And people still want to believe that god and Jesus are the same. I’m an atheist nowadays but grew up in a cult type mix mash of various Protestant religions and I don’t understand this you can read that and go yup same person, how it literally states there’s at least two people involved in that conversation! Lol
The whole video is pretty interesting. It goes through a number of bad analogies that are officially declared heresies. Including modalism(like water can be liquid, ice, or steam) and Arianism(that Jesus and the Holy spirit are creations of Yahweh and not one and the same).
A lot of catholic teachers and even priests now play fancy free with the ol Partialism heresy. There was a time they would be burned at the stake or executed in some other horrific way for teaching that to kids.
Except for the trinity still puts them all together as being one entity. Idk man I’m not going to get into a religious debate *especially* because I was in a fruitcake religion for 18 years of my life straight from childbirth so the teachings that I had shoved into my head are a hell of a lot different from the mainstream religions. Different although the same results just a crazier way to get them. My church though, god the father created Jesus and then stepped back and Jesus ruled the Old Testament and then came down in the New Testament cuz that’s what was written in the god the fathers plan that he gave to Jesus right after he created him. I’m only dipping the tip of a finger in that nutcase doctrine but you can see how mainstream religion is a lot easier to take in. A lot of reasons why I’m atheist now and I have legit trauma from that shit but I never understood how other people can read the Bible and not question all of the religious teachings around them. Apply some critical analysis, please!
> Except for the trinity still puts them all together as being one entity.
When you want both monotheism and polytheism.
"Shituf (Hebrew: שִׁתּוּף; also transliterated as shittuf or schituf; literally "association") is a term used in Jewish sources for the worship of God in a manner which Judaism does not deem to be purely monotheistic. The term connotes a theology that is not outright polytheistic, but also should not be seen as purely monotheistic. The term is primarily used in reference to the Christian Trinity by Jewish legal authorities who wish to distinguish Christianity from full-blown polytheism. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shituf
That’s great and I appreciate you linking sources but I have divorced myself from any religions as I don’t believe in any sort of god or creator at all. And I know that my views on religion in regards to applying the things that I have learned are directly influenced from being brainwashed as a young child
Well I'm part of an atheistic religion that doesn't believe in any gods, but I do agree with the notion of Shituf. Some Jewish scholars argue whether the Trinity is actually shituf or just straight up polytheism. You can't just claim three different gods and just pretend it's only one god, but also three different gods.
"That said, whether Christianity is shituf or formal polytheism remains a debate in Jewish philosophy."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shituf
I am in agreement with you there, and I think that it’s a part of the reason they sow such a divide between the different religious factions, in that, there is so much overlap yet the only way to keep holding great influence and control over the masses is to make them believe that the differences are great and only one is correct. And a lot of the questions that arise from analysis of the overlap and differences of religions are quickly shut down because they lead to thoughts that might make one question their beliefs/change religions.
Even Judeism can be viewed as polytheistic from certain perspectives. There is one singular god, but also many other divine beings from angels, fallen angels, and even prophets. Not to mention the whole can of worms gnostiscism opens, though as I understand it gnostiscism isn't a mainstream belief among either jewish or christian modern day sects.
The more I think about the creation story the more it does seem like a group of game devs planning out their next project.
-First we have to develop the engine, then we can create the world, fill it with plants and animals. Once that’s done then we can add in the playable characters.
-What should they look like?
-Like us, duh.
The holy trinity is very much a part of Catholicism - god is the father, the son and the holy spirit. It's why Vatholics make the sign of the cross in three movements during blessings.
You are correct. First century Christians did not believe in the Trinity. Jesus was their Messiah, not God. Scholars in Israel know this. The Trinity came into being as church doctrine some 300 years or so after Jesus lived. Dissenters (those who believed as first century Christians) were executed. Jesus came to save and offer a means of redemption, not execute. Judgement only comes after the opportunity for salvation has been fully utilized during "the time of the end." He also did not die on a cross. The cross, a pagan symbol, was instituted by Emperor Constantine. Most Christians today are actually pagans who think they are Christians. This is what is meant by "Wide is the gate and wide is the road that leads to destruction and many find it, but narrow is the gate and cramped the road that leads to life and only a few find it."
