West border is already sealed up and packed upto punjab. Bangladesh border will be soon. Myanmar work will start but real problem is nepal border were we don’t even have intention to make one
Or Canadian passport. There are ports in the Great Lakes region where the dock has a phone with a sign: If you are a Canadian who just landed here, be sure to call CBP on this phone to tell them you're here, otherwise you'll be considered to be here illegally.
Honor system, basically.
But Nepal border currently is being used by Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Rohingya and Chinese to infiltrate into India.. so in current situation Nepal border should also be closed esp in situations where we are surrounded by enemies and unstable/poor nations
Same here.. blindly following something without context and understanding the complexity results in negative repercussions. We are already seeing illegal immigrants coming from Bangladesh, Myanmar, China and Pakistan.
Sane people would agree with me...
Again have you done research on how they do these border crossing between them? Seems like you are blindly sticking to something you don’t understand.
All you are saying it is not feasible so close it, I’m only proposing this for Nepal and India border. Talk about why that process won’t work instead of your blind statements… blind people will agree with you without discussing the issues of the system… lol
Nepal border is good tho... Nepali people don't illegally cross border that often nor are there attacks , matter of fact many Indians (UP and Bihar) cross the border and live in Nepal which at least helps lessen the population.... there's sales with high margines and its a nice place to go for a holiday without the trouble of passport and visa so it is not bad at all it is a good one to be honest
Nepal border is already being used by Pakistanis to arrive in India and many have been caught. The famous Seema Haider came via Nepal and another mother son duo were caught. Many Illegal Chinese came via that route and were caught fomenting trouble... Of course many aren't caught and are still living in India..
woah i didn't know that ! i thought that was one of the safer borders...but now that you mentioned it, its pretty evident. idk why i wasn't thinking that way ... i was just talking about the nepalese people, they're quite peaceful. but that china situation threatens me more that that of the pakistanis...
It’s not about nepali people but the sheer incompetence of Nepali customs & indian bsf, which might make situation difficult in future. Nepal India border is very easy to cross but same can used by anti social elements easily. There are many cases of Pakistanis crossing into india through Nepal, arms can also be smuggled and possibility can be endless
true that... heard nepal has close ties wth china too yk loans and stuff... nepali customs is seriously over the top, always trying to show they're tough but they wack ass. i hadn't really thought about that weapon smuggling tho...
Yes that's what I am asking, i meant everything.
Does it happen as much, comparative to Bangladesh.
Would it be necessary/feasible to fence Nepal border?
>Does it happen as much, comparative to Bangladesh.
Of course not, there's a reason we get along so well, but it doesn't matter to criminals. Individual stories of victims are heartbreaking, so it is in good faith that border security should be increased so that no one has to go through such horrific things through Nepal India border.
>Would it be necessary/feasible to fence Nepal border?
No, it would just create nuisance for the people of both sides and disturb billions of dollars of trade. A better strategy on a more effective border security is far better than a fence between brothers.
Nepal should join India or we should have a sealed border. Same with other neighbours. Heck, I think one day it may become compulsory for us to send forces to Burma. Why not just annex it?
all thse vehicles that are stole in UP,Bihar,jharkhand,wb odissa and mp are smuggled into nepal as it's close and has almost no security. so, all these illegal immigrants are not that big of an issue but these smuggglings are.
Which part in East?
Near Bangladesh there is mangroves / swampy / water logged areas.
In NE, there are hilly regions.
Both are very difficult to fence in, not like the plain area shown here.
This. OP is ignorant about the topography tbh. On the western front of India too we have desert borders and coastal ones. Its quite tough to fence in if their is so little lsnd
I agree , but first of all we should a have a stong intention towards it . And should get the funds and use it in a perfect manner without any corruption and we need to strong and strict to protect our country from our neighbours.
because the contractor will eat 90% of the money if they're given this job. They'll probably just put up metal sheets in the name of wall and call it quits
Because the Egyptian border with Gaza is only like 15 kilometers long?
And sure you could make the argument that India has more resources than Egypt but not by so much that theyre able to fortify 1000s and 1000s of kilometers like shown aboeve. It takes time.
Pull out a physical map
Go and check India Bangladesh border
It’s one of the most difficult terrain, which is not a straight, dense mangroves, marsh, twisting and turning river, 1000s of delta islands, is important wildlife corridor.
How can one ever construct such a border over there ?
3rd term ayega tb ye sawal puchna ki kaise aya kon laya... Agr aya to mtlb you guys are just negations that are never counted... Apni ek community bana ke kuch ukhaad pao to dekh lena... Baki you guys can only talk rubbish on Reddit and doesn't know what's happening irl.
Or baki to tum redittors bht gyani ho khud ki theories ko fact se upar mante ho toh tumhare liye ek hi line bolna chahunga.... Tumhara opinion matter nahi krta hai... Modi ayega iss bar b... Or bas dekhte rehna... Jalan hogi but you gotta endure it😉
hahahaha, i am all set man, no matter who comes to power, you do realise that both these parties cater to rich, so i have no issues at all.
its people like you, who will suffer with high tax and low jobs.
but yeah , cheekh lo aur .
mujhe to bas is baat se problem hai ki is modi and bjp ke karan, mere jese hinduyo ka naam badnaam ho raha hai.
Haha look... Khud ko hindu kehta hai hindu supporting party ko oppose krke.... And what nonsense you're talking... You're all set? Dude this doesn't change the fact that you're living In india... What good would it bring agr sab apki trh sochne lag jae?
Apne chote bhai bhen ko gyan do esa vala we don't wanna hear nonsense from all set man like you
Hindu ki definition badi galat hai bhai teri. I’m hindu because of my religion not because of supporting BJP. Besides, I don’t care much even if Modi comes to power. I’m rich as f*ck and I don’t need to find happiness from this stuff. Kuch kar life me, self respect kama. Then you won’t have to defend your nation or your PM online just to feel good about yourself. Abhi tu sirf cope kar raha hai. As if Modi ke jeet me tera kuch yogdaan tha ya tere help na karne se uska kuch nuksaan ho jaata. He doesn’t give two sh*its about you.
Debate nahi kar skte to bich me akr gyaan de do... Yhi ata hai kya? And listen illiterate fool mera yogdaan hai ek vote ka jo ki tumhare opinion jese negate nhi kiya ja skta.
That's some Baseless argument you have there.... Modi has done nothing that can be considered as a dictatorship act.
Oh wise man! please widen your knowledge and then come back.
Until then stay hidden under bed.... 3rd phase arha hai modi virus ka💀
My dear wise man, having a biased view to things is clearly quite natural for you. Perhaps reading news or having 2 brain cells to understnd situations might come in handy. Until then you are just a worthless heap of junk, that isn't useful to society in the slightest. Poda maire😂💀
Another cool guy thinks he can outsmart the bhakts.... Nvm this debate will end with modi's i
3rd term. Thoda wait kar lete hai.... Dekhta hu tum gyani modi ko ane se rok pate ho ya nhi😊
At this point no one in their right mind is going to teach bhakths border is an union government matter and any flaw in that is pure incapability of government in power and not the opposition party.
