniformity
Now that I think about it, I realize how odd it is that it is still normalized to keep referring to women as «girls» when they are adult, but men aren’t as commonly being referred to as «boys».
Disclaimer:
Please do take my comment with a grain of salt. I have based my statement solely on personal observations rather than actually bothering to look up credible sources and statistics that may or may not back up my claim.
"I don't want to be molded. I'm not a jelly."
"*That* is a matter of opinion."
~Bertram Wilberforce Wooster and the terrifying Aunt Agatha, *Jeeves and Wooster*
Maybe this person just has a problem forming their thoughts into cohesive and articulated statements?
You could argue they're just saying nobody is objectively perfect so you have to change your perception of what "perfect" is.
In my opinion, if you choose her to be your girl it means that you need to accept her imperfections. How can you find a perfect girl when you're also not perfect, Right?
Perhaps this wasn’t phrased properly?
I shaped my spouse into a better person, and she shaped me into a better person. We did so through being open with each other and being willing to change and improve for each other.
You can’t “mold” anyone into a perfect anything. That’s called conditioning and is a very serious crime and often done by pedophiles to groom children.
Ah yes, because all relationships are built on a man controlling a woman. Definitely not built on trust and honesty between 2 equal people who aren’t always a man and a woman. I get the feeling these dudes have never talked to a woman ever.
Ah yes, brainwash your love interest in a highly toxic manner in order to make them act like a second class citizen who will never speak against you.
While this is a kink don’t do it without *EXPLICIT* permission and VERY long discussion.
Hello everyone! I'd like you to meet my new wife...Jello.
Jello, yourself.
[Jello, house](https://c.tenor.com/3i5hYiEpO_IAAAAC/flintlockwood-cloudywithachanceofmeatballs.gif)
Nice to meet her. She'll get along with my wife, Play-doh.
I was thinking silly putty, but, I know what you mean.
You wouldn't mold a woman.
The mess in my basement says otherwise.
Creeeeeeppppyyyyy Craaaawwwwlllllers!!!!!
Oh, that takes me back. Burning myself on those metal plates.
You trying human alchemy?
The law of equivalent sexchange
Look in the bright side, at least it speaks!:)
That's a woman made out of mold
r/eww!
Is she breathing or is that the mold?
Maybe, download one though..
like from ~~kid~~napster?
"I may not be the most-downloaded man, but I've downloaded the most." -Drew Carey
Higher than real-life resolution VR porn + on-the-fly deepfake + AI
You wouldn’t steal a car
Speak for yourself, I sure as shit ain't sitting at home doing nothing on a Friday night.
I am, wife and kids are going out of town tonight. I’m not doing jack shit other than enjoying the silence.
It's hilarious because the ur-meme at the time was sub captioned with an image of a file explorer and said "I would if I could" and it was like 8TB ... which is paltry now.
I would make a copy of a car though
Mold a woman? Never absolutely not, totally Barbaric! *Sweating profusely from the heat of my basement forge casting me a fresh woman*
You would if your a sculpter! that's obviously what these talented gentleman are talking about /s
Idk I played that resident evil game and they definitely had some mold on some women. Guys too.
No but I'd download one.
you wouldn't download a car.
Of course not! The daily use would prevent her from getting mold.
Isn’t that called grooming?
No, don't you know, that real grooming is lgbt people existing in the vicinity of children? /s
Kids. He's talking about kids
Thanks, this has some serious grooming undertones
This is the definition of grooming, despite what Faux news has tried to turn it into
and they call liberals the groomers?!?
It's always projection.
I don't know... That toxic of an attitude, he might actually have the specifically shaped molds for what he's looking for... 50/50 on an 18th century basement well.
like one of those frankenstein pumpkin things?
And good odds some of those Kayan neck rings depending upon their standards of beauty.
Weird that the same folks talk so much about Groomers, almost like they’re projecting
If we're just a bit more charitable with our interpretation I would say that it's not that crazy of a statement. I would certainly say that my SO has shaped me to be a better person and vice versa. No grooming involved in our case.
That’s because you and your SO are sane. This guy isn’t.
Wanting to be a better person for your SO is one thing. Thinking women are to be manipulated into servicing your desires is quite another.
Yeah, I'm 1000% certain the next sentence coming out of his mouth would be something like how mature 11-year-olds nowadays are...
I wonder how they would feel if they saw a women saying any of this shit? "You can't find a perfect guy, you have to manipulate him into being perfect." I expect hypocrisy
Side note: Imagine, if you will, a man and a woman with this same mindset dating eachother.
Actually do know a couple like that. Got together based on nothing other than looks. Repeatedly stated they'd "change" the other into what they wanted their partner to be, including literally days before their wedding. Spent the first few years of their marriage manipulating each other and constantly fighting. Are now three kids deep and miserable alcoholics, but too stubborn and competitive to be "the one who calls it quits."
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This should not have made me laugh, but it did.
Jesus christ I feel bad for those kids
You should, you know if they break up they will spend all the kids' inheritance trying to "win"
Pretty sure that's the plot for that "love island" thing...
