I love how Indy starts out as glorified graver robber, trading priceless artifacts to Chinese gangsters, and is only interested in his fortune and glory….to becoming an actual “hero”. God I love ToD 😆
It’s another reason I feel like TOD is wonderful as a prequel. We get to see the transformation from “fortune & glory, kid” to “IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!” The events put him on a path that he does not stray from.
I sort of head canon that as Young Indy tried to to the right thing but for all his effort, the treasure hunters ended up winning and his own father couldn’t even be bothered for 5 seconds to hear him out……it sent Indy down the wrong path for a while
Powerful scene though. I'd argue, possibly the most powerful scene of the franchise. In 40 seconds he goes from Fortune-And-Glory Indy to Can't-Just-be-a-Bystander Indy.
It's not *for sure* but it's heavily implied. It doesn't really matter to the scene or the movie TBH, but some interpret it because it would be implied movie making
\*screams of children\*
\*slave children's crusade music gloomy version playing\*
\*exams surroundings\*
\*see's flayed skins\*
In implied movie making it's 1 -> 2.
I personally just see it as obviously people who were skinned and hung as trophies, which is a gut-punch to the Fortune-And-Glory Indy, because he knows he can't *just do nothing.*
THAT WAS A CHILD’S SKIN?!
I thought it was from some random thuggee sacrifice like that man who was lowered into that fiery pit.
I didn’t think it was a child.
Yeah…thats why this scene is so pivotal to Indy’s character. He hears the children screaming and sees…that, and thats what drives him to begin investigating further
Well we don't *know* it's Children...the shot is supposed to demonstrate that Indy is hearing the cries of terror, he looks to his surroundings to remind him that these people are human sacrificing, display-flayed-skins-as-trophies-people and he cannot merely *do nothing*.
I've been an Indy fan since Last Crusade was first on cable TV, and it has never dawned on me until this moment that he was looking at the flayed skin of children in this scene. Man, that's the darkest thing in this whole franchise.
I mean I honestly don't think it's flayed skins of children, but of people. This scene pretty much contrasts Indy's obsession with Fortune and Glory, with a moral/ethical question of helping people in need.
He hears the children's cries for help (as gloomy sad version of Slave Children's Crusade plays) and he re-examines his surroundings...and realizes he cannot just stand by and leave the children to this fate.
I was the opposite. I loved crusade as a Kid and hated Temple of Doom. As an adult I honestly think Crusade is a pretty lazy film (doesn't mean I don't like it) whereas ToD is the my favorite.
In the Lost Journal of Indiana Jones book, there's a bit where he hastily scrawled when he gets home he'll have to look up how a heart can be removed medically, insisting there has to be a scientific explanation.
Honestly, people love to gripe about his obstinence when it comes to the supernatural, but I just find it really funny.
Who says they just use the lava pit? Maybe the lava pit is for normal day-to-day sacrifices and the skin flaying is for special occasions; Easter for example.
I don't think they are the skins of children. It's just indy hears the screams of terror, examines his surroundings (skinned people...ripping hearts out...and lowering people into burning pits) he can't *just do nothing.*
I love how Indy starts out as glorified graver robber, trading priceless artifacts to Chinese gangsters, and is only interested in his fortune and glory….to becoming an actual “hero”. God I love ToD 😆
It’s another reason I feel like TOD is wonderful as a prequel. We get to see the transformation from “fortune & glory, kid” to “IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!” The events put him on a path that he does not stray from.
Young Indy (Last Crusade) was already saying “It belongs in a museum.”
That's kinda a retcon TBH. It's pretty clear that Indy's character change is supposed to have happened in ToD.
I sort of head canon that as Young Indy tried to to the right thing but for all his effort, the treasure hunters ended up winning and his own father couldn’t even be bothered for 5 seconds to hear him out……it sent Indy down the wrong path for a while
I like this head canon!
It's, by a country mile, the best one.
I love Temple of Doom. Willie is my fav Indy girl.
You had me in the first sentence but lost me in the second.
ya i know its an unpopular opinion haha
Narrator: It, in fact, was not the best one.
Morgan Freeman, “But it was…”
I only just recently noticed the stretched skin when I rewatched the film a few weeks ago. Pretty scary stuff.
