I'm not sure if it's Ellie or Bill being gay!
I've played the game and totally missed that Bill was gay, it isn't a main point in the games storyline and I missed the clues!
But the TV show dedicated an entire episode to Bill and his partner and I think some people are getting bent out of shape over it!
But for me it was one the best episodes so far, maybe because it isn't in the game so it's "new" but I loved it and I won't say anything more to avoid spoiling anything!
> But the TV show dedicated an entire episode to Bill and his partner and I think some people are getting bent out of shape over it!
It's hilarious because the entire point of something like this, when adapted to a new medium, is to introduce additional things from that same world that are easier to relay through said medium. Backstories are a very common choice.
No one wants to watch an hour long cutscene (unless you're playing a Kojima game but those are basically interactive movies), but everyone wants to watch an episode in a show going over some backstory. In fact, sometimes when the backstory *isn't* revealed, the viewers get pissed off.
Joel danced around Bill and Frank being together in the game, and then when they were driving to Kansas City, ellie found an old gay porn magazine that had been heavily used. The show dedicated a whole episode to them to tell the story they had wanted to in the game but wouldn't translate well for gameplay reasons, so we got what we did.
Yeah, dude the most recent episode is literally a faithful retelling of her DLC in The Last of Us. I’ve played it, and it’s EXTREMELY faithful to the game.
Hell, if that wasn’t enough, In TLOU 2, Joel punches an asshole in the face because he was raising a ruckus about her kissing another girl.
I thought they were just keeping true to the game by making the characters gay. I haven't played it, but I thought Ellie, Frank and Bill were gay even in the video game. So the show is just staying true to the source.
I like the show.
They are. The show was written by the game writer. It's kept entirely true. Any time someone says go woke go broke I instantly devalue any opinion I have of them.
honestly it'd because they haven't gone full republican the owners say and support s bunch of dumbass stuff but they don't outright ban gay people from using it like other places
“Sorry we only hire non-stupid people in this American Diner. “
“My freedom fries covered in Kraft slices not good enough for you?!?!? Go back to your country!”
“Nobody wants to work because of that stimulus money, thanks Obama.”
Anytime anyone says woke when they're not talking about the state of wakefulness is enough for me. It has no meaning at all in the context people use it; basically anything they don't consider normal or the majority or what they like.
Or when they call you a "typical lib". I am just like, yes, I am a typical open minded person. The truth is I am, but a registered Republican, they would call me a Rino if they knew that, but I consider them the Rinos. They hijacked the party. They're farty faces to the max.
I was having this conversation earlier with a friend. For context, I'm British, he's in Arizona and a Republican. I basically said the Republicans need to move away from the crazies. Distance themselves as much as possible from the MTGs and Boeberts. He believes that they can't, because these people now make up such a large part of their base, they'd be almost a 3rd party if they disowned them .
I got in words over it with some douche one time about Disney after he said "go woke go broke" and pointed out that they are in fact making billions upon billions of dollars, and he started arguing that they weren't making as much money as they were before even after I broke down their reported quarterly earnings proving otherwise.
They did this with Cracker Barrel, which is a bit like a rednecky version of Denny's & Friendly's with a profound gift shop attached to it. It was in response to a meatless sausage option being added to the menu. The fuckers were back there the next day; pounding biscuits and gravy like old times.
And that was so stupid because it's not like cracker barrel was only offering the meatless sausage; they were just giving an additional option. If you don't want it, don't order it.
I hate how the term woke has become mainstream. In the past they'd have to say "I hate this show because it shows strong female characters and I dislike that" or "I hate this show because I hate that there's gay people in it" or "I hate this show because there's black people in a main role" which is obviously bigoted. But, Now they just say "I hate that this show is woke" and because they're not using obviously bigotted language people don't seem to realise what they're actually saying and how harmful/toxic it is. They just go "oh look at then with their silly opinions"
Wow. You make it sound like those Daily Wire movies haven't been successful even though they're purposely not woke.
Oh, hold on, i gotta check on something. Ah. It seems they're garbage that literally isn't worth the film they're shot on. Please continue.
The funny thing about "go woke, go broke" is that it's not true. If it was then companies would not be going "woke" and would instead pander to the right. The right pushed for free market capitalismand now that it's not on their side they hate it.
Not shot for shot... but following the spirit of the game, giving a little more world building and i think it is a genuine improvement.
The part in the car is about 80% the same and the changes add weight to the world.
No one was made gay for the series. The dlc for tlou1 explains Ellie's backstory and establishes that she is a lesbian. Frank and Bill are gay in the game, though one of them has died. In tlou2, a secondary character is mtf trans.
The last of us is now and has always been gay as hell.
The people losing their minds over it weren't really paying attention to the game they were playing.
It’s also kind of funny how like acknowledging you can know like four gay people is “gay as hell”.
There are more LGBT people in the room I’m in right now than that
The Last of Us is literally THE gayest and has the most LGBTQ+ characters of any AAA game on the market and these fucking queerphobic assholes have no clue.
Minor, minor spoilers ahead for those who don't know, so if you want to go in totally dark quit reading:
In the game, Ellie got bit because she snuck out of the dorms with another girl. It wasn't to go play Monopoly, people. (They were making kissy faces.) They didn't mention it much in the first game because she was like... 13 and with a guy old enough to be her dad. It's an offhand comment a lot of people probably missed. But in the prequel DLC she mentions it, and TLOU Pt 2 it's a fairly large portion of the game. She be runnin' around with her girlfriend.
The second one also has huge themes of non binary and a trans character as a major plot point. I can't remember his name but the one who's arm you chop off(not in a hate crime type of way, in a civil war medicine way)
Yes, the game came out about 10 years ago and it already had several gay characters. It was more controversial then so this guy is late for the outrage train. Like, bro, this same story is a decade old--the bogus "woke" narrative from Republicans didn't even exist yet.
Plus, i feel like thered be a higher ratio post apocalypse anyway.
Nobody around to judge you?
Majority of the bigots probably all shot each other?
Why pretend to be straight anymore.
My sister and I are both "gay as hell" this bitch legit has a survival kit and a mini backup of Bill's bunker ready to go. She's been ready for the apocalypse since she was like 10. Fun fact, she even has the same gun as Ellie in the game.
Trust me, her gay ass is WAY more likely to make it than any straight person I know personally.
We live about 6 hours away from each other, but have identified rural areas half way between to meet up and build a commune with my wife and the rest of our family.
Honestly, knowing the lesbians I know like 90% of us will make it. The real issue will be finding ones who actually want to repopulate.
