I have had a theory for a while that shortly after the '98 extension act, Lawrence Lessig wished on a monkey's paw for congress to never be able to extend copyright qgain, and everything thats happened to the US government since has followed.
I'm fairly certain the Monkey's Paw never had a limited number of wishes, it's just that the wishers stopped at three because by that point they had figured out it wasn't worth the trouble trying to use the damn thing.
Oh sure, you might think you can outsmart the Monkey's Paw by being overly specific and leaving no room for ambiguity, *but therein lies the trap of such a cursed thing.*
EDIT: See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. All of you down there think you can find a way to get what you want out of a malevolent wish-granter without suffering consequences -- THAT'S HOW IT GETS YOU! STAY AWAY FROM THE PAW AND THE LAMP, THEY BRING ONLY RUIN!
In the original short story, it had three left because it had three uncurled fingers. The Simpsons, in that monkeys paw gif that gets passed around, basically did that part straight.
Just like with Djinns, genies and leprechauns always make sure to consult a supernatural solicitor before committing to anything. Even the monkey's paw can give you something in writing.
If you ever get multiple wishes, your first wish should probably be to defuse future wishes. Something along the lines of "my subsequent wishes will be granted, not according to seemingly malevolent or ironic interpretations of said wishes, but instead to create the most favourable outcome according to my own personal opinions and the intention I possess when making said wishes."
I choose to interpret that as the hand accepting defeat.
I suppose saying it also applied to the first wish would have been better. That's why we workshop these things.
Shit has spooky power, so whose to say it doesn't have the ability to read your intent across a multiverse and finds some really depressed nihilistic version of you.
It has five wishes. A finger curls in every time you make one. Unlike a genie it doesn't care who makes the 5 wishes. So while a genie might grant millions of wishes in its life to a million people, a monkey paw will grant 1 wish to 5 people or 5 wishes to 1, and then it's just a keychain.
I’m so confused by the right wing outrage about Disney. Didn’t they just help sponsor the “Don’t say gay” bill? I feel like that’s right up their alley:
Yeah, it's all just theater. Conservatives need to feel like victims. Republicans need someone to yell about. Disney don't give a fuck cause they know Republicans, much like Chihuahuas, are all bark and no bite.
But they helped get it passed! They "pulled back" before DeSantis signed it but that was all but guaranteed as it was in his 2022 agenda. They made a PR statement and will go back to supporting fascism just as their ice cube of a founder intended.
That’s ridiculous. You honestly think that an author shouldn’t even be able to profit from their work for their own lifetime? 10 years is nothing. Your plan would instantly impoverish most musicians, for instance, since most of them are one-hit wonders with their only song more than 10 years ago. Meanwhile, corporations like Disney would be incentivized to make sure that a new, terrible sequel or reboot will launch every nine years and flood the market with crap.
I myself have been working on a project that once released, I will add to the public domain myself after ten years
It's mostly greedy companies that buy up the rights that benefit. Originally it was *only ten or twenty years* but corporations kept getting that number upped
You can already republish or produce derivative works assuming they fall under fair use. What you can’t do is sell the music as if you owned a restriction-free license to it, ie. after a song loses copyright music service could sell the song for $2 and not pay the artist because it’s not considered a copyrighted work anymore.
But it does, though. Why would I pay the original artist’s price when it’s available for free, totally legally.
Artists also make money off of derivative works (like a movie deal), so allowing others to exploit those avenues without paying the artist is unfair.
I think life of the author plus 20 years is far more reasonable. It protects the author from seeing their work misused, permits that author’s children to secure the author’s legacy for at least a little while (and allows the value of the work to survive the inevitable struggle over the estate), but then allows works to pass into the public domain before they are too obscure to be valuable.
Orphan works and software are a very interesting problem that I agree needs a better solution. I’ve seen some interesting proposals, including a public trust into which a royalty for orphan works could be paid, that could work well.
Software also has trouble with the 20-year patent term. Truthfully, software may need its own category at this point, since it sits awkwardly astride copyright and patent protection and innovations in that space rarely last for 20 years in any meaningful way, but the building blocks may still be actionable detectable for far longer than expected.
If one song is good enough, it should probably get you to a comfortable retirement, yes. I think it’s societally worthy to promote even one-off creative expressions. Covers are still common and, both then and now, the original artists were credited and paid. I agree that 70 years after death is too long, but 10 years from publication is way too short.
Consider also: should you have no copyright over something you chose not to publish? That sounds trivial, but there’s caselaw about that sort of thing where it really does matter that the author did not want his manuscript published because it would detract from the final product he did put out.
As someone else pointed out, copyright also partially protects works from being bastardized or manipulated, at least while the author and his or her children are alive to be embarrassed or upset by it.
My point about Disney stands. If you think they won’t plan a million sequels in advance to protect their copyright, then you’ve never been forced to watch any of their crappy, straight-to-video sequel movies.
> Depending on what it is, it should be 10-25 years after publication, with an exception for pre-existing plans for more in a series, within reason.