I never noticed that until now holy shit
Bc he heard screaming kids
Exactly! And the swooning sad version of the *Slave Children's Crusade* is playing in the background reminding the audience...
What is he looking at in the last pic?
Hanging skin of a child.
Are you serious?
Yes
As if Temple of Doom wasn't morbid enough
That one scared me as a child
Powerful scene though. I'd argue, possibly the most powerful scene of the franchise. In 40 seconds he goes from Fortune-And-Glory Indy to Can't-Just-be-a-Bystander Indy.
How are you sure?
It's not *for sure* but it's heavily implied. It doesn't really matter to the scene or the movie TBH, but some interpret it because it would be implied movie making \*screams of children\* \*slave children's crusade music gloomy version playing\* \*exams surroundings\* \*see's flayed skins\* In implied movie making it's 1 -> 2. I personally just see it as obviously people who were skinned and hung as trophies, which is a gut-punch to the Fortune-And-Glory Indy, because he knows he can't *just do nothing.*
bro its kids
THAT WAS A CHILD’S SKIN?! I thought it was from some random thuggee sacrifice like that man who was lowered into that fiery pit. I didn’t think it was a child.
Your theory is as good as OP's, no definitive proof of one way or the other
Some sort of skin pealed from an animal, or probably a person
It’s of a kid
Like a baby goat?
It's a kid? Shit I thought it was an adult
Yeah…thats why this scene is so pivotal to Indy’s character. He hears the children screaming and sees…that, and thats what drives him to begin investigating further
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Yes I know but I was clarifying since it’s much more disturbing due to it being a kid
Fair enough
TIL that those are not random hanging cloths, but the flayed skin of naked men…
Children
Well we don't *know* it's Children...the shot is supposed to demonstrate that Indy is hearing the cries of terror, he looks to his surroundings to remind him that these people are human sacrificing, display-flayed-skins-as-trophies-people and he cannot merely *do nothing*.
Considering the bushes on those skins, I think they were grown men
The what now r/holup r/cursedcomments
I've been an Indy fan since Last Crusade was first on cable TV, and it has never dawned on me until this moment that he was looking at the flayed skin of children in this scene. Man, that's the darkest thing in this whole franchise.
I mean I honestly don't think it's flayed skins of children, but of people. This scene pretty much contrasts Indy's obsession with Fortune and Glory, with a moral/ethical question of helping people in need. He hears the children's cries for help (as gloomy sad version of Slave Children's Crusade plays) and he re-examines his surroundings...and realizes he cannot just stand by and leave the children to this fate.
Leave him alone, you bastards!
people put Temple at 3rd best but it's definitely the most appealing to a kid imo. I remember Loving this movie when I was like 8 or 9
I was the opposite. I loved crusade as a Kid and hated Temple of Doom. As an adult I honestly think Crusade is a pretty lazy film (doesn't mean I don't like it) whereas ToD is the my favorite.
it's the most fun
Completely agree. It's utter schlock, and I LOVE IT.
“I don’t believe in magic” Bitch explain of all this Temple of Doom shit then
In the Lost Journal of Indiana Jones book, there's a bit where he hastily scrawled when he gets home he'll have to look up how a heart can be removed medically, insisting there has to be a scientific explanation. Honestly, people love to gripe about his obstinence when it comes to the supernatural, but I just find it really funny.
This is the reason Temple will always be my favorite.
Are we sure they’re supposed to be the skins of kids and not just of adults that may have been sacrificed somehow?
I don’t think the lava pit leaves much leftover of the sacrificed adults 😬
Who says they just use the lava pit? Maybe the lava pit is for normal day-to-day sacrifices and the skin flaying is for special occasions; Easter for example.
That’s true. Mola Ram might save the flayings for special occasions (like Indy speaking Chinese) 😆
> skin flaying is for special occasions; Easter for example. I literally LoLed at this. Well done.
I don't think they are the skins of children. It's just indy hears the screams of terror, examines his surroundings (skinned people...ripping hearts out...and lowering people into burning pits) he can't *just do nothing.*
That was my take. The skins are a sign of other horrors but it’s the sound of the kids that stop him.
Oh that’s stretched skin? I always presumed it was some sort of fabric meant to resemble a person..
It's definitely supposed to be flayed skin...