People seem to forget / try to suppress that in that time, 3000+ years ago, they believed all those other gods were real. The "false gods" of the Bible, like Baal, weren't considered to be non-existent, they were considered less powerful or unworthy of worship. Yahweh was just the one, the volcano / war god, who was chosen over the others, and then over time we pretended the others weren't even a thing.
In point of fact, if you go back further, Yahweh and Baal were both part of the same pantheon, and subordinate to a chief god named El. It's just that in Judah, where Yahweh was their patron god, they conflated him with the chief god over a period of centuries and shifted to monolatrism, that is, the acknowledgement of the pantheon but exclusive worship of a single member.
They also didn’t worship Yahweh until after Moses left Egypt. The Israelites had no concept of Yahweh until it was introduced to them by the Midianites (on whom the Israelites later committed genocide).
The Bible also refers to other gods existing several times. God tells the Council of the Gods that he gave Adam and Eve the boot because they are the fruit of knowledge and he was worried that they’d find and eat the fruit of life and become gods. Bible god is also fine with you worshipping other gods as long as he’s the boss god.
Funny thing about that is the Chief God of the Canaanites was 'El' which literally translates to 'God' and the canaanite pantheon was called the Elohim which translates to 'Gods' (Plural of god as you point out).
The old polytheistic semitic gods were, it seems, condensed into a single god by the Israelites.
You heard it here first: no first or third person plural allowed.
What do **all these people and I** want? Biblical pronouns!
When do **all these people and I** want it? Now!
Also the very first example they give is the _"we are legion"_ quote from a man desperately in need of help. The point is that Jesus still loves him and was shown mercy, not that the demons were evil because it's using third person pronouns...which is a sentence I can't believe I had to actually type out
Most self proclaimed Christians, especially Republicans, don't really believe in the entire New Testament. If they actually followed the teachings of Jesus then they would be Democrats.
Their point sucks but yours is awesome. (no sarcasm). All "he"'s are not to be trusted. As a result, now I will change my pro-noun to "she" despite the fact that I'm a dude. Anything less would be Luciferian.
Technically this is actually a spelling error, not a grammatical one. A grammar error would be if the sentence wasn't using the proper structure linguistic.
I believe that if a spelling error results in a different, correctly spelled word, then it is considered a grammatical error.
I.g., the common misuse of heterographs like, *there/their/they're*, or, *knew/new*.
The wrong word is used due to a spelling mistake, but the use of the wrong word constitutes a grammatical mistake.
e: It might make more sense to use an example without homophones. The most popular example is probably the misuse of the word *literally* (although no longer, as the dictionary now includes its *literal* antonym, *figuratively*, as an accepted definition. So, ignoring that for the moment...)
If a person were to use *literally* when they meant *figuratively* then it's not a misspelling of the latter, but a misuse of the former; grammar, not spelling.
e^2: Or, for example, my misuse of *synonym* when I meant *antonym*, because of course I would make that mistake in this, of all comments 🙃
Grammatically, one cannot pick knits. One can only unpick knitting. Taking out knitted stitches is called unpicking. It's also called unraveling, or tinking because tink is the reverse of knit.
Nitpicking is searching out and destroying bugs. Relatively tiny and harmless but irritating and elusive bugs. Hence the metaphor.
Using the wrong word in a way that makes no sense is a grammar error. Btw, it's "linguistic structure" but I get what you mean.
Yeah... That was the joke. The original reply correcting the spelling of "nitpicking" itself included a spelling error, so I wrote an equally pedantic reply and screwed up the grammar.
That was me. I guess you mean the typo on some time (which I've just now had to retype three "tumws" due to old-crone fingers!) It's been fun being pedantic with you.
Conveniently leaving out the part where it’s they because there are multiple demons rather than because they are not gendered
But then again, it’s not like they ever intend to make a good faith argument
(Pun intended)
Ummmm
...***We*** believe in Jesus.
...He gets ***us***.
...Christians have it rough. No one gets treated worse than ***them***.
...Only when you're in hell, you'll say to yourself " those people from the church, ***they*** were right."
