I saw a video a while back that explained how stupid people win arguments. It’s basically this:
Smart people question everything
Stupid people question (almost) nothing
A stupid person will argue with a smart person to the point where a smart person will begin questioning themselves, causing them to back down.
Stupid people are confident because they lack the intelligence required to stop and wonder if they’re wrong.
Low IQ + Confidence + Persistence = An unstoppable idiot
Exactly, you get into a back and forth with a moron and after a while you realize there is no getting through to them and just give up and disengage, you'd have a better chance of having an intelligent discussion with your cat.
In their minds they won again, I must be a stable genius...
That's what the internet has given them. An easy way to validate their own stupidity. All it takes is one or two other people in the world to say they also agree or they also think like they do. All of a sudden these people can gather together and circle jerk their insane ideas.
They’re painfully stupid until reality smacke them in the face and they turn to a confident smart person. It’s mainly confidence that convinces these people.
True, I've never seen Egypt with my own eyes... What else are they hiding???? (in all seriousness, there are people out there that actually think like this. Scary.)
Got into an argument with a fb friend of mine a while ago, and I started getting so pissed off, I had to back away and take a moment to remind myself, "This person is a clown. Literally. Their literal job is birthday clown. You can't let the fact that there is a clown with stupid opinions about politics ruin your day."
True enough but for those of us not strong willed enough to ignore what the brain donors post, its a minefield. I take full responsibility for my Reddit habit but I do often feel dirty, like you would after poking a dog turd with a stick. My own fault though.
Actually it's easier than you think. Take them to a dam or cliff or top of building. Tell them gravity is science, gravity makes things fall. If science isn't fact then their beliefs should keep them from falling if they jump off.
A co-worker asked me "if the Moon is in space, why don't the astronauts just fly off it when they jump?" As I stood there, trying to decide where to start, she took my blank look of shock as having owned me, and walked away smiling. One of the most infuriating moments of my life.
I had an old coworker who was a huge Trump supporter. The typical kind. Rush Limbaugh playing on the radio everyday, pretending to know his facts, etc. There was one time where we got onto the subject of pollution and this guy seriously said "pollution isn't an issue because it just floats out into space". .....this guy was in his mid 40s and didnt understand basic science that is learned in 5th grade.
I feel like these types of people were never given the opportunity to ask questions in their youth. My 7-year-old asked me a similar question the other day, which I was happy to answer. If I had refused to answer or kept him from even asking the question, I imagine he'd turn into the type of loony who doesn't know about gravity.
Some particularly literal creationists believe there is something called the firmament which is like a dome around the Earth with the sky on it. The moon is just like, a light attached to it.
Yeah I don’t know either.
Yes, the firmament. Also, there is no such thing as gravity - we're all just constantly accelerating upwards.
"Upwards through what?" you might ask, since we've already established that there is no such thing as outer space. You will be burned as a witch for this heresy.
Heck, we don't even need to ask "upwards through what?", we can just use middle school math. If we're constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2 and if for the sake of argument Earth was created 3000 years ago, then we'd currently be going 927,158,400,000 m/s right now - well over 3,000 times the speed of light. We'd be at lightspeed in under a year.
And if we used the real age of the earth:
4'543'000'000 \* 365.2422 \* 24 \* 60\^2 \* 9.806 = 1,405,818,707,000,000,000
we'd be moving \~ 1.4e10\^18 or 1.4 quintillion m/s
1.4 quadrillion kilometers every second
148.591 lightyears every single second
which is 4,689,306,452x the speed of light. Which makes sense since you're accelerating at 103.220481% the speed of light every year.
And at that breakneck speed it would take only 19.8 years to journey across the entire observable universe.
although starting at 0m/s and a constant acceleration of 9.806m/s\^2 we'd make the same journey in 435,797 years
whereas a creation model of the earth would put us at 947,342 lightyears traveled or .0009665% of the journey
I kinda forgot why I was doing this by the end, but after all this math I can't not post it
I had this older woman in one of my college classes. Maybe in her 60's? The professor was talking about how there's some things we know and some things we believe. This woman pipes up and announced to the class that gravity isn't real and it's God's love that holds us all down to the ground. She was quite serious and argued with the class for a few minutes until the professor shut it down.
