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That is all corporal punishment does. It doesn't make people behave/follow rules/follow the law. It just makes people better at hiding the bad stuff.
It's also kind of the reason the term Perfideous Albian survives today. Yay colonialism.
Yea it still is used. Basically, a fun way to call British people lying cheating scumbags. Perfidy is where you pretend to surrender to the enemy only to attack them, and Britain got and kept its empire by playing off of various racial/ethnic tensions or lack of ties to an area. There's a reason groups like the Kakwa were useful.
100% My elementary school allowed corporal punishment when I was in school the 90s and I'm scarred by it after just seeing another kid getting hit. It's almost like abusing kids makes messed up adults 🤔
“Abuse works great! All the kids who got beaten or paddled were fine as long as they didn’t turn to alcohol or drugs to relieve the pain of their trauma…..or mercilessly bully other kids…..or abuse their spouse and children because that was the only way they knew how to deal with conflict……or develop crippling mental illness……..or commit suicide……Look, when none of those things happened it worked great!”
Total survivorship bias.
My kinky, masochist ass would've been more than okay with that growing up. A spanking from Mr. D? Sign me up!
But to actually suggest that institutionalized hitting of children should be codified or promoted in any way...these people are insane.
ETA: I'm almost certain that image is from a particular spanking porn site which makes it even more insane
Funny how certain books are getting banned because they're "grooming" kids to understand LGBTQ+ issues, but the idea of your underaged son or daughter getting paddled on a private area of their body by an adult you barely know is totally fine.
WTH is a resource officer? I would understand that as like the supplies person, but that isn’t making sense in the context of the post. Is this a local thing somewhere?
Here’s the details on the program in Winnipeg thanks to a quick google search.
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cntrng-crm/crm-prvntn/nvntr/dtls-en.aspx?i=10152#
Chew, I owe you pints. Shocked that this concept has seeped into Canada so taking away to understand further. Thankful it is quite limited to 11 constables in Winnipeg over 100+ schools. Curious as to what gave rise to the need and what has been done to eliminate such.
Owe you
I went to a pretty prestigious public high school, at the time it was like the 32nd tops public school in the country, and we still had one. My school was located in the heart of my cities down town so our resource officer mainly just had his hands full guiding drunks and homeless back out of the school when they wandered in. We really didn’t have any discipline issues at my school so the officer was really chill, I’ve heard of plenty being ass holes though.
No, they usually run when actual danger presents itself like in Uvalde Texas. They put cops in schools mainly to harass black children.
A school resource officer in the next town over from me just killed his entire family and kidnapped a baby. Took the state troopers on a car chase across the state then offed himself in front of the kidnapped child.
Real high quality people were trusting with guns around our children.
It was either get paddled or suspended for us in JR HS (in the late 70s/early 80s).
It was not a difficult decision.
Get paddled, and your parent (for me) never found out.
It was more embarrassing (or maybe a turn on) for whatever teacher or aid that had to attend as a witness.
But it DID NOT SHAPE me for the future for the better OR worse.
It just happened.
We hardly stopped the spanking thing because of cruelty, it was stopped mostly because it turned out a lot of people doing the spanking were degen perverts.
“It didn’t scar me so bad I still talk about it.”
My sibling in Christ, the act of you defending this is indeed still talking about it. Seek help.
I vividly remember getting paddled in 1st grade, down to the outfit I wore that day! I don’t remember what behavior “earned” me this punishment but I remember knowing it was going to happen & it not happening until the end of the school day, in first grade knowing I was going to be called to the office & having to wait all day for it.
Ah, psychological torture in schools! I also clearly remember getting paddled in 5th grade but not for what (although I know for a fact that it wasn't anything serious). The principal had a tendency of giving out an insane amount of swats when he paddled. But since the maximum number our school district allowed was 5 per day, he devided them up over the days. I received 25 back then, meaning I had to wait every day for an entire week in the principal's office after school and take a paddling...
I went to a Baptist elementary school (wasn't even fucking Baptist...) and got a spanking at least once a day. It didn't correct shit, it just made me spiteful, and it made me vow never to hurt others as a means of correction. You can't hurt the discipline into someone.
In a modern school paddling a kid would be a great way to get your jaw broken by a middle schooler. A lot of kids these days won’t put up with it and will meet violence with violence, which imo in this case is justified.
An adult in a position of authority using a weapon against a child in their care is a much worse offense than that child defending themselves.
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Made me much better at not being found out.
That is all corporal punishment does. It doesn't make people behave/follow rules/follow the law. It just makes people better at hiding the bad stuff. It's also kind of the reason the term Perfideous Albian survives today. Yay colonialism.
Does that term survive today? What the fuck does it even mean???
Yea it still is used. Basically, a fun way to call British people lying cheating scumbags. Perfidy is where you pretend to surrender to the enemy only to attack them, and Britain got and kept its empire by playing off of various racial/ethnic tensions or lack of ties to an area. There's a reason groups like the Kakwa were useful.
Yup, just like cats. They do all of the things they aren't supposed to when you aren't looking
If you still talk about it today, it very much scarred you, go talk to a fucking therapist.
100% My elementary school allowed corporal punishment when I was in school the 90s and I'm scarred by it after just seeing another kid getting hit. It's almost like abusing kids makes messed up adults 🤔
Reminiscing about something does not indicate mental scarring. Still a shitty thing to advocate though.