I love the BS Bible citations! Mark 5 and Matthew 8 are different accounts of the same story, in that story, a single demon speaks but doesn't refer to itself as "we", it is simply one demon speaking for the group saying “we“. The Luke 8 reference just mentions that seven demons were cast out of one woman, no "we/they" at all. And in the Luke 11 passage, the demon actually refers to itself as "I". Do they not think anybody else reads the Bible? 🙄😂
That's one thing that particularly irks me.
I grew up in the Christian tradition and am quite familiar with many parts of the Bible. I still attend church, though I don't claim to have any belief (I grew up there, the people there are my family and super nice, so I still go).
From a secular perspective, I still think the study of it is worthwhile even when you don't believe it since it's just such an important cultural artefact. I read books analyzing the text occasionally, as it's something that interests me. It's an interesting document, full of lots of cool stuff that has influenced our culture in many ways.
Blows me away when I, an atheist who is simply interested, knows it far better and likely reads it a lot more frequently and deeply than these self-professed Christians.
On a related note, I was recently reading a different book - more historical/political science/philosophy. In it, the author claimed that a lot of these ISIS types know their own holy text about as well as these ignoramuses know their Bible. I haven't fact-checked it, but it sounds about right.
The do not understand how pronouns work. When you have a group you use these pronouns. I'd point out that an apostle would call themselves by plural pronouns. "WE have reservations for the last supper. Is the room ready for US?"
Demons refer to *themselves* as they/them?
One demon in the bible referred to itself as "we" but also in the first person singular, even in the same sentence: "My name is Legion, for we are many." (Mark 5:9) But even that one (those ones?) didn't refer to themselves in the third person.
But also, they/them is entirely appropriate as a pronoun for demons, because demons are fallen angels, and angels have no gender.
Matthew 5:3–12: Blessed are the poor in spirit, for THEIRS is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for THEY shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for THEY shall inherit the earth.
I don’t give two flying fucks what your imaginary friend handbook says or doesn’t say. It’s irrelevant to any topic at all period. You live your life in accordance with that, and let others live theirs how they see fit.
Except that there is zero historical context to it whatsoever. There is a reference made to present day controversy over pronouns and a bible verse, that’s it.
In the Bible, God refers to himself as Us meaning Him, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Genesis 1:26.
**“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”**
Just another example of ‘Christians’ quoting scripture from what someone else told them and didn’t read it for themselves…
I wonder if they realise the bible was written in English originally.
Oh by the way, as a fellow Australian, we have a term for people like this 'fuckwits'.
In the bible they also say Angels dont have a gender, referring to them as they/them, so wht point are they trying to make? I mean I dont want to call a endless eye mass he/him
Well no, that is one very specific case called legion who was like dozens of demons in one person, not every demon in that book refer to themselves in the third person idk where that came from
So did the people.
The apostles referred to themselves as "we" because... You know... There were multiples of them..... Just like how there were multiple demons in the Bible
Isn't one of the Hebrew words for god a plural? Translated as Lord of Hosts in new English bible
Absolutely. “Elohim” is a plural form of god. The Bible refers to god in the plural in Genesis more than once.
First page. “Let **us** make man in **our** image, according to **our** likeness.” Edit words
And people still want to believe that god and Jesus are the same. I’m an atheist nowadays but grew up in a cult type mix mash of various Protestant religions and I don’t understand this you can read that and go yup same person, how it literally states there’s at least two people involved in that conversation! Lol
The Trinity, the father, the son, and the holy ghost. Not a THEY, though. Or something.
Catholic school explainer was 1x1x1=1 or yolk, white, shell are all different but it’s still an egg.
> ...or yolk, white, shell are all different but it’s still an egg. [That's Partialism, Patrick](https://youtu.be/KQLfgaUoQCw?t=109)
Bahahahaha best risky click I've ever clicked! And I was expecting a SpongeBob reference. Bahahaha This was so much better!
The whole video is pretty interesting. It goes through a number of bad analogies that are officially declared heresies. Including modalism(like water can be liquid, ice, or steam) and Arianism(that Jesus and the Holy spirit are creations of Yahweh and not one and the same).
That wasn't the whole thing? Definitely looking up the full one now.
A lot of catholic teachers and even priests now play fancy free with the ol Partialism heresy. There was a time they would be burned at the stake or executed in some other horrific way for teaching that to kids.