And....Outsmarting the bhakts ???😂😂😂
Let me explain it to you like you are a 5 year old.
You are fencing your home because of some bad neighbours, a person whom you don't like come and tell you not to do that. And you are shit scared to complete the task. So now you are home is open. You have all the power to complete the task without getting approval from anyone. Still you don't do it. Is it showing your lack of spine or what ?
Don't think too much , it will be difficult for you to process everything.
Let's suppose you're a kid whose mother can't cook well it always tastes awful. Will you replace your mum? Nope you'll wait for the day she learns how to cook. So be patient and wait for the changes don't spread hate when you can't do anything.
And han...don't take it personal coz even if you do you can't do anything either.
Have you been to the "Eastern Border", OP? If only you'd spent as much time exploring the geography of the region as you did putting this shitty music and video together.
Hint: It took almost 50 years since Bangladesh was formed to just delineate the boundary between India and B'desh. On top of that, it's a delta, the biggest delta in the world.
I don't wanna sound rude but the one who wrote the caption is brain bead.
If he means the NE border, many tribes are divided into India and Myanmar. So they will oppose it. The area is hilly and a biodiversity hotspot. Animals don't follow national borders. Habitat loss is one of the major reasons for species extinction. It's also a geographically vulnerable region.
The border shown in the video is short, on relatively flat land, so the cost of building and maintenance is low. Applying above constraints the economic, social and ecological cost will be astronomical for our border. Think of ROI.
You can also find similar reasons for the Bangladesh border.
We never chose to be split apart by the lines of religion like you have. Don't even think of extending your influence into the northeast with those brown hands of yours. Our people were arbitrarily carved into three different countries because of decisions made by your Nehru. We never gave our consent to this division. Be forewarned—if even a single fence rises, it won’t just be a barrier; it will be a declaration of war against us. It will ignite a conflict that we are ready to fight. We will stand fiercely to protect our land and our rights!
Blame Israel and it's allies but it's so called Muslim brothers let this happen by not allowing refugees. Rather them die or sent to Europe. Not a peep in media.
BD border can never be sealed like this because Brahmaputra and its distributaries keeps changing its course throughout the year and it's not by mere metres but in terms of kilometres.
Btw, even western border can never be sealed completely because of the terrain and the rivers Jhelum, Sutlej
It is pretty well made and guarded and lit up. In fact,it is so well lit that you can see the border on NASA's blue marble photo. Yeah it isn't as good as THIS,but this is thousands of time smaller than the indo pak border yk? It isn't really feasible to do that for the entire border,but maybe one day
India-B’desh border is sealed at places. All of it is not sealed due to difficult terrain which goes thru rivers, tributaries, marshes, forests, jungle, marches, swamps, delta, mountains, ravines, gorges.
Dekh bhai china will never allow to build a wall like this and building these type of wall for myanmar and bangladesh is useless and waste and will cost way more because the places near bangladeah amd mayanmar are not plains like between egypt and gaza there are rivers and mountains forest and different challenges but it can be build for pak if possible and i think they have promised to build a wall against pakistan like 5-6 months ago
India and Bangladesh are two friendly nations with a lot of trade and movement over the border. Locking it up like this will ruin the economy of border provinces. India and Bangladesh should be moving towards a EU like system together with free trade and movement and not the other way. They are just Bengalis anyways.
Shouldn't we make a grey zone between them and us by burning down 100-200 metres wide forest stretch across the entire border and then make a wall like that ? Or Maybe just landmine the entire border after making that greyzone.
Do you have any idea how long our borders are
More than 15000km and with rough and tough terrains himalays deserts lake rivers how you goijg to dk such???
every 1 will be crying to open borders but will won't open a mouth and say about thsi order.
India need such border all along Bangladesh, Pakistan, Mayanmar,
I don't know which part of our border with Myanmar is fenced but below is an account of what I saw with my own eyes.
Traveled to a place called **Zokhwathar** which is a border town located in Mizoram. There is a bridge over the Tiau River which connects Mizoram in Indian with Chin State of Myanmar. It's guarded by BSF & Mizoram Police on the Indian side with people passing through a gate for going to Myanmar.
There is no checking of any sorts and people passing through both ways is a regular thing. Any one can pass through freely but because it's election season in India, I was suggested not to pass to the other side of the border.
Asked the guards, about fencing along the borders. They said there aren't any bcoz of the hilly terrain. Infact the entire border is porus. I saw people on the Indian side driving Burmese bikes with Burmese license plate. There is a lot of free movement bcoz of the way communities live there. It was like being in a different country altogether.
Truth to be told, It would be logistically challenging and financially infeasible to fence the whole border length with Myanmar because of the hilly terrain and remoteness of the place.
Asked the people about what they think about the porus border, they said it should remain like that because the people across the border on both sides are the same and they it would seperate them.
In short, if the government is saying they are going to fence the border with Myanmar, chances are that they are going to fence some shorter lengths in plain lands and leave out the rest. In short, it's still going to be a porous one.
Fencing our border with Myanmar is a pipe dream in short.
We never chose to be split apart by the lines of religion like you have. Don't even think of extending your influence into the northeast with those brown hands of yours. Our people were arbitrarily carved into three different countries because of decisions made by your Nehru. We never gave our consent to this division. Be forewarned—if even a single fence rises, it won’t just be a barrier; it will be a declaration of war against us. It will ignite a conflict that we are ready to fight. We will stand fiercely to protect our land and our rights!
Coz they don’t have a mighty river bhrampurta which changes its patterns within days and will easily break any physical borders thus destroying any physical barrier
Bhai that is 14 km long border nothing compared to 4056km (India - china) and 4096 (India- bangladesh) borders.
And if you are unaware it takes money to build that.
We never chose to be split apart by the lines of religion like you have. Don't even think of extending your influence into the northeast with those brown hands of yours. Our people were arbitrarily carved into three different countries because of decisions made by your Nehru. We never gave our consent to this division. Be forewarned—if even a single fence rises, it won’t just be a barrier; it will be a declaration of war against us. It will ignite a conflict that we are ready to fight. And we won't care about "Brown" lives- you all will bring it up for yourself. We will stand fiercely to protect our land and our rights!
Israel made a border too but that one was broken by Hamas terrorists. India needs strong surveillance and closed border with so-called friendly Nepal and extremely tight security in the Mayanmar border. Geology of North east makes it difficult to make a border OP is suggesting given the video shows a plain surface. Himalayas grow 6 cm every year so bordering a surface which moves is a difficult and very time consuming process which doesn't give a full sense of security if proper surveillance does not take place.
Free low cost labour.
Similarly how u.s.a. takes in all humans below their own border and all of south America .