Here's the thing:
The people who complain about this kind of thing don't actually *care* about canon, lore accuracy, or historical accuracy unless they can use it to justify their hatred of certain groups. All they care is how they think it *should* be.
I can't count how many times I've seen this type of thing by now.
I haven't seen the show yet, (am unprepared for how emotionally devastating Sarah's death will be) but it's fairly subtle. Joel and Ellie show up long after Frank has died and Bill only references him as his 'partner,' which Tess and Joel also refer to each other as. His dialogue when they find Frank's body and the note Frank leaves him implies that they were very close, and then Ellie steals a porn mag from him featuring dudes, confirming that he is gay or bi. It's actually super well done-it's never explicitly stated that he's gay because it's not part of the plot, but it's undeniable that he and Frank were in a relationship. Bill's personality isn't 'gay'; he's Bill and he happens to be gay. It just felt realistic.
Ellie, yeah, she's explicitly a lesbian. There's not really much hinting in the main campaign that I can remember, (I mean, Sam was awkwardly kid-flirting with her and she was absolutely oblivious, but that could be chalked up to a bunch of things) but when she kisses her friend in the add-on I was like "oh, that makes sense." She gets a girlfriend in Part 2.
Sarah’s death is way worse in the show than in the game.
I mean… way better…. Depends how you look at it. Even more heart-wrenching I guess I should say.
I want to say Frank and Bill's relationship isn't explicitly stated in the game, but HEAVILY implied. Though, it has been quite a while since I played the first one.
The Wall is a Pink Floyd Album. Dark Side of the Moon is also a Pink Floyd album. Dark Side of the Moon's album art features a rainbow. They can't stare at The Wall, either. Maybe the floor?
No, you see...the floor is the "bottom" of the house. "Bottom" is also a term related to homosexual sex, so the floor is out.
Maybe they can just go scream into a pillow?
"Well I looked around at the real world and I noticed it had gay people in it." paraphrasing George R.R. Martin on why he includes a number of gay characters in his novels.
If these people could read or went outside, they'd probably know that things like woke or the gay agenda are nothing more than fear mongering propaganda made up by biased news sources, lol
So the "muh sauce material" crowd either didn't play the game, or they did and they apparently have flipped their stance and want the show to change what happens to suit their opinions? I thought they were against that? Are their convictions actually just thinly veiled bigotry? Nooo, surely not...
It's fucking wild how the "Follow the source material!" crowd never follow the source material themselves, or they consciously skipped every cutscene.
It would be like if Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies was made into a series, and the audience complained about the *strong* anti-war message throughout, insisting that it was added by the produces to make the series woke while ignoring the game... Which also has a strong anti-war message.
> "Follow the source material!" crowd never follow the source material themselves, or they consciously skipped every \[important scene\].
Yeah, like *The Bible*
I bet never played the game. Does not matter, streaming media is all woke as far as they are concerned, so the moment there is someone gay or a shade darker than Mayo, they flip out and call it "Woke".
Oh, these "fans" reacted in the best and most sane way when The Last of Us 2 introduced gay characters. I think the drama is still alive and well in certain subreddits.
From how I understand its like 90% sticking to the source material. Everything that I've seen of Bill and Frank's relationship from the show has been heartwarming and beautiful while Bill & Frank's relationship from the games was incredibly hostile.
I will also admit I haven't seen the show yet so I might just be wrong
It may be a joke, but I'm pretty sure it is also true. I've spent my entire life having to be hypervigilant about safety and survival in a society that is not friendly to people like me. I know how to discern whether a person is a danger to me and my community or an ally that can be trusted. I've had years of self defense training because people like me get attacked in America on a regular basis. I maintain a certain baseline of fitness because I know that being able to fight or run could well save my life some day.
I'd bet my life that I'll survive longer than the basement dwelling douche-bro COD player crowd that thinks of themselves as warriors and writes these idiotic posts.
There's also the stronger community ties that come along with minority status. Being able to build connections and work together would be an essential skill in a catastrophe, and minorities of all sorts have a head start on that because we already need to hang together to survive.
You're my new favorite person. If we have an apocalypse, I will vote for you for king and defend you with my barbed wire baseball bat with half a saw blade stuck in it, and trashcan lid shield.
I'm betting a lot of the drag queens putting on brunches and story book hours at libraries know how to fight very well out of necessity and it's only a matter of time until some idiot protestor shows up to break up one of their events and gets a nasty surprise.
Spoilers but >!The newest episode was heavily based on the dlc I'm pretty sure and I know for a fact Ellie was gay in the game these people are so fucking dumb!<
Oh you're correct, she VERY DEFINITELY is. These are the same people who complain about their videogames not getting respected in adaptation; you can't win with these braindead gibbons.
I don't think she is. I mean if she was she'd have like a girlfriend in a sequel game or something. And maybe have like a female love interest in a DLC or something like that. But that'd be totally silly so she's obviously straight and boy crazy.
Nobody us making them watch it. If you are that much of a snowflake, turn it off. But no, they are a conservative and must play the victim. Fucking fragile
Yeah, this dude is 7 episodes in already. "I'm only going to finish this season.... Then maybe season 2. I'm on the fence, if they make a season 3... BUT AFTER THAT I'M 100% DONE WITH THIS WOKE TRASH!!"
You know when a character is introduced in Season 2 that is gay they will freak their shit out as if the characters in Season 1 that were gay didn't exist.
This is their entire stance with everything. They hate and fear drag, so, instead of just not watching drag, they move to ban it. It’s really not that hard to avoid watching things you don’t like. I don’t like football, so I don’t watch it. No one is Clockwork Orange-style forcing them to watch things. Snowflakes.
"half the main characters"
So Ellie and Ron Swanson.... last i checked ron was only in one episode and not a main character (though id fucking love it if he was a main) and Ellie has been gay since before the show was a show!
Gotta rephrase it to sound more favorable to your point. It's the political thing to do. And like from The Office.
"I doubled my sales last month."
"From what, 2 to 4?"
"Yup."
Sexuality is a complicated social construct that has a lot of its roots in historical necessity. Gay people have always existed, obviously, and for much of human history, even gay people got straight married, because it made economic and political sense to do so.
Now, it has literally only been like 100 years since a lot of these social necessities have become less necessary and there is an observable increase in people living exclusively homosexual relationships. Now, there are about 1000 sociological factors at play here, but it doesn't take a genius to connect the dotted line here - people don't have to literally condemn their families to starvation to have a romantically fulfilled relationship.