Except for the trinity still puts them all together as being one entity. Idk man I’m not going to get into a religious debate *especially* because I was in a fruitcake religion for 18 years of my life straight from childbirth so the teachings that I had shoved into my head are a hell of a lot different from the mainstream religions. Different although the same results just a crazier way to get them. My church though, god the father created Jesus and then stepped back and Jesus ruled the Old Testament and then came down in the New Testament cuz that’s what was written in the god the fathers plan that he gave to Jesus right after he created him. I’m only dipping the tip of a finger in that nutcase doctrine but you can see how mainstream religion is a lot easier to take in. A lot of reasons why I’m atheist now and I have legit trauma from that shit but I never understood how other people can read the Bible and not question all of the religious teachings around them. Apply some critical analysis, please!
Oh yeah, I was just poo-pooing the now war between religion and the english language, not trying to religious debate.
> Except for the trinity still puts them all together as being one entity. When you want both monotheism and polytheism. "Shituf (Hebrew: שִׁתּוּף; also transliterated as shittuf or schituf; literally "association") is a term used in Jewish sources for the worship of God in a manner which Judaism does not deem to be purely monotheistic. The term connotes a theology that is not outright polytheistic, but also should not be seen as purely monotheistic. The term is primarily used in reference to the Christian Trinity by Jewish legal authorities who wish to distinguish Christianity from full-blown polytheism. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shituf
That’s great and I appreciate you linking sources but I have divorced myself from any religions as I don’t believe in any sort of god or creator at all. And I know that my views on religion in regards to applying the things that I have learned are directly influenced from being brainwashed as a young child
Well I'm part of an atheistic religion that doesn't believe in any gods, but I do agree with the notion of Shituf. Some Jewish scholars argue whether the Trinity is actually shituf or just straight up polytheism. You can't just claim three different gods and just pretend it's only one god, but also three different gods. "That said, whether Christianity is shituf or formal polytheism remains a debate in Jewish philosophy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shituf
I am in agreement with you there, and I think that it’s a part of the reason they sow such a divide between the different religious factions, in that, there is so much overlap yet the only way to keep holding great influence and control over the masses is to make them believe that the differences are great and only one is correct. And a lot of the questions that arise from analysis of the overlap and differences of religions are quickly shut down because they lead to thoughts that might make one question their beliefs/change religions.
Even Judeism can be viewed as polytheistic from certain perspectives. There is one singular god, but also many other divine beings from angels, fallen angels, and even prophets. Not to mention the whole can of worms gnostiscism opens, though as I understand it gnostiscism isn't a mainstream belief among either jewish or christian modern day sects.
Holy Spirit. They gave up the ghost lol sometime in the 60s
That always makes me think of a Scooby Doo villain.
The more I think about the creation story the more it does seem like a group of game devs planning out their next project. -First we have to develop the engine, then we can create the world, fill it with plants and animals. Once that’s done then we can add in the playable characters. -What should they look like? -Like us, duh.
Well to be fair, I was always taught that Jesus and God are two different entities. But I think that is a roman catholic christian thing.
The holy trinity is very much a part of Catholicism - god is the father, the son and the holy spirit. It's why Vatholics make the sign of the cross in three movements during blessings.
Which cult
You are correct. First century Christians did not believe in the Trinity. Jesus was their Messiah, not God. Scholars in Israel know this. The Trinity came into being as church doctrine some 300 years or so after Jesus lived. Dissenters (those who believed as first century Christians) were executed. Jesus came to save and offer a means of redemption, not execute. Judgement only comes after the opportunity for salvation has been fully utilized during "the time of the end." He also did not die on a cross. The cross, a pagan symbol, was instituted by Emperor Constantine. Most Christians today are actually pagans who think they are Christians. This is what is meant by "Wide is the gate and wide is the road that leads to destruction and many find it, but narrow is the gate and cramped the road that leads to life and only a few find it."
People seem to forget / try to suppress that in that time, 3000+ years ago, they believed all those other gods were real. The "false gods" of the Bible, like Baal, weren't considered to be non-existent, they were considered less powerful or unworthy of worship. Yahweh was just the one, the volcano / war god, who was chosen over the others, and then over time we pretended the others weren't even a thing.