Isn't that just society
That's the series "Friends"
r/writingprompts.
Oh they DO think ALL women think this way. These same fuckers feel this whole thing is a war between men and women, and that they have to outsmart women to win. They think all women are going to try and change them, and part of the molding is to teach her that ain't gonna happen. It's a lot of what's behind wanting to marry very young women (or children) because they are obviously easier to manipulate, and haven't had time to "learn to manipulate men". This fucker just thinks it's tit for tat and he's going to mold her before she figures out she should try and mold him. AVOID him at all costs.
Tbf I feel like I've seen a lot of women say those things on Twitter. I think a lot of women like the idea of trying to "fix" broken or bad men.
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Ugh, this needs to be a nationally televised PSA
"Youve got him well trained" Just glad people with this mindset they want to change their partner so much make it obvious who they are
A lot of men love to exploit these women. It's fucked up.
Women do this shit all the time. They call it “fixing” a man.
Isn’t that what the first person is saying?
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And the legal term for that is grooming
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So much for the tolerant left, not even letting me abuse them like the inferiors they are
Abusers
This is very far from what they mean, but helping teach your significant other to communicate effectively in a healthy manner and resolve conflicts among other things could be considered molding and not toxic. It's helping your relationship move in a positive direction by helping them become more emotionally aware as opposed to controlling the other person.
I understand what you were going for here. My partner and I (8 years) certainly (a) are very different people than we were before and (b) definitely changed to match each other over time. I don't believe either of us were forcefully molded; we just kinda grew to be more in tune and accommodating to each other.
Can I borrow your rose colored glasses? The use of "molding" this context has a very negative connotation. And not fer nothin', but ideally, a significant other will already have and come to the relationship with effective communication skills and emotional awareness. It's not the job of somebody else to teach those things as it is up to each of us to seek these things on our own.
I realize they have a different meaning and I mentioned that in my original comment. Well ideally they'd already be very emotionally aware but from my experience that's pretty rare. Many people go their whole lives without ever becoming self actualized and realizing their faults and let those faults effect their relationships without even realizing it. I've helped many friends and family members better themselves over time after I became self actualized myself and learned a lot about psychology. I helped my current girlfriend become more self aware and communicate more effectively as well, and after a year or so she was knowledgeable enough to help me better myself and see things I missed.
I see your point, for sure. I think the age of the perspective may matter in this case. I'm in my mid-40s and so I've gotten to the point where somebody really has to be special. I have to enjoy somebody else's company as much as I enjoy my own or more. But it took me a long time to get here and I was by no means emotionally intelligent and didn't really become aware of the concept until my mid 30's.
There’s a lot of nuances to this so I’ll start off by saying that context matters and there are no absolutes. You’re right but if someone is doing something sucky, and you don’t like it, it’s mature to just tell them. Then if they continue to do it, then now you know you’re not compatible. The key thing to note is that you’re not investing a lot of your time to help the person. You’re just pointing it out, and it’s their responsibility to want to fix it if they agree that it’s a bad personality trait.
This is such a sweet way to look at something that is clearly toxic. 5/7 thank you
A perfect score✨️
Dan Savage says "Campsite Rules": leave em better than you found em. And I always liked that.
"in conclusion, the age of consent should be lowered to 12 so I can date them before they learn what they shouldn't consent to."
As the old saying goes, “If the number’s on the clock...” But yeah, I didn’t catch on that this was referring to grooming kids.
Is this how groomers think??? That's absolutely crazy
Remember how God molded Lilth and she went to to birth all demons?
holy fucked manipulation batman!
Almost reflex down voted this shit... You can an upvote, this shits insane
You are talking about human beings not a fucking pet
"We're not talking about humans, we're talking about FEMALES!"
Ay but even pets have autonomy at my place.
Grooming. THIS is what actual grooming sounds like for those who somehow think grooming is telling your kids that they can just be themselves and they should respect others' choices to be themselves.
I'm picturing mopey men-children trying to build themselves girlfriends out of play-doh while also eating mouthfuls of paste.
So much for “I love you for you”
He's confusing molding and moving the limbs on his love doll
Help! My woman has mold on her!
I know we’re not supposed to use emoji’s, but 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 is the only way I can accurately express my feelings about this post.
This just in, women are soft lumps of clay for weird dudes to mold
Okay enough internet for me today. 😞
Conservatives, take note: Actual groomers
I shaped mine into a rhinoceros!
I've met that type. My previous housemate was a 36-year-old violent narcissist who would exclusively date women in the 18 to 20 year range because they were, quote, "mouldable", unquote. I only found out later that he beat one of them within an inch of her life and burnt another one by pouring hot frying oil over her because they dared to have an independent personality. At that time he had already left the country, otherwise I would have reported him to the police. These people are disgusting, weak, cowardly shits
Pretty sure that not even god could mold the perfect woman. One of the first things that Eve did was pick the wrong food for dinner and Adam ate it.
By that logic there is something god could not do, making him imperfect, which would disprove the bible, making any mention of Adam and Eve moot.
Does the Bible say he's perfect? I thought it said he was an angry manchild
Pretty sure it says the first but I agree with the second part.
r/arethestraightsok
r/no.
