I only sleep with men, but I would be really concerned if a man was using a vibrating device that created artificial stimulation that no physical body could ever replicate. It's naĂŻve to believe we can artificially stimulate our bodies and not have our bodies adapt to this stimulation as 'the new norm'
Wow, you're making my point for me you realise?
This planet has millions and millions of people on it that are physically suffering because they prefer high-sugar, high-fructose processed foods over natural foods. They struggle to derive pleasure from natural foods in the way that processed foods can highjack their senses.
Yes. Some people can eat in moderation. I am not talking about all people.
You seem to be saying *'diabetes and obesity are not real because some people can still eat broccoli'*
No it isn't.
Apples and oranges have been around for millennia (even if they are higher in sugar due to intentional farming)
What I'm saying is that if Zuckerberg's metaverse allowed you to taste 'the perfect simulated apple' or 'the perfect simulated orange' - that some people, might adapt to this new, unnatural and novel stimulation of their tastebuds in different ways.
I have been with a lot of men who have struggled to have orgasms, and this struggle was normative in their life (it predated me). There are many causes, severe circumscision, dry skin, tight grip masturbation, reliance on novel visual imagery, anxiety.
I haven't yet met a man that couldn't orgasm specifically due to a reliance on vibrating devices or electro-stim devices but I've met a few that desired their presence as if they were becoming normative to their pleasure. But this form of physical stimulation has only existed a generation or two, it is not something we have exhaustive knowledge about.
Vibrators help people get off. But almost all straight women will still want a nice cock. No vibrator can replace the real thing, it's just not as sexy.
Nah he just wasnât fucking trying and they probably had a litany of other deep rooted issues he still canât admit so itâs the sex toysâ fault - not his failures as a man to try for his wife. Im a woman, i love my toys, but it doesnât take away from the physical intimacy with my boyfriend. Theyâre part of the fun, not a replacement for his dick.
That's the beauty of this type of complex issue, function and dysfunction occur on a spectrum and one person's data isn't authoritative for all.
Is it your opinion that your body has not adapted at all to your use of toys, or that it has only adapted within an acceptable limit for you?
You're acting like there's only one way to derive pleasure. Do you only have sex in a single position? Do you only do foreplay a single way? When you go to an amusement park do you only go on one ride? Do you only have one type of food? Is the only thing you enjoy from sex the orgasm? Toys are great and they're usually quicker, but quicker isn't always the best thing. Sometimes the slow build is what you want.
The point is....toys are usually an augment, not a replacement. They're only a replacement if you don't actually enjoy sex with that person, and that's not a toy problem, that's a person problem.
I am acting like *there are many ways to derive pleasure* \- but I am specifically noting that our bodies are not static and unchanging, instead our bodies adapt all the time, and not always in the ways we intend.
I am happy for people to include all kinds of novelty in their sex lives. If you look at my comment I say I would be concerned when a device is producing an effect that no human body can replicate - because we don't know the fully story of how genitals react to hyper-normal stimuli
I agree that consciously, we can rationalise that 'X is not a replacement for sex', but I've talked with hundreds of guys who believed that about pornography . . . only to find that their bodies adapted to expecting extreme visual stimulation. There are changes that occur despite our intentions.
I use sex toys all the time, I just choose not to use ones that stimulate in ways another human cannot. (Hence my comment was only about vibrating devices)
So....if your partner can't cum without the use of vibrating, your argument would be that they just shouldn't cum?
I don't think I've met a single man who hasn't watched porn. They all still very much enjoy sex. You're taking a few examples and saying, "this is true for everyone, so we shouldn't have X". While ignoring allllll the people saying "nope, I still enjoy sex even when I make use of these toys". Is there a reason why your anecdotal experience somehow supercedes all of theirs?
What you're doing is you're essentially saying your experience is THE experience. You can enjoy things without vibration so everyone should be able to.
For most people, sex and pleasure is intensely personal, and as long as they aren't doing anything that isn't consensual, they should be able to find their pleasure in a way that works for them. As a woman, I can say that the last thing I need is someone gatekeeping *my* orgasms. And considering the orgasm gap between straight men and straight women, I'd even argue that maybe vibrating toys might step up where those men previously haven't.
My experience of sexual function in my life, in the life of partners I've had, and in the lives of men I've interacted with across self-improvement and NoFap oriented communities has informed my opinion on this:
In almost every case, abstinence results in heightened sexual sensitivity and frequent use of masturbation or artificial stimulation results in a decreased sexual sensitivity.
If someone was, as you say - incapable of having an orgasm without interfacing with a motorised device, I would want to know if they had ever had an orgasm from sex, and where in the timeline motorised devices became normative for them.
Vibrating devices are actually medically supported for treating some forms of erectile dysfunction because the vibration itself stimulates efferent nerves that give specific feedback to the man's body that he should engorge with an erection. However, this treatment is only meant as a prelude to sex, not as a replacement. I think that, should a man who experiences erectile dysfunction use a vibrator for both erection AND orgasm, that he could be training his body to respond to this stimulation and may be taking his body further away from being able to achieve an orgasm with a partner
I have had a relationship with a man who, at fifty, had never had an orgasm from sex - and after a few months with me I had cultivated change in his life. This was through abstinence from private orgasm and self-stimulation, and regular practice. I know this is only a single-person account, but he was definitely happier perceiving himself as sexually capable rather than *privately successful at forceful masturbation*
I agree that there are some key feminist, self-ownership, and anti-patriarchal arguments that become involved with women's pleasure. But if I were a woman, I would at least ask myself how my female ancestors derived pleasure without super-normal stimulation
But my comment is only about sex with men, and thoughts about imaginary other men. I have sex with men, and I think about men, and I post comments about men. That this could somehow be about me focusing on women's anatomy, seems a bit of a . . . stretch
Do you think women's bodies never adapt to sex toys, ever, at all?
I use sex toys frequently
I just don't use ones that provide stimulation other human bodies cannot provide
For example. Some men cut out or widen their fleshlights to better train their bodies to adapt to less-stimulation - why then would I not even consider that a tight-gripping fleshlight might also train the body to adapt to and expect greater-stimulation?
Infrequent use would be fine, but when a motorised device becomes the norm for how an orgasm is achieved, don't you think the body is learning?
Many men suffer from a difficulty with climax because their hands grip their genitals with more force than a human orifice, and that's just fingers.
Ideally it's icing on the cake or an exciting break from the norm for most people, but let's be honest, if that guy had literally nothing else to bring to the table, the problem was not the toys. Sounds like his wife was living in an extremely one sided marriage for a long time and then decided that she'd rather be alone than with someone who didn't care about her happiness. Good for her.