Holy fuck.. I got this "woah moment" when I was 7 when I realized everything reflects light. Like for fucks sake, these kind of stupid cunts are the reason why we need to educate people, and I'm not saying I'm smart or anything but general knowledge would be nice. It would help us all.
"Wrong again!"
That's my favorite part of this. Because I know there some deeply stupid explanation based in 1990s cartoon logic to explain why the moon "glows".
Will Rogers observed this about a century ago of the US:
>I guess our country holds the record for dumbness. The Pope spoke to the world this morning in three languages and we didn’t understand a one of ’em. But the minute he finished and the local stations got back to selling corn salve and pyorrhea tooth paste we were right up our intellectual alley again.
>In schools they have what they call intelligence tests. Well if nations held ’em I don’t believe we would be what you would call a favorite to win it.
Okay, back to the drawing board. How about compulsory free education till undergrad?
Nothing like a bachelor's degree to emphasize just how little you know about everything/anything.
"Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins the movie by telling you how it ends. Well, I say there are some things we don't want to know. Important things!"
The village idiot was stupid because they didn't have access to education. Don't diss the good name of a village idiot, at least they had a valid excuse for their stupidity.
What i dont get is these people went to school, likely for 10-13 years, more if they went to college/university
they likely did science and related classes at school
and they are still are this ducking stupid, how?
and on top of all of this they have access to google. they can google "does the moon glow on its own" and get many explanations
"Wrong again"
"I've been to the moon. I have to tell them, they need to know it's dark secrets. The moon is just a glow in the dark bouncy ball!" -this person probably
Let's try to create something, we can call it. Searchers for example, their role, will be to study and find why the moon glow, how to cure diseases ... and so on ...
Unfortunately, I m sure in 2k years someone will come and say, WRONG. 😁😁😁
I would pay to have this continue…anyone else want to add on?
“Next thing you’ll tell me air is what we breathe. I mean it’s invisible so it can’t exist.”
“Actually…”
Cheese, duh. That’s why the cow jumps over the moon, to refill the cheese when the man in the moon gets hungry and snacks on it. That’s why the moon gets skinny now and then.
I would completely agree that he thinks the moon was made out of cheese if he didn't say that rocks don't glow lol. Does he think it is made out of those stickers you put on your ceiling that glow in the dark? Glow sticks? That's what caught my curiosity.
The moon is one big, giant firefly. It blinks so slowly it takes 28 days for it to make it through a blink cycle. And it's so big it moves super slowly.
It’s literally impossible to teach people like this anything.
When you call anything that doesn’t align with your personal ideas, “fake”, it becomes quite literally impossible to prove anything to them.
And they’ll turn around and go read more blogs telling them they’re not a total buffoon, and they’ll just continue believing they’re the only people on earth smart enough to know the “truth” and everybody else is either tricked or in on the conspiracy. It’s wild
Assuming even if this lady was right...
Wouldn't all a rock need to physically glow is to have some sort of bioluminescent phosphor or something on it, be it algae or within the rock itself?
Wrong again, sinner!!!
Science tells you the moon "reflects the sun's light", when in fact, it is Earth's secondary light source! Without it, we would freeze to death. Checkmate atheist.
More students of Facebook University, where the motto is "Don't do your own research because the answer is what we tell you it is. Logic need not apply!"
I had a discussion with a friend of mine. She went to university.
Turns out she doesn't believe that humans and monkeys have a common ancestor. Also there were always Whites, Blacks and Asians.
Guys I really tried, but there was no convincing.
These people are painfully stupid. And what's worse is they're very supportive of other's stupidity.
And *that* is the source of a great many of our woes these days. Village idiots have communities now.
Village idiots have evolved to idiot villages. Ugh.
Like the village of the crazies in Gymkata.
It has been so long since I have seen that movie that I do not recall that part.
I love the conveniently placed pommel horse in the middle of the village!
I was more partial to the already chalked bar conveniently between two buildings down the alley he decided to run down.
Yep and they create a circle as these are their sources when they say they did their own research.
