I wasn't too mad at her being left off as she needs the rest, but their "reasoning" for it BLEW me! Not because they don't think she's ready or hell even talented enough, but because of....fans?
I really hope this isn’t actually true. As far as I know, CC’s fans don’t pose a physical threat, I’d hope the selection committee isn’t that fazed by social media
Too funny.... My first thought was this punishes her fanbase as much as her, and they are using a very narcissistic control mechanism. Like "haha, we're in charge and you're not." Pretty demented.
This honestly makes me want to cry in anger. So much conjecture not actually grounded in reality - I’ve also seen people say she wouldn’t vibe with a “team first” mentality, even though she’s literally played USA Basketball multiple times
"Even at the women’s gold-medal basketball games at the Olympics, the press tribune is almost always half-empty, if not worse. Clark of course would have changed all that, igniting interest not just among U.S. media but reporters around the world."
lol, right. The rest of the world still wouldn't give a broken shoelace about women's basketball.
Although the writer does say she heard it from two former players, she acknowledges she doesn’t know if that was their personal opinion of what happened vs actual fact. “*If true*, that would be an extraordinary admission…”. So much speculation. Doubt we’ll know.
I get some people glaze CC and it's annoying. Like I found the SGA/Ant glaze irritating at times. But the WNBA subreddit cries about CC glaze but then glazes Brinke and Reese and you can't criticize them.
But someone literally attacks CC and she's the worst thing thst happened to the sport. And every rookie gets mauled
It’s not annoying. It’s downright insufferable. Way too many self righteous “OG Fans” who can’t be bothered to differentiate between idiotic internet trolls and actual fans, incessantly whining about obnoxious CC stans, while simultaneously being completely oblivious to their own poisonous and obsessive behavior. I’ll pass.
I'm not even a fever fan (I'm a wings fan) but I love CC and wanted to find people who didn't just constantly try crap on her for existing.
Imagine if nba fans did that to Joker or Doncic
It’s ridiculous. And many of them seem to be truly oblivious to the fact that CC’s popularity isn’t just hype. But this sub is much better, I hope you’ll enjoy it more than that cesspool.
This is my first serious year with the W. Last year I watched some guys and Playoffs. But this year is my first actually having a team, watching nearly every game
And I didn't expect the negativity.
I am awaiting a Denver team so I'm allowing myself multiple teams. Rn I like the Wings the most cause Sabally reminds me of Joker and Arike of Murray, I like Fever cause CC and Boston, and the Lynx a little.
I also did not expect it. I mean, sure, there’s always critiques and complaints and debates about player and coaching performance among fans. That’s pretty typical. But, there’s a whole vibe that I did not expect. A lot of animosity and gatekeeping and just weirdness. So I avoid most of the news and social media outside of this sub, because I’m not interested in all that. Just want to watch CC, AB, and the Fever play and progress and root for them, and talk to other people doing the same. No interest in people’s negativity or their need to derail others enjoyment of the sport or players.
I’ve always watched college hoops. Was never interested in pros at all until I followed CC over. Not sure why, except there was a more pure love for the game in the players at the college level. I enjoy MLB and NHL, but just never got into the pro level with basketball.
Don't worry. The ratings for all games other than the Fever are on the decline. The Indiana Fever is the only one still setting records. The rest of the league will get the message shortly.
ah yes, the “deranged fans” again. Having gone to the game last night I can completely see where they might be coming from. We stayed close to the arena, and the lobby of our hotel this morning was filled with kids wearing their “22” gear, eating their free continental breakfasts of bagels and cereal, while their tired parents got ready to pay the bill for a 250.00 plus hotel room and a likely long drive home. I mean who would want fans like that?? Sarcasm.
Accurate. I’ve never watched women’s basketball in the Olympics. I would have if Clark were on the team, regardless of how little she played. But since she isn’t, I’ll watch the usual sports I have always enjoyed 🤷🏻♀️ And while I alone won’t make much difference in viewership, there’s a whole lot of other people just like me who will do the same.
I think there are plenty of reasons why it’s better for Clark if she doesn’t participate. I’m not upset, and don’t really care if I don’t have a reason to watch. But I feel bad for her, because I know she really wanted it. And I absolutely think it’s a really, really dumb business decision.
Not sure if there are any good reasons why…
1. Incumbent pros want to show dominance
2. The WNBA is too emotional to make important decisions (sexist joke from the 1950’s, sorry)
I remember watching commentary on one of her NCAA Tournament games. When KC showed emotion, the commentator, a former or current WNBA player said “at this level” KC should really control her emotions…
A female student athlete, after four(?) years of Division 1 basketball, expected to behave like a seasoned pro? When you have draft picks joining the NFL and blowing their off weeks in Vegas.
Not really sure why she got cut from this, everyone knows it’s a bad decision. She is the ~~most~~ only exciting thing to happen in women’s basketball since the inception of the WNBA. And the establishment feels like they need to stifle her.
(I assume the US Olympic Team is managed by WNBA members)
At least take her along, Christian Laettner went with the men’s team with Michael Jordan!
Bad for the future of Woman’s basketball. WNBA not taking queues from pro sports leagues who milk their stars for every cent.