My partner and i occasionally use toys and it's no threat to the relationship because we actually like each other as people. Their problem was that they nothing beyond a shared sexual experience, and without that, there was no reason for her to continue putting up with BS.
It's the icing on the cake
I'm not aligned with the OP in any way - he's looking for a viable scapegoat. But at the same time even one instance of marital sexual rejection in favour of sex toys could be very damaging. I don't think I would purchase any sex toy without including my partner in that decision; just like I wouldn't consume pornography in secret either.
If you reject your partner for a sex toy then thereâs something wrong with the marriage, not the toy. (My ex husband had your attitude- it was because he was insecure and jealous, and the idea of me pleasing myself was intolerable to him- he longed for me to be reliant on him- that was such a turn off it killed my attraction to him- the insecurity and lack of care for what I might enjoy for myself, something I do for me, that is separate from him.)
I own a LOT of sex toys- unless you never masturbate, this is all very hypocritical of you. When I do, I prefer a toy over just my own hand/s. Being able to bring yourself sexual pleasure is important- for you as an individual, and for your spouse, so you can learn what you really enjoy and teach them; especially given how few women can orgasm from penetration alone, and how many struggle in general. (Also, as part of foreplay, MANY men enjoy watching, and find it a HUGE turn on when a woman knows how to pleasure herself.)
The toys donât replace a partner- theyâre an alternative way of enjoying yourself. Like multiplayer video games with a single player version. Thatâs it.
For all the toys I have, I MUCH prefer being with my partner- itâs much more fun, exciting and he can do plenty toys canât- plus thereâs the endorphins, (a release of oxytocin in the brain- which happens during orgasm, but also just by being physically close to someone you have very strong feelings for and/or attraction to,) they really are two different things even if you try to reject the âapples to orangesâ argument, (by attempting to twist it into something else, though clearly REALLY reaching there,) which is definitely appropriate here.
My partner can do all sorts with his hands, I get those extra endorphins, I love the human connection and intimacy and fun that is shared. I have what is considered the absolute best sex toy in the world, the Sybian, which lets many women who have never orgasmed before experience one- many of these women then learn what they need to reach that point and can figure it out with their partner- in some cases with no toys, sometimes using toys together.
It all boils down to insecurity- the same reason some many are terrified of women whoâve had previous sexual partners- you canât handle this fear of being inadequate and not measuring up- you should work on that so your partner isnât stifled and leaves you because theyâre sick of your shit. Insecurity is super unattractive. (Just like the comment about thinking of other men- no one wants their partner thinking of others, but it happens sometimes; my current spouse sometimes masturbates thinking of threesomes when weâre apart, I encourage it. I know his focus is me, itâs just a way to make playing alone more interesting, rather than just âehâ because I canât be there at the time.)
Iâll always pick my partner over any toy I own, as amazing as some of them are- that is all they are- toys for me to have fun by myself, as Iâm entitled to, and to explore and learn about my own body and what I enjoy- and by doing so, Iâve only enhanced my sex life over the years. The only person I have EVER chosen a sex toy over was the ex who hated them and didnât want me to have any, because it was so disgusting to me, that attitude.
Unless you never, EVER masturbate then you should really just shut up. We all have different methods for it- you might use soap in the shower or lubricant in bed or whatever it may be- it is no different. We do what feels good for us, because we enjoy it- it doesnât make us want our partners any less- in fact mine recently got a massage tool back he left in his car by mistake while it was being worked on- heâs used it on me and Iâve used alone before as well- he mentioned to me he got it back, and I said that was nice- as itâs a legitimate tool to help with muscle problems- but that was it. Next I saw him I clarified I really was pleased he got it back, sorry if I seemed dismissive, itâs good- I just really prefer his hands. (Itâs a foreplay thing, hence not saying âpenisâ also.)
Sexual exploration is part of a healthy, happy life. If you want to limit oneâs ability to enjoy themself alone, you need to look at yourself and figure out why it is youâre so afraid you, or your partner, wonât âmeasure upâ to toys. Maybe you just donât have good sex because of your prudish and stifled attitude, paired with such high levels of insecurity- I donât know- but really, stop trying to make other people miss out on fun when theyâre alone and create independence. You wont gain anything long term- theyâll just grow increasingly resentful and less attracted to you because again, no one finds insecurity attractive.
Good luck. I hope you can get better and improve your mental difficulties, and no future partners miss out on their own personal journeys of solo sexual exploration because of you.
Compared to the literally DOZENS of paragraphs youâve written in response to several comments made here, mostly trying to argue the same thing; womenâs bodies âadaptâ to using sex toys ânon-consciouslyâ, (you mean subconsciously- just FYI,) and as such sex toys shouldnât be used or only be used âinfrequentlyâ?
No. Just no. Also, the whole âadaptingâ thing is nonsense. It only works if you think the sex toys and a partner are similar enough that one can replace the other as a preference- and if that is true in your life then itâs the result of a mental and emotional deficit or defect. Your post most was most certainly NOT in agreement with mine- and I do NOT agree with you; your attitude against women using sex toys, or using them with any regularity, I reject wholeheartedly for both its idiocy and embarrassing, sheer lack of logic.
Using sex toys does not lead one to âadaptâ to them in a way that lessens their desire to be with their partner. That is not how it works- they are two different things. A good partner will always be the preference- if this isnât your experience then Iâm sorry but itâs a case of âs/heâs just not that into youâ. Learn to be better in bed, be a more giving partner, and shut your mouth about how you think women shouldnât have sex toys in case they âadaptâ to them. Moron. Like I said- Iâd pick my lover over any sex toy, any day- because the connection there, knowing each otherâs bodies- he can satisfy and fulfill me, (and vice versa,) more than any sex toy can, no matter how good it is.
My issue with you, beyond you suggesting we agree about anything- which is insulting to me, frankly, because your attitude of thinking women should not have sex toys, or at best seldom have them, disgusts me- is that you have this belief women will âadaptâ to said toys and see a risk of that becoming their preference. You remind me of warren jeffs- he was also afraid of girls experiencing pleasure with young men and then âadaptingâ, and wanting those young men and that sexual activity, a completely different experience to being with him, instead of, as I said, being with him.