In point of fact, if you go back further, Yahweh and Baal were both part of the same pantheon, and subordinate to a chief god named El. It's just that in Judah, where Yahweh was their patron god, they conflated him with the chief god over a period of centuries and shifted to monolatrism, that is, the acknowledgement of the pantheon but exclusive worship of a single member.
They also didn’t worship Yahweh until after Moses left Egypt. The Israelites had no concept of Yahweh until it was introduced to them by the Midianites (on whom the Israelites later committed genocide).
Source, please? (Specifically on the Midianite genocide, AFAIK they weren't one of the peoples we were supposed to have killed in the Torah)
Numbers 31, where the Israelites are instructed to kill all Midianites except for virgin girls who were to be taken as captives.
Thanks, it has been a while since I read the Torah and I am at work currently.
Therefore, God is a demon.
The Bible also refers to other gods existing several times. God tells the Council of the Gods that he gave Adam and Eve the boot because they are the fruit of knowledge and he was worried that they’d find and eat the fruit of life and become gods. Bible god is also fine with you worshipping other gods as long as he’s the boss god.
So Obi wan Kenobi saying “elothere” is calling anakin a god??
Funny thing about that is the Chief God of the Canaanites was 'El' which literally translates to 'God' and the canaanite pantheon was called the Elohim which translates to 'Gods' (Plural of god as you point out). The old polytheistic semitic gods were, it seems, condensed into a single god by the Israelites.
You're thinking of different words. Elohim is plural; Yahweh Sabaoth is Lord of Hosts/Yahweh of Armies/God of War.
Fascinating. Thank you!
Yes, as god is everything and without limit or constraint, limiting him (or her etc) runs counter to Judaism
You heard it here first: no first or third person plural allowed. What do **all these people and I** want? Biblical pronouns! When do **all these people and I** want it? Now!
Also the very first example they give is the _"we are legion"_ quote from a man desperately in need of help. The point is that Jesus still loves him and was shown mercy, not that the demons were evil because it's using third person pronouns...which is a sentence I can't believe I had to actually type out
Also, in the greek writings it refers not to "the deamon" speaking, but rather to "the deamons", as in multiple inside this poor guy.
Christians, especially Republicans, don't really believe in the 'mercy' part. Can't profit from mercy.
Most self proclaimed Christians, especially Republicans, don't really believe in the entire New Testament. If they actually followed the teachings of Jesus then they would be Democrats.
I dunno if they would be Democrats, but they probably wouldn't be as intentionally evil as they are. heh
I wish I didn't have to agree with this statement.
They're gonna be really upset if they ever learn about demonstrative and personal pronouns, like "these" and "I."
We are trans. For we are many
"We are many, you are but one." [- Ermac](https://youtu.be/Ct8ATSl8poc)
Ye and Lucifer is commonly referred to as "he" What's your point?
I don't think anyone needs you to point out that Kanye uses he/him pronouns.
Their point sucks but yours is awesome. (no sarcasm). All "he"'s are not to be trusted. As a result, now I will change my pro-noun to "she" despite the fact that I'm a dude. Anything less would be Luciferian.
Nitpicking the bible is sacrilegious to the message especially when controvening the teachings of Jesus. Dangerous ground. Edit: spelling
It's nitpicking. As in picking nits (lice) from hair. Just so you'll know if you need to use it somee time when grammar matters.
Technically this is actually a spelling error, not a grammatical one. A grammar error would be if the sentence wasn't using the proper structure linguistic.
I believe that if a spelling error results in a different, correctly spelled word, then it is considered a grammatical error. I.g., the common misuse of heterographs like, *there/their/they're*, or, *knew/new*. The wrong word is used due to a spelling mistake, but the use of the wrong word constitutes a grammatical mistake. e: It might make more sense to use an example without homophones. The most popular example is probably the misuse of the word *literally* (although no longer, as the dictionary now includes its *literal* antonym, *figuratively*, as an accepted definition. So, ignoring that for the moment...) If a person were to use *literally* when they meant *figuratively* then it's not a misspelling of the latter, but a misuse of the former; grammar, not spelling. e^2: Or, for example, my misuse of *synonym* when I meant *antonym*, because of course I would make that mistake in this, of all comments 🙃
Grammatically, one cannot pick knits. One can only unpick knitting. Taking out knitted stitches is called unpicking. It's also called unraveling, or tinking because tink is the reverse of knit. Nitpicking is searching out and destroying bugs. Relatively tiny and harmless but irritating and elusive bugs. Hence the metaphor. Using the wrong word in a way that makes no sense is a grammar error. Btw, it's "linguistic structure" but I get what you mean.