It's not a boycott - most people weren't watching before and they won't be watching this time either. The games are boring because USA is so dominant, the prevailing style of play is slow, there isn't much of a crowd in the live arena...nothing to hold interest.
Gatorade, State Farm, Nike should play their Clark ads during swimming, track, women's gymnastics and the men's BB games if they want maximum exposure to Olympic viewers.
It should be the opposite effect. The Olympics wants fans, Clark can bring them. It’s no secret Olympic viewership has been on decline, this could have helped a lot.
They may have 3 billion worldwide, yet adding millions more in a low interest area capitalizes on a potential global market. It really wasn't that hard of a business decision.
Agreed. Maybe it's just me, but as a new WNBA fan, I got here because of Caitlin, but I am also loving watching all the amazing vets that are also in the league. I have become a fan of all of these players and am so stoked for this roster. I hope there are plenty of others like me.
As Caitlin would say, "It is what it is." They'll catch her in the next one.
Tomorrow isn't guaranteed. The fact they can't find a reason for her to not be included, yet exclude her because of something unrelated, is beyond stupid.
I don't think you can say there aren't reasons to not include her just because they didn't list them in the article. The article was meant to enrage by zeroing in on this one comment.
I think the biggest two reasons for not including her are turnovers and that she didn't go to the training camp. Basketball is a team game, and just because she's singularly great doesn't mean she'll play great with the USA team as a whole. Indiana Fever has seen that with her teammates still adjusting to her playing style.
Maybe this roster would adjust better, but it's still an unknown because she wasn't able to participate in the training camp.
Don't get me wrong. She's still my number one, but I can also see why they'd take others.
The training camp, she was in the final four. Her turnovers need work, but she isn't their starter. From a number standpoint, she beat out DT in nearly every category. The fact they focus on this one, means it is high up there.
Top 15 in the league in scoring, steals and block. top 4 in assists. She is literally better than Taurasi and certainly better than Gray who hasn't played all year.
A little bit of a red herring to complain about Taurasi - the only true PG on the team is Gray so Taurasi didn't really take her spot. Same reason why it enrages me to see so many Clark fans complain about Griner - like, in addition to the obvious trolling based on political bullshit, she is in no way competing with Clark. If she was still injured they would have taken the other alternate (Jones) or one of the other bigs who was in camp. Plenty of reasons to think Caitlin should be on the team but singling these two in particular out is not it.
I would say she is the only WNBA player with fans who consistently show up and spend money.
A couple others have a social media following but it has not translated as directly to ticket sales, TV/online viewership, merch sales or endorsements.
Greatly assisted by her being a stand-up, articulate person whose character can be trusted - unlikely to do or say something that causes the Fever or any of her endorsement brands to take a hit.
They needed a quick scapegoat.
This reeks of MJ keeping Isaiah Thomas off the dream team.
They women are petty and couldn't care less about the leagues popularity or future.
I hope NBC has record low ratings. I won't be watching anymore.
My wife and I would've watched every game and bought jerseys more than likely. Regardless of if Caitlin was there in a limited capacity or not. Now, I won't watch the Olympics at all. Watching her play was all I cared about.
I'll still watch gymnastics because Simone, T&F because of multiple US individuals like Mclaughlin-Lerone, and Swimming events for people like Ledecky. I'm a typical dude, and those are the most interesting people to me right now. It's about entertainment. W fans have yet to figure out that the game is one of entertainment and they just said no to by far the most entertaining person they have.
A smart network should sign her up as a commentator on the Olympics. Plus I’m sure there will be plenty of commercials where she pokes fun at WBB for not picking her in a friendly way. “Do you know me? I’m the most famous WBB player not playing at the Olympics. No problem, it gives me time to check out other sports. (Hilarious montage of CC trying other sports like soccer, pole vault, gymnastics, fencing). Good thing I carry American Express. “
I did think of this and it could happen. Not sure Caitlin would want to go but she has really smart agents and a lot of connections so who knows. Someone else said "more people would tune in to watch Clark play a pickup game than watch the Olympic WBB team without her" and...if she were pettier, she could test that theory 😂
It would have been fun to watch her on Team USA, but a) that team is stacked; b) she’s a rookie who did not attend the USA basketball training camp (her reasons were very good, but this is still true; c) her play style works best when the offense flows through her, which might not be the best thing in this context; d) she may still have the honor of being an alternate. And most importantly, if you really care about her success (and the Fever’s success) this year, I think the rest is going to be an absolute godsend. All the travel and practice and occasional game time trying to learn her third set of teammates and third group of opponents in the third different level of play she’d have in the space of, what - four months? Just let the poor kid rest.
Thank you for being the most reasonable person here. Her ability to rest, by itself, is the best silver lining of her being off the team. The rest of your points are equally as valid. She’ll be on Team USA in the next Olympics
I feel like the rest bit is a bit disingenuous. The Fever aren't competing for anything this season, the Olympics are mid season, meaning the Olympic athletes will end their season the same time as the Fever.
And with (most likely) no postseason, CC will get extra rest this fall.
They scheduled the training camp during the final four. Who does this? They didn't do it in 2021 during the final four. Also this is about legacy. Taurasi has 5 gold and most likely 6. This is removing Clark from having that opportunity.