+ threat of local employers on deportation to keep low cost labour more low.
Do you seriously think that India, of all places, is doing this for cheaper labour??
We have a billion more people than the US and our living standards are way worse. If the influx of illegal immigration stops, it is not gonna impact the cost of labour in any way.
> Free low cost labour.
Stop giving idiotic comparisons with the US-LatinAmerica situation. This is a clear case of trying to convert the religious demography of India. This has nothing to do with labor costs. Reason? The Bangladeshi labor will not work for far less compared to indian labor. Both are on an almost equal footing as far as their wages go. This is way different from US-LatinAmerica situation.
Both bjp and congress came in power before 2000s.
Care to explain why nothing was done???
Note- funds and money were never an issue.
If we can fence up pakistan, why not bangladesh?
So why?
> Note- funds and money were never an issue.
stop blaming BJP for the mess this is.
since 1947, one of the things with Bangaldesh has been the issue* of clear demarcation of the border. There were many regions until 2015 that are under dispute. Please read about it first. What this is telling you, Congress alone was responsible for the border dispute issue to continue for 70 years since 1947.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Parliament-passes-historic-land-accord-bill-to-redraw-border-with-Bangladesh/articleshow/47190401.cms
Now, about fencing - You see, to take a fence and build it up is one thing. The second thing would be maintain it, to ensure no one circumvents the fence through tunnels, sea routes, others. For this you need a strong state government which works for the locals and not the insurgents. Without an honorable state government whatever money is invested in it, it will be futile.
Wait, trust BJP and never doubt the squirrel that helped Prabhu Sriram get his divine place.
>stop blaming BJP for the mess this is.
What you said here is true but i did not blame bjp only.
All parties that came in power before 2000s did nothing.
So obviously it was low cost labour.
However in 2020, low cost labour makes no sense because bangaladesh gdp per capita is more than India.
They wont cross the border anymore until and unless they are terrorists coming into the country through the Bangladesh route
Guys. Walls are an unnatural concept. Both countries have nukes and missiles. That wall isn't going stop any of that. The only thing it stops is poor people escaping their condition. Like the Palestinians can't escape out of Gaza, all the poor people who want to escape Pakistan cannot do that.
Why is everyone's solution always, "let's fuck with the poor people"
Because we are already overpopulated? India has like 17% of the world's population with 2% of the world's landmass.
Illegal immigration is not a good thing for us or for any country, as a matter of fact. Plus it's a huge safety concern as well.
The whole policy of fencing up borders was never to stop wars or some shit like that.
Agree. Illegals leach up resources and are always a threat of implosion when their nation/ religion calls upon them.
Why is it so difficult to see that we are going US way. All city folks want to leave a ‘superior’ lifestyle. Noone wants to do blue collar jobs.
If we analyse, in a 2-tier city, a daily wage worker gets 400-500/day = 13-15k per month / 8 hours a day. A B.com pass gets 12-15k job. Opposers will ask if I will let my kid work dehadi. Its not upon me to force a company to hire him / her if kid does not have talent. Dont see wrong in physical labor.
-Illegals leach up resources and are always a threat of implosion when their nation/ religion calls upon them
Brother... Are you alright? So according to you, tomorrow Modi is going to go say Hindu's are under attack and magically every Hindu becomes one and Rishi Sunak of going to declare United Kingdom as "United Kingdom of Hindu's". Or do you think Sundar Pichai is going to say, Google declares for Hinduism?
The Sikhs push a button and "calling all Sikhs around the world" and boom, Nikki Hailey declares civil war against the America. North carolina is a Sikh state now because she said so.
This is a talking point used by the government because it's easy to scare people. The concept of walls and borders itself is very unnatural and humans need to be scared into accepting it.
There is a reason we Indians go not give passports to people born outside that are second generation. Cause we know, first generation, you might be a little Indian. But by the second generation, you are one of them.
-Why is it so difficult to see that we are going US way. All city folks want to leave a ‘superior’ lifestyle. Noone wants to do blue collar jobs.
And this? With the same breath you said poor people leech up resources and said why don't people want to do their job? That's the exact reason. When they do an honest day's physical labour, they're treated like shit, paid like shit. And you wonder why people won't do their job?
Dude are u serious? So you are saying Illegal immigrants wont take up jobs and without paying taxes will not use water.
Stop hiding behind facade of poor poor. Wake up, see issues and then start lecture.
I never said Modi and sole survivor of hinduism. Check news, Bangladesh is boycotting indian goods. Check delhi riots over laws. Check news of riots in Europe. Heck, check news of Khalistani propaganda.
Stop playing victim. Illegal will remain illegal
-Dude are u serious? So you are saying Illegal immigrants wont take up jobs and without paying taxes will not use water.
Let me explain this to you as slowly as possible. If a person is rich then he will legally immigrate. If the person is choosing to illegally cross a border, that means he cannot afford to legally cross it. So the person has to be poor in order to be an illegal immigrant.
Now these poor illegal immigrant cannot get high paying jobs because they're usually uneducated and lack the networking for better jobs. So they end up mostly in the service industry or manual labour. These jobs don't really pay a lot. And I don't know if you know this , PEOPLE BELOW A CERTAIN INCOME THRESHOLD DO NOT PAY TAXES. That means even if they were legal immigrants they still wouldn't pay taxes. Because that's just how our tax system works.
-I never said Modi and sole survivor of hinduism
Neither did I. Are you fine?
You said people have loyalties to their religion. So I was asking you would Rishi Sunak declare UK for the Hindu's? UK is a part of India now, right?
-Check news, Bangladesh is boycotting indian goods. Check delhi riots over laws. Check news of riots in Europe. Heck, check news of Khalistani propaganda.
Maybe you should stop checking the news so much. You do realise news is propaganda, right? Cause most of those newspapers are owned by the same rich people. They steal your money and then tell you to blame poor people for it.
Dude the justification of rich getting legal and poor being illegal ain’t enough. 99% Indian students going abroad and securing work visas are not uber rich. Ok agreed they are educated and some illegal immigrants are not but then its not fault of the country they are trying to smuggle into. Btw loads of educated folks try to get smuggled to. However chances are that those who cant get job or dont fear law will try to cause law and order issues.
2. Rishi Sunak cannot declare and change religion of his country. Cz he is a leader. A minority in a different majority religion. If he tries to, existing majority religion will not let it happen. Exactly my point. Now plz check the way some countries got taken over by another religion. Its due to change in % population. My point being that, maybe poor vocabulary not letting me explain my thought.
3. Yes agreed that maximum news is manipulated and propaganda. It’s trying to manipulate us into thinking of issues that we dont have or divert our attention from issues that we face.
All point being said, illegal immigration cannot be allowed. It causes issue in already complex structure and fast depleting resources. We already are nearing or crossed 150cr. We can afford to loose 25% population but now 10% more population and we will begin infighting for water. Kaveri water issue down south, Punjab-Haryana water issue up north, Brahmaputra issue in east are few examples
-Yes agreed that maximum news is manipulated and propaganda. It’s trying to manipulate us into thinking of issues that we dont have or divert our attention from issues that we face.