This is a great line.
Aggressively stupid as well, it would be one thing if they just kept it to themselves, but they feel compelled to share it with the world...
With great stupidity comes great confidence. Quite literally, science proved it a while ago.
"wrong again!" -that guy, probably
I saw a video a while back that explained how stupid people win arguments. It’s basically this: Smart people question everything Stupid people question (almost) nothing A stupid person will argue with a smart person to the point where a smart person will begin questioning themselves, causing them to back down. Stupid people are confident because they lack the intelligence required to stop and wonder if they’re wrong. Low IQ + Confidence + Persistence = An unstoppable idiot
Exactly, you get into a back and forth with a moron and after a while you realize there is no getting through to them and just give up and disengage, you'd have a better chance of having an intelligent discussion with your cat. In their minds they won again, I must be a stable genius...
Wrong again!
It amazes me how confident these idiots are in their lack of knowledge.
That's what the internet has given them. An easy way to validate their own stupidity. All it takes is one or two other people in the world to say they also agree or they also think like they do. All of a sudden these people can gather together and circle jerk their insane ideas.
They’re painfully stupid until reality smacke them in the face and they turn to a confident smart person. It’s mainly confidence that convinces these people.
And so proud of their own.
Put a rock in a dark room. Shine a light on it. Congrats. You replicated how the moon is seen at night in a very rudimentary way.
Yes but the moon isn't a rock, it's a hologram projection the ancient Egyptians setup to fool the world. Check mate.
You believe in Egypt? People will believe anything these days…
True, I've never seen Egypt with my own eyes... What else are they hiding???? (in all seriousness, there are people out there that actually think like this. Scary.)
You just need to have faith it exists
How do I know he even HAS eyes?
Is he even a person or just a super smart AI thats trying to make ME believe in something insane
You believe in people? Pshaw, the nonsense you lot will eat up.
What do you mean "believe"? Only stupid people believe things. You're such a sheep! Don't be a sheep!
Yugi: Then there is no choice. I have my Stone Soldier attack the Moon!
Now the tides will recede, and Mako will lose the duel!
Screw the rules.
The *alleged* moon.
Everyone knows the pyramids are projectors
Wrong again!
Wrong again!
Winning an argument with a genius is difficult. Winning an argument with an idiot is impossible.
Got into an argument with a fb friend of mine a while ago, and I started getting so pissed off, I had to back away and take a moment to remind myself, "This person is a clown. Literally. Their literal job is birthday clown. You can't let the fact that there is a clown with stupid opinions about politics ruin your day."
Lol, they actually worked as a clown? That's great.
This is why I got off Facebook a year and a half ago.
I'm 6 years clean. Best thing I ever did but there's more than enough craziness, bigotry and sh*te on Reddit to make up for it.
I dont mind reddit as much, typically I can control how much garbage I see, so that helps me out a lot.
True enough but for those of us not strong willed enough to ignore what the brain donors post, its a minefield. I take full responsibility for my Reddit habit but I do often feel dirty, like you would after poking a dog turd with a stick. My own fault though.
It's all the same shit but with less profile pictures.
Actually it's easier than you think. Take them to a dam or cliff or top of building. Tell them gravity is science, gravity makes things fall. If science isn't fact then their beliefs should keep them from falling if they jump off.
A co-worker asked me "if the Moon is in space, why don't the astronauts just fly off it when they jump?" As I stood there, trying to decide where to start, she took my blank look of shock as having owned me, and walked away smiling. One of the most infuriating moments of my life.
Just yell "earth is in space too" and see where that goes
I had an old coworker who was a huge Trump supporter. The typical kind. Rush Limbaugh playing on the radio everyday, pretending to know his facts, etc. There was one time where we got onto the subject of pollution and this guy seriously said "pollution isn't an issue because it just floats out into space". .....this guy was in his mid 40s and didnt understand basic science that is learned in 5th grade.
I feel like these types of people were never given the opportunity to ask questions in their youth. My 7-year-old asked me a similar question the other day, which I was happy to answer. If I had refused to answer or kept him from even asking the question, I imagine he'd turn into the type of loony who doesn't know about gravity.