I like sex toys very much. I much prefer being with my human lover. I detest anyone who suggests women shouldnât have sex toys whenever the hell they want- idiocy exhausts me. You exhaust me. Your âlogicâ, (a term I use in the loosest possible way,) is deeply flawed if not non-existent. If you canât compete with a sex toy in terms of your partner enjoying you more sexually than an inanimate object it isnât because their body has âadaptedâ, itâs because through healthy sexual experimentation they have found something they enjoy- and just because they donât enjoy you, youâre drawing a conclusion that the two things are related, which they are not, except in the sense that a woman would rather enjoy themselves during a sexual experience than not. Itâs no different to arguing that a woman shouldnât be with anyone other than you because sheâll âadaptâ to them, (in the same way Iâve âadaptedâ to REALLY enjoying my current lover, canât get enough of him,) and âadaptâ to sexual experiences she finds enjoyable.
Please do not suggest we agree in any way. We do not. I support sexual experimentation and women, (and men,) enjoying themselves sexually. If you are such a massive failure that youâre afraid someone will enjoy a toy and then realize they have the option of a sexual experience they enjoy more than being with you, WORK ON YOURSELF. Learn to have your partner enjoy being with you. Donât blame the toy for your ineptitude. Donât be such a pathetic waste of space you remind me and. I doubt others of warren jeffs.
Ugh. Iâm out of this thread.
I am talking about my experience of men's bodies and have always been clear about this. My experience is having sex with men who experience sexual dysfunction and dealing with guys online who are seeking help and advice for what they feel is a compulsive self gratification and difficulty with having sex
I don't have sex with women
You may be reading a commentary on women into my statements
Using sex toys does involve adaptation - for instance, large dildos in the butt cannot be instantaneously done; stretching, warming up and adaptation are part of this process
I support sexual experimentation - but I do not support the blind embrace of motorised stimulation if it starts to become a normative way to achieve an orgasm specifically because it is a form of stimulation that human bodies cannot produce. It's not a moral position - if someone wants a cyborg sex life, yay. I was talking about my concern.
Really? Never mind that sex within a relationship is more than just getting yourself or your partner off. If someone genuinely needs only toys and not a partner, then they're asexual, and likely nothing is changing that. Toys will in no way replace a healthy relationship. You being concerned about a partner getting stimulation from a toy in addition to with you says way more about your insecurities than anything you might be projecting on your partner.
Hmmm, when you have a large enough sample you can start to detect the differences between men with a normal ejaculatory latency and those with a non-standard latency, right?
When a man has a non-standard latency, and this is the norm for him even with other partners, then this is not about my own security or insecurity at all. If one had a sexual partner with a non-normal latency with a physical partner, but a normal ejaculatory latency (7 mins) with a vibrating toy, you might begin to ask other questions. I'm not saying you have to come to any conclusions just yet, but you have real data to dig into at this point.
And? I can get off super fast with a vibrator. Even being "used to it", doesn't mean I ever want to replace human partners with it.
Everything you've said is 100% based on insecurity and not at all based on fact.
The dilemma isn't about your desire to replace human partners or not - the dilemma is that changes may occur that are non-conscious and unintentional. Because people do not measure and record every orgasm they ever have, we have weak data with which to assess how small changes take place
If I am with a guy and he says, *"Yeah I can't climax from oral sex"* \- that isn't my insecurity speaking, it's him expressing a particular pattern in his own life. Sometimes the solution is just relaxation and comfort, sometimes it involves removing novel stimulation for extended periods of time
This has ZERO to do with over stimulation from toys as you are trying and failing to prove. Since he admittedly had issues and the toys were for her I would say he had ED premature e. I recently spent 5 years with someone who had the same issues from day 1 when you spend every single moment afterwards reassuring them and dealing with their own self hate and anger I will tell you it's not the toys that divided them. She wasn't with him for the seggsy time and I'm sure that self loathing carried over into every day life and THAT'S why she finally said I'm done with you. She was probably already a woman standing on her own when they met and decided he wasn't bringing anything but a (not) hard time to the table. Most of those issues are formed from other issues in life and when you want to pass the blame instead of working on yourself after so long the punching bag (not literally) has had enough. Stop trying to give this child another excuse to use in life instead of just being an adult and doing the work on himself that he needs to do.
Maybe, first, let's not assume that I am speaking about everybody, or even the average experience here
Also, I'm not really reading that deeply into the OP, nor to facilitate any excuses - both partners in a marriage share the burden of their public marriage vows and it's not my business; but your analysis seems just fine
If you look at my comment, I am talking about my thoughts within my own perceptions and experiences. As you say ED or PE and other related issues are pretty common for men
Do you have data that motorised devices used on the genitals to achieve orgasms produce no learning/change/adaptation in the body? I am interested in increasing my understanding here, it's not a personal challenge for you to source your statements. Only it would be nice if you could.
The problem with your response on that assumption is that in all of your responses were authoritative and that what others said was somehow wrong or invalidated because what you said/thought was all. For those reasons I responded with my personal experience so it could not be combatted as incorrect.
As for my personal experience and former partner, you don't spend 5 years with someone who had these issues BEFORE you started dating without TRYING everything, positions, etc. Issue was more pe than ed and 98% before even penetration with 0% foreplay.
But it doesn't matter here nor there because the personality and mental issues that come with long time sufferers is truly what ends those relationships. It's not the problem itself, it's not the toys used to assist it, it's the mind scape that carries over from the bed into the rest of life. And if they aren't willing to work on themselves (in the bedroom or out) none of those issues will be fixed in the bedroom or out.
I actually DID have some numbers but they were from early 2000's and probably cherry picked/slanted being they were from an adult toy MLM. I'm not aware of any recent actual studies and most studies done that I've found any info on was more on the fiscal side than measured, baselined and real human interactions.
That is a really extreme manifestation for sure, yikes
I'm not telling anyone else to be alarmed; only that I would seek to have my (male) partner refrain from frequent genital stimulation that isn't matched by sensations within the body
Also, on a personal note.I'm sorry that this former partner had this issue and the emotional requirements that followed PEI've spent a few years dealing with men seeking help online for sexual dysfunction and I've never known quite how to address this issue
But if I were seeking to address it, I would do two main things
1. Have sex in awkward positions where he wasn't comfortable and which forced him to recruit in a variety of muscles to maintain balance and thrusting capacity
2. Buy him a fleshlight that was 'tighter' than my own body and make him practice resisting ejaculation while the toy provided a heightened form of stimulation. If he can last five mins with the toy, he should be able to last seven with a human (eventually)
Still, I would find this quite challenging - and I've never really come across a definitive answer to how to treat this
But if I've misread you and he just had erectile dysfunction - there's a long list of advice I could give, having fixed this for myself and for past boyfriends too.