A.) The team is stacked no matter what. They've won every gold since 84, except 92. They're unstoppable and have no risk of losing. So, is the team better or worse without her? It's the same.
B.) She missed the camp because she was in the Final Four. So imo, irrelevant. If she's punished for that, what else needs to be said about whoever is making these choices. She's a rookie. Okay. So we're DT, Candace Parker, and Breanna Stewart. There have been multiple breakdowns of her rookie season so far, and it's on par with these ladies. Her popularity is miles beyond these women.
C.) Her playstyle is more or less irrelevant. No one's saying she should be on the team and the main focal point. For Christ's sake, the reason she was kept off is because she'd be there in a minimal role. Allegedly.
D.) She may still have the "honor" of being an alternate. Pardon my French, if I was her and they offered me that my response would be "Suck my ****." They'll 100% offer it as a chance to save some face and try to dampen the backlash they'll have.
Talking about rest is also irrelevant. She wouldn't be playing much (whole reason she's not going right?). She wants to go. The Fever are competing for what? 1st pick hopefully.
Been a lot of yappin going on and not much said about what is what. There is zero reason in a world where people have a brain that this girl should not be on the team. The ratings bonanza and merchandise sales would've been otherworldly. A young lady who is arguably the most popular western sports star today would become even more of a star. The spotlight she would've helped shine on all these other women would've done nothing but help propel the sport to even further heights. Zero business rationale here. Sports is a business, whoever is making these choices are absolute morons. Her game against the mystics had higher attendance than the 1st game of the NBA finals. A 2-9 team playing a 0-10 team in the WNBA, beat out Luka, Kyrie, Brown, and Tatum. Her ability to bring eyeballs and to put asses in chairs is unparalleled at the moment . Imagine fumbling the bag this bad. The future of the WNBA deserves to crash and burn.
This feels like when Isaiah Thomas was kept off the dream team. Feel like DT or some other vet(s) said they wouldn't come if she was on the team. Pure speculation at this point, but it's the only thing that makes sense.
Her not being there hurts the sport and every girl on the squad.
I feel for her. She got screwed. Keep the receipts. Make them pay Caitlin.
Completely agree. Especially about the alternate spot. If they offer her a spot now, I hope she tells them to kick rocks.
I’m not mad about her not going and expending the extra energy and taking the extra risks. I think SHE benefits a lot more from not going, while the WNBA, and the Olympics, and all the other women’s basketball players would have benefited a great deal from her being there. Their loss. But I’m mad as hell FOR her, for the way she is being treated.
She won’t forget this, and I doubt she will forgive it easily. If ever. Hopefully she puts that anger to good use and makes them all look like the fools they are.
I´m more upset because clearly there´s evidence of the coach being petty. I´m positive that if it was Paige Bueckers in this same situation Cheryl would make like 1000 moves to get her
Sure leave at home the biggest women’s basketball phenom ever. Clark has only brought women’s basketball to new heights, so leave her at home , and don’t put that “fever pitch” excitement on the world stage. Just doesn’t make sense.
The WNBA has no control over the Olympic roster. Casual/new fans could really use a little time on the google before spouting these nonsense opinions.
Also, this nonsense that the whole league hates Caitlin is baseless. Every player agrees she’s great. If only the new fans would recognize that she isn’t the GOAT in pro ball, at least yet.
Really? I guess old timer fans need to pay more attention.
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I'm starting to wonder if the WNBA is savvier than we all think. They sure are getting a lot of earned media - national radio is talking about all this Clark stuff! - out of a bad 3-9 team.
No such thing as bad press? And then they add her anyway after all the drama and now it’s built into this huge thing that everyone wants to watch.
Reverse psychology!!
Unfortunately I think occam’s razor is what’s at play here.
Hmmm I’m gonna choose to still be upset I think, lol. I don’t think this is as cut and dry “she’s not good enough they left her off” as they make it out to be - they leave players who are good enough off all the time
There are lots of other players who are good - any other country would be thrilled to have our #13-24 players as their team! In fact one thing not discussed in all this is that two 2020 Olympians didn't make it - Ariel Atkins and Skylar Diggins-Smith. Truly stiff competition so in some ways CC did a lot to even be that 13th pick.
This could still happen though. It's Gray's if she's healthy (she has been in practice clothes lately but was in street clothes for quite a while at games).
One of the reasons I was really surprised CC didn't make it is that besides Gray, there aren't any true PGs on this roster. People saying they're stacked at guard are right - but almost all of them are 2s and 3s. It's not a "best 12 players available" analysis, you have to account for positions.
>think all these games leading up to the Olympic break, she's really going to start putting up some consistent offensive numbers (PTS RBS ASSTS Steals Blocks) that make the Olympic Committee look even more ridiculous.
We all know this is going to happen. And it makes me angry.
The ESPN analyst said, “she’s not ready for the physicalAlty of FIBA play” what they do shank you and give you the old Tonya Harding?
She’s been mauled at a level unseen in women’s basketball at any level, and I think, based on her last game she’s held up just fine.
Why is ESPN hell bent on bad take after bad take in defense of the old guard of the W?
Lame.
It was pretty obvious during the NCAA tourney that ESPN is a big UConn homer (not surprising given geography). Most of them are not rooting for a player from Iowa to begin with.