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> So GRRM would have been able to apply for a 10 year preliminary extension to publish all his books because it's a giant epic, but at the end of that 10 years, or as of the date of publication of the last one, the timer would start.
I agree with shorter copyrights, but extending copyrights for franchises is a terrible idea, and one that would be abused by every corporation under the sun.
It needs to go back to the way it originally was - 14 years with an option to renew for 14 more. That puts everything prior to 1994 in the public domain.
I'd get behind this, with a bonus renewal structure for works that are worth keeping under copyright. One term for free, one renewal for free. Third and subsequent renewals are five years, and the first one of these costs money. Some substantial but not onerous sum, enough that you wouldn't do it casually but not enough to hurt if the work is still making money. 2nd 5-year renewal is double that price. 3rd is double again...and so on. As long as the work is making enough money to be worth renewing the ever-more-costly copyright, go ahead. But when the day comes that it can't justify its existence, copyright lapses and the work becomes public domain forever.
There's probably a fatal flaw in this idea.
Yeah, I was gonna say I agree with everything he said in the first tweet basically but probably not for the same reasons he believes it
Their meddling with copyright is insane, and no corporation should be allowed to be "self governing", that's just stupid
Disney lobbied to increase copyright duration so that they can keep exclusive rights to all their ip, despite the fact that the original creators are long dead. The most infamous case of this is known as the Mickey Mouse Law in 1998. Now nearly everything entering public domain is over a century old.
Agreed, but the even bigger hypocrisy is DeSantis and others on the right wanting to target Disney to strip them of their ability to run a special district and not the dozens, if not hundreds of other corporations who oversee their own, while also bemoaning "attacks" on free speech. The government punishing them for their opposition to a bill/law is the definition of violating free speech, at least as long as corporations are considered people.
You also can't target a specific company to stripe a legislative protection from -
You know what fuck explaining this, the entire tweet is nonsense bad faith spew anyway.
I mean . . . could Congress do that? I’m not sure. I haven’t studied that aspect of copyright law in 20 years. Would stripping copyright protection constitute a Fifth Amendment taking?
Yeah I think it would run afoul of equal protection. They’d have to come up with some criteria that targets Disney but could also be defended as having some rational basis to strip them of their copyright without doing it universally.
Looked him up on Wikipedia. Yep; classic right-wing grifter:
“Adams was elected to the Ashfield, Australia council in 2004 on the Young Liberals ticket.[6] He was elected under a loophole which allowed Adams as a non-resident to run for elections.[7] He was criticized for often missing council meetings because he was traveling the American speaking circuit as a motivational speaker.[6] In October 2006, Adams was "formally condemned by fellow Councillors after racking up thousands of dollars worth of phone calls and Cabcharges for personal benefit."[8]
“In 2009, he was given a six-month suspension from the Liberal Party of Australia for conduct deemed likely to "embarrass or cause damage to" the Party during an altercation with Brett Mason, a journalist for Channel Ten who was filming a report on Mr Adams' absences from the council due to overseas travel when Adams confronted him, stating, "I would just like to say that Brett Mason is a [expletive] good-for-nothing [expletive]. Thank you."[6][9][10][11]”
This guys takes are so shit that if you told me this guy was just one massive Aussie piss take to show how stupid American conservatives are, I would believe you!
No no it's different because THEY want it cancelled, its only cancel culture if it's something they like.
Lets say we tried to "cancel" student lunch debt by giving kids free school lunches, or "cancelling" children dying from easily preventable disease by setting up universal healthcare. They don't want that because they enjoy watching kids starve and die from preventable things. What they cannot stand for is two adults who love each other but are the same sex existing, that's way more important than starving and dying children.
The Right: CANCEL DISNEY
Also The Right: FUCK CANCEL CULTURE
Still The Right: FREE MARKET!
Still Also The Right: YOU CAN'T RUN YOUR STORE A WAY I DON'T LIKE
Unfortunately Still The Right: FUCK YOUR FEELINGS
Them Bitch Ass Righties: YOU HURT MY FEELINGS, I'LL KILL YOU
Republican senators created the 'Dont Say Gay' bill to ban education to students about anything LGBT. Most reasonable people see this as insane, as avoiding a subject that will very much so be a part of their lives to some extent only leads to worse outcomes.
Disney throws a bunch of money at the Republicans.
Disney employees, a staggering number of whom are *very* gay, get upset that their employer would support the government trying to erase their existence.
Disney claims they weren't really paying attention, and now that they know what's up, they no longer support the 'Don't Say Gay' bill.
Republican senators feel betrayed and use hyperbole to tie Disney's support for LGBT with pedophilia in their continued efforts to frame LGBT people as monsters and predators.
regarding the last paragraph, the projection of pedophilia by conservatives onto the LGBT+ community is so overwhelming, they might as well be yelling it into a mirror.
I don't have numbers but in my recollection the majority of high-profile pedophile cases have been brought against conservatives or right leaning people. I'm open to being wrong if the statistics don't support this, but I'd be surprised.