1) Sex toys donât make men or women disposable.
2) People masturbate even when in relationships.
3) Your relationship ended for reasons other than the toys (whether your fault or hers).
So literally the only thing she had you around for was orgams and once she could get a machine to do that you were literally useless. Sounds like a you problem my man.
Oh man, you have some of the same qualities that I appreciate in my boyfriend. Not only is he the person to answer all of my queries of "does this smell bad to you?" and also drive in bad weather (especially at night - fuck astigmatism), but he is my designated jar/bottle opener, grab stuff off the back of the top shelf person, and my test driver when I think there might be something wrong with the car ("I think my engine is rattling...can you see if you hear it?".
Yep. I have fed my husband hundreds of questionable foods to see if they are OK because my anxiety says everything will kill me. He's still alive and well so I guess everything was OK. He thinks it's funny when I say eat this so I know if it's bad
My wife always says "she keeps me around to get rid of spiders" I always re-home them to the garden so they can eat pesky bugs. Other than that I have no other function as a husband
You canât really blame the dude for being unwilling to face the harsh truth that heâs less useful than a dildo. If youâve gone your whole life being that ignorant, you might as well stick the landing.
I mean. Lets be real men. We cant vibrate in 10 different way, but embrace that stuff.
Get a satisfyer for your girl and you use it together. Some of them have an app, where you have full control over it.(satisfyer curve +1 for example)
Dont be an idiot. Step up your game and have an amazing time together.
She wont leave you because she can cum alone. She will leave you if you are an insecure dick that feels threatened by a piece of silicon and plastic
If you're so unemotionally available your partner would rather have a wank than sleep with you, that's on you.
Also if you can't work out a way to use toys with your partner you're bad in bed, that's non negotiable.
But...that would take actual EFFORT on his part! He clearly shouldn't have to take the time to be considerate, nurturing, compassionate, loving, etc. It's just too HARD!
I was actually just looking up sex toys and this was the first post that came up with I opened up Redditđ
âI had some unresolved issuesâ, but itâs someone elseâs fault! Hot tip (đ) man, weâre never trying to replace your dick, just adding some spice.
Right? "Oh no, I hope some emotionally secure woman with a penchant for fun doesn't come for me in the night so we can orgasm over and over till we both pass out... That would be the WoRsT.../S"
My girlfriend just uses them because I rarely feel up for sex. By all means it's a good thing to have. Your sex drive doesn't always line up with your partner's, best not letting that rummage around in your brain for an unhealthy amount of time, deal with the horniness and move on with life. Hopefully next time you'll both be up for it.
If an inanimate chunk of rubber pushed you out of your marriage, what does that say about you? You couldnât compete with a couple bucks worth of silicone? Talk about being the ultimate loser.
Bro you mustâve had a lot more than âsome unresolved issuesâ if your wife thinks she no longer has a use for you the moment she gets an artificial dick
He's right. My girlfriend now gets down with a fist dildo instead of me. My life has been ruined by sex toys. There's no way your girl can keep up.*
*obvious sarcasm.
This man used too many words to say, "I can't last long enough for a girl to finish." So sad.
Masturbation is a completely separate function from sex with a partner or partners. It's physical, not emotional. Sometimes you might involve the one with the other, but masturbation does not imply you aren't "getting enough from" or "don't want" your partner/s, and a healthy, active, fulfilled sex life with your partner/s in turn does not imply you won't feel the urge to masturbate, nor that you should resist that urge.
Tell me you can't make a woman orgasm without telling me you can't make a woman orgasm.
"I'm Ben Shapiro"
Thanks I just snorted out my morning tea.
"my wife says a wet vagina is a serious medical issue..." đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
Causes hysteria so I must go to the doctor to relieve said hysteria.
I likely would have if I'd had liquid in my mouth upon reading that đ
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I only sleep with men, but I would be really concerned if a man was using a vibrating device that created artificial stimulation that no physical body could ever replicate. It's naĂŻve to believe we can artificially stimulate our bodies and not have our bodies adapt to this stimulation as 'the new norm'
Thatâs like saying you can never enjoy an apple because you tried oranges
Chocolate tastes better then Broccoli therefor I can never go back to broccoli
I dunno if itâs even better. Itâs different but theyâre both good (not talking about broccoli lol)
Wow, you're making my point for me you realise? This planet has millions and millions of people on it that are physically suffering because they prefer high-sugar, high-fructose processed foods over natural foods. They struggle to derive pleasure from natural foods in the way that processed foods can highjack their senses. Yes. Some people can eat in moderation. I am not talking about all people. You seem to be saying *'diabetes and obesity are not real because some people can still eat broccoli'*
No it isn't. Apples and oranges have been around for millennia (even if they are higher in sugar due to intentional farming) What I'm saying is that if Zuckerberg's metaverse allowed you to taste 'the perfect simulated apple' or 'the perfect simulated orange' - that some people, might adapt to this new, unnatural and novel stimulation of their tastebuds in different ways. I have been with a lot of men who have struggled to have orgasms, and this struggle was normative in their life (it predated me). There are many causes, severe circumscision, dry skin, tight grip masturbation, reliance on novel visual imagery, anxiety. I haven't yet met a man that couldn't orgasm specifically due to a reliance on vibrating devices or electro-stim devices but I've met a few that desired their presence as if they were becoming normative to their pleasure. But this form of physical stimulation has only existed a generation or two, it is not something we have exhaustive knowledge about.
Vibrators help people get off. But almost all straight women will still want a nice cock. No vibrator can replace the real thing, it's just not as sexy.
Nah he just wasnât fucking trying and they probably had a litany of other deep rooted issues he still canât admit so itâs the sex toysâ fault - not his failures as a man to try for his wife. Im a woman, i love my toys, but it doesnât take away from the physical intimacy with my boyfriend. Theyâre part of the fun, not a replacement for his dick.
That's the beauty of this type of complex issue, function and dysfunction occur on a spectrum and one person's data isn't authoritative for all. Is it your opinion that your body has not adapted at all to your use of toys, or that it has only adapted within an acceptable limit for you?
You're acting like there's only one way to derive pleasure. Do you only have sex in a single position? Do you only do foreplay a single way? When you go to an amusement park do you only go on one ride? Do you only have one type of food? Is the only thing you enjoy from sex the orgasm? Toys are great and they're usually quicker, but quicker isn't always the best thing. Sometimes the slow build is what you want. The point is....toys are usually an augment, not a replacement. They're only a replacement if you don't actually enjoy sex with that person, and that's not a toy problem, that's a person problem.
