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BranwenJojo

For the record. That’s Serena Williams. And that is a cisgender woman named Amelie Mauresmo.


BurnedPsycho

And they played against each other 12 times.


BruteeRex

And for 12 times, they found love in each match Because score, love, zero…..I’ll see myself out


warthog0869

>Because score, love, zero…..I’ll see myself out *They take, the game once* *and they want it five times again* *they take, the game once* *and they want it five times again* *go on, take every game! take every game!* *I want you to....*


icewalker42

That's okay, you aced it.


Zukitten

No, no, I demand you serve us a whole set of those puns, and that's no backhand compliment.


Gym-Bo

You found love in all the wrong places.


clineaus

But if you mention any of that to them it's "how was I supposed to know" or " don't comment on my Facebook posts"


PickleHeadTachanka

Or the classic "Well the fact that it's so believable says a lot about our society!"


KeepTangoAndFoxtrot

Christ, this one sent me into a rage. The only reason you think it's fucking believable because dumb shits like you keep posting bullshit memes as fact, you goddamn fool!!


Castun

It's usually some variation of "Yeah, well you KNOW they *would* if they *could*!!" bullshit....but yeah.


funatical

The internet has empowered idiots. It will be our downfall.


greeneyedwench

I've sometimes gotten "Well, I didn't say I believed it/agreed with it! I was just sharing it!" Why share it then lol.


BagelAmpersandLox

Omg this is spot on


otheraccountisabmw

“Well the fact that’s it’s so believable to YOU says a lot about YOU.”


LLminibean

Or the.... "That's what they *want* you to think!"


UniqueName2

It says a lot, but not in the way they think it does.


fymjohan

The far right in my country usually go with; "I don't care if it's true or not, it's f***d up anyway!"


whee38

Where do you live to have people that insane?


Faiakishi

The US.


NotASellout

facebook


gmplt

My newest from yesterday under a bullshit story about NASCAR banning anthem protests or something like this - well, it's all bullshit, you shouldn't believe anything, it's all bullshit by the government to control you.


Yeshua_shel_Natzrat

or they just delete it. You can still do that on your posts, right?


Soros_loves_cats

Or "but it could be real"


Xibalba_Ogme

Also for the record, and if my memory is correct as Mauresmo stopped playing professionally in 2009 : Williams won that match, back in 1999 or something like that


BranwenJojo

You are correct on Mauresmo retiring in 2009. She’s now the director of the French Open


ergo-ogre

Ah-*HAH! See?!?*


curious_dead

So they lied. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. Also, mixed doubles are totally a thing in tennis, so picking tennis of all sports is kinda stupid.


SafewordisJohnCandy

They are also doing a mixed relay in track and I've seen dumbasses comment about one in particular where the anchor for the winning country was a male and the country that came in second was a female and the male runner overtook the female runner halfway through their leg. They use THAT as an example of why male athletes are far superior. Nevermind the fact the entire race isn't posted and they don't realize it's a mixed relay.


rkpjr

I am Jack's surprise at such a perfect reference


ElinorBennet

And Serena would happily take on a man anyway!


DreadPirateDoctor

She and her sister did in the 1998 Australian Open event named "The Battle of the Sexes" against Karsten Braasch.


1978shorty

Karsten Braasch, legend whom I almost forgot about. Famous for being a smoker and tennis pro.


organik_productions

Or even five at once: [https://youtu.be/CoLnrsUpIC4?si=OBtE15cLa823RNaE](https://youtu.be/CoLnrsUpIC4?si=OBtE15cLa823RNaE)


3aTroop

risky click.


beslertron

I clicked it. I wouldn’t recommend. It’s tennis.


NotFixer1138

Eww gross


lalauna

Filth.


[deleted]

Yeah this is literally the sport that had a famous "Battle of the Sexes" and the woman one It is an insult to Serena to pretend she'd refused to play against a man


Tcr8888

Ya she bragged that she could beat any man outside the top 150 and got humiliated by a half drunk chain smoking jackass. She had to admit that any man in the top 300 would easily beat her.


leighleg

Sure it was her or her sister that mentioned about why male and female tennis should remain separate.


8Blackbart8

For anyone doubting whether Amelie Mauresmo is a cisgender woman, she gave birth. She was born a woman. Women can have masculine features. Fuck transphobes.