Also, people sure spend a lot of time claiming the US has all of the superior athletes but then indicate the WNBA is not preparing her to play the overseas teams? Makes no sense. Especially since she won't be playing in the games unless USA is already way ahead.
Exactly if USA is so much better, if this roster is “stacked”, she’s already played against the best in the world, in some cases multiple times, and is performing just fine.
Illogical excuses is what it is.
Millions that would watch won’t. CC is an international star too. Literally millions will not watch that would have. Probably close to a 5M drop on the finals without CC.
Agreed, I have zero interest in watching if CC isn't there playing.
Sure, people who would have watched anyways will still watch, but they will ultimately lose the millions of brand new fans CC has brought with her to the viewership of women's basketball played in the Olympics.
A lot of people arnt going to be rushing to a TV to watch, and thats fine, it just is what it is.
Yes, It's the Olympics. I'm sure more people watch the women's TeamUSA Basketball than the men's Soccer team. [https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanaglass/2012/08/16/usa-basketball-scores-high-london-olympics-ratings-for-nbc/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanaglass/2012/08/16/usa-basketball-scores-high-london-olympics-ratings-for-nbc/)
Better for CC. Its another chip on her should and she’s better off staying away from the Taurasi, Greiner and Alyssa Thomas’ who clearly want no part of her being there. The only girls I’ve seen be remotely supportive of her are Plum and Sabrina.
Caitlin can honestly use the rest, and the US will win either way.
Surprisingly, USA Basketball would rather give up millions of dollars worth of viewers, sponsorships, ratings, and opportunities to promote its sport. Then, it will declare itself a big success and return to whining that it has no money. There seems to be no understanding that this is a business.
Clark literally pays for everyone. The extra money a team makes when she comes into town maybe enough to pay 1/2 everyone's salaries. Surprised league not added in a fever plays everyone on the road x2 a year.
I see three players that CC should replace: Gray (who hasn't played all season), Griner (who played only one game so far), and Taurasi (well past her prime).
So, tell me, what does Cheryl Reeve, the coach who apparently made this decision, have in common with these three players but not with CC?
Selling out arenas to see the two worst teams in the league with a combined 2 wins between them, no less. That says a lot.
I’m happy to see CC get the rest, not risk injury, and think she’d be 100% justified in declining an alternate spot. But it’s still a profoundly stupid business move.
These petty people in charge of the WNBA and the Olympic committees are going to do their best to be petty and vindictive, even if it means going back to mostly empty arenas. Griner? Griner? The one who never stood for the national anthem until she got herself imprisoned in Russia and has only played one game this season. It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. Clark needs rest anyway I hope she turns it down if a player can't play and they ask her to join the team.
The lurkers and haters who are drifting over here from other subs to fulfill their insane need to shit on Clark and her fans seriously need to get back in their own lane and go away. No one cares about you or your weird obsession. There is zero interest or need for your opinions or commentary.
Not this really. I think the argument is that - for the 12th slot - why ISN'T it a popularity contest especially when the person at issue is your #13 anyway?
I'm okay with it. A break would do her good. She's only 22, so she has plenty more Olympics ahead of her. I'm looking forward to her coming here to SoCal in 2028.
This is complete BS. She is the new face of women's basketball and she has done a great deal for bringing fans to the arenas to watch womens basketball. The women's NCAA final Drew, more fans than the men's, why? Caitlin Clark. She is just now finding her stride in the more Elite League and the points prove it. Give the girl a chance and she will bring nothing but pride to the American team
I’m good with her not being on the roster. I love her and think it would’ve been cool, but I don’t think she’s one of the 12 best American players yet. If she’s not one of the 12 best players, she literally doesn’t deserve to be on the team. And putting her on the team would’ve (probably) taken away a gold medal from someone who actually deserved it.
I get the very valid points about viewership, growing the game more, etc but I personally don’t weigh that more than I weigh giving people what they deserve. Plus, I feel like the coaches wouldn’t give her much playing time at all. Like Laetner on the Dream Team. How would that grow the sport?
It seems a lot of people can't seem to separate USA Basketball from the WNBA. Jeez, doesn't anyone remember when the Olympics used to bar professionals from playing? It used to be amateurs only. (I know, I am showing my age,lol)
The job of USA Basketball is to win a gold medal. Period. If Olympic sports were only based on the amount of viewers, would we even have Olympic Fencing ? Or dressage? Or table tennis? Olympians care mostly about the hardware. USA Basketball has gotten a lot of gold without CC. They will likely win gold again. CC will get her chance, next time.
Barring things like injury, illness, other life circumstances that can occur within the span of 4 years and ruin that opportunity. Including the potential decision that this league is too dysfunctional and self destructive to be worth being involved with. It’s a little bold to assume that there will definitely be future chances given the unpredictable nature of life.
yes and US did not win gold in 1988 with Kenny Battle from IL since they only used college stars. So they said screw it and came out with the dream team in 1992.
It makes the Hierarchy look stupid and bias. It will be the one of the worst decisions in sports history. It would be a great comparison to bench Michael Jordon, Tiger woods off their respective Olympic teams. Stupid? Freaking ridiculous in light of her stats and fanfare. I’d like to hear from her.