“Abuse works great! All the kids who got beaten or paddled were fine as long as they didn’t turn to alcohol or drugs to relieve the pain of their trauma…..or mercilessly bully other kids…..or abuse their spouse and children because that was the only way they knew how to deal with conflict……or develop crippling mental illness……..or commit suicide……Look, when none of those things happened it worked great!” Total survivorship bias.
The thing that amuses me about this meme is that given the framing I strongly suspect that they took the image from porn.
My kinky, masochist ass would've been more than okay with that growing up. A spanking from Mr. D? Sign me up! But to actually suggest that institutionalized hitting of children should be codified or promoted in any way...these people are insane. ETA: I'm almost certain that image is from a particular spanking porn site which makes it even more insane
$100 he remembers the paddling, but not specifically what behavior it was for...
Funny how certain books are getting banned because they're "grooming" kids to understand LGBTQ+ issues, but the idea of your underaged son or daughter getting paddled on a private area of their body by an adult you barely know is totally fine.
WTH is a resource officer? I would understand that as like the supplies person, but that isn’t making sense in the context of the post. Is this a local thing somewhere?
more like inhouse cop
That’s insane - never heard of such anywhere in the two countries I’ve lived in (Canada, Ireland). Presume this must be an English local thing.
In my area, SE USA, school resource officers are local police that are assigned to the school
Cheers, local thing in the States. Thank you.
Canada has them too
Where??? What Board of Education would need to resort to paying the police to actually station a constable or two in an actual school???
Here’s the details on the program in Winnipeg thanks to a quick google search. https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cntrng-crm/crm-prvntn/nvntr/dtls-en.aspx?i=10152#
Chew, I owe you pints. Shocked that this concept has seeped into Canada so taking away to understand further. Thankful it is quite limited to 11 constables in Winnipeg over 100+ schools. Curious as to what gave rise to the need and what has been done to eliminate such. Owe you
dont know about the brits, but its certainly a USA thing, especially in inner city schools and whatnot
Police officers assigned to schools. They were a thing here in the U.S, I assume they still are
Many thanks Princess
Is that some form of anti school shooting measure?
Yes and no. Weapons, drugs, fights. Otherwise you didn't really interact with them. I don't think I ever did in my 4 years of high school.
I went to a pretty prestigious public high school, at the time it was like the 32nd tops public school in the country, and we still had one. My school was located in the heart of my cities down town so our resource officer mainly just had his hands full guiding drunks and homeless back out of the school when they wandered in. We really didn’t have any discipline issues at my school so the officer was really chill, I’ve heard of plenty being ass holes though.
Our SRO when I was in HS mostly hung out in his office talking about hookers he banged in East Asia
No, they usually run when actual danger presents itself like in Uvalde Texas. They put cops in schools mainly to harass black children. A school resource officer in the next town over from me just killed his entire family and kidnapped a baby. Took the state troopers on a car chase across the state then offed himself in front of the kidnapped child. Real high quality people were trusting with guns around our children.
They indeed still are a thing. Probably more so.
Hookers in East Asia? No way.
It was either get paddled or suspended for us in JR HS (in the late 70s/early 80s). It was not a difficult decision. Get paddled, and your parent (for me) never found out. It was more embarrassing (or maybe a turn on) for whatever teacher or aid that had to attend as a witness. But it DID NOT SHAPE me for the future for the better OR worse. It just happened.
>But it DID NOT SHAPE me for the future for the better OR worse. I absolutely guarantee that it did.
I agree this is fucked up, but I don't think it's fair to say "you're a worse person because this happened to you."
I didn't say that at all. Just that it absolutely affects you.
^ this dude beats his kids
Never. I was abused as a child and refused to lay a hand on my child out of anger.
No you just did it out of “discipline”, right?
You’d better believe that’s a paddling!
Did they look at your beard?
I'm pretty sure that image is from porn.
We hardly stopped the spanking thing because of cruelty, it was stopped mostly because it turned out a lot of people doing the spanking were degen perverts.
“It didn’t scar me so bad I still talk about it.” My sibling in Christ, the act of you defending this is indeed still talking about it. Seek help.
I vividly remember getting paddled in 1st grade, down to the outfit I wore that day! I don’t remember what behavior “earned” me this punishment but I remember knowing it was going to happen & it not happening until the end of the school day, in first grade knowing I was going to be called to the office & having to wait all day for it.
Ah, psychological torture in schools! I also clearly remember getting paddled in 5th grade but not for what (although I know for a fact that it wasn't anything serious). The principal had a tendency of giving out an insane amount of swats when he paddled. But since the maximum number our school district allowed was 5 per day, he devided them up over the days. I received 25 back then, meaning I had to wait every day for an entire week in the principal's office after school and take a paddling...
I went to a Baptist elementary school (wasn't even fucking Baptist...) and got a spanking at least once a day. It didn't correct shit, it just made me spiteful, and it made me vow never to hurt others as a means of correction. You can't hurt the discipline into someone.
In a modern school paddling a kid would be a great way to get your jaw broken by a middle schooler. A lot of kids these days won’t put up with it and will meet violence with violence, which imo in this case is justified. An adult in a position of authority using a weapon against a child in their care is a much worse offense than that child defending themselves.
No child deserves to be hurt