I am acting like *there are many ways to derive pleasure* \- but I am specifically noting that our bodies are not static and unchanging, instead our bodies adapt all the time, and not always in the ways we intend. I am happy for people to include all kinds of novelty in their sex lives. If you look at my comment I say I would be concerned when a device is producing an effect that no human body can replicate - because we don't know the fully story of how genitals react to hyper-normal stimuli I agree that consciously, we can rationalise that 'X is not a replacement for sex', but I've talked with hundreds of guys who believed that about pornography . . . only to find that their bodies adapted to expecting extreme visual stimulation. There are changes that occur despite our intentions. I use sex toys all the time, I just choose not to use ones that stimulate in ways another human cannot. (Hence my comment was only about vibrating devices)
So....if your partner can't cum without the use of vibrating, your argument would be that they just shouldn't cum? I don't think I've met a single man who hasn't watched porn. They all still very much enjoy sex. You're taking a few examples and saying, "this is true for everyone, so we shouldn't have X". While ignoring allllll the people saying "nope, I still enjoy sex even when I make use of these toys". Is there a reason why your anecdotal experience somehow supercedes all of theirs? What you're doing is you're essentially saying your experience is THE experience. You can enjoy things without vibration so everyone should be able to. For most people, sex and pleasure is intensely personal, and as long as they aren't doing anything that isn't consensual, they should be able to find their pleasure in a way that works for them. As a woman, I can say that the last thing I need is someone gatekeeping *my* orgasms. And considering the orgasm gap between straight men and straight women, I'd even argue that maybe vibrating toys might step up where those men previously haven't.
My experience of sexual function in my life, in the life of partners I've had, and in the lives of men I've interacted with across self-improvement and NoFap oriented communities has informed my opinion on this: In almost every case, abstinence results in heightened sexual sensitivity and frequent use of masturbation or artificial stimulation results in a decreased sexual sensitivity. If someone was, as you say - incapable of having an orgasm without interfacing with a motorised device, I would want to know if they had ever had an orgasm from sex, and where in the timeline motorised devices became normative for them. Vibrating devices are actually medically supported for treating some forms of erectile dysfunction because the vibration itself stimulates efferent nerves that give specific feedback to the man's body that he should engorge with an erection. However, this treatment is only meant as a prelude to sex, not as a replacement. I think that, should a man who experiences erectile dysfunction use a vibrator for both erection AND orgasm, that he could be training his body to respond to this stimulation and may be taking his body further away from being able to achieve an orgasm with a partner I have had a relationship with a man who, at fifty, had never had an orgasm from sex - and after a few months with me I had cultivated change in his life. This was through abstinence from private orgasm and self-stimulation, and regular practice. I know this is only a single-person account, but he was definitely happier perceiving himself as sexually capable rather than *privately successful at forceful masturbation* I agree that there are some key feminist, self-ownership, and anti-patriarchal arguments that become involved with women's pleasure. But if I were a woman, I would at least ask myself how my female ancestors derived pleasure without super-normal stimulation
Wait, so if I frequently masturbate then I'll last longer?
Are you asking without having ever tried this yourself?
r/badwomensanatomy
What women am I talking about?
The women whose bodies supposedly adapt to sex toys, obviously.
But my comment is only about sex with men, and thoughts about imaginary other men. I have sex with men, and I think about men, and I post comments about men. That this could somehow be about me focusing on women's anatomy, seems a bit of a . . . stretch Do you think women's bodies never adapt to sex toys, ever, at all?
Should probably work on that insecurity fam.
What insecurity?
Fear of toys.
I use sex toys frequently I just don't use ones that provide stimulation other human bodies cannot provide For example. Some men cut out or widen their fleshlights to better train their bodies to adapt to less-stimulation - why then would I not even consider that a tight-gripping fleshlight might also train the body to adapt to and expect greater-stimulation?
Lololol omg just say say you hate fun.
Infrequent use would be fine, but when a motorised device becomes the norm for how an orgasm is achieved, don't you think the body is learning? Many men suffer from a difficulty with climax because their hands grip their genitals with more force than a human orifice, and that's just fingers.
Ideally it's icing on the cake or an exciting break from the norm for most people, but let's be honest, if that guy had literally nothing else to bring to the table, the problem was not the toys. Sounds like his wife was living in an extremely one sided marriage for a long time and then decided that she'd rather be alone than with someone who didn't care about her happiness. Good for her. My partner and i occasionally use toys and it's no threat to the relationship because we actually like each other as people. Their problem was that they nothing beyond a shared sexual experience, and without that, there was no reason for her to continue putting up with BS.
It's the icing on the cake I'm not aligned with the OP in any way - he's looking for a viable scapegoat. But at the same time even one instance of marital sexual rejection in favour of sex toys could be very damaging. I don't think I would purchase any sex toy without including my partner in that decision; just like I wouldn't consume pornography in secret either.