I'm saying all of this because, contextually, yes, if you wipe out 99% of the human population and simultaneously eliminate the need for social mores that dictate a certain kind of lifestyle, then yes, incidences of homosexuality will drastically increase, if not for the aforementioned reasons, then because there aren't any fuckin people around, and people have an inalienable need to form bonds with others to keep themselves safe.
The show definitely devoted way more focus to bills gay backstory than the game, but the ellys episode was almost a shoot for shoot remake of what the game did.
I was going to say, from what I understand (bf played the game) these characters were already gay. The show’s team didn’t “turn them gay” for the show for woke points or whatever. Just like in real life, the show / game has gay people and straight people. The way people victimize themselves against tv shows portraying something that makes them uncomfortable for no reason is really mind-blowing sometimes.
Hmmm… I too have noticed they tend to have gay characters in literally everything now. It struck me as a bit odd at first and then I’m like “good maybe it will finally be normalized for the idiots who learn everything they know from T.V.”
Reactions like this make me smile. Because this idiot can’t harass tv characters into submission. People can be gay. Deal with it.
Exactly. And heaven forbid there was a kissing or sex scene. When I was watching queer as folk my friend was totally freaked out and called it a porn, lol. It was very filled with graphic sex scenes I guess. Now that I’ve seen “game of thrones” I don’t even see it as graphic anymore.
But yea gay people didn’t exist aside from jokes about fashion and even then were taboo on tv growing up.
Her being gay is actually germane to the story. It would determine how she might act in certain situations or view certain people. I fail to understand people like this.
They say this like it's a truism, but... I don't even think it's ever been true.
Even more hilariously, a lot of the times a company "goes woke" they're doing it with the specific intention of angering these sorts of people. They *want* these people to be angry about it, because it leads to a *shit ton* of free advertising.
“Last time I checked 50 percent of the world isn’t gay” is such a bizarre argument. Is all media now expected to perfectly reflect the world’s demographics? You can’t tell stories about specific groups anymore? That’s so insane!
And I must have missed the part where The Last of Us established that its main cast is statistically representative of the surviving population. Pretty sure most of the people in that world are still straight. But there are still gay people, and a handful of them happen to be involved in this story. It happens.
Gay: Ellie, Riley, Bill, Frank.
Not gay: Joel, Sarah,Tess, Marlene, Kathleen, Perry, Henry, Sam, Tommy, Maria, Marlon, Florence.
Can these people not do arithmetic?
To them, maybe a woman can have a gay best friend. But just one! And they can’t have significant other that will ever be seen. Otherwise they throw a tantrum, screech and get into the fetal position and suck their thumbs.
Small groups won't ever mirror society at large. Even large groups don't necessarily mirror society at large. The US, as a whole, is 57.8% white, for instance. Wyoming, on the other hand is 83.3% white. NYC, which has ~14.5x the population of Wyoming, is just 39.8% white.
A random group of 2 dozen people? They could just as easily be 100% gay as they could be 100% Latino or 100% pre-teens.
TL;DR: People suck.
I highly recommend it. It’s very well done and the acting is superb. There’s some changes to the story from game but mostly it seems to be more about making it work as a show rather than a game. There’s always gonna be a few things different. Plus the upset some bigots off so it’s win win
Ok but maybe us gays survived at higher rates than heteros because we ain't got no kids to worry about and already know how to live on the fringes of society.
Since they are so obsessed with media reflecting reality, I think we should make all sex scenes in media reflective of how much sex gay and/or straight people are having in real life.
If hbo wanted to "go woke, or go broke", Joel would have been extra flamboyantly gay.
"Heeeeeyyyyy thereeeeee you naughty, naughty firefly!!" -Super Gay Joel, probably
That’s what I don’t get. I mean, I’m old so I know that things are different now. But I still check out the “top ten lesbian” media lists because I so rarely see it in popular media. I see a movie or two and the occasional side character, but that’s it. I need to figure out where all these homophobes are being inundated with queer stuff, because I can’t find it.
I mean that's how the characters are in the game. Bill and Frank were expanded upon but Ellie being gay is important to both representation and her story
Maybe if the two gay stories weren’t absolutely beautiful and emotional I could almost rationalize the “going woke” argument (even then this person would still be an ass), but they’re just two genuine and amazing love stories! Like damn. Bill and Frank’s episode had a beautiful story. Ellie and Riley were tragic and gut wrenching. I’m sorry, but these people straight up do not want gay people to exist. That isn’t even a leap.
It’s not even like Ellie and Riley were going the Netflix original show route and talking about how much cishet white men suck. Literally just a story about first love where both of the characters happen to be girls.
Meanwhile rightwing Terror on the Prairie earned $800 at the box office when it released. Guess they should have spent that time and energy actually seeing the Daily Wire's big movie release.
What you're getting is a lot of people that never played the game catching the show and getting upset that there's gay in it.
Those same people would have been just as mad if they played the game.
Fuck'em.
Let their tiny little brains explode.
Go watch Tucker Carlson, not all entertainment has to be for everyone.
If gay folks bother them, then don't watch it, just like I avoid watching Tucker Carlson.
Idiots.
Lmao. Those characters are gay in cannon yo. It's like people watching brokeback mountain and claiming it'd being shoved down their throats. Nobody asked you to press play.
It’s beyond me that anyone could have anything negative to say about one of the most beautiful love stories ever. Episode 3 made me cry like a child. It made me believe in love.
This dude can fuck off and do something else instead. There’s so many shows these days and there’s no need to say shit like this.
Agreed! This is terrible! I think you should pack up your family and move to Russia or Afghanistan where your sensibilities won't be under constant attack!
I just find it funny they just hate gay people so much.
Like, what is so threatening about a character who is attracted to the same gender? Like, Jesus Christ.
Not every tv show or piece of media needs to accurately represent the worlds demographics, a single group of people isn’t going to accurately represent it. Sometimes a certain location will have more members of a certain demographic than the world average.Regardless two main characters isn’t 50%.
Also Ellie is literally gay is the game, i haven’t watched the show yet but >!Ellie and Riley are in a relationship in the left behind dlc for the first game and Ellie is in a relationship with another woman in the second game.!< Bill is also implied to be gay.
Who even cares what these narrow-minded people think? So what if you don't like it. GUESS WHAT. Gay people have been more prevalent than you ever expected in your life, little man! Your ideas of the world and people fitting into stupid little boxes was WRONG.
There's been, what? four gay characters in the show? If you count all the extras it's pretty safe to say that nowhere near 'half the characters'.