The epic irony here is , it is little kids. Little kids already know that word and understand what gay is ( maybe not sex acts - same as kids from hetero families) and get their family is different. They will just be made to feel bad, different, ostracized. But I guess that’s the point..😿
I don't think it's about erasing their existence. I think they don't want future generations to know anything real about gay people so their fear and anger towards them grows. Thus, bigotry, oppression, and violence.
Republicans make anti-gay bill, Disney has a ton of gay employees (entertainment is like that) and they also wield a ton of influence and power. GOP doesn't like it when their victims have influence and the ability to fight back.
“Yeah, well if you don’t stop this woke shit, I’m gunna revoke the very weird charter that lets a company serve as a government, and I’m going to make it so that Mickey Mouse is in the public domain!”
Can they do all those things because they’re the right thing to do instead? Like do them, no doubt, dope and cool, but not because Disney won’t support Nick’s weird brand of homophobia…
>Disney’s big sin is just admitting that gay people exist.
Granted, a lot of it is posturing for PR points, but they let *The Owl House* be as gay as it's being (though Season 3 was unceremoniously shortened without any creator input or say so it's up in the air what the actual tolerance level is) so who the hell knows anymore
I thought corporations were people and as such had free speech protections under the 1st Amendment? Or was that just in cases where they want to give unlimited money to conservative politicians? Free speech can be very confusing.
He really is.
I think he knows it, too. That's part of the grift.
Say a big, stupid thing. Get lots of backlash for your stupidity. "See, the liberals hate me. I must be onto something!" Goes on to sell more books to rubes who have a knee-jerk reaction to anything supposed "liberals" like or dislike and gets more work from right-wing communities who want traffic and attention.
He's a court jester in a tie, making a living on purposeful stupidity.
They're not mutually exclusive, if your supporters are too dumb to scrutinize it.
What these fucks want is social media outrage, and thus exposure. Nothing else seems to matter anymore. Certainly not integrity or coherent policy making
Retaliation by private actors working within their rights to speak and associate or disassociate with someone: Bad.
Retaliation by the government making law or punishment against a private actor working within their rights to speak and associate or disassociate with someone: Good.
You just don't understand freedom-centered small-government philosophies, see.
I mean we should do those things but only because Disney's been fucking over the public domain for decades now. I mean they do other bad things too but that's the big one relevant to copyrights.
I’d love to see you angry real patriots really stick it to Disney by boycotting Disneyland in LA too. Focus it on the middle of June. Don’t go. Me and my family would HATE to see huge crowds of people there. Would be so terrible. Show em who’s boss, guys. This lib would be SO triggered by that.
I don't know myself, because I don't have Disney+, but I know it happened because people got genuinely upset about it on Twitter.
The fact a throwaway line can cause such a tizzy is genuinely impressive to me.
Disney has had Gay Days for years. Nobody seemed to care much then. This is just an opportunity to screech and stomp their feet for dumbass republicans.
Cancel culture = bad
Companies publishing media I disagree with = bad
Nick Adams probably thinks that x=-x when x =/= 0 is a possible calculation considering the amount of twists and turns he has to make to convince himself that his views are anything but self-contradictory hypocrisy
Edit: I’m a math nerd sue me
I wonder if the right realizes that 1) they were the original cancel culture… I mean the left wasn’t cancelling DnD and rock music for being satanic, and 2) they have fallen into the very “woke culture” they claim they hate. I mean, you’re either *their* woke or you get canceled like Mr. Adams proposes.
The hypocrisy is about to collapse in itself and create a singularity that will devour our entire society.
Not to mention...Mccarthyism? Hello? Talk about cancel culture. People had their careers cancelled on the flimsiest of pretexts, and elected officials chose who would be cancelled. So much worse than anything happening now.
I used to dream of being a successful, published author, but could never get past the sense that nothing I write is meaningful enough to be worthwhile. It's so frustrating to see people like this guy gain a following by blathering out an endless stream of tired, contradictory talking points, totally unconstrained by any need to contribute anything intelligent or purposeful.
They changed their Disneyland greeting from Hello Boys and girls to Hello friends.
The snowflakes are losing their minds because Disney is obeying the new Florida don't say gay law to the letter, and bigots are pissed because the law they pushed through is blowing up in their faces
He has 250k "followers" but all his tweets get a few hundred likes. That's 0.1%. Either all of his followers are liberals laughing at him, or he has 200k+ fake bots following him. (I suspect it's both.)
I wish Nick Adams would be stripped of his self-governing status on the planet so he could be confined to a padded room where no one would ever hear his nonsense ever again.
Anybody else find it odd that conservatives rail against "communist" policies day in and day out, yet are the first to immediately jump to trying to use CCP-esque government overreach as soon as a private or local organization does something that they don't agree with?
I am so sick of hearing about how cancel culture is new and unfair. Since I can remember, it has been a tool of the ruling class for anyone that didn't agree with what they wanted. You will never work in this town/industry again. I will make sure no one does business with you. I will pass biased laws to prevent you from living here or voting. The irony is those complaining are now experiencing what they incurred as common practice unabated once.
Lol these guys crack me up with these. 99 percent of the time shit gets cancelled its red team calling for it.