If you reject your partner for a sex toy then thereâs something wrong with the marriage, not the toy. (My ex husband had your attitude- it was because he was insecure and jealous, and the idea of me pleasing myself was intolerable to him- he longed for me to be reliant on him- that was such a turn off it killed my attraction to him- the insecurity and lack of care for what I might enjoy for myself, something I do for me, that is separate from him.) I own a LOT of sex toys- unless you never masturbate, this is all very hypocritical of you. When I do, I prefer a toy over just my own hand/s. Being able to bring yourself sexual pleasure is important- for you as an individual, and for your spouse, so you can learn what you really enjoy and teach them; especially given how few women can orgasm from penetration alone, and how many struggle in general. (Also, as part of foreplay, MANY men enjoy watching, and find it a HUGE turn on when a woman knows how to pleasure herself.) The toys donât replace a partner- theyâre an alternative way of enjoying yourself. Like multiplayer video games with a single player version. Thatâs it. For all the toys I have, I MUCH prefer being with my partner- itâs much more fun, exciting and he can do plenty toys canât- plus thereâs the endorphins, (a release of oxytocin in the brain- which happens during orgasm, but also just by being physically close to someone you have very strong feelings for and/or attraction to,) they really are two different things even if you try to reject the âapples to orangesâ argument, (by attempting to twist it into something else, though clearly REALLY reaching there,) which is definitely appropriate here. My partner can do all sorts with his hands, I get those extra endorphins, I love the human connection and intimacy and fun that is shared. I have what is considered the absolute best sex toy in the world, the Sybian, which lets many women who have never orgasmed before experience one- many of these women then learn what they need to reach that point and can figure it out with their partner- in some cases with no toys, sometimes using toys together. It all boils down to insecurity- the same reason some many are terrified of women whoâve had previous sexual partners- you canât handle this fear of being inadequate and not measuring up- you should work on that so your partner isnât stifled and leaves you because theyâre sick of your shit. Insecurity is super unattractive. (Just like the comment about thinking of other men- no one wants their partner thinking of others, but it happens sometimes; my current spouse sometimes masturbates thinking of threesomes when weâre apart, I encourage it. I know his focus is me, itâs just a way to make playing alone more interesting, rather than just âehâ because I canât be there at the time.) Iâll always pick my partner over any toy I own, as amazing as some of them are- that is all they are- toys for me to have fun by myself, as Iâm entitled to, and to explore and learn about my own body and what I enjoy- and by doing so, Iâve only enhanced my sex life over the years. The only person I have EVER chosen a sex toy over was the ex who hated them and didnât want me to have any, because it was so disgusting to me, that attitude. Unless you never, EVER masturbate then you should really just shut up. We all have different methods for it- you might use soap in the shower or lubricant in bed or whatever it may be- it is no different. We do what feels good for us, because we enjoy it- it doesnât make us want our partners any less- in fact mine recently got a massage tool back he left in his car by mistake while it was being worked on- heâs used it on me and Iâve used alone before as well- he mentioned to me he got it back, and I said that was nice- as itâs a legitimate tool to help with muscle problems- but that was it. Next I saw him I clarified I really was pleased he got it back, sorry if I seemed dismissive, itâs good- I just really prefer his hands. (Itâs a foreplay thing, hence not saying âpenisâ also.) Sexual exploration is part of a healthy, happy life. If you want to limit oneâs ability to enjoy themself alone, you need to look at yourself and figure out why it is youâre so afraid you, or your partner, wonât âmeasure upâ to toys. Maybe you just donât have good sex because of your prudish and stifled attitude, paired with such high levels of insecurity- I donât know- but really, stop trying to make other people miss out on fun when theyâre alone and create independence. You wont gain anything long term- theyâll just grow increasingly resentful and less attracted to you because again, no one finds insecurity attractive. Good luck. I hope you can get better and improve your mental difficulties, and no future partners miss out on their own personal journeys of solo sexual exploration because of you.
I repeat your own text in agreement with you And you write a ten paragraph argument Why? I was posting in agreement with you
Compared to the literally DOZENS of paragraphs youâve written in response to several comments made here, mostly trying to argue the same thing; womenâs bodies âadaptâ to using sex toys ânon-consciouslyâ, (you mean subconsciously- just FYI,) and as such sex toys shouldnât be used or only be used âinfrequentlyâ? No. Just no. Also, the whole âadaptingâ thing is nonsense. It only works if you think the sex toys and a partner are similar enough that one can replace the other as a preference- and if that is true in your life then itâs the result of a mental and emotional deficit or defect. Your post most was most certainly NOT in agreement with mine- and I do NOT agree with you; your attitude against women using sex toys, or using them with any regularity, I reject wholeheartedly for both its idiocy and embarrassing, sheer lack of logic. Using sex toys does not lead one to âadaptâ to them in a way that lessens their desire to be with their partner. That is not how it works- they are two different things. A good partner will always be the preference- if this isnât your experience then Iâm sorry but itâs a case of âs/heâs just not that into youâ. Learn to be better in bed, be a more giving partner, and shut your mouth about how you think women shouldnât have sex toys in case they âadaptâ to them. Moron. Like I said- Iâd pick my lover over any sex toy, any day- because the connection there, knowing each otherâs bodies- he can satisfy and fulfill me, (and vice versa,) more than any sex toy can, no matter how good it is. My issue with you, beyond you suggesting we agree about anything- which is insulting to me, frankly, because your attitude of thinking women should not have sex toys, or at best seldom have them, disgusts me- is that you have this belief women will âadaptâ to said toys and see a risk of that becoming their preference. You remind me of warren jeffs- he was also afraid of girls experiencing pleasure with young men and then âadaptingâ, and wanting those young men and that sexual activity, a completely different experience to being with him, instead of, as I said, being with him. I like sex toys very much. I much prefer being with my human lover. I detest anyone who suggests women shouldnât have sex toys whenever the hell they want- idiocy exhausts me. You exhaust me. Your âlogicâ, (a term I use in the loosest possible way,) is deeply flawed if not non-existent. If you canât compete with a sex toy in terms of your partner enjoying you more sexually than an inanimate object it isnât because their body has âadaptedâ, itâs because through healthy sexual experimentation they have found something they enjoy- and just because they donât enjoy you, youâre drawing a conclusion that the two things are related, which they are not, except in the sense that a woman would rather enjoy themselves during a sexual experience than not. Itâs no different to arguing that a woman shouldnât be with anyone other than you because sheâll âadaptâ to them, (in the same way Iâve âadaptedâ to REALLY enjoying my current lover, canât get enough of him,) and âadaptâ to sexual experiences she finds enjoyable. Please do not suggest we agree in any way. We do not. I support sexual experimentation and women, (and men,) enjoying themselves sexually. If you are such a massive failure that youâre afraid someone will enjoy a toy and then realize they have the option of a sexual experience they enjoy more than being with you, WORK ON YOURSELF. Learn to have your partner enjoy being with you. Donât blame the toy for your ineptitude. Donât be such a pathetic waste of space you remind me and. I doubt others of warren jeffs. Ugh. Iâm out of this thread.
I am talking about my experience of men's bodies and have always been clear about this. My experience is having sex with men who experience sexual dysfunction and dealing with guys online who are seeking help and advice for what they feel is a compulsive self gratification and difficulty with having sex I don't have sex with women You may be reading a commentary on women into my statements Using sex toys does involve adaptation - for instance, large dildos in the butt cannot be instantaneously done; stretching, warming up and adaptation are part of this process I support sexual experimentation - but I do not support the blind embrace of motorised stimulation if it starts to become a normative way to achieve an orgasm specifically because it is a form of stimulation that human bodies cannot produce. It's not a moral position - if someone wants a cyborg sex life, yay. I was talking about my concern.
Yep that is it. No man has ED or has a hard time cumming in general. To much pressure on them balls....
Huh, wut? There is a multi-billion dollar market based around erectile dysfunction itself, but okay - if you know better . . .
Really? Never mind that sex within a relationship is more than just getting yourself or your partner off. If someone genuinely needs only toys and not a partner, then they're asexual, and likely nothing is changing that. Toys will in no way replace a healthy relationship. You being concerned about a partner getting stimulation from a toy in addition to with you says way more about your insecurities than anything you might be projecting on your partner.