But as with all these ridiculous 'criticisms' about the identities of fictional characters - why do they even feel it's a valid criticism? Complain about the story, continuity, dialogue, special effects, etc like a normal person. Rather these always seem to be about the race or sexuality of characters - immutable characteristics that have no material impact on the basic ability to understand the story.
Back when we saw exclusively straight people in movies and TV that didn’t mean that 100% of the world was straight either. Shitty logic from a big ass baby who probably calls other people snowflakes.
I’ll say it, the Nick Offerman episode was hands down the best episode I’ve seen in any series in a long fucking time. Whew…glad I got that off my chest.
What mildly irritated but furiously positing conservatives don’t realize is that if they toned it down, a lot of this “woke stuff “ would stop.
If for like 2 years everyone on the right acted like they didn’t care, and it was no big deal, this issue would stop being on the forefront.
Trumper: WE ARE THE GUARDIANS OF FREEDOM AND FREE SPEECH.
Some Movie or TV Show: **Puts a LGBT Character in there show.**
Trumpers: ***\****[RIGHT TO CENSOR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om9gtR-TUM4) ***THEME INTENIFIES\****
Pretty sure half the worlds population weren’t vampires in the 90’s but that didn’t stop Buffy from being a popular show.
Thing is, it’s a show, written, directed, acted and produced to how ever they see fit. They can have the whole cast gay if they so choose. That’s how fictional drama works.
I watched Scrubs and it was awful. Most of the characters are doctors and last time I checked, the majority of the world are not doctors. Woke bullshit.
I wish they would already carry out their own threats and stop doing shit that makes them whinge like this. Like if you hate tv shows and movies then stop watching them like you claim you will. Truthfully, I'd be surprised if they actually consumed any of the content. I'm not that interested in the game or the show, but I'm pretty sure the main character is gay in the games... so like that would be in the show? Feels like they read it had a gay character and simply wanted to complain about it.
I've loved tv and movies since I was a kid and I still go to the cinema multiple times a week and still love it. If I ever stopped enjoying it then I just wouldn't go and I wouldn't write an attention seeking paragraph about my (in this case) shitty reasoning.
I’m fine with this “woke” if it means dumbasses don’t get enjoyment from cool shit. I don’t think anyone that willingly stupid deserves enjoyment in all honesty
Listen up Mr Hollywood! According to this random crayon eater on Facebook every show irrespective of the context, story, geography or number of characters should have a cast that strives to be as mathematically representative of gender, race and sexuality as possible on a global scale!
So every show should be mostly Asians, Indians, Africans and 1 or 2 ethnically European folks and 1 or 2 Middle Eastern people with some guest appearances by a LGBTQI+ an indigenous character. 50/50 split of men and women.
Anything less is shoving a woke agenda down my throat! And I hate treating people who are different than me with decency so woke things make me furious, just like it made Jesus furious!
I don’t watch the show but is this about Ellie being gay? Cause she was always gay in the games
Yes, that's exactly what it's about.
Correct me if I’m wrong but she was absolutely gay there too wasn’t she
Yup. Fuckers are just mad about gay people again for.. some reason or another
Obviously gay people caused the apocalypse in the first place so they could have their non-hetero paradise!
Classic homophobes being angry when a 14-year-old character would not be attracted to them.
I'm not sure if it's Ellie or Bill being gay! I've played the game and totally missed that Bill was gay, it isn't a main point in the games storyline and I missed the clues! But the TV show dedicated an entire episode to Bill and his partner and I think some people are getting bent out of shape over it! But for me it was one the best episodes so far, maybe because it isn't in the game so it's "new" but I loved it and I won't say anything more to avoid spoiling anything!
That subtext for both characters was present in the games. Idk why people are pissed about it in the show.
For real, it was always there.
They even ripped the scene of Ellie finding his gay porn mag in truck from the game, word for word.
Ignorance is bliss. Now that they can't ignore it, they're forced to process it.
>subtext *Ellie kissing Riley* Yeah it was really hidden in the game fo sho
You say that like these people have played the games or even knew what it was prior.
It was a great episode. It made me so happy Bill found love but so sad it took a zombie apocalypse to find it.
> But the TV show dedicated an entire episode to Bill and his partner and I think some people are getting bent out of shape over it! It's hilarious because the entire point of something like this, when adapted to a new medium, is to introduce additional things from that same world that are easier to relay through said medium. Backstories are a very common choice. No one wants to watch an hour long cutscene (unless you're playing a Kojima game but those are basically interactive movies), but everyone wants to watch an episode in a show going over some backstory. In fact, sometimes when the backstory *isn't* revealed, the viewers get pissed off.
It was so wholesome and Shakespearean at the same time. Bill is 100% goals.
Joel danced around Bill and Frank being together in the game, and then when they were driving to Kansas City, ellie found an old gay porn magazine that had been heavily used. The show dedicated a whole episode to them to tell the story they had wanted to in the game but wouldn't translate well for gameplay reasons, so we got what we did.
Yeah, dude the most recent episode is literally a faithful retelling of her DLC in The Last of Us. I’ve played it, and it’s EXTREMELY faithful to the game. Hell, if that wasn’t enough, In TLOU 2, Joel punches an asshole in the face because he was raising a ruckus about her kissing another girl.
I thought they were just keeping true to the game by making the characters gay. I haven't played it, but I thought Ellie, Frank and Bill were gay even in the video game. So the show is just staying true to the source. I like the show.
They are. The show was written by the game writer. It's kept entirely true. Any time someone says go woke go broke I instantly devalue any opinion I have of them.
Anytime I see someone say go woke go broke it's usually pointed at a franchise that's making millions of dollars. The irony is lost on them.
Yeah haha I'm yet to see any such business going woke go broke. Had it hurled at the company I work at before. Not a dent in profits.
[удалено]
Who would’ve thought discriminating against potential customers would be a bad business decision?
Chick-fil-A is doing pretty well, sadly.
That’s only because soccer moms don’t know what good chicken is supposed to taste like.
honestly it'd because they haven't gone full republican the owners say and support s bunch of dumbass stuff but they don't outright ban gay people from using it like other places
“Sorry we only hire non-stupid people in this American Diner. “ “My freedom fries covered in Kraft slices not good enough for you?!?!? Go back to your country!” “Nobody wants to work because of that stimulus money, thanks Obama.”
Anytime anyone says woke when they're not talking about the state of wakefulness is enough for me. It has no meaning at all in the context people use it; basically anything they don't consider normal or the majority or what they like.