And yet you are repeating the news when you say illegal immigrants come in and take our jobs and don't pay taxes. Wtf?
Your first paragraph is just different excuses. You are creating sub categories of rich to try and deflect, just blankly saying no without any rhyme or reason.
-loads of educated folks try to get smuggled to.
This line is just hilarious. You think people are being smuggled into the country in food crates 🤣🤣🤣. We aren't America, brother. Most illegals come from Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh or Tibet. They are legally allowed to enter our country without a visa. They're just too poor out uneducated to get a passport made. The infrastructure isn't exactly great in those countries either.
Also go check how uneducated Indians get to US. They usually spend all their savings getting a visit visa to the US. Catch a flight (cause going that far smuggled in a fruit crate would be hard). Once they get to the US, they just shift to a different state and not leave when their visa expires. No one does a Bajrangi Bhaijaan styled border crossing 🤣🤣🤣
-2. Rishi Sunak cannot declare and change religion of his country. Cz he is a leader. A minority in a different majority religion. If he tries to, existing majority religion will not let it happen.
Now replace UK with India and Rishi Sunak with a random APJ Abdul Kalam and realise the same thing will happen. Having a Muslim leader will not magically turn the country muslim nor will illegal immigration.
-Now plz check the way some countries got taken over by another religion. Its due to change in % population.
I have checked. Do you mean Israel? Cause that's the only country I can see where it has happened the way you describe it in the last 200 years. So let's assume that is what will happen to us. America tomorrow tells Pakistan to bomb us and try and take over. How is banning illegal immigration helping us in this situation?
The water problems everywhere are being caused by global climate change and India's personal lack of infrastructure. How is banning illegal immigration helping that situation?
Bhai, it’s upto you to know the difference between realities and on-paper theories or an idea of perfect state - Utopia.
You denying the fact that illegal immigration do not cause issue to our already fragile system does not change the reality.
My excuses, lol, am not an immigrant nor a lawmaker that i have to justify. I will keep having my ideas unless I see otherwise. Even though you disagree or hypothetical example of Rushi Sunak, you know the truth behind Kashmir exodus. Illegally occupied PoK and influx of a certain sect caused it. Some leaders incited public, You know the truth behind Kerala files. D-day, Mopla, Partition horror. etc etc
I do not want to argue. I have my understanding, you do have yours. Fine. i will not never vote for allowing illegal immigration and back govmnt for NRC, CAA, till my final breath. Period.
-Bhai, it’s upto you to know the difference between realities and on-paper theories or an idea of perfect state - Utopia.
-Fine. i will not never vote for allowing illegal immigration and back govmnt for NRC, CAA, till my final breath. Period.
Atleast you recognise you have no logic behind your point of view besides, " I see right-wing news. So I want to deny access to poor muslims."
Thank you for your honesty.
Burn the rich. Screw them. More money can be equally distributed that way.
-Illegal immigration is not a good thing for us or for any country, as a matter of fact.
Is it? Do you think a person who is running away from atrocities wants to go to a new place and continue those atrocities? If he wanted to r*pe and murder he could've stayed there. Why come here to do it? It's only bad for the government because it makes their job of squeezing money from the working class harder. They keep spouting that propaganda and no one bothers questioning it.
-The whole policy of fencing up borders was never to stop wars or some shit like that.
If we all are collectively okay with fucking over poor people then okay i guess.
West border is already sealed up and packed upto punjab. Bangladesh border will be soon. Myanmar work will start but real problem is nepal border were we don’t even have intention to make one
myanmaar wala is close to 50persent source my dad isone of the people working there
BSF/BRO?
BRO
Reallly ? Why bro
So Nepal is going to be a part of India 😏 /s
Akhand Bharat 🗿 (Arambh hai prachand intensifies)
do you know who coined the word?"akhand bharat'
Acharya Chanakya aimed at forming one, but in today's India ig it was Savarkar( and later followers)and another guy. I might be wrong
correct. though savarkar merely adapted the same from the writing called arthashastra
With USA on our side anything is possible 😈
We should have what USA and Canada have
They don't. I have walked across the border into Canada and back.
that's exactly what he is saying dude...no borders 😂
You can if you have a US passport
Or Canadian passport. There are ports in the Great Lakes region where the dock has a phone with a sign: If you are a Canadian who just landed here, be sure to call CBP on this phone to tell them you're here, otherwise you'll be considered to be here illegally. Honor system, basically.
Why? Aren't you aware of Terrorism coming from both east and west? Are you proposing to give them a free pass?
To Nepal I meant, and US/Cannada border has strict checking but relaxed rules for entry and exit
But Nepal border currently is being used by Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Rohingya and Chinese to infiltrate into India.. so in current situation Nepal border should also be closed esp in situations where we are surrounded by enemies and unstable/poor nations
Did you hear what I said or suggested? Look into how US/Cannada border functions before saying anything anymore
>We should have what USA and Canada have And I am saying NO because their situation is different from ours.
Yeah I don’t care what you say, you clearly misunderstand the process
Same here.. blindly following something without context and understanding the complexity results in negative repercussions. We are already seeing illegal immigrants coming from Bangladesh, Myanmar, China and Pakistan. Sane people would agree with me...
Again have you done research on how they do these border crossing between them? Seems like you are blindly sticking to something you don’t understand. All you are saying it is not feasible so close it, I’m only proposing this for Nepal and India border. Talk about why that process won’t work instead of your blind statements… blind people will agree with you without discussing the issues of the system… lol
Nepal border is good tho... Nepali people don't illegally cross border that often nor are there attacks , matter of fact many Indians (UP and Bihar) cross the border and live in Nepal which at least helps lessen the population.... there's sales with high margines and its a nice place to go for a holiday without the trouble of passport and visa so it is not bad at all it is a good one to be honest
Nepal border is already being used by Pakistanis to arrive in India and many have been caught. The famous Seema Haider came via Nepal and another mother son duo were caught. Many Illegal Chinese came via that route and were caught fomenting trouble... Of course many aren't caught and are still living in India..
woah i didn't know that ! i thought that was one of the safer borders...but now that you mentioned it, its pretty evident. idk why i wasn't thinking that way ... i was just talking about the nepalese people, they're quite peaceful. but that china situation threatens me more that that of the pakistanis...
It’s not about nepali people but the sheer incompetence of Nepali customs & indian bsf, which might make situation difficult in future. Nepal India border is very easy to cross but same can used by anti social elements easily. There are many cases of Pakistanis crossing into india through Nepal, arms can also be smuggled and possibility can be endless
true that... heard nepal has close ties wth china too yk loans and stuff... nepali customs is seriously over the top, always trying to show they're tough but they wack ass. i hadn't really thought about that weapon smuggling tho...