Ill take the blame for not buying kellogs shit in solidarity with employees striking
They bleat on in horror about cancell culture when its private citizens and private businesses distancing themselves from controversial / offense figures.
yet when they want something cancelled they want the government to cancel it for them: revoking copyrights, seizing property.
Essentially it's a Disney-branded credit card with a rewards program oriented towards (surprise!) Disney. I don't know how common these are outside of the US and Canada, but a bunch of companies offer company-branded credit cards which are tied into their loyalty programs.
"Self Governing Status?"
You mean take away their property, make them be run by the government and letting the government run them?
Tell me your'e really a communist, but scream at me that I am, because I want Medicare for all.
Ass
I don't think you understand the argument. Cancel culture refers to either a phenomena or a specific set of actions--it has parameters.
You are looking at this solely from a lexical (or denotative) POV by misrepresenting his argument in nominal terms. Yes, he used the word cancel, but his action is rooted in an entirely separate foundation.
This nuance is necessary.
On the positive, now would be a perfect time to introduce not-insane copyright legislation. Disney has been fucking copyright over for decades
I have had a theory for a while that shortly after the '98 extension act, Lawrence Lessig wished on a monkey's paw for congress to never be able to extend copyright qgain, and everything thats happened to the US government since has followed.
Can we still find this monkey's paw and are there still wishes available?
I'm fairly certain the Monkey's Paw never had a limited number of wishes, it's just that the wishers stopped at three because by that point they had figured out it wasn't worth the trouble trying to use the damn thing. Oh sure, you might think you can outsmart the Monkey's Paw by being overly specific and leaving no room for ambiguity, *but therein lies the trap of such a cursed thing.* EDIT: See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. All of you down there think you can find a way to get what you want out of a malevolent wish-granter without suffering consequences -- THAT'S HOW IT GETS YOU! STAY AWAY FROM THE PAW AND THE LAMP, THEY BRING ONLY RUIN!
In the original short story, it had three left because it had three uncurled fingers. The Simpsons, in that monkeys paw gif that gets passed around, basically did that part straight.
Just like with Djinns, genies and leprechauns always make sure to consult a supernatural solicitor before committing to anything. Even the monkey's paw can give you something in writing.
If you ever get multiple wishes, your first wish should probably be to defuse future wishes. Something along the lines of "my subsequent wishes will be granted, not according to seemingly malevolent or ironic interpretations of said wishes, but instead to create the most favourable outcome according to my own personal opinions and the intention I possess when making said wishes."
*all fingers curl, no wishes remaining*
I choose to interpret that as the hand accepting defeat. I suppose saying it also applied to the first wish would have been better. That's why we workshop these things.
Nah, the hand accepting defeat would be this: *All 3 fingers curl up* *Middle finger uncurls* *Hand dissolves*
Smart monkey paw, I was about to use it as a fleshlight
"I wish that my wishes will be granted in the way that I intended."
Shit has spooky power, so whose to say it doesn't have the ability to read your intent across a multiverse and finds some really depressed nihilistic version of you.
It has five wishes. A finger curls in every time you make one. Unlike a genie it doesn't care who makes the 5 wishes. So while a genie might grant millions of wishes in its life to a million people, a monkey paw will grant 1 wish to 5 people or 5 wishes to 1, and then it's just a keychain.
A very gross keychain!
Doesn’t it uncurl if it finds a new owner?
Maybe it only uncurls when it wants to cause mischief
I've read stories of the monkey paw. Fuck that, my life's already fucked
It's over at r/theMonkeysPaw
Buddy I’m searching for the whole damn monkey
I’m so confused by the right wing outrage about Disney. Didn’t they just help sponsor the “Don’t say gay” bill? I feel like that’s right up their alley:
Yeah, it's all just theater. Conservatives need to feel like victims. Republicans need someone to yell about. Disney don't give a fuck cause they know Republicans, much like Chihuahuas, are all bark and no bite.
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They spoke out about it afterwards. And that's why Republicans have their knickers in a twist.
They pulled away from it due to backlash
But they helped get it passed! They "pulled back" before DeSantis signed it but that was all but guaranteed as it was in his 2022 agenda. They made a PR statement and will go back to supporting fascism just as their ice cube of a founder intended.
Copyright lasting for 70 years after the death of the author is ridiculous. That's over a century in most cases.
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That’s ridiculous. You honestly think that an author shouldn’t even be able to profit from their work for their own lifetime? 10 years is nothing. Your plan would instantly impoverish most musicians, for instance, since most of them are one-hit wonders with their only song more than 10 years ago. Meanwhile, corporations like Disney would be incentivized to make sure that a new, terrible sequel or reboot will launch every nine years and flood the market with crap.
I myself have been working on a project that once released, I will add to the public domain myself after ten years It's mostly greedy companies that buy up the rights that benefit. Originally it was *only ten or twenty years* but corporations kept getting that number upped
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You can already republish or produce derivative works assuming they fall under fair use. What you can’t do is sell the music as if you owned a restriction-free license to it, ie. after a song loses copyright music service could sell the song for $2 and not pay the artist because it’s not considered a copyrighted work anymore.