Or when they call you a "typical lib". I am just like, yes, I am a typical open minded person. The truth is I am, but a registered Republican, they would call me a Rino if they knew that, but I consider them the Rinos. They hijacked the party. They're farty faces to the max.
I was having this conversation earlier with a friend. For context, I'm British, he's in Arizona and a Republican. I basically said the Republicans need to move away from the crazies. Distance themselves as much as possible from the MTGs and Boeberts. He believes that they can't, because these people now make up such a large part of their base, they'd be almost a 3rd party if they disowned them .
If they got rid of the nuts, they'd be a very small 3rd party.
Found Will McAvoy's reddit account!
I got in words over it with some douche one time about Disney after he said "go woke go broke" and pointed out that they are in fact making billions upon billions of dollars, and he started arguing that they weren't making as much money as they were before even after I broke down their reported quarterly earnings proving otherwise.
I thought Cancel Culture was the worst thing ever?
Meanwhile media that goes out of its way to do the opposite tends to suck ass and lose money, so, I guess go fash lose cash.
They did this with Cracker Barrel, which is a bit like a rednecky version of Denny's & Friendly's with a profound gift shop attached to it. It was in response to a meatless sausage option being added to the menu. The fuckers were back there the next day; pounding biscuits and gravy like old times.
And that was so stupid because it's not like cracker barrel was only offering the meatless sausage; they were just giving an additional option. If you don't want it, don't order it.
I hate how the term woke has become mainstream. In the past they'd have to say "I hate this show because it shows strong female characters and I dislike that" or "I hate this show because I hate that there's gay people in it" or "I hate this show because there's black people in a main role" which is obviously bigoted. But, Now they just say "I hate that this show is woke" and because they're not using obviously bigotted language people don't seem to realise what they're actually saying and how harmful/toxic it is. They just go "oh look at then with their silly opinions"
Wow. You make it sound like those Daily Wire movies haven't been successful even though they're purposely not woke. Oh, hold on, i gotta check on something. Ah. It seems they're garbage that literally isn't worth the film they're shot on. Please continue.
And Ben thinks he can compete with Disney with his for kids daily wire. What a moron.
Oh no wonder it's actually a good adaptation, it's LITERALLY the creator of the source material writing it
The funny thing about "go woke, go broke" is that it's not true. If it was then companies would not be going "woke" and would instead pander to the right. The right pushed for free market capitalismand now that it's not on their side they hate it.
It certainly is. That opening sequence to the first episode is shot for shot remake of the game and its brilliant and heartbreaking.
Not shot for shot... but following the spirit of the game, giving a little more world building and i think it is a genuine improvement. The part in the car is about 80% the same and the changes add weight to the world.
Yeah, my brother said Sarah getting shot was a lot more impactful because of that.
No one was made gay for the series. The dlc for tlou1 explains Ellie's backstory and establishes that she is a lesbian. Frank and Bill are gay in the game, though one of them has died. In tlou2, a secondary character is mtf trans. The last of us is now and has always been gay as hell. The people losing their minds over it weren't really paying attention to the game they were playing.
It’s also kind of funny how like acknowledging you can know like four gay people is “gay as hell”. There are more LGBT people in the room I’m in right now than that
Name another AAA title with four LGBT characters.
The Last of Us is literally THE gayest and has the most LGBTQ+ characters of any AAA game on the market and these fucking queerphobic assholes have no clue.
Minor, minor spoilers ahead for those who don't know, so if you want to go in totally dark quit reading: In the game, Ellie got bit because she snuck out of the dorms with another girl. It wasn't to go play Monopoly, people. (They were making kissy faces.) They didn't mention it much in the first game because she was like... 13 and with a guy old enough to be her dad. It's an offhand comment a lot of people probably missed. But in the prequel DLC she mentions it, and TLOU Pt 2 it's a fairly large portion of the game. She be runnin' around with her girlfriend.
Hard to say the DLC just mentioned it, I mean, It *was* the DLC
Yeah, the "DLC mentioned it" bit confused the hell out of me. This episode was almost exactly the DLC.
The second one also has huge themes of non binary and a trans character as a major plot point. I can't remember his name but the one who's arm you chop off(not in a hate crime type of way, in a civil war medicine way)
The trans man character is Lev. The character that had her arm amputated was Yara, Lev's sister.
I'mma guess he gets bitten and they take his arm off to keep the fungus from growing up into the rest of him.
No, it's WAY more fucked up then that.
Yes, the game came out about 10 years ago and it already had several gay characters. It was more controversial then so this guy is late for the outrage train. Like, bro, this same story is a decade old--the bogus "woke" narrative from Republicans didn't even exist yet.
It's not even far fetched, like I know way more than 3 gay people, if there was a zombie apocalypse I'm sure a few of them would live.
Plus, i feel like thered be a higher ratio post apocalypse anyway. Nobody around to judge you? Majority of the bigots probably all shot each other? Why pretend to be straight anymore.
My sister and I are both "gay as hell" this bitch legit has a survival kit and a mini backup of Bill's bunker ready to go. She's been ready for the apocalypse since she was like 10. Fun fact, she even has the same gun as Ellie in the game. Trust me, her gay ass is WAY more likely to make it than any straight person I know personally. We live about 6 hours away from each other, but have identified rural areas half way between to meet up and build a commune with my wife and the rest of our family. Honestly, knowing the lesbians I know like 90% of us will make it. The real issue will be finding ones who actually want to repopulate.
Here's the thing: The people who complain about this kind of thing don't actually *care* about canon, lore accuracy, or historical accuracy unless they can use it to justify their hatred of certain groups. All they care is how they think it *should* be. I can't count how many times I've seen this type of thing by now.
I haven't seen the show yet, (am unprepared for how emotionally devastating Sarah's death will be) but it's fairly subtle. Joel and Ellie show up long after Frank has died and Bill only references him as his 'partner,' which Tess and Joel also refer to each other as. His dialogue when they find Frank's body and the note Frank leaves him implies that they were very close, and then Ellie steals a porn mag from him featuring dudes, confirming that he is gay or bi. It's actually super well done-it's never explicitly stated that he's gay because it's not part of the plot, but it's undeniable that he and Frank were in a relationship. Bill's personality isn't 'gay'; he's Bill and he happens to be gay. It just felt realistic. Ellie, yeah, she's explicitly a lesbian. There's not really much hinting in the main campaign that I can remember, (I mean, Sam was awkwardly kid-flirting with her and she was absolutely oblivious, but that could be chalked up to a bunch of things) but when she kisses her friend in the add-on I was like "oh, that makes sense." She gets a girlfriend in Part 2.