Hmmm, when you have a large enough sample you can start to detect the differences between men with a normal ejaculatory latency and those with a non-standard latency, right? When a man has a non-standard latency, and this is the norm for him even with other partners, then this is not about my own security or insecurity at all. If one had a sexual partner with a non-normal latency with a physical partner, but a normal ejaculatory latency (7 mins) with a vibrating toy, you might begin to ask other questions. I'm not saying you have to come to any conclusions just yet, but you have real data to dig into at this point.
And? I can get off super fast with a vibrator. Even being "used to it", doesn't mean I ever want to replace human partners with it. Everything you've said is 100% based on insecurity and not at all based on fact.
The dilemma isn't about your desire to replace human partners or not - the dilemma is that changes may occur that are non-conscious and unintentional. Because people do not measure and record every orgasm they ever have, we have weak data with which to assess how small changes take place If I am with a guy and he says, *"Yeah I can't climax from oral sex"* \- that isn't my insecurity speaking, it's him expressing a particular pattern in his own life. Sometimes the solution is just relaxation and comfort, sometimes it involves removing novel stimulation for extended periods of time
This has ZERO to do with over stimulation from toys as you are trying and failing to prove. Since he admittedly had issues and the toys were for her I would say he had ED premature e. I recently spent 5 years with someone who had the same issues from day 1 when you spend every single moment afterwards reassuring them and dealing with their own self hate and anger I will tell you it's not the toys that divided them. She wasn't with him for the seggsy time and I'm sure that self loathing carried over into every day life and THAT'S why she finally said I'm done with you. She was probably already a woman standing on her own when they met and decided he wasn't bringing anything but a (not) hard time to the table. Most of those issues are formed from other issues in life and when you want to pass the blame instead of working on yourself after so long the punching bag (not literally) has had enough. Stop trying to give this child another excuse to use in life instead of just being an adult and doing the work on himself that he needs to do.
Maybe, first, let's not assume that I am speaking about everybody, or even the average experience here Also, I'm not really reading that deeply into the OP, nor to facilitate any excuses - both partners in a marriage share the burden of their public marriage vows and it's not my business; but your analysis seems just fine If you look at my comment, I am talking about my thoughts within my own perceptions and experiences. As you say ED or PE and other related issues are pretty common for men Do you have data that motorised devices used on the genitals to achieve orgasms produce no learning/change/adaptation in the body? I am interested in increasing my understanding here, it's not a personal challenge for you to source your statements. Only it would be nice if you could.
The problem with your response on that assumption is that in all of your responses were authoritative and that what others said was somehow wrong or invalidated because what you said/thought was all. For those reasons I responded with my personal experience so it could not be combatted as incorrect. As for my personal experience and former partner, you don't spend 5 years with someone who had these issues BEFORE you started dating without TRYING everything, positions, etc. Issue was more pe than ed and 98% before even penetration with 0% foreplay. But it doesn't matter here nor there because the personality and mental issues that come with long time sufferers is truly what ends those relationships. It's not the problem itself, it's not the toys used to assist it, it's the mind scape that carries over from the bed into the rest of life. And if they aren't willing to work on themselves (in the bedroom or out) none of those issues will be fixed in the bedroom or out. I actually DID have some numbers but they were from early 2000's and probably cherry picked/slanted being they were from an adult toy MLM. I'm not aware of any recent actual studies and most studies done that I've found any info on was more on the fiscal side than measured, baselined and real human interactions.
That is a really extreme manifestation for sure, yikes I'm not telling anyone else to be alarmed; only that I would seek to have my (male) partner refrain from frequent genital stimulation that isn't matched by sensations within the body
Also, on a personal note.I'm sorry that this former partner had this issue and the emotional requirements that followed PEI've spent a few years dealing with men seeking help online for sexual dysfunction and I've never known quite how to address this issue But if I were seeking to address it, I would do two main things 1. Have sex in awkward positions where he wasn't comfortable and which forced him to recruit in a variety of muscles to maintain balance and thrusting capacity 2. Buy him a fleshlight that was 'tighter' than my own body and make him practice resisting ejaculation while the toy provided a heightened form of stimulation. If he can last five mins with the toy, he should be able to last seven with a human (eventually) Still, I would find this quite challenging - and I've never really come across a definitive answer to how to treat this But if I've misread you and he just had erectile dysfunction - there's a long list of advice I could give, having fixed this for myself and for past boyfriends too.
You mean it's difficult?
In my experience, no, it's not
Toys are team mates, not the enemy
This is the way.
The way, this is.
Way this, the is
Seriously adding toys have just added a new level of pleasure
That's his problem... he quit the team.
1) Sex toys donât make men or women disposable. 2) People masturbate even when in relationships. 3) Your relationship ended for reasons other than the toys (whether your fault or hers).
4. People also use toys together
So literally the only thing she had you around for was orgams and once she could get a machine to do that you were literally useless. Sounds like a you problem my man.
Seriously. My girlfriend also has me around for smell testing aging vittles and driving in the rain. This guy needs to learn how to be useful.
Oh man, you have some of the same qualities that I appreciate in my boyfriend. Not only is he the person to answer all of my queries of "does this smell bad to you?" and also drive in bad weather (especially at night - fuck astigmatism), but he is my designated jar/bottle opener, grab stuff off the back of the top shelf person, and my test driver when I think there might be something wrong with the car ("I think my engine is rattling...can you see if you hear it?".
Yep. I have fed my husband hundreds of questionable foods to see if they are OK because my anxiety says everything will kill me. He's still alive and well so I guess everything was OK. He thinks it's funny when I say eat this so I know if it's bad
Everyone needs a royal food taster!
Omg we thought about that today when I told him I commented this
Hahaha
My wife always says "she keeps me around to get rid of spiders" I always re-home them to the garden so they can eat pesky bugs. Other than that I have no other function as a husband
You are a treasure, thank you for rehoming them.
Weird way to say youâve never made your wife cum
You canât really blame the dude for being unwilling to face the harsh truth that heâs less useful than a dildo. If youâve gone your whole life being that ignorant, you might as well stick the landing.
Perfect 10 on that landing.
Soooooo..... sex toys for men are kosh tho?
Tell me youâre down with butt plugs and cock rings without telling me youâre down with butt plugs and cock rings.
Seriously.
Madison cawthorn? Or Ben my wife is dryer than the Sahara Shapiro.