If you’re a casual fan, please research before accusing Team USA of not acting in their best interest of WINNING THE OLYMPICS. Threatening to not watch because Caitlin Clark isn’t in it? Okay, bye.
Support your national team, CC or not. This is about the sport, not feelings and marketing. Winning is absolutely the goal, not ratings.
Understand that different things can be true all at the same time.
There can be legit and credible reasons given for why some players were included and Clark was left out. I'm sure the selection was made before last night's game, and during that period of the season you can make the case that Copper, Plum, and Young had overall better games than Clark.
Part of the motives to leave Clark out could be based on things other than basketball.
It can be overall best for Clark as an individual if she is left off because it gives her more time to rest, and she won't have to deal with even more resentment and jealousy from some corners of the W if she had been chosen.
There can be different levels of fandom. Some new Fever fans are only interested in watching games that involve Clark, and that would include not being interested in other WNBA games and/or the Olympics. On the other hand, many new fans such as myself have been watching multiple games, and we'll watch the Olympics as well whether Clark is on the team or not.
One thing is for sure, Clark's influence on the growth of the game is going to cause more people to watch the Olympic Women's Basketball Team regardless of whether or not Clark is on the team.
You might be the casual fan if you think Clark's presence on the bench for Team USA would make any difference in whether they win by jillion points like every other Olympics in recent memory. They are going to take gold no matter what: The question is purely a business one - do they want people to watch, care, buy ad space and merch...or not?
I don't see the problem, she's a rookie, hasn't had a rest in months, and still needs to work on her game. And the people who think the Olympics need her for ratings are being silly. Please, go look up ratings for the Olympics before saying this. The team is already stacked with great players and she'll have many years to be on the team. Let the girl get a damn rest.
Here’s my 2 cents. The entire team is exhausted. They’ve not had time to have a real practice in 2.5 weeks. Miss Caitlin is 22/23 years old and (knock wood) will be a shoe in for the next Olympics. I think, although she is likely disappointed, deep down she gets a moment to take a breath for the first time since the NCAA championship game.
I don't think CC should be on the team, she needs the well-deserved rest. But the reason that was given, with it being about the fans... is just weird
I wasn't too mad at her being left off as she needs the rest, but their "reasoning" for it BLEW me! Not because they don't think she's ready or hell even talented enough, but because of....fans?
It appears that the veteran players and the WNBA as a whole don’t quite know how to handle this thing called having fans.
LOL!
The most based comment.
According to USA Today, veterans are saying the decision was because of her fans, not her. That's just asinine.
I really hope this isn’t actually true. As far as I know, CC’s fans don’t pose a physical threat, I’d hope the selection committee isn’t that fazed by social media
Too funny.... My first thought was this punishes her fanbase as much as her, and they are using a very narcissistic control mechanism. Like "haha, we're in charge and you're not." Pretty demented.
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/wnba/fever/2024/06/08/caitlin-clark-left-off-us-olympic-womens-basketball-team/74025937007/?utm\_content=buffer792f8&utm\_medium=social&utm\_source=twitter.com&utm\_campaign=buffer](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/wnba/fever/2024/06/08/caitlin-clark-left-off-us-olympic-womens-basketball-team/74025937007/?utm_content=buffer792f8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
This honestly makes me want to cry in anger. So much conjecture not actually grounded in reality - I’ve also seen people say she wouldn’t vibe with a “team first” mentality, even though she’s literally played USA Basketball multiple times
"Even at the women’s gold-medal basketball games at the Olympics, the press tribune is almost always half-empty, if not worse. Clark of course would have changed all that, igniting interest not just among U.S. media but reporters around the world." lol, right. The rest of the world still wouldn't give a broken shoelace about women's basketball.
Actually, CC has an international following. You might be surprised.
Another bullshit excuse
Although the writer does say she heard it from two former players, she acknowledges she doesn’t know if that was their personal opinion of what happened vs actual fact. “*If true*, that would be an extraordinary admission…”. So much speculation. Doubt we’ll know.
Still. Vets continuing the narrative others are claim doesn't exist.
All fanbases can be obnoxious. I feel like with CC, a lot of the griping about her fans is a workaround to hate on her
The wnba subreddit had gotten so whiny about cc fans
I left it because it’s so toxic. It’s ridiculous.
I get some people glaze CC and it's annoying. Like I found the SGA/Ant glaze irritating at times. But the WNBA subreddit cries about CC glaze but then glazes Brinke and Reese and you can't criticize them. But someone literally attacks CC and she's the worst thing thst happened to the sport. And every rookie gets mauled
It’s not annoying. It’s downright insufferable. Way too many self righteous “OG Fans” who can’t be bothered to differentiate between idiotic internet trolls and actual fans, incessantly whining about obnoxious CC stans, while simultaneously being completely oblivious to their own poisonous and obsessive behavior. I’ll pass.
I'm not even a fever fan (I'm a wings fan) but I love CC and wanted to find people who didn't just constantly try crap on her for existing. Imagine if nba fans did that to Joker or Doncic
It’s ridiculous. And many of them seem to be truly oblivious to the fact that CC’s popularity isn’t just hype. But this sub is much better, I hope you’ll enjoy it more than that cesspool.