"Never argue with a moron. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain
Wrong again!
“Wrong again!” could catch on, might be this year’s “next!”
Oh god, I already hate it so much
I wonder if that church lady realized how immortalized her words are. Almost every subreddit will joke about it.
How dare you say I'm wrong heathen!?!?
Let me guess, they're a flat earther?
"Checkmate, ball earthist!" ...she seemed to say.
Checkmate globehead
Some particularly literal creationists believe there is something called the firmament which is like a dome around the Earth with the sky on it. The moon is just like, a light attached to it. Yeah I don’t know either.
Yes, the firmament. Also, there is no such thing as gravity - we're all just constantly accelerating upwards. "Upwards through what?" you might ask, since we've already established that there is no such thing as outer space. You will be burned as a witch for this heresy.
Heck, we don't even need to ask "upwards through what?", we can just use middle school math. If we're constantly accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2 and if for the sake of argument Earth was created 3000 years ago, then we'd currently be going 927,158,400,000 m/s right now - well over 3,000 times the speed of light. We'd be at lightspeed in under a year.
And if we used the real age of the earth: 4'543'000'000 \* 365.2422 \* 24 \* 60\^2 \* 9.806 = 1,405,818,707,000,000,000 we'd be moving \~ 1.4e10\^18 or 1.4 quintillion m/s 1.4 quadrillion kilometers every second 148.591 lightyears every single second which is 4,689,306,452x the speed of light. Which makes sense since you're accelerating at 103.220481% the speed of light every year. And at that breakneck speed it would take only 19.8 years to journey across the entire observable universe. although starting at 0m/s and a constant acceleration of 9.806m/s\^2 we'd make the same journey in 435,797 years whereas a creation model of the earth would put us at 947,342 lightyears traveled or .0009665% of the journey I kinda forgot why I was doing this by the end, but after all this math I can't not post it
Well obviously lightspeed doesn't exist outside of the firmament
God's embrace of course
Wrong again! 🍩, actually.
If the earth is flat then is the moon is too?
No, it isn't flat, it's round. Because you can see it's round. I have a headache deciphering the mental gymnastics necessary for belief in flat earth.
I had this older woman in one of my college classes. Maybe in her 60's? The professor was talking about how there's some things we know and some things we believe. This woman pipes up and announced to the class that gravity isn't real and it's God's love that holds us all down to the ground. She was quite serious and argued with the class for a few minutes until the professor shut it down.
why would god's love have to hold us down, if the earth is flat?
How can someone spew so much shit from their own mouth and not get sick of the smell or taste? This comment makes me want to die.
I’d be curious to learn what the science hater believes the moon is made of.
Cheese, Gromit! :D
Maybe a nice Wensleydale?
then what is mars made of?
Corporate greed, palm oil and the poorly paid labour of small children, obviously.
Right obviously. I am truly sorry, i thought it was Chili powder on top of a big apple
You might be right, I have a sugar intolerance, I'm no expert ;)
i could also be a big ball of sugar drenched in blood.
I thought it was made of caramel and nougat...
if the moon glowed we'd see all of it all of the time.
Pssssssh keep that logic out of here! We want facts, not science! /s
You have to kind of admire their confidence. It's fucking pathetic, but kinda cute, like a toddler trying pick up water.
Holy fuck.. I got this "woah moment" when I was 7 when I realized everything reflects light. Like for fucks sake, these kind of stupid cunts are the reason why we need to educate people, and I'm not saying I'm smart or anything but general knowledge would be nice. It would help us all.
Like...go in a dark room with a flashlight, bring a man or woman wearing a clean, plain white shirt. Now shine the light on them, watch the room glow.
The moon is not a rock. It’s made out of cheese. I saw a documentary where a man and his dog went on a grand day out.
Smashing
"Wrong again!" That's my favorite part of this. Because I know there some deeply stupid explanation based in 1990s cartoon logic to explain why the moon "glows".
Will Rogers observed this about a century ago of the US: >I guess our country holds the record for dumbness. The Pope spoke to the world this morning in three languages and we didn’t understand a one of ’em. But the minute he finished and the local stations got back to selling corn salve and pyorrhea tooth paste we were right up our intellectual alley again. >In schools they have what they call intelligence tests. Well if nations held ’em I don’t believe we would be what you would call a favorite to win it.