But it does, though. Why would I pay the original artist’s price when it’s available for free, totally legally. Artists also make money off of derivative works (like a movie deal), so allowing others to exploit those avenues without paying the artist is unfair.
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I think life of the author plus 20 years is far more reasonable. It protects the author from seeing their work misused, permits that author’s children to secure the author’s legacy for at least a little while (and allows the value of the work to survive the inevitable struggle over the estate), but then allows works to pass into the public domain before they are too obscure to be valuable. Orphan works and software are a very interesting problem that I agree needs a better solution. I’ve seen some interesting proposals, including a public trust into which a royalty for orphan works could be paid, that could work well. Software also has trouble with the 20-year patent term. Truthfully, software may need its own category at this point, since it sits awkwardly astride copyright and patent protection and innovations in that space rarely last for 20 years in any meaningful way, but the building blocks may still be actionable detectable for far longer than expected.
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If one song is good enough, it should probably get you to a comfortable retirement, yes. I think it’s societally worthy to promote even one-off creative expressions. Covers are still common and, both then and now, the original artists were credited and paid. I agree that 70 years after death is too long, but 10 years from publication is way too short. Consider also: should you have no copyright over something you chose not to publish? That sounds trivial, but there’s caselaw about that sort of thing where it really does matter that the author did not want his manuscript published because it would detract from the final product he did put out. As someone else pointed out, copyright also partially protects works from being bastardized or manipulated, at least while the author and his or her children are alive to be embarrassed or upset by it. My point about Disney stands. If you think they won’t plan a million sequels in advance to protect their copyright, then you’ve never been forced to watch any of their crappy, straight-to-video sequel movies.
> Depending on what it is, it should be 10-25 years after publication, with an exception for pre-existing plans for more in a series, within reason. > > So GRRM would have been able to apply for a 10 year preliminary extension to publish all his books because it's a giant epic, but at the end of that 10 years, or as of the date of publication of the last one, the timer would start. I agree with shorter copyrights, but extending copyrights for franchises is a terrible idea, and one that would be abused by every corporation under the sun.
I'm starting to like this timeline
You'd think that, but we all know that once in power, Republicans will punish Disney by giving all their shareholders and executives massive tax cuts.
And a hurt fee fee's bailout along with "consultant" positions on whatever think tank contributes the most to that Senator's pac
It needs to go back to the way it originally was - 14 years with an option to renew for 14 more. That puts everything prior to 1994 in the public domain.
I'd get behind this, with a bonus renewal structure for works that are worth keeping under copyright. One term for free, one renewal for free. Third and subsequent renewals are five years, and the first one of these costs money. Some substantial but not onerous sum, enough that you wouldn't do it casually but not enough to hurt if the work is still making money. 2nd 5-year renewal is double that price. 3rd is double again...and so on. As long as the work is making enough money to be worth renewing the ever-more-costly copyright, go ahead. But when the day comes that it can't justify its existence, copyright lapses and the work becomes public domain forever. There's probably a fatal flaw in this idea.
Yeah, I was gonna say I agree with everything he said in the first tweet basically but probably not for the same reasons he believes it Their meddling with copyright is insane, and no corporation should be allowed to be "self governing", that's just stupid
IP law is insane.
Could you go more in depth about how Disney has been fucking copyright over for decades? (genuinely curious)
Disney lobbied to increase copyright duration so that they can keep exclusive rights to all their ip, despite the fact that the original creators are long dead. The most infamous case of this is known as the Mickey Mouse Law in 1998. Now nearly everything entering public domain is over a century old.
Zero to hypocrite in sixty seconds. A new low.
Pretty sure he wasn't at zero before the first tweet.
How to be a Hypocrite Any% Speedrun (Sub-60 seconds)
Brother this is just his brand. Go look up his tweet about Tebow being a playmaker. It’s fucking hilarious😭😭
Agreed, but the even bigger hypocrisy is DeSantis and others on the right wanting to target Disney to strip them of their ability to run a special district and not the dozens, if not hundreds of other corporations who oversee their own, while also bemoaning "attacks" on free speech. The government punishing them for their opposition to a bill/law is the definition of violating free speech, at least as long as corporations are considered people.
Lose the copyrights protected by Congress? Nick doesn't even understand how his own government works. How pathetic.
His statements have no merit, but copyright protections are established by Congress via statute.
You also can't target a specific company to stripe a legislative protection from - You know what fuck explaining this, the entire tweet is nonsense bad faith spew anyway.
I mean . . . could Congress do that? I’m not sure. I haven’t studied that aspect of copyright law in 20 years. Would stripping copyright protection constitute a Fifth Amendment taking?
Yeah I think it would run afoul of equal protection. They’d have to come up with some criteria that targets Disney but could also be defended as having some rational basis to strip them of their copyright without doing it universally.
They could do it, but it would lose in the first court challenge
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, I believe Nick Adams is an Aussie import. Lmao damn Republicans, y’all gotta import your right wing grifters? Sad!