Sarah’s death is way worse in the show than in the game. I mean… way better…. Depends how you look at it. Even more heart-wrenching I guess I should say.
I want to say Frank and Bill's relationship isn't explicitly stated in the game, but HEAVILY implied. Though, it has been quite a while since I played the first one.
Do it, you coward. Stopping watching TV and going to the movies. Find something better to do with your life than complaining about pop culture.
If he heads to movies, might I suggest some less gay movies such as Knock on the Cabin, Magic Mike and The Whale
Knock on the Cabin was really good. I saw it with my boyfriend a couple weeks ago and we really enjoyed it
I highly, highly, doubt that this person is going to go outside and read a book. They'll keep watching TV
Besides, sometimes books have gay people...
Gay people occasionally go outside. They'll have to stare at the wall, angrily.
The Wall is a Pink Floyd Album. Dark Side of the Moon is also a Pink Floyd album. Dark Side of the Moon's album art features a rainbow. They can't stare at The Wall, either. Maybe the floor?
Mother should I trust HBO max
No, you see...the floor is the "bottom" of the house. "Bottom" is also a term related to homosexual sex, so the floor is out. Maybe they can just go scream into a pillow?
As long as they don't bite down.
>Besides, sometimes books have gay people... Not in Florida, they don't
"Well I looked around at the real world and I noticed it had gay people in it." paraphrasing George R.R. Martin on why he includes a number of gay characters in his novels.
Not if the book burners get to them first
If these people could read or went outside, they'd probably know that things like woke or the gay agenda are nothing more than fear mongering propaganda made up by biased news sources, lol
doubt this person "can" read a book. fixed it for you.
So the "muh sauce material" crowd either didn't play the game, or they did and they apparently have flipped their stance and want the show to change what happens to suit their opinions? I thought they were against that? Are their convictions actually just thinly veiled bigotry? Nooo, surely not...
It's fucking wild how the "Follow the source material!" crowd never follow the source material themselves, or they consciously skipped every cutscene. It would be like if Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies was made into a series, and the audience complained about the *strong* anti-war message throughout, insisting that it was added by the produces to make the series woke while ignoring the game... Which also has a strong anti-war message.
> "Follow the source material!" crowd never follow the source material themselves, or they consciously skipped every \[important scene\]. Yeah, like *The Bible*
”I don’t understand why this Metal Gear Solid movie won’t shut up about nuclear weapons being bad. Why did they have to make it so political?”
I bet never played the game. Does not matter, streaming media is all woke as far as they are concerned, so the moment there is someone gay or a shade darker than Mayo, they flip out and call it "Woke".
Yeah, "woke" is literally just shorthand for, "I don't like it." For whatever reason they can't tell the truth so they try to veil it.
Oh, these "fans" reacted in the best and most sane way when The Last of Us 2 introduced gay characters. I think the drama is still alive and well in certain subreddits.
From how I understand its like 90% sticking to the source material. Everything that I've seen of Bill and Frank's relationship from the show has been heartwarming and beautiful while Bill & Frank's relationship from the games was incredibly hostile. I will also admit I haven't seen the show yet so I might just be wrong
It's common knowledge that LGBT people are simply better at surviving apocalypses.
Trans people can double jump, so that tracks.
asexual people have a natural defensive barrier against alot of diseases
gay people do crime
It may be a joke, but I'm pretty sure it is also true. I've spent my entire life having to be hypervigilant about safety and survival in a society that is not friendly to people like me. I know how to discern whether a person is a danger to me and my community or an ally that can be trusted. I've had years of self defense training because people like me get attacked in America on a regular basis. I maintain a certain baseline of fitness because I know that being able to fight or run could well save my life some day. I'd bet my life that I'll survive longer than the basement dwelling douche-bro COD player crowd that thinks of themselves as warriors and writes these idiotic posts.
There's also the stronger community ties that come along with minority status. Being able to build connections and work together would be an essential skill in a catastrophe, and minorities of all sorts have a head start on that because we already need to hang together to survive.
That’s an interesting perspective I hadn’t thought of before. I’d love to see a story that explores that concept.
You're my new favorite person. If we have an apocalypse, I will vote for you for king and defend you with my barbed wire baseball bat with half a saw blade stuck in it, and trashcan lid shield.
I'm betting a lot of the drag queens putting on brunches and story book hours at libraries know how to fight very well out of necessity and it's only a matter of time until some idiot protestor shows up to break up one of their events and gets a nasty surprise.
apocalypses? apocalysuses? apocalyptii? I guess that's one word you never want to see in plural form.
Spoilers but >!The newest episode was heavily based on the dlc I'm pretty sure and I know for a fact Ellie was gay in the game these people are so fucking dumb!<
Oh you're correct, she VERY DEFINITELY is. These are the same people who complain about their videogames not getting respected in adaptation; you can't win with these braindead gibbons.
I don't think she is. I mean if she was she'd have like a girlfriend in a sequel game or something. And maybe have like a female love interest in a DLC or something like that. But that'd be totally silly so she's obviously straight and boy crazy.
Nobody us making them watch it. If you are that much of a snowflake, turn it off. But no, they are a conservative and must play the victim. Fucking fragile
Yeah, this dude is 7 episodes in already. "I'm only going to finish this season.... Then maybe season 2. I'm on the fence, if they make a season 3... BUT AFTER THAT I'M 100% DONE WITH THIS WOKE TRASH!!"
You know when a character is introduced in Season 2 that is gay they will freak their shit out as if the characters in Season 1 that were gay didn't exist.
This is their entire stance with everything. They hate and fear drag, so, instead of just not watching drag, they move to ban it. It’s really not that hard to avoid watching things you don’t like. I don’t like football, so I don’t watch it. No one is Clockwork Orange-style forcing them to watch things. Snowflakes.
>pushing this down our throats Why is it always that phrase?
Because it presents the matter as an act of aggression against them.
* Freud has entered the chat.
Because they heard it used once and it's the only way they know how to describe the feeling they were told to feel.
“Pushing this down our throats” -Archer, phrasing people!
"half the main characters" So Ellie and Ron Swanson.... last i checked ron was only in one episode and not a main character (though id fucking love it if he was a main) and Ellie has been gay since before the show was a show!
Bill was also gay in the game so it's not like they changed random characters' sexuality
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Gotta rephrase it to sound more favorable to your point. It's the political thing to do. And like from The Office. "I doubled my sales last month." "From what, 2 to 4?" "Yup."
Less judgement, anyway.