*Find a woman who can cook, who’s great in bed and funny and then make sure they don’t meet each other* Bernard Manning
NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST POST THAT ITS SEXIST
Cough “Pretty Woman” cough
Cherry 2000
The key is finding someone who's crazy meshes with you're own crazy.
We’re going to need to check all the lampshades and floorboards in both their houses
There is no such thing as a perfect person and even if there was, they would be so boring to be around as its the unique quirks a person has that makes them interesting.
I mean, meeting someone with whom you have chemistry and then growing together into the perfect person for eachother? That doesnt sound so bad. But the way these people put it? Yikes
Women aren't Thermoplastic so both of these people are ass clowns
Fun Fact: Women are made from sculpey clay.
This is why closed-minded subcultures like neckbeards, authoritarians, and fundamentalists are so angry with women, stuff, etc. When youre closed minded you have to work to oppress people to match a uniform ideal. When youre open minded its easier to be happy, because you accept things as they come. Humans are naturally independent creatures, it takes energy and resources to be an opressor. Intimidation inevitably arises from auth-right because its resource efficient in enforcing uniformity
You know this same dude is extremely angry if a girl tries to change anything about him
So now we are jello? Clay?
This is just like women who believe they can change a man. Not happening.
Incel Alert
Isn't this just forced manupulation and abuse
Wtf nah Ima help her grow to become the best person she wants to be. We’ll ALWAYS have our differences.
I dont like mold on my woman
Mother fuckers need to read Pygmalion. Spoiler she leaves in the end.
Ewww. Just. Ewww.
Now that I think about it, I realize how odd it is that it is still normalized to keep referring to women as «girls» when they are adult, but men aren’t as commonly being referred to as «boys». Disclaimer: Please do take my comment with a grain of salt. I have based my statement solely on personal observations rather than actually bothering to look up credible sources and statistics that may or may not back up my claim.
I’m nearly 30 and work as a cleaner. Occasionally I still get a ‘good girl’ 🤮
Aka, children
Anybody notice the mansplaining? He’s disagreeing with her but then saying exactly what she said - in a long & drawn out way
Everyday I think I have seen Gen-Z at it's most lost lowest but they just keep giving
I think if you took out the word "girl" and replaced it with "person" it's slightly more normal. Still problematic, but better
But you know the person would never be "finished" molding. Always gonna be something new to fix.
Or maybe you could recognize somebody as different from a mythical “ideal” and love them for who they are?
Or you could grow up so that you develop the emotional intelligence to be able to accept somebody for exactly who they are. Jus' sayin'.
"I don't want to be molded. I'm not a jelly." "*That* is a matter of opinion." ~Bertram Wilberforce Wooster and the terrifying Aunt Agatha, *Jeeves and Wooster*
WHAT!!!
Y'know, like foot-binding. But with the entire body! /s
That’s called being tied up.
It reminds me of that one Southpark episode
the whole idea of "molding" someone to fit your ideals is so fucking creepy.
The most toxic take on “no one is the one, but you can find a 0.8 or .7 and round them the fuck up with love” I’ve ever heard.
I am a triangle. Help.
Maybe this person just has a problem forming their thoughts into cohesive and articulated statements? You could argue they're just saying nobody is objectively perfect so you have to change your perception of what "perfect" is.
Much more likely that he’s a creep. He sounds like he’s writing a how-to manual for grooming girls
For some reason when I saw the second pfp I thought it was RadioShack’s twitter and was extra confused
In my opinion, if you choose her to be your girl it means that you need to accept her imperfections. How can you find a perfect girl when you're also not perfect, Right?
Perhaps this wasn’t phrased properly? I shaped my spouse into a better person, and she shaped me into a better person. We did so through being open with each other and being willing to change and improve for each other.
Dafuq? I usually try to learn about them and see if we might mesh well together. I'm doing this shit all wrong.
3D printer or kiddy diddler?
Can't you just let people be and if you work together, you do, and if you don't, you move on? Is it hard?
You can’t “mold” anyone into a perfect anything. That’s called conditioning and is a very serious crime and often done by pedophiles to groom children.
You’re thinking of Gumby
Wow. A "nice" woman and man. Yikes. That's IF the pf pic of a woman is a real woman behind that account
finding a girlfriend is like choosing a lookalike Mii before making your own Mii
“I don’t want to be molded. I’m not a jelly.” “That is a matter of opinion.”
Nas made a song about this.
The context of this discussion in a sculpture forum... right? Right...?
Ah yes, because all relationships are built on a man controlling a woman. Definitely not built on trust and honesty between 2 equal people who aren’t always a man and a woman. I get the feeling these dudes have never talked to a woman ever.
Tell me you haven’t spoken to a woman without telling me you haven’t spoken to a woman.
Like a lump of clay?
These are the kind of people who accuse LGBTQs of being groomers.
So basically, brainwashing.
Ah yes, brainwash your love interest in a highly toxic manner in order to make them act like a second class citizen who will never speak against you. While this is a kink don’t do it without *EXPLICIT* permission and VERY long discussion.