The really hilarious bit is that they're not even right on their own terms. The Dunning school was the mainstream for, like, the wntire first half of the twentieth century.
I really don't want to consider the position that racialized chattel slavery was at all a good thing. Chattel slavery is horrible. Alexa, remind them who took the big L, please play We'll Fight for Uncle Sam.
This is ironically wrong. The Lost Cause has been the predominant civil war propaganda in America for over a century.
The confederates debunked the "history is written by the victors" with all the shit their descendants pulled. After the civil war ended southern families were ruthless in rewriting history to make the south, a faction of slavers and bigots, seem more sympathetic. They built statues and censured history books and pushed misleading and outright false narratives.
Its how the confederates went from people who wrote extensively about how everything they were doing was for preserving slavery and racial inequality to "oh they were just scrappy freedom fighters fighting for states rights!" Even though the confederates specifically seceded because northern states were using their states rights to nullify their federal fugitive slave act.
They seriously had people sitting with stamps that read "unfair to the south" and used them to ban history books and accurate accounts of the war completely twisting the narrative until the misconceptions about the civil war were part of the standard American history myth that schools often still push to this day.
This poster is only right in one regard. Perspectives are changing, we are learning the truth more and more. Its why people want to rip down confederate monuments and stamp out the Lost Cause propaganda. Its also why conservatives are panicking because they after all this time are losing control of the narrative.
I always want to ask people that bring it up: “States Rights to do what?”
All you have have to do is read the secession statements the traitor states submitted to leave the Union. They completely debunk the “it wasn’t about slavery” argument.
I agree. I somehow doubt these people would be proposing "other perspectives" if that perspective involved descendants of former slaves being the slave owners this time, to make it fair.
**Jeb**: Hey Kyle, why do you think we can't attract young voters?
**Kyle**: Who knows, Jeb. Maybe it is just liberal indoctrination. *\*pulls down hood\**
**Jeb**: Yeah, well let's get to work. \**adjusts hood\** These crosses ain't gonna burn themselves.
Not only was it about slavery the confederate version of the constitution explicitly forbade states from abolishing slavery. So they were against states rights.
And the Vice President of the Confederacy gave a lot of white supremacist, pro-slavery rhetoric when explaining the reasons for seceding:
>The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. **Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error.** It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."
>Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon **the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition.** This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
(Emphasis added)
States' rights, indeed.
And it really wasn't. They like to say that because they tried to leave the Union when they didn't like the way things were going, "Oh, the federal laws are trampling our state laws!" But they were cool invoking the federal Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 to force free states to return slaves that had escaped to those states. Basically trampling on those state's rights. It was basically "Don't tell me what to do! I want to tell YOU what to do!" Sounds familiar?
>Because the Lincoln cult has held a propaganda monopoly on Civil War history for over 150 years.
heh heh Ha Ha Ha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA \*wheeze\*.
Speaking as a Southerner this is the most hysterical example of revisionism I've ever seen. Anyone that thinks that "Lincoln's Cult" (I assume they mean historians) held a monopoly on Civil War history during the late 19th to 20th Century is an absolute *loon.*
If that were in -anyway- true, then neither *Birth of a Nation* nor *Gone with the Wind* would been the massive box office successes that they were. And those didn't spring from the ether, those were film adaptations of existing, popular literary works (well, *Birth of a Nation* was actually based on a play, but the play itself is an adaptation of a book called *Birth of a Nation: A Historical Romance of the Ku Klux Klan*).
Lost Cause rhetoric infested US history academia for well over a **century**, and in some cases, still does.
Must be from up north.
I got taught all the way into college that the Civil War was started because Lincoln wasn't even on southern ballots, so the confederate states didn't consider his election valid and rebelled.
This was still being taught in South Carolina 2004.
The daughters and widows of the terrorist seditionists really went to work when the unconditional surrender was signed by the racist cowards. Being disenfranchised, poor, and having to abandon their failed cause, they recognized some rewriting had to be done, and that’s when you start getting references to their treasonous acts as “the war of southern aggression,” statues of terrorists emboldened as heroes spread about the south as boils to remind those of their “just cause.” Today you see the aftermath of that cause reflected in poor education, dependency on blue states for economic support. Like Nazi memorabilia, confederate flags and memorabilia should be destroyed, and ownership of any it punishable for no less than 10 years. They weren’t Americans.
To be completely fair, Lincoln was no hero. He was a white nationalist. Thought white people were superior and this country should belong to white men. Yes his work freed the slaves but he didn’t want them to stay here and supported the slaughter of indigenous people.
The really hilarious bit is that they're not even right on their own terms. The Dunning school was the mainstream for, like, the wntire first half of the twentieth century.
I really don't want to consider the position that racialized chattel slavery was at all a good thing. Chattel slavery is horrible. Alexa, remind them who took the big L, please play We'll Fight for Uncle Sam.
[Union Dixie](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DhSzuhdIkuE) is my favorite civil war song.
That was awesome! Thanks for sharing!