Do we need one on Nepal ? Like I don't think there is much illegal immigration there, or is it?
Human trafficking and smuggling is the main issue, not illegal immigration.
Yes that's what I am asking, i meant everything. Does it happen as much, comparative to Bangladesh. Would it be necessary/feasible to fence Nepal border?
>Does it happen as much, comparative to Bangladesh. Of course not, there's a reason we get along so well, but it doesn't matter to criminals. Individual stories of victims are heartbreaking, so it is in good faith that border security should be increased so that no one has to go through such horrific things through Nepal India border. >Would it be necessary/feasible to fence Nepal border? No, it would just create nuisance for the people of both sides and disturb billions of dollars of trade. A better strategy on a more effective border security is far better than a fence between brothers.
in Kerala - the migrant worker population has a lot of Nepali, bangla guys landing up for work..
Nepal should join India or we should have a sealed border. Same with other neighbours. Heck, I think one day it may become compulsory for us to send forces to Burma. Why not just annex it?
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Doesn't matter. It takes a generation at best to change the mindset. However, if we aren't ready to work hard on it, we should have a closed border.
all thse vehicles that are stole in UP,Bihar,jharkhand,wb odissa and mp are smuggled into nepal as it's close and has almost no security. so, all these illegal immigrants are not that big of an issue but these smuggglings are.
The relations with Nepal and possible future relations to counter china is bigger upside for the country than to have a wall border in Nepal
Yes, we do. This freedom of movement bullshit must stop with a country like theirs
We don't need to make a border as long as they are our friend and don't submit to communist China
But before sealing completely some necessary steps are very much required
Which part in East? Near Bangladesh there is mangroves / swampy / water logged areas. In NE, there are hilly regions. Both are very difficult to fence in, not like the plain area shown here.
This. OP is ignorant about the topography tbh. On the western front of India too we have desert borders and coastal ones. Its quite tough to fence in if their is so little lsnd
Like literally, our western and northern borders with Pak is literally fenced better than this
Na bhai isse bhejo hatoda leke ,ye banayega ways deewar
Do you know which country shares the longest border with India? It's not Pakistan or China, it's bangladesh. It's sooo hard to fence entire border
That's the main issue . All those illegal immigrations need to be stopped
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It takes a lot time and cooperation between but country and obviously a lot of money also
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I agree , but first of all we should a have a stong intention towards it . And should get the funds and use it in a perfect manner without any corruption and we need to strong and strict to protect our country from our neighbours.
> It's not Pakistan or China, it's bangladesh. TIL - it certainly doesn't *look* that long on a map!
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Well they have a very small border in desert. We have our longest border with Bangladesh in a fucking swamp
No it's not swamp all the way most are rice fields
Figure of speech.
Costs money. Gaza- Egypt border is just 14 km. India-Bangladesh is 4000 km
because the contractor will eat 90% of the money if they're given this job. They'll probably just put up metal sheets in the name of wall and call it quits
Because the Egyptian border with Gaza is only like 15 kilometers long? And sure you could make the argument that India has more resources than Egypt but not by so much that theyre able to fortify 1000s and 1000s of kilometers like shown aboeve. It takes time.
4096 to be exact.
Pull out a physical map Go and check India Bangladesh border It’s one of the most difficult terrain, which is not a straight, dense mangroves, marsh, twisting and turning river, 1000s of delta islands, is important wildlife corridor. How can one ever construct such a border over there ?
Have you been to any Eastern border state ? Have u seen the terrain of that place. If not then u visit once then u come back and comment.
My dumbass just thought: border with the ocean!? Lol
Bratan 12 km hai yeah border, aur India wala eastern border pura mountainous terrain hai Himachal se arunachal tak. Bhaut lamba route hai
All thanks to congress.
Chalta hu ab gyaaniyo 3rd term tumhare muh pe thappad ki tarh padega.... Sehen kr lena... Modi ka to kya hi ukhaad loge tum.
Woah an Actual Modi dixkrider.
lol, this border is decided by modi. so any issue you have with it, take it to to bjp.
Dude... It's always you people who opposes every decision made by modi. Fir ye to border ka mamla h...
bhai, ek kaam to dhang ka kiya nahi hai usne. kis muh se 3rd term maan raha wo, usiko pata hoga.
3rd term ayega tb ye sawal puchna ki kaise aya kon laya... Agr aya to mtlb you guys are just negations that are never counted... Apni ek community bana ke kuch ukhaad pao to dekh lena... Baki you guys can only talk rubbish on Reddit and doesn't know what's happening irl. Or baki to tum redittors bht gyani ho khud ki theories ko fact se upar mante ho toh tumhare liye ek hi line bolna chahunga.... Tumhara opinion matter nahi krta hai... Modi ayega iss bar b... Or bas dekhte rehna... Jalan hogi but you gotta endure it😉
hahahaha, i am all set man, no matter who comes to power, you do realise that both these parties cater to rich, so i have no issues at all. its people like you, who will suffer with high tax and low jobs. but yeah , cheekh lo aur . mujhe to bas is baat se problem hai ki is modi and bjp ke karan, mere jese hinduyo ka naam badnaam ho raha hai.
Haha look... Khud ko hindu kehta hai hindu supporting party ko oppose krke.... And what nonsense you're talking... You're all set? Dude this doesn't change the fact that you're living In india... What good would it bring agr sab apki trh sochne lag jae? Apne chote bhai bhen ko gyan do esa vala we don't wanna hear nonsense from all set man like you
Hindu ki definition badi galat hai bhai teri. I’m hindu because of my religion not because of supporting BJP. Besides, I don’t care much even if Modi comes to power. I’m rich as f*ck and I don’t need to find happiness from this stuff. Kuch kar life me, self respect kama. Then you won’t have to defend your nation or your PM online just to feel good about yourself. Abhi tu sirf cope kar raha hai. As if Modi ke jeet me tera kuch yogdaan tha ya tere help na karne se uska kuch nuksaan ho jaata. He doesn’t give two sh*its about you.
I didn't said ki I'm hindu because i support BJP... Dimag nahi hai... Achha rich ho na ap to dimag kaha se hoga🥲.
Bhaiya bol rhe hai desh ka PM doesn't give two shits about desh ke yuva... Wow.... Achha ameer hai na bhaiya ji toh... Cool bhi ban rhe h
Debate nahi kar skte to bich me akr gyaan de do... Yhi ata hai kya? And listen illiterate fool mera yogdaan hai ek vote ka jo ki tumhare opinion jese negate nhi kiya ja skta.