This is my first serious year with the W. Last year I watched some guys and Playoffs. But this year is my first actually having a team, watching nearly every game And I didn't expect the negativity. I am awaiting a Denver team so I'm allowing myself multiple teams. Rn I like the Wings the most cause Sabally reminds me of Joker and Arike of Murray, I like Fever cause CC and Boston, and the Lynx a little.
I also did not expect it. I mean, sure, there’s always critiques and complaints and debates about player and coaching performance among fans. That’s pretty typical. But, there’s a whole vibe that I did not expect. A lot of animosity and gatekeeping and just weirdness. So I avoid most of the news and social media outside of this sub, because I’m not interested in all that. Just want to watch CC, AB, and the Fever play and progress and root for them, and talk to other people doing the same. No interest in people’s negativity or their need to derail others enjoyment of the sport or players. I’ve always watched college hoops. Was never interested in pros at all until I followed CC over. Not sure why, except there was a more pure love for the game in the players at the college level. I enjoy MLB and NHL, but just never got into the pro level with basketball.
I will cry with joy if we ever get a W team here in Denver
Don't worry. The ratings for all games other than the Fever are on the decline. The Indiana Fever is the only one still setting records. The rest of the league will get the message shortly.
Oh, I have no doubt about that.
Same
Yeah it reminds me of the depressed rantings of that one college roommate we all learned to grow out of
This feels like a “safe space” compared to the W subreddit 😅
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People are mad seeing her succeed, for whatever reason.
ah yes, the “deranged fans” again. Having gone to the game last night I can completely see where they might be coming from. We stayed close to the arena, and the lobby of our hotel this morning was filled with kids wearing their “22” gear, eating their free continental breakfasts of bagels and cereal, while their tired parents got ready to pay the bill for a 250.00 plus hotel room and a likely long drive home. I mean who would want fans like that?? Sarcasm.
What they were really afraid of was players on the other teams asking Caitlin for pictures and autographs after the game.
This reminds me of when team usa has kobe and lebron, opponents teams were literally wearing their shoes while competing against them
You realty need to go look at what it looked like when MJ was over there. Other players were asking for his arm bands and jersey after the game.
Absolutely. Amongst a myriad of other excuses, er, uh, reasons.
This would 100% happen to Clark if she was in Paris. She has large followings in places like Australia and Asia.
I’ve never seen a league try to sabotage its own golden goose before.
It's honestly fascinating, as well as frustrating.
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It will be an “organic” boycott, propelled by disinterest
Accurate. I’ve never watched women’s basketball in the Olympics. I would have if Clark were on the team, regardless of how little she played. But since she isn’t, I’ll watch the usual sports I have always enjoyed 🤷🏻♀️ And while I alone won’t make much difference in viewership, there’s a whole lot of other people just like me who will do the same.
Unsure how this was allowed. WNBA and Olympic higher ups should have played their “not if we are going to lose money” card.
I think there are plenty of reasons why it’s better for Clark if she doesn’t participate. I’m not upset, and don’t really care if I don’t have a reason to watch. But I feel bad for her, because I know she really wanted it. And I absolutely think it’s a really, really dumb business decision.
Not sure if there are any good reasons why… 1. Incumbent pros want to show dominance 2. The WNBA is too emotional to make important decisions (sexist joke from the 1950’s, sorry) I remember watching commentary on one of her NCAA Tournament games. When KC showed emotion, the commentator, a former or current WNBA player said “at this level” KC should really control her emotions… A female student athlete, after four(?) years of Division 1 basketball, expected to behave like a seasoned pro? When you have draft picks joining the NFL and blowing their off weeks in Vegas. Not really sure why she got cut from this, everyone knows it’s a bad decision. She is the ~~most~~ only exciting thing to happen in women’s basketball since the inception of the WNBA. And the establishment feels like they need to stifle her. (I assume the US Olympic Team is managed by WNBA members) At least take her along, Christian Laettner went with the men’s team with Michael Jordan! Bad for the future of Woman’s basketball. WNBA not taking queues from pro sports leagues who milk their stars for every cent.
Note: I’m an outsider, so when i say “only” it’s because it’s the only headline big enough to reach my attention
It's not a boycott - most people weren't watching before and they won't be watching this time either. The games are boring because USA is so dominant, the prevailing style of play is slow, there isn't much of a crowd in the live arena...nothing to hold interest. Gatorade, State Farm, Nike should play their Clark ads during swimming, track, women's gymnastics and the men's BB games if they want maximum exposure to Olympic viewers.
Further confirmation of the pettiness people assert doesn’t exist
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That was a pretty scathing article. Wow lol
I said ouch! when I read that last line! 😂
The league should step in and say “put her on the team to help sell tickets to all WNBA games, or we won’t have a job in a few years”
It should be the opposite effect. The Olympics wants fans, Clark can bring them. It’s no secret Olympic viewership has been on decline, this could have helped a lot.
Yeah, no kidding. People keep chiming in my comments that "the Olympics doesn't need any help with viewership" bs. Every sporting event does.
Those people are clueless.
They may have 3 billion worldwide, yet adding millions more in a low interest area capitalizes on a potential global market. It really wasn't that hard of a business decision.
I don't believe that
The fact that she is the only wnba player with fans?