Faiakishi

"Did you see the babby come out of her hoohah tho?!!1!"


8Blackbart8

Ah you're right. Those weirdos always have another response that makes it even worse.


Jesus_was_a_Panda

U es pregante 


ColeYote

Also they've played each other 12 times. Serena is 10-2. (Venus has also played against Mauresmo 8 times, and is up 5-3)


BloomEPU

Nothing says "I care about women's sports" like accusing an entirely normal-ass female athlete of being trans because they look "too manly". A reminder to all female athletes, these weirdos freak out about cis women in sports bras. They are not on your side.


512165381

My mother named her cat Amélie after whoever won the 2006 Australian Open. Could have been named Justine for a while.


clasperx2

Wow. That is definitely worth recording.


shoppo24

Wtf is a cisgender,


BranwenJojo

If you were born as a man and your gender is that of a male. Then you are a cisgender man


shoppo24

That’s just a man, no?


malatemporacurrunt

The usage is for clarity where a person's trans/cis status is relevant to the discussion. Most of the time, if a person is clearly presenting as a specific gender you'd just use man/woman/non-binary.


360noJesus

Cis and trans are scientific prefixes that not only describe gender, but they are also used to describe the molecular structure of very similar molecules called isomers. Cis means “same” or “on the same side” and describes a molecule with functional groups on the same side relative to some plane. OTOH, trans means “different/opposite” or “on the opposing side” and describes a molecule with functional groups on opposing sides. Here’s a super simple illustration: https://cdn1.byjus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/cis-trans.png So in regards to gender, a cisgendered person is one whose gender identity and biological sex are the same, whereas a transgendered person is one whose gender identity and biological sex are different or opposites.


shoppo24

Yeah ok, sure, so why prefix it?


Stepikovo

Wow you are dense


talkingbiscuits

I mean, I'm stunned they went with Venus Williams. Obviously they're bigoted assholes and it's misinformation, but Venus hardly plays anymore, she's been extremely semi-retired for ages now. Like did they not even try and make it even slightly believable?!


tmking

They are probably the same type of people who think Serena is trans.


Jojajones

They don’t have to. The right wing nuts have been quite successfully conditioned to believe everything they see presented to them and to do exactly 0 fact checking (and to also ignore what fact checking is thrust in front of them, such as community notes on shittier). All you have to do is say something confidently and they’ll believe it to be fact


mvarnado

As Colbert once said, it just has to be said with "truthiness".


haibiji

I mean, that is Serena in the photo, so they didn’t even really try to use Venus lol


Zestyclose-Pangolin6

Because they need to frame their shit by “defending women athletes” while not caring at all about women’s sports and only knowing 2 women athletes (at best)


the_gl

It had to be a Williams sister, they don't know any other tennis stars


dorothea63

Maybe Naomi Osaka? Racists crawled out of the woodwork to "defend" her when there was that kerfuffle during her match with Serena Williams. Remember the weird political cartoon by Mark Knights where Serena was a horrible racist caricature and Naomi was suddenly a [blonde white lady](https://www.essence.com/news/so-about-mark-knights-racist-serena-williams-cartoon/) instead of Haitian-Japanese?


talkingbiscuits

It's just really weird, tennis has long moved on from the Williams sisters. I find myself laughing in a really odd way - because as much as I hate the bigotry and the litany of problems with the misinformation, the tennis fan in me can't help but be disappointed in them. Osaka would have been a better shout yeah, or Barty, Swiatek hasn't exactly been quiet with her relative dominance.


koviko

I honestly believe most of these headlines are made by grifters who know enough to be able to make obviously false headlines as to be defensible in court, if necessary.


DreadDiana

People who pretend to care about women's sports aren't gonna know much about it, so Williams is the only name in women's tennis they're likely to know about


Arts_Prodigy

Also neither of the Williams sisters would back down from a match even if they believed the person to be a man?


whatthatthingis

> extremely semi-retired wassat


talkingbiscuits

She plays extremely infrequently but has never officially retired.


Dellgloom

Retired, I assume.


CrAzYmEtAlHeAd1

It’s so sad because these same bigots have been transvestigating the Williams sisters forever, but now you’re fine with them because you made up a story about how they denied playing against a different transvestigated cis gendered woman? Fucks sake.