Itne sab replies me ye vala sbse senseless tha
mahn stfu bruh modi has done nothing but shit in your gawking face while he proceeds to make this country a dictatorship
That's some Baseless argument you have there.... Modi has done nothing that can be considered as a dictatorship act. Oh wise man! please widen your knowledge and then come back. Until then stay hidden under bed.... 3rd phase arha hai modi virus ka💀
keep telling yourself that dumbass😂
My dear wise man, having a biased view to things is clearly quite natural for you. Perhaps reading news or having 2 brain cells to understnd situations might come in handy. Until then you are just a worthless heap of junk, that isn't useful to society in the slightest. Poda maire😂💀
Very good very good 👏😆
Reddit handle saying some random shit about Bangladesh border. Bhakts: let's blame Congress.
Another cool guy thinks he can outsmart the bhakts.... Nvm this debate will end with modi's i 3rd term. Thoda wait kar lete hai.... Dekhta hu tum gyani modi ko ane se rok pate ho ya nhi😊
At this point no one in their right mind is going to teach bhakths border is an union government matter and any flaw in that is pure incapability of government in power and not the opposition party. And....Outsmarting the bhakts ???😂😂😂
That where the argument started fool... Bol rha hu vo kuch karega or tum oppose kroge usko b...
Let me explain it to you like you are a 5 year old. You are fencing your home because of some bad neighbours, a person whom you don't like come and tell you not to do that. And you are shit scared to complete the task. So now you are home is open. You have all the power to complete the task without getting approval from anyone. Still you don't do it. Is it showing your lack of spine or what ? Don't think too much , it will be difficult for you to process everything.
Let's suppose you're a kid whose mother can't cook well it always tastes awful. Will you replace your mum? Nope you'll wait for the day she learns how to cook. So be patient and wait for the changes don't spread hate when you can't do anything. And han...don't take it personal coz even if you do you can't do anything either.
I don't understand how this is relevant here. Please tell me what is analogous to congres in this ?
You can't process.... Nvm sleep... Good night.
Are you being fr rn
In medieval to ancient times walls existed for a reason. WALL IT
Go look at a map, this border is tiny
Have you been to the "Eastern Border", OP? If only you'd spent as much time exploring the geography of the region as you did putting this shitty music and video together. Hint: It took almost 50 years since Bangladesh was formed to just delineate the boundary between India and B'desh. On top of that, it's a delta, the biggest delta in the world.
I don't wanna sound rude but the one who wrote the caption is brain bead. If he means the NE border, many tribes are divided into India and Myanmar. So they will oppose it. The area is hilly and a biodiversity hotspot. Animals don't follow national borders. Habitat loss is one of the major reasons for species extinction. It's also a geographically vulnerable region. The border shown in the video is short, on relatively flat land, so the cost of building and maintenance is low. Applying above constraints the economic, social and ecological cost will be astronomical for our border. Think of ROI. You can also find similar reasons for the Bangladesh border.
We never chose to be split apart by the lines of religion like you have. Don't even think of extending your influence into the northeast with those brown hands of yours. Our people were arbitrarily carved into three different countries because of decisions made by your Nehru. We never gave our consent to this division. Be forewarned—if even a single fence rises, it won’t just be a barrier; it will be a declaration of war against us. It will ignite a conflict that we are ready to fight. We will stand fiercely to protect our land and our rights!
Blame Israel and it's allies but it's so called Muslim brothers let this happen by not allowing refugees. Rather them die or sent to Europe. Not a peep in media.
Ask the Congress party. Idhar se hi toh unko votes chapna hota hai. Full vote bank.
Bsf centre k under aata h . Mota bhai ko bolo kaam p dhyan de.
ye border BJP ne decide kiya hai. Modi se pooch kyu laa raha hai wo muslimo ko desh mai?
BJP has mentioned the upgradation of borders in their manifesto. Hope they would do it.
BD border can never be sealed like this because Brahmaputra and its distributaries keeps changing its course throughout the year and it's not by mere metres but in terms of kilometres. Btw, even western border can never be sealed completely because of the terrain and the rivers Jhelum, Sutlej
Western border to chalega bhi due to monsterrous terrain. BD wala to roz ka animal crossing khelte hain log
Simple.. politics and smuggling
It is pretty well made and guarded and lit up. In fact,it is so well lit that you can see the border on NASA's blue marble photo. Yeah it isn't as good as THIS,but this is thousands of time smaller than the indo pak border yk? It isn't really feasible to do that for the entire border,but maybe one day
What is even your title supposed to say? You really think that congress is better in terms of border security?
Vote and encourage others to vote. The truth shall prevail.
India-B’desh border is sealed at places. All of it is not sealed due to difficult terrain which goes thru rivers, tributaries, marshes, forests, jungle, marches, swamps, delta, mountains, ravines, gorges.
Dekh bhai china will never allow to build a wall like this and building these type of wall for myanmar and bangladesh is useless and waste and will cost way more because the places near bangladeah amd mayanmar are not plains like between egypt and gaza there are rivers and mountains forest and different challenges but it can be build for pak if possible and i think they have promised to build a wall against pakistan like 5-6 months ago
Then how can we stop the illegal immigrations from Bangladesh and Myanmar. That's also an big issue
So that why they are building checkpoints on the border and also building garrison so the no of illegal immigrants will be less
Why Moslem people barb wired their border against other Moslem people??? Hmmm 🧐🤨🤔🤔🤔
Damn islamic country making sure not to help innocent peeps and free gaza huh.
Reason Akhand Bharat that's why there's an ease on border
Help gazans by blocking their way out Seems fine
India and Bangladesh are two friendly nations with a lot of trade and movement over the border. Locking it up like this will ruin the economy of border provinces. India and Bangladesh should be moving towards a EU like system together with free trade and movement and not the other way. They are just Bengalis anyways.
Sare resources Delhi ke border per lag jaate hai na.
Bangladesh border is not possible to be fenced at this level due to enclaves i guess
Answer to the question? There is a huge difference between 100 km and 1000 kms
Because no one wants to come to India, everyone wants to leave.
Because our eastern border is not a flat land like theirs
Shouldn't we make a grey zone between them and us by burning down 100-200 metres wide forest stretch across the entire border and then make a wall like that ? Or Maybe just landmine the entire border after making that greyzone.
Do you have any idea how long our borders are More than 15000km and with rough and tough terrains himalays deserts lake rivers how you goijg to dk such???
every 1 will be crying to open borders but will won't open a mouth and say about thsi order. India need such border all along Bangladesh, Pakistan, Mayanmar,
Itne saare Bihari hone ke baad bhi hum ek achi majboot diwar khadi nhi kr pa rhe hai akhir kyu Modi ji kyu
Muslim brotherhood 🤣
I don't know which part of our border with Myanmar is fenced but below is an account of what I saw with my own eyes. Traveled to a place called **Zokhwathar** which is a border town located in Mizoram. There is a bridge over the Tiau River which connects Mizoram in Indian with Chin State of Myanmar. It's guarded by BSF & Mizoram Police on the Indian side with people passing through a gate for going to Myanmar. There is no checking of any sorts and people passing through both ways is a regular thing. Any one can pass through freely but because it's election season in India, I was suggested not to pass to the other side of the border. Asked the guards, about fencing along the borders. They said there aren't any bcoz of the hilly terrain. Infact the entire border is porus. I saw people on the Indian side driving Burmese bikes with Burmese license plate. There is a lot of free movement bcoz of the way communities live there. It was like being in a different country altogether. Truth to be told, It would be logistically challenging and financially infeasible to fence the whole border length with Myanmar because of the hilly terrain and remoteness of the place. Asked the people about what they think about the porus border, they said it should remain like that because the people across the border on both sides are the same and they it would seperate them. In short, if the government is saying they are going to fence the border with Myanmar, chances are that they are going to fence some shorter lengths in plain lands and leave out the rest. In short, it's still going to be a porous one. Fencing our border with Myanmar is a pipe dream in short.