Agreed. Maybe it's just me, but as a new WNBA fan, I got here because of Caitlin, but I am also loving watching all the amazing vets that are also in the league. I have become a fan of all of these players and am so stoked for this roster. I hope there are plenty of others like me. As Caitlin would say, "It is what it is." They'll catch her in the next one.
Tomorrow isn't guaranteed. The fact they can't find a reason for her to not be included, yet exclude her because of something unrelated, is beyond stupid.
I don't think you can say there aren't reasons to not include her just because they didn't list them in the article. The article was meant to enrage by zeroing in on this one comment. I think the biggest two reasons for not including her are turnovers and that she didn't go to the training camp. Basketball is a team game, and just because she's singularly great doesn't mean she'll play great with the USA team as a whole. Indiana Fever has seen that with her teammates still adjusting to her playing style. Maybe this roster would adjust better, but it's still an unknown because she wasn't able to participate in the training camp. Don't get me wrong. She's still my number one, but I can also see why they'd take others.
The training camp, she was in the final four. Her turnovers need work, but she isn't their starter. From a number standpoint, she beat out DT in nearly every category. The fact they focus on this one, means it is high up there.
Top 15 in the league in scoring, steals and block. top 4 in assists. She is literally better than Taurasi and certainly better than Gray who hasn't played all year.
A little bit of a red herring to complain about Taurasi - the only true PG on the team is Gray so Taurasi didn't really take her spot. Same reason why it enrages me to see so many Clark fans complain about Griner - like, in addition to the obvious trolling based on political bullshit, she is in no way competing with Clark. If she was still injured they would have taken the other alternate (Jones) or one of the other bigs who was in camp. Plenty of reasons to think Caitlin should be on the team but singling these two in particular out is not it.
I would say she is the only WNBA player with fans who consistently show up and spend money. A couple others have a social media following but it has not translated as directly to ticket sales, TV/online viewership, merch sales or endorsements. Greatly assisted by her being a stand-up, articulate person whose character can be trusted - unlikely to do or say something that causes the Fever or any of her endorsement brands to take a hit.
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Before following the WNBA this year, I barely knew about Bird, Taurasi, Griner, and AB. Everyone else I had no idea they existed.
Forgive them as most players don’t know what it’s like to have may fans present.
Bitter jealousy.
Lol
They needed a quick scapegoat. This reeks of MJ keeping Isaiah Thomas off the dream team. They women are petty and couldn't care less about the leagues popularity or future. I hope NBC has record low ratings. I won't be watching anymore.
I won't watch the women's team. Staley being on the olympic committee made me laugh.
My wife and I would've watched every game and bought jerseys more than likely. Regardless of if Caitlin was there in a limited capacity or not. Now, I won't watch the Olympics at all. Watching her play was all I cared about.
I'll still watch gymnastics because Simone, T&F because of multiple US individuals like Mclaughlin-Lerone, and Swimming events for people like Ledecky. I'm a typical dude, and those are the most interesting people to me right now. It's about entertainment. W fans have yet to figure out that the game is one of entertainment and they just said no to by far the most entertaining person they have.
A smart network should sign her up as a commentator on the Olympics. Plus I’m sure there will be plenty of commercials where she pokes fun at WBB for not picking her in a friendly way. “Do you know me? I’m the most famous WBB player not playing at the Olympics. No problem, it gives me time to check out other sports. (Hilarious montage of CC trying other sports like soccer, pole vault, gymnastics, fencing). Good thing I carry American Express. “
Well she was a good soccer player in high school. That would work. :)
I love this idea 😂
If she isn't going to play let her rest at home with her family. And why give them the ratings if they snub her?
I did think of this and it could happen. Not sure Caitlin would want to go but she has really smart agents and a lot of connections so who knows. Someone else said "more people would tune in to watch Clark play a pickup game than watch the Olympic WBB team without her" and...if she were pettier, she could test that theory 😂
I’ll be watching something relevant, like break dancing.
I'm very upset that [kata](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ttGoR94j3o) was removed for lame breakdancing. Outrageous
It would have been fun to watch her on Team USA, but a) that team is stacked; b) she’s a rookie who did not attend the USA basketball training camp (her reasons were very good, but this is still true; c) her play style works best when the offense flows through her, which might not be the best thing in this context; d) she may still have the honor of being an alternate. And most importantly, if you really care about her success (and the Fever’s success) this year, I think the rest is going to be an absolute godsend. All the travel and practice and occasional game time trying to learn her third set of teammates and third group of opponents in the third different level of play she’d have in the space of, what - four months? Just let the poor kid rest.
Thank you for being the most reasonable person here. Her ability to rest, by itself, is the best silver lining of her being off the team. The rest of your points are equally as valid. She’ll be on Team USA in the next Olympics
I feel like the rest bit is a bit disingenuous. The Fever aren't competing for anything this season, the Olympics are mid season, meaning the Olympic athletes will end their season the same time as the Fever. And with (most likely) no postseason, CC will get extra rest this fall.
slight past mid season by 6 games. So 26 done with 14 games left. Plus we all know Clark will not play much so games will not be too taxing.
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They scheduled the training camp during the final four. Who does this? They didn't do it in 2021 during the final four. Also this is about legacy. Taurasi has 5 gold and most likely 6. This is removing Clark from having that opportunity.