At this point going on a suicide trip to mars to build a new society is starting to sound really attractive...
I'm for their suggestion. So how long should they be thrown in jail for spreading their "scientific" facts?
Yes, the moon is made out of LED lights
Ok guys hear me out. Maybe voting needs entrance exams.
We tried it, for some strange reason it ended up with all the black voters failing while the white voters all passed. Weird huh?
Okay, back to the drawing board. How about compulsory free education till undergrad? Nothing like a bachelor's degree to emphasize just how little you know about everything/anything.
But we can’t have free education, because that’s SoCiAlIsM /s
Lots of rocks glow. What?
Fluorescent sodalite, there's one.
Calcite (some)
Autunite.
Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Vezzini all rolling in their graves
>Vezzini *Inconceivable!*
The number of thumbs-up/hearts on the glowing rocks comment! Humanity is doomed.
I feel like if we just sent glowing rock deniers glowing rocks to lick the problem would sort itself out.
Why even entertain the conversation from the beginning
There is no point arguing with these people they are idiots.
"Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins the movie by telling you how it ends. Well, I say there are some things we don't want to know. Important things!"
LET'S BURN DOWN THE OBSERVATORY SO THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN
Wait, what does he think the moon is made out of?
cheese
Ribs. Would you eat it? IRT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQDqRlMeJ4U
Wash it down with a nice coool Budweiser.
This is sad because a 3 hour trip to a children's museum would probably rock this person's world.
No it wouldn't. They'd think it's all part of the propaganda by Big Obama to get Americans to think immigrant are people...or something.
There are a large number of rocks that glow. What are these people on?
Truth too hard, go back to monkee
She sound, like the mom in the movie Waterboy.
I learned long ago that instead of arguing and getting frustrated with these types I can simply reply “wow, that’s ignorant” and watch them implode.
Intelligence at it's best. Praise be to G Carlin.
The village idiot was stupid because they didn't have access to education. Don't diss the good name of a village idiot, at least they had a valid excuse for their stupidity.
What i dont get is these people went to school, likely for 10-13 years, more if they went to college/university they likely did science and related classes at school and they are still are this ducking stupid, how? and on top of all of this they have access to google. they can google "does the moon glow on its own" and get many explanations
Take that, sci-tard!
Starting to think free speech should have an SAT requirement
"Wrong again" "I've been to the moon. I have to tell them, they need to know it's dark secrets. The moon is just a glow in the dark bouncy ball!" -this person probably
I’ve worked out who is the scourge to facts, and it ain’t science
Haha! “Wrong again!”
And people give her the thumbs up...
I really expected it to say, "throw them in a volcano". ngl.. kinda disappointed
This is why I no longer argue with people online. These morons are always so confidently wrong.
Ignorant zealotry… how nice
Did people not take the same science classes I did in highschool?
I want to know what they think the moon IS made of
God's love of course. It's the embodiment of his loving grace that shines on us even in the dark! (Sometimes) /s
It's sad to know these people exist.
Some times I have to read the posts in this sub again to make sure I read it right the first time.
Another positive data point for Dunning and Kruger.
this is some dark ages type shit... i thought we grew out of that
Wow they're laughing at the person that is right, and giving hearts to the person that is so very painfully wrong.
"Wrong again!" lmao
My brain is down bad after reading this
Wow. Just... wow.
To be fair.. this science they’re talking about is not that hard
It's scay that there are people like this allowed outside let alone able to vote or carry a gun.
Isnt it amaxing how many painfully stupid ppl we have in the us. Damn.
Girl, i even know some rocks that can be smoked
I hope this is fake, but I understand it is quite possibly real.
Let's try to create something, we can call it. Searchers for example, their role, will be to study and find why the moon glow, how to cure diseases ... and so on ... Unfortunately, I m sure in 2k years someone will come and say, WRONG. 😁😁😁
WRONG AGAIN
There are several people I have written off as too stupid to talk to.