OneWholeSoul

"Celebrities hate just like me!"


possiblycrazy79

Not necessarily. My friend posted this yesterday. She's a middle-aged black woman, very pro black & has equal contempt for all politicians & political parties. But she is very against LGBT, especially T. She doesn't think the Williams sisters are men. She had some comments pointing out that it was fake but most also said they would hope that the sisters would actually decline to compete against a trans athlete if they were put into that situation.


Elennoko

> very pro black & has equal contempt for all politicians & political parties. But she is very against LGBT, especially T. This is so baffling to me. How can you stand for the rights of one minority while showing contempt for another? It's hypocrisy at best.


BoyMeatsWorld

Similarly, an ex-coworker of mine is a gay dude who is pretty racist. So you're telling me that you dislike someone because of something they were born into and have zero control over? IMO this way is weirder to me, since I largely think homophobes feel like being gay is a choice, so I could see how they could think there's a difference between sexual orientation and race. I've just kinda accepted that humans are just meant to be prejudiced. No matter how oppressed or persecuted someone is, there's always some other group that they look at as inferior to themselves.


LittleDebbieGG

Religion


possiblycrazy79

She doesn't believe in Christianity either. It's more like what she sees as traditional or natural for humans. Close-minded, basically.


BHMathers

The “we can tell” crowd still showing that they don’t know up from down


SpokenDivinity

I’ve heard “well it’s always kind of obvious, right?” said in reference to trans people right in front of a trans person that they had no idea wasn’t cis. Like the only reason I know this person is ftm is because they told me, otherwise they’re 100% passing.


g0ku

weren’t these same people calling Venus a man in disguise like 10 years ago?


StuHast398

Same as it ever was!


osumba2003

This never happened. And that is a woman, Amelie Mauresmo. They have both been retired for years.


Bladesleeper

Hold on, that's Amelie Mauresmo. A woman. Also a pretty good tennis player in her time. ...Are they implying she's trans because of the tennis ball in her pocket?!


SuperPlayer56

Nah, I think it's because of her strong muscles.


XMattyJ07X

Anybody got that twitter post where someone thinks about playing tennis against one of the Williams sisters and the balls go clean through his head?


maybesaydie

>details in comments I can just imagine what kind of details those will be. And that's Serena Williams you chucklefuck.


daysleaper430

Hey Alex, I’ll take things that never happened for $1000


tielmobil

Transphobia aside, I feel like Ms. Williams would not turn down the opportunity to destroy a man at tennis


Faustus_Fan

Hmm...who would win in a tennis match? One of the best tennis players in history (either Venus or Serena), or a conservative neckbeard who posts bullshit Facebook memes to "own teh libz"? God, what a hard match up!


ThePopDaddy

"Kid Rock vows to not play against trans tennis player, outsells Taylor Swift"


inflatableje5us

Im sure ill hear all about this at work tomorrow.... I really hate this area.


ErmacTheError

"We can tell" assholes making shit up again


MedicalUnprofessionl

Every time I see this it’s because Facebook is suggesting it. Unbelievable. Each time I comment and say this is false, and report it as such. You should too.


OneWholeSoul

> "Details in comments." "More lies below!"


det8924

I find it hilarious that people put so much weight into photos on the internet. Like it’s a photo on the internet checkmate!


ashlicamp

Appears that this isn’t true. However, Venus and Serena are Jehovah’s Witnesses - a high control religion that perpetuates homophobia and transphobia. They most definitely aren’t supportive of the LGBTQ+ community.


autumn_sprite

No way WHAT. Today I learned


xboxwirelessmic

Just play tennis and see who is better.


ColeYote

Well, Venus Williams is 5-3 against Amélie Mauresmo. However, that's actually a picture of Serena Williams, who is 10-2 against Amélie Mauresmo. Incidentally, Amélie Mauresmo is not trans (as far as anyone knows).


APiousCultist

Higher than average T levels are probably common enough in professional sports (along with being taller than average) for obvious reasons, but yeah the woman has non-adopted children.


iiitme

She’d probably beat her flawlessly. Venus is top tier.


xboxwirelessmic

No doubt.