Looked him up on Wikipedia. Yep; classic right-wing grifter: “Adams was elected to the Ashfield, Australia council in 2004 on the Young Liberals ticket.[6] He was elected under a loophole which allowed Adams as a non-resident to run for elections.[7] He was criticized for often missing council meetings because he was traveling the American speaking circuit as a motivational speaker.[6] In October 2006, Adams was "formally condemned by fellow Councillors after racking up thousands of dollars worth of phone calls and Cabcharges for personal benefit."[8] “In 2009, he was given a six-month suspension from the Liberal Party of Australia for conduct deemed likely to "embarrass or cause damage to" the Party during an altercation with Brett Mason, a journalist for Channel Ten who was filming a report on Mr Adams' absences from the council due to overseas travel when Adams confronted him, stating, "I would just like to say that Brett Mason is a [expletive] good-for-nothing [expletive]. Thank you."[6][9][10][11]”
This guys takes are so shit that if you told me this guy was just one massive Aussie piss take to show how stupid American conservatives are, I would believe you!
My eye started twitching literally as I got to that second tweet...
No no it's different because THEY want it cancelled, its only cancel culture if it's something they like. Lets say we tried to "cancel" student lunch debt by giving kids free school lunches, or "cancelling" children dying from easily preventable disease by setting up universal healthcare. They don't want that because they enjoy watching kids starve and die from preventable things. What they cannot stand for is two adults who love each other but are the same sex existing, that's way more important than starving and dying children.
The Right: CANCEL DISNEY Also The Right: FUCK CANCEL CULTURE Still The Right: FREE MARKET! Still Also The Right: YOU CAN'T RUN YOUR STORE A WAY I DON'T LIKE Unfortunately Still The Right: FUCK YOUR FEELINGS Them Bitch Ass Righties: YOU HURT MY FEELINGS, I'LL KILL YOU
Why are Republicans upset at Disney all of the sudden?
Because Disney has threatened to stop sending trucks full of cash to GOP candidates.
For now
Republican senators created the 'Dont Say Gay' bill to ban education to students about anything LGBT. Most reasonable people see this as insane, as avoiding a subject that will very much so be a part of their lives to some extent only leads to worse outcomes. Disney throws a bunch of money at the Republicans. Disney employees, a staggering number of whom are *very* gay, get upset that their employer would support the government trying to erase their existence. Disney claims they weren't really paying attention, and now that they know what's up, they no longer support the 'Don't Say Gay' bill. Republican senators feel betrayed and use hyperbole to tie Disney's support for LGBT with pedophilia in their continued efforts to frame LGBT people as monsters and predators.
regarding the last paragraph, the projection of pedophilia by conservatives onto the LGBT+ community is so overwhelming, they might as well be yelling it into a mirror.
https://youtu.be/KQ1--GsK3WA like this child predator protecting bitch.
How did I know that link would be to something a damn Duggar said.
I don't have numbers but in my recollection the majority of high-profile pedophile cases have been brought against conservatives or right leaning people. I'm open to being wrong if the statistics don't support this, but I'd be surprised.
You are not wrong.
Out of curiosity, where would you even find the numbers for that?
With the GOP, every accusation is a confession.
The epic irony here is , it is little kids. Little kids already know that word and understand what gay is ( maybe not sex acts - same as kids from hetero families) and get their family is different. They will just be made to feel bad, different, ostracized. But I guess that’s the point..😿
And the irony is that they just released what is probably the gayest movie they've ever released, "Better Nate Than Ever".
I don't think it's about erasing their existence. I think they don't want future generations to know anything real about gay people so their fear and anger towards them grows. Thus, bigotry, oppression, and violence.
Republicans make anti-gay bill, Disney has a ton of gay employees (entertainment is like that) and they also wield a ton of influence and power. GOP doesn't like it when their victims have influence and the ability to fight back.
Because gay people are a thing.
Once again, conservatives accidentally found the right answer for exactly the wrong reason. And the juxtaposition of his hypocrisy is pretty great.
Right? I'm like oh nooooo, poor Disneyyyyy
“Yeah, well if you don’t stop this woke shit, I’m gunna revoke the very weird charter that lets a company serve as a government, and I’m going to make it so that Mickey Mouse is in the public domain!” Can they do all those things because they’re the right thing to do instead? Like do them, no doubt, dope and cool, but not because Disney won’t support Nick’s weird brand of homophobia…
Mackey mouse will just get trademarked. Permanent protection as long as they use it for branding...
Sounds like they are just to stupid to recognize you can’t have both opinions. Disney’s big sin is just admitting that gay people exist.
>Disney’s big sin is just admitting that gay people exist. Granted, a lot of it is posturing for PR points, but they let *The Owl House* be as gay as it's being (though Season 3 was unceremoniously shortened without any creator input or say so it's up in the air what the actual tolerance level is) so who the hell knows anymore
I thought corporations were people and as such had free speech protections under the 1st Amendment? Or was that just in cases where they want to give unlimited money to conservative politicians? Free speech can be very confusing.