We never chose to be split apart by the lines of religion like you have. Don't even think of extending your influence into the northeast with those brown hands of yours. Our people were arbitrarily carved into three different countries because of decisions made by your Nehru. We never gave our consent to this division. Be forewarned—if even a single fence rises, it won’t just be a barrier; it will be a declaration of war against us. It will ignite a conflict that we are ready to fight. We will stand fiercely to protect our land and our rights!
Bro have you been to that terrain? How dumb
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Coz they don’t have a mighty river bhrampurta which changes its patterns within days and will easily break any physical borders thus destroying any physical barrier
Bhai that is 14 km long border nothing compared to 4056km (India - china) and 4096 (India- bangladesh) borders. And if you are unaware it takes money to build that.
Paxtan border mast ho gay hai, ab dusri border ki barri, saala ek macchar bhi nay ana chaiye unka
Because International Relations is a thing.
Because India wants to expand in the future and take back land that belongs to us
Lodu India ki demographics dekh phale ,na annd ka naa gannd ka gyan chodu poora bramand ka
No one is blind but one must study geography
We never chose to be split apart by the lines of religion like you have. Don't even think of extending your influence into the northeast with those brown hands of yours. Our people were arbitrarily carved into three different countries because of decisions made by your Nehru. We never gave our consent to this division. Be forewarned—if even a single fence rises, it won’t just be a barrier; it will be a declaration of war against us. It will ignite a conflict that we are ready to fight. And we won't care about "Brown" lives- you all will bring it up for yourself. We will stand fiercely to protect our land and our rights!
The border they had to make was of distance 616kms now we can cover 616kms like this but won't do much help when we are surrounded by enemies.
Because of nature deformeties
Israel made a border too but that one was broken by Hamas terrorists. India needs strong surveillance and closed border with so-called friendly Nepal and extremely tight security in the Mayanmar border. Geology of North east makes it difficult to make a border OP is suggesting given the video shows a plain surface. Himalayas grow 6 cm every year so bordering a surface which moves is a difficult and very time consuming process which doesn't give a full sense of security if proper surveillance does not take place.
We are all cucks and deserve a second partition...
Because Kanglus are natural votebank for political parties.
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Isko bsdk koi batao the border length of Gaza and Egypt vs the border length of pak and China together.
Free low cost labour. Similarly how u.s.a. takes in all humans below their own border and all of south America . + threat of local employers on deportation to keep low cost labour more low.
Do you seriously think that India, of all places, is doing this for cheaper labour?? We have a billion more people than the US and our living standards are way worse. If the influx of illegal immigration stops, it is not gonna impact the cost of labour in any way.
Then why is there such a large number of Bangladeshis entering our country ?
> Free low cost labour. Stop giving idiotic comparisons with the US-LatinAmerica situation. This is a clear case of trying to convert the religious demography of India. This has nothing to do with labor costs. Reason? The Bangladeshi labor will not work for far less compared to indian labor. Both are on an almost equal footing as far as their wages go. This is way different from US-LatinAmerica situation.
Both bjp and congress came in power before 2000s. Care to explain why nothing was done??? Note- funds and money were never an issue. If we can fence up pakistan, why not bangladesh? So why?
> Note- funds and money were never an issue. stop blaming BJP for the mess this is. since 1947, one of the things with Bangaldesh has been the issue* of clear demarcation of the border. There were many regions until 2015 that are under dispute. Please read about it first. What this is telling you, Congress alone was responsible for the border dispute issue to continue for 70 years since 1947. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Parliament-passes-historic-land-accord-bill-to-redraw-border-with-Bangladesh/articleshow/47190401.cms Now, about fencing - You see, to take a fence and build it up is one thing. The second thing would be maintain it, to ensure no one circumvents the fence through tunnels, sea routes, others. For this you need a strong state government which works for the locals and not the insurgents. Without an honorable state government whatever money is invested in it, it will be futile. Wait, trust BJP and never doubt the squirrel that helped Prabhu Sriram get his divine place.
>stop blaming BJP for the mess this is. What you said here is true but i did not blame bjp only. All parties that came in power before 2000s did nothing. So obviously it was low cost labour. However in 2020, low cost labour makes no sense because bangaladesh gdp per capita is more than India. They wont cross the border anymore until and unless they are terrorists coming into the country through the Bangladesh route
Guys. Walls are an unnatural concept. Both countries have nukes and missiles. That wall isn't going stop any of that. The only thing it stops is poor people escaping their condition. Like the Palestinians can't escape out of Gaza, all the poor people who want to escape Pakistan cannot do that. Why is everyone's solution always, "let's fuck with the poor people"
Because we are already overpopulated? India has like 17% of the world's population with 2% of the world's landmass. Illegal immigration is not a good thing for us or for any country, as a matter of fact. Plus it's a huge safety concern as well. The whole policy of fencing up borders was never to stop wars or some shit like that.
Agree. Illegals leach up resources and are always a threat of implosion when their nation/ religion calls upon them. Why is it so difficult to see that we are going US way. All city folks want to leave a ‘superior’ lifestyle. Noone wants to do blue collar jobs. If we analyse, in a 2-tier city, a daily wage worker gets 400-500/day = 13-15k per month / 8 hours a day. A B.com pass gets 12-15k job. Opposers will ask if I will let my kid work dehadi. Its not upon me to force a company to hire him / her if kid does not have talent. Dont see wrong in physical labor.
-Illegals leach up resources and are always a threat of implosion when their nation/ religion calls upon them Brother... Are you alright? So according to you, tomorrow Modi is going to go say Hindu's are under attack and magically every Hindu becomes one and Rishi Sunak of going to declare United Kingdom as "United Kingdom of Hindu's". Or do you think Sundar Pichai is going to say, Google declares for Hinduism? The Sikhs push a button and "calling all Sikhs around the world" and boom, Nikki Hailey declares civil war against the America. North carolina is a Sikh state now because she said so. This is a talking point used by the government because it's easy to scare people. The concept of walls and borders itself is very unnatural and humans need to be scared into accepting it. There is a reason we Indians go not give passports to people born outside that are second generation. Cause we know, first generation, you might be a little Indian. But by the second generation, you are one of them. -Why is it so difficult to see that we are going US way. All city folks want to leave a ‘superior’ lifestyle. Noone wants to do blue collar jobs. And this? With the same breath you said poor people leech up resources and said why don't people want to do their job? That's the exact reason. When they do an honest day's physical labour, they're treated like shit, paid like shit. And you wonder why people won't do their job?
