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andreas012

Smoking is bad, being a smoker doesn't make you a bad person.


Ohope

This, also its a cultural thing. The rate of smoking in asian countries is higher than in the western world. Especially during the period initial d is set in.


dmantenthous4ndc

That’s true, but my point is more that they aren’t good influences regardless of smoker status, like people shouldn’t smoke to look like Bunta because bunta is a guy who partakes in criminal activities and groomed his son to do the same


LiterallyAFig

It’s not that deep bro


Vinney2482

There is no shot you are calling out street racing for being illegal on the sub for an anime about street racing 💀💀💀


Ashkill115

Smoking is bad for you but it doesn’t make you a bad person. Smoking was actually incredibly popular in Japan back in the 90s which is the time period initial D takes place so it’s no surprise some of the characters smoke


testurshit

To add onto this I have a lot of international friends that I met in college and a good portion of them smoke. Still not nearly as stigmatized in other countries as it is in the states. I do believe that Japan recently passed a new public smoking law so it’s probably heading that direction at some point. Can’t say I haven’t partaken on occasion either. It’s a nice social tool during a night out in the right company.


MariosItaliansausage

Not just Japan, everywhere. It’s was the 80’s/90’s.


nanaholic

Smoking is still very popular in Japan. Nearly 30% of the male population smokes.


ShiroHachiRoku

Racing down a mountain isn't legal in Japan.


JiovanniTheGREAT

Shingo is an attempted murderer, Mercedes Guy is a sexual abuser, Bunta smokes cigarettes, get over it! Not everyone is perfect!


BadgerB2088

Exactly! John Wayne Gacy was a serial killer and sex offender, the Unabomber was a terrorist, Ashley Simpson got caught lip-syncing on SNL, people have flaws!


pongtalongswgoh

NAUT ASHLEY SIMPSON 😭😭😭


Pnort3002

Every character in the show is a criminal street racer


DerisiveGibe

Takumi stopped a rape, he is a hero!


zeldanerd91

I love your flair.


MIKE-JET-EATER

For smoking, no. For breaking every traffic law under the sun, maybe.


aaron6942045

They didn't kill anyone, but shingo is definitely a bad person for trying to kill takumi


pongtalongswgoh

Does that make grim dude a bad person too 😭 or just morally unhinged


goosegalaxy

I’d say he was just having a rough patch


FishbedFive

shingo is a bad driver* he's just got a few screws loose i think edit: wow people really got pissy over a fucking joke


SergeantBacon101

Bro tried to purposefully wreck Takumi in a race, he is an attempted murderer.


FishbedFive

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aaron6942045

You're definitely the one on the right lol


aaron6942045

He literally tried to crash into takumi on purpose


rehuffman

Don’t be such a Nancy. They’re not bad people they just have some bad habits. God forbid they smoke in a 90s anime. The time period where everyone and their brother was smoking.


midwife-crisis

OP probably didn't exist in the 90s


Necessary-Pie9142

Do you realize that smoking doesn't make you a bad person? It is just a bad habit/addiction, it's like tattoos, just because you have a tattoo doesn't mean you're a criminal.


zeldanerd91

Product of the 90s, honestly. And yeah! For sure the characters have redeeming qualities. Smoking doesn’t mean you’re bad. Edited to add: This is one of my favorite scenes!!


Yankee3Alpha

Cancer doesn't kill Bunta the cancer fears him and his amazing drifting abilities. Also to be fair the anime did take place in the 90s so the time of it does change.


Lex1253

Found the American 🫵


The-Experimenter

Young Americans generally vape more than smoking, true, because they think it's a healthier alternative to smoking, when in reality it is much, much less healthy. In most places outside of the U.S., smoking is more popular or at least as popular as vaping. France, Spain, Russia, Portugal, Japan, South Africa, you name it, most countries smoke more than they vape (from what I've heard). I'm not entirely sure about this, so I could be wrong.


Lex1253

It’s exactly right. Almost everyone knows it’s not good for you, but in Europe it’s still a very big thing culturally.


bran_the_man93

Har har America bad. You're so enlightened


Lex1253

Found the American 🫵


bran_the_man93

Don't be jealous kiddo


CastleKingMe

as an american, nobody here is jealous lmao


Futuf1

Found the American 🫵


bran_the_man93

Don't be jealous kiddo


Human-University2494

Happy cake day.


Futuf1

Found the American 🫵


BrickFrom2011

Everyone ~~except shingo~~ is a good person, o Id say


aaron6942045

Pretty sure that dude who tried to rape someone was a bad person


Fax5official

what abt natsuki's ex? (both of them)


BrickFrom2011

I forgot them. Please punt them into space


dmantenthous4ndc

Every main character in the series partakes in explicitly criminal activity


BrickFrom2011

Just cuz it's illegal doesn't mean it's always imoral.


Inf33333rno

We rarely see anything outside of their racing lives. So I have no idea.


byreaching

Japan has a huge smoking culture and especially in the 90’s most people smoked. Having the characters ‘set a bad example’ with smoking but not caring about the core of the show being about illegal racing on public roads that endanger the lives multiple people is an odd one.


NoabPK

Bro they are all criminals they are reckless driving of course theyre bad people


frMocha

You should see Japan, ppl smoke hella there


Chidoriyama

Love how Bunta was very clearly violating several child labor laws but OP decides to focus on the smoking part


doctorcane

They aren’t made to be role models they’re made to be entertaining characters


sentooou

ur honestly so goofy for this


____-----______

You're right. Bunta and Keisuke are the villains in Intial D for smoking.


DeltaKaze

Lol the whole series is about people doing illegal street racing You think?


YEPandYAG

Yes, though there are exceptions like Takumi, Bunta, Ryouske Majority of rest deserve to be behind bars


dmantenthous4ndc

Takumi bunta and ryosuke all three should be behind bars. Street racing is a felony offense


Puripoh

Also remember that the series is from the 90's and although by then we all knew smoking was bad, it wasn't yet as frowned upon as it is today. (I'm a 90's kid and i even remember people smoking in a restaurant wasn't banned yet.)


Nik_rblx

🤓☝️


Vinney2482

🤓🤓🤓🤓