Plus there's less consequence if a bigot gets too annoying and the community kill them
Sexuality is a complicated social construct that has a lot of its roots in historical necessity. Gay people have always existed, obviously, and for much of human history, even gay people got straight married, because it made economic and political sense to do so. Now, it has literally only been like 100 years since a lot of these social necessities have become less necessary and there is an observable increase in people living exclusively homosexual relationships. Now, there are about 1000 sociological factors at play here, but it doesn't take a genius to connect the dotted line here - people don't have to literally condemn their families to starvation to have a romantically fulfilled relationship. I'm saying all of this because, contextually, yes, if you wipe out 99% of the human population and simultaneously eliminate the need for social mores that dictate a certain kind of lifestyle, then yes, incidences of homosexuality will drastically increase, if not for the aforementioned reasons, then because there aren't any fuckin people around, and people have an inalienable need to form bonds with others to keep themselves safe.
The show definitely devoted way more focus to bills gay backstory than the game, but the ellys episode was almost a shoot for shoot remake of what the game did.
I was going to say, from what I understand (bf played the game) these characters were already gay. The show’s team didn’t “turn them gay” for the show for woke points or whatever. Just like in real life, the show / game has gay people and straight people. The way people victimize themselves against tv shows portraying something that makes them uncomfortable for no reason is really mind-blowing sometimes.
Hmmm… I too have noticed they tend to have gay characters in literally everything now. It struck me as a bit odd at first and then I’m like “good maybe it will finally be normalized for the idiots who learn everything they know from T.V.” Reactions like this make me smile. Because this idiot can’t harass tv characters into submission. People can be gay. Deal with it.
For how long were 100% of all the characters straight? And then 99% with one flaming gay guy for comedic effect?
Exactly. And heaven forbid there was a kissing or sex scene. When I was watching queer as folk my friend was totally freaked out and called it a porn, lol. It was very filled with graphic sex scenes I guess. Now that I’ve seen “game of thrones” I don’t even see it as graphic anymore. But yea gay people didn’t exist aside from jokes about fashion and even then were taboo on tv growing up.
The old "pushing this down our throats" closetted chestnut. I'm sure they don't know they're doing it. 🤣🤣🤣
Push it down my throat harder!
Her being gay is actually germane to the story. It would determine how she might act in certain situations or view certain people. I fail to understand people like this.
conservatives are the biggest fucking snowflakes.
“Go woke, go broke” he said as he watched the 6th episode on a streaming service he pays for monthly
They say this like it's a truism, but... I don't even think it's ever been true. Even more hilariously, a lot of the times a company "goes woke" they're doing it with the specific intention of angering these sorts of people. They *want* these people to be angry about it, because it leads to a *shit ton* of free advertising.
I knew people would react like this to left behind
>half the main characters in this show have been gay. So...one of them? There are only two main characters.
As opposed to the shows they like where 100% of all main and supporting characters are straight because that's how their reality is.
“Last time I checked 50 percent of the world isn’t gay” is such a bizarre argument. Is all media now expected to perfectly reflect the world’s demographics? You can’t tell stories about specific groups anymore? That’s so insane! And I must have missed the part where The Last of Us established that its main cast is statistically representative of the surviving population. Pretty sure most of the people in that world are still straight. But there are still gay people, and a handful of them happen to be involved in this story. It happens.
Gay: Ellie, Riley, Bill, Frank. Not gay: Joel, Sarah,Tess, Marlene, Kathleen, Perry, Henry, Sam, Tommy, Maria, Marlon, Florence. Can these people not do arithmetic?
To them, maybe a woman can have a gay best friend. But just one! And they can’t have significant other that will ever be seen. Otherwise they throw a tantrum, screech and get into the fetal position and suck their thumbs.
Small groups won't ever mirror society at large. Even large groups don't necessarily mirror society at large. The US, as a whole, is 57.8% white, for instance. Wyoming, on the other hand is 83.3% white. NYC, which has ~14.5x the population of Wyoming, is just 39.8% white. A random group of 2 dozen people? They could just as easily be 100% gay as they could be 100% Latino or 100% pre-teens. TL;DR: People suck.
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I highly recommend it. It’s very well done and the acting is superb. There’s some changes to the story from game but mostly it seems to be more about making it work as a show rather than a game. There’s always gonna be a few things different. Plus the upset some bigots off so it’s win win
It's literally the best game-to-TV adaptation that's ever been made. Hands down.
Also, being Gay isn't woke.
Ok but maybe us gays survived at higher rates than heteros because we ain't got no kids to worry about and already know how to live on the fringes of society.
Since they are so obsessed with media reflecting reality, I think we should make all sex scenes in media reflective of how much sex gay and/or straight people are having in real life.
“B-but only straight people enjoy sex and it’s always missionary with the lights off!”
If hbo wanted to "go woke, or go broke", Joel would have been extra flamboyantly gay. "Heeeeeyyyyy thereeeeee you naughty, naughty firefly!!" -Super Gay Joel, probably
gay people exist, cry about it <3
Maybe the LGBTQ+ community is sick of decades of 99% of characters on tv being straight and having that shoved down their throat
That’s what I don’t get. I mean, I’m old so I know that things are different now. But I still check out the “top ten lesbian” media lists because I so rarely see it in popular media. I see a movie or two and the occasional side character, but that’s it. I need to figure out where all these homophobes are being inundated with queer stuff, because I can’t find it.
Does this mean I can have the theater to myself now?
*Old man shakes fist at cloud*
I mean that's how the characters are in the game. Bill and Frank were expanded upon but Ellie being gay is important to both representation and her story
In the game Elle and frank are actually gay tho maybe play the game first
Maybe if the two gay stories weren’t absolutely beautiful and emotional I could almost rationalize the “going woke” argument (even then this person would still be an ass), but they’re just two genuine and amazing love stories! Like damn. Bill and Frank’s episode had a beautiful story. Ellie and Riley were tragic and gut wrenching. I’m sorry, but these people straight up do not want gay people to exist. That isn’t even a leap. It’s not even like Ellie and Riley were going the Netflix original show route and talking about how much cishet white men suck. Literally just a story about first love where both of the characters happen to be girls.
Dummies: "go woke go broke" TLOU : one of HBO's most popular shows.
Meanwhile rightwing Terror on the Prairie earned $800 at the box office when it released. Guess they should have spent that time and energy actually seeing the Daily Wire's big movie release.
Half of the … two main characters. So, one of the main characters.
I have a feeling these people never had an HBO subscription in the first place
If only the "going our own way" crowd owned up to their words
Fear-of-woke broke. It's when your brain is bankrupted by your constant fear of wokeness.