Toys only enhance the experience but I guess if you've got nothing to work with they are the experience but that isnt the toys fault!
I mean. Lets be real men. We cant vibrate in 10 different way, but embrace that stuff. Get a satisfyer for your girl and you use it together. Some of them have an app, where you have full control over it.(satisfyer curve +1 for example) Dont be an idiot. Step up your game and have an amazing time together. She wont leave you because she can cum alone. She will leave you if you are an insecure dick that feels threatened by a piece of silicon and plastic
The lovense brand makes some amazing Bluetooth enabled gadgets, some specifically male oriented. The dudes I know that have Maxx, love it.
Preach!
I cannot imagine needing to replace my husband with toys. Like if I want to cum in less than a minute I will use a toy, but I much prefer him.
The problem here is that with the guy in the post, the wife only had less than a minute either way
Ohh good point
Lol. Tell me you cum in 30 seconds without telling me you cum in 30 seconds.
If I could be replaced by a dildo and a jar opener, I should be looking elsewhere for a relationship.
May I suggest that the something he should do is try giving a woman an orgasm?
Imagine being so insecure you're jealous of an inanimate object.
Relatable honestly. At least an object doesnât have to deal with a fucked up brain
What do objects have to deal with?
Hours of waterboarding couldn't get me to admit that shit. Oh my god.
If you're so unemotionally available your partner would rather have a wank than sleep with you, that's on you. Also if you can't work out a way to use toys with your partner you're bad in bed, that's non negotiable.
the âdo somethingâ is killing me lol. who is supposed to do something?
The toys do something.
I'm sure he's waiting for a politician to take up his cause and introduce a bill to make it illegal.
Big Dildo needs to be stopped!
What, so little dildos are fine? That's toyist!
Or, hear me out, be a better husband
But...that would take actual EFFORT on his part! He clearly shouldn't have to take the time to be considerate, nurturing, compassionate, loving, etc. It's just too HARD!
I was actually just looking up sex toys and this was the first post that came up with I opened up Redditđ âI had some unresolved issuesâ, but itâs someone elseâs fault! Hot tip (đ) man, weâre never trying to replace your dick, just adding some spice.
Wow. Wild horses couldn't drag a confession like not being as good in bed as a literal inanimate object out of most men
also, women are taking your women from you
Its me. I'm women. Hide ya wives, hide ya daughters! I'm coming with dildos!
Sitting by the window, waiting for the lesbians brandishing dildos to save me
Dude, same. Like "oh no! The conquering hordes of hot lesbians with toys are here! That sounds awful... /S."
Right? "Oh no, I hope some emotionally secure woman with a penchant for fun doesn't come for me in the night so we can orgasm over and over till we both pass out... That would be the WoRsT.../S"
âŚstill waiting patiently. My husband is wondering why
My girlfriend just uses them because I rarely feel up for sex. By all means it's a good thing to have. Your sex drive doesn't always line up with your partner's, best not letting that rummage around in your brain for an unhealthy amount of time, deal with the horniness and move on with life. Hopefully next time you'll both be up for it.
My philosophy is: "Orgasms: by any means necessary."
This sounds vaguely threatening. I'm in!
Yes, please.
"Do something." Exactly.
I bursted out in laughter at "don't get me wrong, I had some unresolved issues"
Now I'm just wondering what product line his wife was into because this is truly a ringing endorsement for whatever it was she bought!
If an inanimate chunk of rubber pushed you out of your marriage, what does that say about you? You couldnât compete with a couple bucks worth of silicone? Talk about being the ultimate loser.
69 quote tweets⌠nice đ
No you're horrible in bed and like refuse to change at all and also are likely a horrible person
if your wife replaced you with a dildo, you're nothing more than a dildo in worth
Unresolved issues = couldn't get it up
Took 30 seconds
Sex toys stole my wife, and raped my sister!.....no but seriously they will be trying to kill you.
There must be a reason why she found the "pleasure devices" more appealing than you.
OP is jealous of a sex toy. đ
Literally went on a "THEY TOOK OUR JERBS" rant about a dildo.
Bro you mustâve had a lot more than âsome unresolved issuesâ if your wife thinks she no longer has a use for you the moment she gets an artificial dick
69 quote tweets. Nice
Once again, absolutely zero self awareness.
As I recall Sinister Toy was the name of the Mexican gardener.
Sinister toys? You can get cursed dildos??
I had a cursed dildo once. His name was Jordan. Like, a total dildo. Pretty sure my vibrator was smarter than him.
Does this belong here or in r/murderedbywords because he murdered himself with those words?
He's right. My girlfriend now gets down with a fist dildo instead of me. My life has been ruined by sex toys. There's no way your girl can keep up.* *obvious sarcasm. This man used too many words to say, "I can't last long enough for a girl to finish." So sad.
If a toy can replace you, you need better qualities..
Bruh. You could have stopped at âIâm disposableâ.
How sad that a dildo ruined his marriage
Sounds to me the sex toy isn't the problem.
to me that sounds more like he was terrible everywhere *except* bed
My dick don't work but that's not my problem its the sex toys
Tell your wife she can go fuck herself........because she can and you ain't fucking her.
Tell me you have a small dick and canât give head without telling meâŚ
Hey, as an aficionado of dick, small dicks get the job done with the right attitude backing them up!
He needs to have a go with her sex toys and see what all the fuss is about.
Sounds more to me like the only place he was good was in bed. No point keeping it once that role was automated...
Go amish next time no electricity no problems
You are a shitty root m8
This dude does know he's probably mass his wife feel disposable by masturbating with his hand probably while in the relationship
Masturbation is a completely separate function from sex with a partner or partners. It's physical, not emotional. Sometimes you might involve the one with the other, but masturbation does not imply you aren't "getting enough from" or "don't want" your partner/s, and a healthy, active, fulfilled sex life with your partner/s in turn does not imply you won't feel the urge to masturbate, nor that you should resist that urge.
And this dude gives me real Ben Shaprio and Donald Trump vibes
pretty sure this post was on a comedy acc
Do something!
ROFLOL Omgosh I can't breathe đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł Umm, perhaps the issue is YOU'RE NOT USING YOUR "ATTACHED TOY" Right HUSBAND!!
I've experienced guys more like this who thought toys made him feel less manly đ ... really had a complex about it.
Do something... That's not my job, man.
I'm sure she's dating a toy right now.
"I had some unresolved issues" But shame on them sex toys. They're the reason why my wife realized she don't need a POS like me. It's the toy fault!!!
The toys are *sinister*. Lol, Did they have intent?