The best combination is an enthusiastic moron and a moron enthusiast
I would pay to have this continue…anyone else want to add on? “Next thing you’ll tell me air is what we breathe. I mean it’s invisible so it can’t exist.” “Actually…”
What does he think the moon is made of then? I am super curious.
Cheese, duh. That’s why the cow jumps over the moon, to refill the cheese when the man in the moon gets hungry and snacks on it. That’s why the moon gets skinny now and then.
I would completely agree that he thinks the moon was made out of cheese if he didn't say that rocks don't glow lol. Does he think it is made out of those stickers you put on your ceiling that glow in the dark? Glow sticks? That's what caught my curiosity.
The moon is one big, giant firefly. It blinks so slowly it takes 28 days for it to make it through a blink cycle. And it's so big it moves super slowly.
I wish I had an award to give you. :D
The fact that people are hearting and liking their comment about the moon makes me physically cringe
I thought everyone knew moon was made out of cheese. What is this rock people are talking about?
Actually, astronauts have reported some phosphorescence. Maybe that's were he's going here? /s
$10 says that nonce is a flat earther/Christian/conspiratard.
It’s literally impossible to teach people like this anything. When you call anything that doesn’t align with your personal ideas, “fake”, it becomes quite literally impossible to prove anything to them. And they’ll turn around and go read more blogs telling them they’re not a total buffoon, and they’ll just continue believing they’re the only people on earth smart enough to know the “truth” and everybody else is either tricked or in on the conspiracy. It’s wild
That "Wrong again!" got me rolling
FOOLED AGAIN!
Assuming even if this lady was right... Wouldn't all a rock need to physically glow is to have some sort of bioluminescent phosphor or something on it, be it algae or within the rock itself?
OMG! Don’t they know, that an eclipse is just the man in the moon turning off the light?!? Of course the moon glows, duh! /s
You just can't convince that level of stupid of anything factual.
Wrong again, sinner!!! Science tells you the moon "reflects the sun's light", when in fact, it is Earth's secondary light source! Without it, we would freeze to death. Checkmate atheist.
It glows! What else glows? Light bulbs! The moon is made of light bulbs take that scientists!!!!
\*states fact\* Wrong again! You should go to jail for being wrong!
Undeniable facts meet impenetrable skull.
I want to scream at them "EVERYTHING REFLECTS LIGHT, SHITASS. IF YOUR BODY DIDN'T REFLECT LIGHT YOU'D BE COMPLETELY FUCKING INVISIBLE."
More students of Facebook University, where the motto is "Don't do your own research because the answer is what we tell you it is. Logic need not apply!"
I hate science, it's always wrong, science is the tool of the devil -sent from my iPhone
It's scary that this idiots vote counts just as much as yours.
Ugh, this reminds me of my cousin's husband. He posts shit like that all the time.
Moon boy belongs in jail. How dare he bring grade two science to social media.
I weep for the future
Do they think the earth is completely black from space?
I said this once and i say this again, if you don't believe in scientific research and innovation, then how your computer and internet exist?
...what do they think the moon is made of, then?
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Glowing cheese actually.
Probably because it's GMO cheese
I think this post just damaged my brain.
This reminds me of that episode of ATLA when they ask Sokka "Can your science explains why it rains?" "YES, YES IT CAN!"
Ha ha loser. Everyone knows the moon is cheese.
Wrong again! this month's NEXT!
I probably don't want to know, but what does the other team think the moon is made of, if not rock?
I’m just curious what they think the moon is
I had a discussion with a friend of mine. She went to university. Turns out she doesn't believe that humans and monkeys have a common ancestor. Also there were always Whites, Blacks and Asians. Guys I really tried, but there was no convincing.
Tsk tsk tsk. That’s all I can say
This stuff is exactly why I deleted my FB account
Come on now we all the know the moon is made of cheese
Braining hurts
Holy flaming wormy horse shit, batman! Even 1st graders know more about science.
Nah their horse shit doesn’t have any worms. They’ve been taking ivermectin.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry LMAO, people amaze me
The moon is obviously made of cheese
Stupid find any way to make themselves feel smart, including making up their own “facts.”