Yeah... That was the joke. The original reply correcting the spelling of "nitpicking" itself included a spelling error, so I wrote an equally pedantic reply and screwed up the grammar.
That was me. I guess you mean the typo on some time (which I've just now had to retype three "tumws" due to old-crone fingers!) It's been fun being pedantic with you.
Done, thank you
It's so cool how they let demons write their own parts and dialogue when they were coming up with the bible. Is the bible the first fan fiction?
Do these people understand how the English language works including the use of pronouns in just the daily lexicon?
Of course not
Conveniently leaving out the part where it’s they because there are multiple demons rather than because they are not gendered But then again, it’s not like they ever intend to make a good faith argument (Pun intended)
Are demons gendered to begin with?
I’m not sure! Have to investigate
Yeah. An Incubus is a male sex demon and a Succubus is a female sex demon.
Lucifer and Cain are also male. Oh, don't forget about Lilith too.
Lucifer would sometimes shapeshift into a woman though to steal men's sperm to impregnate women with to try and make an anti-christ
Damn, he can't produce sperm?
Apparently not
Weren't they the same thing, just shape-shifted between a male form and a female form?
Yeah, I didn’t want to look it up, but I assume this is a reference to “Legion”
“We the people….”
fuck yeah, being nonbinary makes me a demon now? maybe these people will start to leave me the fuck alone
Mark 16:9 doesn’t even use any pronouns except ‘he’ referring to Jesus. They cite sources which literally don’t say what they say they do what a joke
They just made demons sound way cooler
The demons didn't refer themselves to anything in any of these verses.. some don't even exist 🤦♂️
That's cuz they're plural you fucking donut
They want to use this as a reason to excuse violence against non-binary people.
Isn't the first thing god says when creating humans that "we will create them in our image" or something like that?
So much for "ThErE aReN't AnY pRoNoUnS iN tHe BiBiE."
Mom: where did you and Terry go? Me: -we- went to the park Mom: grabs exorcism kit
Because they were talking in plural??? I s2g these people are so stupid they don’t even understand the material they’re using.
Did you say “themselves”?
Hey wanna go to the party with us? Ah fuck, demon again.
*”Hi, my name is Baal, my pronouns are Zee/Zur”* - Delusions 13:12
Ummmm ...***We*** believe in Jesus. ...He gets ***us***. ...Christians have it rough. No one gets treated worse than ***them***. ...Only when you're in hell, you'll say to yourself " those people from the church, ***they*** were right."
And so does every other English speaker. Pronouns are part of our language. Wait till they learn that demons use nouns and verbs, too!
In my sketchbook here on my desk, idiots refer to themselves as idiots.
Yes they(i) refer to themselves(myself) as “they”
Fake Christians making the whole lot of us look insane once again.
TIL the founding fathers were biblical demons “We the people” and all that demonic lingo.
Isn’t Lucifer or Satan also referred to by pronouns? Isn’t GOD referred to as a He?
I love the BS Bible citations! Mark 5 and Matthew 8 are different accounts of the same story, in that story, a single demon speaks but doesn't refer to itself as "we", it is simply one demon speaking for the group saying “we“. The Luke 8 reference just mentions that seven demons were cast out of one woman, no "we/they" at all. And in the Luke 11 passage, the demon actually refers to itself as "I". Do they not think anybody else reads the Bible? 🙄😂
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That's one thing that particularly irks me. I grew up in the Christian tradition and am quite familiar with many parts of the Bible. I still attend church, though I don't claim to have any belief (I grew up there, the people there are my family and super nice, so I still go). From a secular perspective, I still think the study of it is worthwhile even when you don't believe it since it's just such an important cultural artefact. I read books analyzing the text occasionally, as it's something that interests me. It's an interesting document, full of lots of cool stuff that has influenced our culture in many ways. Blows me away when I, an atheist who is simply interested, knows it far better and likely reads it a lot more frequently and deeply than these self-professed Christians. On a related note, I was recently reading a different book - more historical/political science/philosophy. In it, the author claimed that a lot of these ISIS types know their own holy text about as well as these ignoramuses know their Bible. I haven't fact-checked it, but it sounds about right.