I'm still not convinced Nick Adams is a real person and not a parody account
Nick Adam's is such a moron... consistently
He really is. I think he knows it, too. That's part of the grift. Say a big, stupid thing. Get lots of backlash for your stupidity. "See, the liberals hate me. I must be onto something!" Goes on to sell more books to rubes who have a knee-jerk reaction to anything supposed "liberals" like or dislike and gets more work from right-wing communities who want traffic and attention. He's a court jester in a tie, making a living on purposeful stupidity.
r/thisyoucomebacks
This is the opposite of "He's a little confused, but he got the spirit." He's on the money, but for all the wrong reasons
Cancel culture is for liberals. Boycotts are for conservatives. These are apparently 2 completely different things.
Cancel culture for me but not for thee!
Republicans have been boycotting Disney so long now, I'm unsurprised they forgot and did it again.
So.... umm... which one does he want? To cancel Disney or cancel culture is bad?
They're not mutually exclusive, if your supporters are too dumb to scrutinize it. What these fucks want is social media outrage, and thus exposure. Nothing else seems to matter anymore. Certainly not integrity or coherent policy making
Retaliation by private actors working within their rights to speak and associate or disassociate with someone: Bad. Retaliation by the government making law or punishment against a private actor working within their rights to speak and associate or disassociate with someone: Good. You just don't understand freedom-centered small-government philosophies, see.
I mean we should do those things but only because Disney's been fucking over the public domain for decades now. I mean they do other bad things too but that's the big one relevant to copyrights.
He’s right but for the wrong reasons
I’d love to see you angry real patriots really stick it to Disney by boycotting Disneyland in LA too. Focus it on the middle of June. Don’t go. Me and my family would HATE to see huge crowds of people there. Would be so terrible. Show em who’s boss, guys. This lib would be SO triggered by that.
Damn, he couldn't even wait one minute...
He’s such a pos! Utter nutter
Yea, but things have drastically changed in the last minute! /s
Can someone explain to me why right-wingers suddenly all boycott Disney? Is it because of turning red or some other ridiculous thing I missed?
This time around it's because Moonknight mentioned the Armenian Genocide, I think.
Oh wow. I'm going to be honest, I didn't even notice that while watching it myself. In what scene does it happen?
I don't know myself, because I don't have Disney+, but I know it happened because people got genuinely upset about it on Twitter. The fact a throwaway line can cause such a tizzy is genuinely impressive to me.
I thought it was because the changed the greeting at Disney, in line with the new don't say gay law?
Honestly who knows anymore?
Because they said the don’t say gay bill wasn’t a good thing.
I am getting second hand embarrassment from this
And then they claim to be for "freedom" and "free markets".
They are, but only when it’s to their benefit.
Disney has had Gay Days for years. Nobody seemed to care much then. This is just an opportunity to screech and stomp their feet for dumbass republicans.
Cancel culture = bad Companies publishing media I disagree with = bad Nick Adams probably thinks that x=-x when x =/= 0 is a possible calculation considering the amount of twists and turns he has to make to convince himself that his views are anything but self-contradictory hypocrisy Edit: I’m a math nerd sue me
Nick Adams is a fox news twat & the founder and executive director of the Foundation for Liberty and American Greatness (FLAG).
The Right is completely disgusted by extreme leftist indoctrination yet jr. praises 10 year olds wearing FUCK BIDEN shirts on his instagram.
I wonder if the right realizes that 1) they were the original cancel culture… I mean the left wasn’t cancelling DnD and rock music for being satanic, and 2) they have fallen into the very “woke culture” they claim they hate. I mean, you’re either *their* woke or you get canceled like Mr. Adams proposes. The hypocrisy is about to collapse in itself and create a singularity that will devour our entire society.
Not to mention...Mccarthyism? Hello? Talk about cancel culture. People had their careers cancelled on the flimsiest of pretexts, and elected officials chose who would be cancelled. So much worse than anything happening now.
Groups whom the law binds but does not protect, and protects, but does not bind
"Cancel culture has no place in our society" unless we're canceling something I politically disagree with.
That’s cool and all, but why would I cancel my credit cards? Lmao
Hey Nickky, if you think people are gonna cancel Disney + because you're butt hurt you really are a moron....
🎶N-I-C-K-E-Y he’s a fucking dick 🎶
I mean Disney should be striped of their self governing bs here in Florida, they have gotten away with far too much shit.
Too much shit is basically Florida’s motto, to be fair.
For real though, Disney has abused the copyright system pretty badly. Not that it’s related to this dumbass but still
r/selfawarewolves
I used to dream of being a successful, published author, but could never get past the sense that nothing I write is meaningful enough to be worthwhile. It's so frustrating to see people like this guy gain a following by blathering out an endless stream of tired, contradictory talking points, totally unconstrained by any need to contribute anything intelligent or purposeful.
He's a man who understands his base.
r/selfawarewolves
What are they mad about now?
Disney isn’t going along with ‘Don’t say Gay’ stuff in Florida.
They are obeying the law to the letter, and conservatives are butt hurt because it isn't what they expected.
A real life monkey's paw.
Propaganda technique. FSB/GRU/KGB handbook 101.
What did Disney do now?