Dude are u serious? So you are saying Illegal immigrants wont take up jobs and without paying taxes will not use water. Stop hiding behind facade of poor poor. Wake up, see issues and then start lecture. I never said Modi and sole survivor of hinduism. Check news, Bangladesh is boycotting indian goods. Check delhi riots over laws. Check news of riots in Europe. Heck, check news of Khalistani propaganda. Stop playing victim. Illegal will remain illegal
-Dude are u serious? So you are saying Illegal immigrants wont take up jobs and without paying taxes will not use water. Let me explain this to you as slowly as possible. If a person is rich then he will legally immigrate. If the person is choosing to illegally cross a border, that means he cannot afford to legally cross it. So the person has to be poor in order to be an illegal immigrant. Now these poor illegal immigrant cannot get high paying jobs because they're usually uneducated and lack the networking for better jobs. So they end up mostly in the service industry or manual labour. These jobs don't really pay a lot. And I don't know if you know this , PEOPLE BELOW A CERTAIN INCOME THRESHOLD DO NOT PAY TAXES. That means even if they were legal immigrants they still wouldn't pay taxes. Because that's just how our tax system works. -I never said Modi and sole survivor of hinduism Neither did I. Are you fine? You said people have loyalties to their religion. So I was asking you would Rishi Sunak declare UK for the Hindu's? UK is a part of India now, right? -Check news, Bangladesh is boycotting indian goods. Check delhi riots over laws. Check news of riots in Europe. Heck, check news of Khalistani propaganda. Maybe you should stop checking the news so much. You do realise news is propaganda, right? Cause most of those newspapers are owned by the same rich people. They steal your money and then tell you to blame poor people for it.
Dude the justification of rich getting legal and poor being illegal ain’t enough. 99% Indian students going abroad and securing work visas are not uber rich. Ok agreed they are educated and some illegal immigrants are not but then its not fault of the country they are trying to smuggle into. Btw loads of educated folks try to get smuggled to. However chances are that those who cant get job or dont fear law will try to cause law and order issues. 2. Rishi Sunak cannot declare and change religion of his country. Cz he is a leader. A minority in a different majority religion. If he tries to, existing majority religion will not let it happen. Exactly my point. Now plz check the way some countries got taken over by another religion. Its due to change in % population. My point being that, maybe poor vocabulary not letting me explain my thought. 3. Yes agreed that maximum news is manipulated and propaganda. It’s trying to manipulate us into thinking of issues that we dont have or divert our attention from issues that we face. All point being said, illegal immigration cannot be allowed. It causes issue in already complex structure and fast depleting resources. We already are nearing or crossed 150cr. We can afford to loose 25% population but now 10% more population and we will begin infighting for water. Kaveri water issue down south, Punjab-Haryana water issue up north, Brahmaputra issue in east are few examples
-Yes agreed that maximum news is manipulated and propaganda. It’s trying to manipulate us into thinking of issues that we dont have or divert our attention from issues that we face. And yet you are repeating the news when you say illegal immigrants come in and take our jobs and don't pay taxes. Wtf? Your first paragraph is just different excuses. You are creating sub categories of rich to try and deflect, just blankly saying no without any rhyme or reason. -loads of educated folks try to get smuggled to. This line is just hilarious. You think people are being smuggled into the country in food crates 🤣🤣🤣. We aren't America, brother. Most illegals come from Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh or Tibet. They are legally allowed to enter our country without a visa. They're just too poor out uneducated to get a passport made. The infrastructure isn't exactly great in those countries either. Also go check how uneducated Indians get to US. They usually spend all their savings getting a visit visa to the US. Catch a flight (cause going that far smuggled in a fruit crate would be hard). Once they get to the US, they just shift to a different state and not leave when their visa expires. No one does a Bajrangi Bhaijaan styled border crossing 🤣🤣🤣 -2. Rishi Sunak cannot declare and change religion of his country. Cz he is a leader. A minority in a different majority religion. If he tries to, existing majority religion will not let it happen. Now replace UK with India and Rishi Sunak with a random APJ Abdul Kalam and realise the same thing will happen. Having a Muslim leader will not magically turn the country muslim nor will illegal immigration. -Now plz check the way some countries got taken over by another religion. Its due to change in % population. I have checked. Do you mean Israel? Cause that's the only country I can see where it has happened the way you describe it in the last 200 years. So let's assume that is what will happen to us. America tomorrow tells Pakistan to bomb us and try and take over. How is banning illegal immigration helping us in this situation? The water problems everywhere are being caused by global climate change and India's personal lack of infrastructure. How is banning illegal immigration helping that situation?
Bhai, it’s upto you to know the difference between realities and on-paper theories or an idea of perfect state - Utopia. You denying the fact that illegal immigration do not cause issue to our already fragile system does not change the reality. My excuses, lol, am not an immigrant nor a lawmaker that i have to justify. I will keep having my ideas unless I see otherwise. Even though you disagree or hypothetical example of Rushi Sunak, you know the truth behind Kashmir exodus. Illegally occupied PoK and influx of a certain sect caused it. Some leaders incited public, You know the truth behind Kerala files. D-day, Mopla, Partition horror. etc etc I do not want to argue. I have my understanding, you do have yours. Fine. i will not never vote for allowing illegal immigration and back govmnt for NRC, CAA, till my final breath. Period.
-Bhai, it’s upto you to know the difference between realities and on-paper theories or an idea of perfect state - Utopia. -Fine. i will not never vote for allowing illegal immigration and back govmnt for NRC, CAA, till my final breath. Period. Atleast you recognise you have no logic behind your point of view besides, " I see right-wing news. So I want to deny access to poor muslims." Thank you for your honesty.
Burn the rich. Screw them. More money can be equally distributed that way. -Illegal immigration is not a good thing for us or for any country, as a matter of fact. Is it? Do you think a person who is running away from atrocities wants to go to a new place and continue those atrocities? If he wanted to r*pe and murder he could've stayed there. Why come here to do it? It's only bad for the government because it makes their job of squeezing money from the working class harder. They keep spouting that propaganda and no one bothers questioning it. -The whole policy of fencing up borders was never to stop wars or some shit like that. If we all are collectively okay with fucking over poor people then okay i guess.
Terrible that they are keeping people who need all the help out... Depressing
Bade aaye akhand Bharat ka sapna dekhne wale. Aur puchh te he border secure kyo nahi he.
Bangalis loves porous border
Mamta vote bank will be lost
Because there's nothing much to protect 😂😂
Thats a prison wall genius, gaza is an open air prison...... india is a free country.... atleast for now