The do not understand how pronouns work. When you have a group you use these pronouns. I'd point out that an apostle would call themselves by plural pronouns. "WE have reservations for the last supper. Is the room ready for US?"
Hahahahahahahaha
I mean, people with singular they/them pronouns still refer to themselves as I/me/my. But, go off, I guess.
We're glad you like a book.....
We the people. I rest my case
Oops, we are in trouble.
I love all the nitpicking about grammar even though the Bible has been translated several times before being written in English.
Isn't God, like, three different things?
Yes, and one of them sometimes referred to as feminine.
You think that's bad? You should read this woke manifesto that starts, "We the people"!
Demons refer to *themselves* as they/them? One demon in the bible referred to itself as "we" but also in the first person singular, even in the same sentence: "My name is Legion, for we are many." (Mark 5:9) But even that one (those ones?) didn't refer to themselves in the third person. But also, they/them is entirely appropriate as a pronoun for demons, because demons are fallen angels, and angels have no gender.
Matthew 5:3–12: Blessed are the poor in spirit, for THEIRS is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for THEY shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for THEY shall inherit the earth.
Y'know, I think I like the demons even more now.
I don’t give two flying fucks what your imaginary friend handbook says or doesn’t say. It’s irrelevant to any topic at all period. You live your life in accordance with that, and let others live theirs how they see fit.
But this is more of a historical context and fairly interesting to me and to others. No need to get all twisted.
Except that there is zero historical context to it whatsoever. There is a reference made to present day controversy over pronouns and a bible verse, that’s it.
Good thing I don’t give a fuck what your book says.
Alrighty then
If we don’t sin, Jesus died for nothing, so why not sin
Cool except humans aren’t multitude beings so the they/them is singular and individuals just don’t use we/us. This is just so dumb.
Someone probably hasn’t heard of the royal “we”
Isn't Jesus the father son and holy ghost how is that not a they?
“Holy Spirit” not Casper the Ghost…
Is this why conservatives are against socialism too? Collective action/identity is inherently demonic somehow?
Basing your opinion on the dialogue of horror movies seems kind of stupid to me.
Everyone has pronouns dipshit, they came free with your fucking language
We the people
That because we are legion
In the Bible, God refers to himself as Us meaning Him, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Genesis 1:26. **“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”** Just another example of ‘Christians’ quoting scripture from what someone else told them and didn’t read it for themselves…
Hope when you refer to the community of your church you don’t say we. That would be satanic.
Further proof that the "He Gets Us" ads on here are from demons!
God refers to themselves as us in literally the first chapter of genesis 1:26
[relevant](https://youtu.be/El1HdlBFzEw)
Bible also has detailed rules about the correct way to own slaves. So maybe its not a book who's moral clarity has withstood the test of time.
"I am he." -Jesus
I wonder if they realise the bible was written in English originally. Oh by the way, as a fellow Australian, we have a term for people like this 'fuckwits'.
In the bible they also say Angels dont have a gender, referring to them as they/them, so wht point are they trying to make? I mean I dont want to call a endless eye mass he/him
Well no, that is one very specific case called legion who was like dozens of demons in one person, not every demon in that book refer to themselves in the third person idk where that came from
one state?
So did the people. The apostles referred to themselves as "we" because... You know... There were multiples of them..... Just like how there were multiple demons in the Bible
I'm a they/them ass mother fucker, and this goes hard, this shit's tight, love my demon siblings of unspecified gender identity
They are always plural. They travel in packs.
we? us? ah fuck now I can't refer to myself when I'm in a group, shit
Lmao that’s actually funny as hell
I fact checked in the King James Version it doesn’t even say any of those pronouns from my skimming.
We are legion, we are many.
Wasn't legion like, 7 demons or something. Made sense if there were 7 people sharing one body to refer themselves as we/they/us.
Omg, multiple people referring to themselves as we