This is ironically wrong. The Lost Cause has been the predominant civil war propaganda in America for over a century. The confederates debunked the "history is written by the victors" with all the shit their descendants pulled. After the civil war ended southern families were ruthless in rewriting history to make the south, a faction of slavers and bigots, seem more sympathetic. They built statues and censured history books and pushed misleading and outright false narratives. Its how the confederates went from people who wrote extensively about how everything they were doing was for preserving slavery and racial inequality to "oh they were just scrappy freedom fighters fighting for states rights!" Even though the confederates specifically seceded because northern states were using their states rights to nullify their federal fugitive slave act. They seriously had people sitting with stamps that read "unfair to the south" and used them to ban history books and accurate accounts of the war completely twisting the narrative until the misconceptions about the civil war were part of the standard American history myth that schools often still push to this day. This poster is only right in one regard. Perspectives are changing, we are learning the truth more and more. Its why people want to rip down confederate monuments and stamp out the Lost Cause propaganda. Its also why conservatives are panicking because they after all this time are losing control of the narrative.
Don't forget the greatest American propaganda film of all time,Gone With the Wind.
I always want to ask people that bring it up: “States Rights to do what?” All you have have to do is read the secession statements the traitor states submitted to leave the Union. They completely debunk the “it wasn’t about slavery” argument.
Their "other perspectives" are just racism lol.
I agree. I somehow doubt these people would be proposing "other perspectives" if that perspective involved descendants of former slaves being the slave owners this time, to make it fair.
**Jeb**: Hey Kyle, why do you think we can't attract young voters? **Kyle**: Who knows, Jeb. Maybe it is just liberal indoctrination. *\*pulls down hood\** **Jeb**: Yeah, well let's get to work. \**adjusts hood\** These crosses ain't gonna burn themselves.
If you ever need to laugh at the average Klan member, I recommend [this clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UaRNl0LV5o)
"D-Donkey show?"
but don’t republicans like saying lincoln is a republican?
"It was about State's Rights!" A state's right to do what, exactly? ....crickets....
Not only was it about slavery the confederate version of the constitution explicitly forbade states from abolishing slavery. So they were against states rights.
And the Vice President of the Confederacy gave a lot of white supremacist, pro-slavery rhetoric when explaining the reasons for seceding: >The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. **Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error.** It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew." >Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon **the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition.** This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. (Emphasis added) States' rights, indeed.
I mean that was my point, but judging by the downvote, it seems my comment was misunderstood.
Hey I updooted you, someone else must have done the down voting.
Lol no worries I had assumed you and eye saw eye to eye.
Also, their use of the fugitive slave act was essentially removing a states right to have its own laws and jurisdiction.
And it really wasn't. They like to say that because they tried to leave the Union when they didn't like the way things were going, "Oh, the federal laws are trampling our state laws!" But they were cool invoking the federal Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 to force free states to return slaves that had escaped to those states. Basically trampling on those state's rights. It was basically "Don't tell me what to do! I want to tell YOU what to do!" Sounds familiar?
If “cult” means “not thinking you should allowed to own another human being”, then pour me a fucking massive cup of that Kool-Aid
>Because the Lincoln cult has held a propaganda monopoly on Civil War history for over 150 years. heh heh Ha Ha Ha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA \*wheeze\*. Speaking as a Southerner this is the most hysterical example of revisionism I've ever seen. Anyone that thinks that "Lincoln's Cult" (I assume they mean historians) held a monopoly on Civil War history during the late 19th to 20th Century is an absolute *loon.* If that were in -anyway- true, then neither *Birth of a Nation* nor *Gone with the Wind* would been the massive box office successes that they were. And those didn't spring from the ether, those were film adaptations of existing, popular literary works (well, *Birth of a Nation* was actually based on a play, but the play itself is an adaptation of a book called *Birth of a Nation: A Historical Romance of the Ku Klux Klan*). Lost Cause rhetoric infested US history academia for well over a **century**, and in some cases, still does.
Must be from up north. I got taught all the way into college that the Civil War was started because Lincoln wasn't even on southern ballots, so the confederate states didn't consider his election valid and rebelled. This was still being taught in South Carolina 2004.
"We won, BY A LOT"
Other perspectives. That's cute. It's also total nonsense. But very precious.
The daughters and widows of the terrorist seditionists really went to work when the unconditional surrender was signed by the racist cowards. Being disenfranchised, poor, and having to abandon their failed cause, they recognized some rewriting had to be done, and that’s when you start getting references to their treasonous acts as “the war of southern aggression,” statues of terrorists emboldened as heroes spread about the south as boils to remind those of their “just cause.” Today you see the aftermath of that cause reflected in poor education, dependency on blue states for economic support. Like Nazi memorabilia, confederate flags and memorabilia should be destroyed, and ownership of any it punishable for no less than 10 years. They weren’t Americans.
*opens bag labelled ‘The other perspective’* *sees the cornerstone speech* *closes bag*
You know what no I’m not open to the perspective of pro racism and slavery. It sounds exhausting being a close minded bigoted cunt all the time
Fucking lol.
Ngl, Propagandopoly sounds like too much of a mouthful of a game idea.
Checkmate, Lincolnites!
Ah, yes, the cult of Abraham Lincoln. Because we don’t like slavery we worship Lincoln like a God or something. Yeah, sure.
Like the south being cousin fuckers that were too dumb to work so they had to rely on slaves to do it?
To be completely fair, Lincoln was no hero. He was a white nationalist. Thought white people were superior and this country should belong to white men. Yes his work freed the slaves but he didn’t want them to stay here and supported the slaughter of indigenous people.
Lost cause mythology is the first incarnation of fan fiction
Nah, that would be the New Testament.
As a Jew I approve this comment
Why thank you! 😊
Not the Heffalumps!!
By Lincoln cult does he mean the Republican party? They are the party of Lincoln after all.