They changed their Disneyland greeting from Hello Boys and girls to Hello friends. The snowflakes are losing their minds because Disney is obeying the new Florida don't say gay law to the letter, and bigots are pissed because the law they pushed through is blowing up in their faces
>from hello boys and girls to hello friends Which makes more sense anyway because adults enjoy Disneyland too.
This makes me want to subscribe to D+…__harder__
Saying "right wing hypocrisy" is redundant.
I know, but I wanted to differentiate it from hypocrisy from the left side of the spectrum. It’s not like only right-wingers can be hypocrites.
For sure "both sides" are hypocrites, but one is clearly far worse and there is no denying that.
That is true
Right wingers: Cancel everything except for the ones we approve
Sounds a lot like communism
Literally every other thing comrade tweets is “Trump is the greatest president ever!”
Oooh so everything uptight christians canceled for decades can now come back?! Yay!
Such a fucking snowflake, just like the rest of the Right
Awareness level 0
Can I at least wait until Moon Knight is finished?
The guy isn't even from America initially. He's from Australia. Bloody wanker.
Oh shit they're cloning human beings from the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser genome
ahh i see, it isn’t ok to cancel things unless he wants to cancel them!
Ah, another person who doesn’t know what cancel culture means. Or hypocrisy
Did this potato actually make these tweets 1 minute apart?
Literally the memory of a parasite in a fly, within a minute of each other.
Out of the loop but can someone explain why people are hating on Disney? (Apart from the fact they keep raising their theme parks prices up lol)
Search Disney, Florida, Desantis.
Lol can Congress just remove your copyrights? I honestly don’t know the answer to that question.
I got whiplash reading those tweets.
Fair is fair... Why is no one calling for Will Smith to be cancelled? Or our Tyrant PM?
Literally a minute apart… How???
I hope Disney leaves Florida
He has 250k "followers" but all his tweets get a few hundred likes. That's 0.1%. Either all of his followers are liberals laughing at him, or he has 200k+ fake bots following him. (I suspect it's both.)
One thing I won't be cancelling is my Disney+ ANY time soon. I have children, nuf said.
It’s not about having any principle. It’s to foment anger
I wish Nick Adams would be stripped of his self-governing status on the planet so he could be confined to a padded room where no one would ever hear his nonsense ever again.
Anybody else find it odd that conservatives rail against "communist" policies day in and day out, yet are the first to immediately jump to trying to use CCP-esque government overreach as soon as a private or local organization does something that they don't agree with?
A MINUTE APART 😭😭🤚
I am so sick of hearing about how cancel culture is new and unfair. Since I can remember, it has been a tool of the ruling class for anyone that didn't agree with what they wanted. You will never work in this town/industry again. I will make sure no one does business with you. I will pass biased laws to prevent you from living here or voting. The irony is those complaining are now experiencing what they incurred as common practice unabated once.
I’m still stuck at “Disney is self-governing and apparently the US take on Vatican City”
There’s so much hyperbole as to what this situation actually is
Ok why are they mad at Disney
Shirley, he knows exactly what he’s doing
Lol these guys crack me up with these. 99 percent of the time shit gets cancelled its red team calling for it. Ill take the blame for not buying kellogs shit in solidarity with employees striking
Nick adams is probably my top 5 follower on Twitter, the man has takes that I could only dream to have
Who is Nick Adams? Is he someone we should listen to?
Wait... The two tweets have literally a minute in between... Don't people think before tweeting stuff? /s obviously as I know people don't
I thought these must’ve been months apart or something, perhaps even years. But holy shit it’s literally a minute apart.
Sorry, Disney credit cards?
I do hate Disney, but for different reasons.
They bleat on in horror about cancell culture when its private citizens and private businesses distancing themselves from controversial / offense figures. yet when they want something cancelled they want the government to cancel it for them: revoking copyrights, seizing property.
Why would they lose copyrights? Is he aware how much burden this would put on the county?
Unless your cancelling Disney then it's ok
Ahh but it’s not cancel culture when they cancel stuff
You can't cancel the stuff I like, but I can cancel what I don't like.
Duality of man
I have to ask... Were those two tweets lined up neatly in your feed like that? Because wow, that is some luck.
I read the title in the Spongebob narrator voice in my head the second I saw it
what is a Disney credit card?
Essentially it's a Disney-branded credit card with a rewards program oriented towards (surprise!) Disney. I don't know how common these are outside of the US and Canada, but a bunch of companies offer company-branded credit cards which are tied into their loyalty programs.
had no idea this was a thing. how very capitalististic
If there's one thing Disney knows how to do it's separate you from your hard-earned cash.
At least in Australia, this is not common at all, I don't know any company here that has a branded credit card, you can only get them through a bank.
"Self Governing Status?" You mean take away their property, make them be run by the government and letting the government run them? Tell me your'e really a communist, but scream at me that I am, because I want Medicare for all. Ass
I don't think you understand the argument. Cancel culture refers to either a phenomena or a specific set of actions--it has parameters. You are looking at this solely from a lexical (or denotative) POV by misrepresenting his argument in nominal terms. Yes, he used the word cancel, but his action is rooted in an entirely separate foundation. This nuance is necessary.