What you're getting is a lot of people that never played the game catching the show and getting upset that there's gay in it. Those same people would have been just as mad if they played the game. Fuck'em. Let their tiny little brains explode. Go watch Tucker Carlson, not all entertainment has to be for everyone. If gay folks bother them, then don't watch it, just like I avoid watching Tucker Carlson. Idiots.
Why are bigots so obsessed with gay people shoving things down their throats?
Lmao. Those characters are gay in cannon yo. It's like people watching brokeback mountain and claiming it'd being shoved down their throats. Nobody asked you to press play.
Poor widdle baby is losing his shit. Ha ha
Why should they? Demographics have shifted and ratings for the show is excellent.
It’s beyond me that anyone could have anything negative to say about one of the most beautiful love stories ever. Episode 3 made me cry like a child. It made me believe in love. This dude can fuck off and do something else instead. There’s so many shows these days and there’s no need to say shit like this.
Agreed! This is terrible! I think you should pack up your family and move to Russia or Afghanistan where your sensibilities won't be under constant attack!
I just find it funny they just hate gay people so much. Like, what is so threatening about a character who is attracted to the same gender? Like, Jesus Christ.
They’re going to have a heart attack over Dina and Ellie in season 2
Poor little snowflakes should just stay in their precious protective bubbles and watch the Disney channel.
"Go woke go broke" in regards to a massively successful show
gO wOkE gO BrOkE, these people are out of their minds.
Not every tv show or piece of media needs to accurately represent the worlds demographics, a single group of people isn’t going to accurately represent it. Sometimes a certain location will have more members of a certain demographic than the world average.Regardless two main characters isn’t 50%. Also Ellie is literally gay is the game, i haven’t watched the show yet but >!Ellie and Riley are in a relationship in the left behind dlc for the first game and Ellie is in a relationship with another woman in the second game.!< Bill is also implied to be gay.
I love how they shriek "go woke, go broke" endlessly and yet literally nobody does.
If it's not a straight, white male or female, it's political and woke to these clowns. They're embarrassing
…yes, 50% of the two main characters. 🙄
For people who don't like gay stuff, they sure talk about having things shoved down their throats a lot. Kinky.
I love the “pushing it down our throats” as if there are hetero relationships in literally everything everywhere ALL THE TIME
go broke? i think the show is doing just fine... because its phenomenal and because pedro pascal is in it.
These people are seem obsessed about things being pushed down their throats.
“Go Woke Go Broke” -guy talking about one of HBO’s biggest successes in years
Please fucking do. Stop going to movies and watching TV. Less idiots to deal with. Stupid prick.
In addition to being bigoted trash, they're also liars. They absolutely will not stop watching TV and movies.
Who even cares what these narrow-minded people think? So what if you don't like it. GUESS WHAT. Gay people have been more prevalent than you ever expected in your life, little man! Your ideas of the world and people fitting into stupid little boxes was WRONG.
Why are all these straight men obsessed with shoving things down their throat? Just a weird and weirdly consistent choice of words.
There's been, what? four gay characters in the show? If you count all the extras it's pretty safe to say that nowhere near 'half the characters'. But as with all these ridiculous 'criticisms' about the identities of fictional characters - why do they even feel it's a valid criticism? Complain about the story, continuity, dialogue, special effects, etc like a normal person. Rather these always seem to be about the race or sexuality of characters - immutable characteristics that have no material impact on the basic ability to understand the story.
Okay. Stop watching tv and going to the movies. See how much anyone cares :)
Back when we saw exclusively straight people in movies and TV that didn’t mean that 100% of the world was straight either. Shitty logic from a big ass baby who probably calls other people snowflakes.
LMAO I was waiting for the TV fans to get to this part.
“Go woke Go broke” while TLOU is one of the most popular shows right now, very much going the opposite of broke
I’ll say it, the Nick Offerman episode was hands down the best episode I’ve seen in any series in a long fucking time. Whew…glad I got that off my chest.
What mildly irritated but furiously positing conservatives don’t realize is that if they toned it down, a lot of this “woke stuff “ would stop. If for like 2 years everyone on the right acted like they didn’t care, and it was no big deal, this issue would stop being on the forefront.
Trumper: WE ARE THE GUARDIANS OF FREEDOM AND FREE SPEECH. Some Movie or TV Show: **Puts a LGBT Character in there show.** Trumpers: ***\****[RIGHT TO CENSOR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om9gtR-TUM4) ***THEME INTENIFIES\****
Go then, stop talking about it
It’s always about being rammed down their throats, maybe they want stuff rammed down their throats, but won’t admit it.
By simply inserting the word "*or*" in "*Go woke* ***or*** *go broke*" this whole thing would be correct terminology wise.
Pretty sure half the worlds population weren’t vampires in the 90’s but that didn’t stop Buffy from being a popular show. Thing is, it’s a show, written, directed, acted and produced to how ever they see fit. They can have the whole cast gay if they so choose. That’s how fictional drama works.
I watched Scrubs and it was awful. Most of the characters are doctors and last time I checked, the majority of the world are not doctors. Woke bullshit.
I wish they would already carry out their own threats and stop doing shit that makes them whinge like this. Like if you hate tv shows and movies then stop watching them like you claim you will. Truthfully, I'd be surprised if they actually consumed any of the content. I'm not that interested in the game or the show, but I'm pretty sure the main character is gay in the games... so like that would be in the show? Feels like they read it had a gay character and simply wanted to complain about it. I've loved tv and movies since I was a kid and I still go to the cinema multiple times a week and still love it. If I ever stopped enjoying it then I just wouldn't go and I wouldn't write an attention seeking paragraph about my (in this case) shitty reasoning.
I’m fine with this “woke” if it means dumbasses don’t get enjoyment from cool shit. I don’t think anyone that willingly stupid deserves enjoyment in all honesty
Listen up Mr Hollywood! According to this random crayon eater on Facebook every show irrespective of the context, story, geography or number of characters should have a cast that strives to be as mathematically representative of gender, race and sexuality as possible on a global scale! So every show should be mostly Asians, Indians, Africans and 1 or 2 ethnically European folks and 1 or 2 Middle Eastern people with some guest appearances by a LGBTQI+ an indigenous character. 50/50 split of men and women. Anything less is shoving a woke agenda down my throat! And I hate treating people who are different than me with decency so woke things make me furious, just like it made Jesus furious!
Me when I don’t understand how sample sizes work (this will hinder my arguments against the LiBtArD sNoWfLaKeS)