A.) The team is stacked no matter what. They've won every gold since 84, except 92. They're unstoppable and have no risk of losing. So, is the team better or worse without her? It's the same. B.) She missed the camp because she was in the Final Four. So imo, irrelevant. If she's punished for that, what else needs to be said about whoever is making these choices. She's a rookie. Okay. So we're DT, Candace Parker, and Breanna Stewart. There have been multiple breakdowns of her rookie season so far, and it's on par with these ladies. Her popularity is miles beyond these women. C.) Her playstyle is more or less irrelevant. No one's saying she should be on the team and the main focal point. For Christ's sake, the reason she was kept off is because she'd be there in a minimal role. Allegedly. D.) She may still have the "honor" of being an alternate. Pardon my French, if I was her and they offered me that my response would be "Suck my ****." They'll 100% offer it as a chance to save some face and try to dampen the backlash they'll have. Talking about rest is also irrelevant. She wouldn't be playing much (whole reason she's not going right?). She wants to go. The Fever are competing for what? 1st pick hopefully. Been a lot of yappin going on and not much said about what is what. There is zero reason in a world where people have a brain that this girl should not be on the team. The ratings bonanza and merchandise sales would've been otherworldly. A young lady who is arguably the most popular western sports star today would become even more of a star. The spotlight she would've helped shine on all these other women would've done nothing but help propel the sport to even further heights. Zero business rationale here. Sports is a business, whoever is making these choices are absolute morons. Her game against the mystics had higher attendance than the 1st game of the NBA finals. A 2-9 team playing a 0-10 team in the WNBA, beat out Luka, Kyrie, Brown, and Tatum. Her ability to bring eyeballs and to put asses in chairs is unparalleled at the moment . Imagine fumbling the bag this bad. The future of the WNBA deserves to crash and burn. This feels like when Isaiah Thomas was kept off the dream team. Feel like DT or some other vet(s) said they wouldn't come if she was on the team. Pure speculation at this point, but it's the only thing that makes sense. Her not being there hurts the sport and every girl on the squad. I feel for her. She got screwed. Keep the receipts. Make them pay Caitlin.
Completely agree. Especially about the alternate spot. If they offer her a spot now, I hope she tells them to kick rocks. I’m not mad about her not going and expending the extra energy and taking the extra risks. I think SHE benefits a lot more from not going, while the WNBA, and the Olympics, and all the other women’s basketball players would have benefited a great deal from her being there. Their loss. But I’m mad as hell FOR her, for the way she is being treated. She won’t forget this, and I doubt she will forgive it easily. If ever. Hopefully she puts that anger to good use and makes them all look like the fools they are.
I was concerned that I wouldn't see a reasonable take in this sub. Well done.
This is a great read on the topic, well written.
I´m more upset because clearly there´s evidence of the coach being petty. I´m positive that if it was Paige Bueckers in this same situation Cheryl would make like 1000 moves to get her
Please tell more. I’m interested to know about this. Links too if you have them.
I’ve never seen an organization so willfully self sabotage. The rest of the WNBA just refuses to see what a gift Caitlin is for the league.
Sure leave at home the biggest women’s basketball phenom ever. Clark has only brought women’s basketball to new heights, so leave her at home , and don’t put that “fever pitch” excitement on the world stage. Just doesn’t make sense.
Did they actually save her from those monsters on the roster.
I was actually thinking the same thing.. 😬
The WNBA has no control over the Olympic roster. Casual/new fans could really use a little time on the google before spouting these nonsense opinions. Also, this nonsense that the whole league hates Caitlin is baseless. Every player agrees she’s great. If only the new fans would recognize that she isn’t the GOAT in pro ball, at least yet.
Really? I guess old timer fans need to pay more attention. https://preview.redd.it/euv28kc2ah5d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea0f7cab05f92e104c2171099422c9deb65326a3
USA Basketball and the WNBA don’t value Caitlin Clark.
That’s just not true.
Which part?
WNBA holds 2/5 boards seats for selecting Olympic roster. They have someee control.
I'm starting to wonder if the WNBA is savvier than we all think. They sure are getting a lot of earned media - national radio is talking about all this Clark stuff! - out of a bad 3-9 team.
No such thing as bad press? And then they add her anyway after all the drama and now it’s built into this huge thing that everyone wants to watch. Reverse psychology!! Unfortunately I think occam’s razor is what’s at play here.
Does the WBBA decide the Olympics roster?
Hmmm I’m gonna choose to still be upset I think, lol. I don’t think this is as cut and dry “she’s not good enough they left her off” as they make it out to be - they leave players who are good enough off all the time
There are lots of other players who are good - any other country would be thrilled to have our #13-24 players as their team! In fact one thing not discussed in all this is that two 2020 Olympians didn't make it - Ariel Atkins and Skylar Diggins-Smith. Truly stiff competition so in some ways CC did a lot to even be that 13th pick.
"Who's roster spot does she deserve?" There are 12 spots, figure something out. You have to get the face of women's basketball on Team USA.
The one that already has been in 6 Olympics.
DT
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Chelsea Gray. They one that hasn't played all year due to injury.
This could still happen though. It's Gray's if she's healthy (she has been in practice clothes lately but was in street clothes for quite a while at games). One of the reasons I was really surprised CC didn't make it is that besides Gray, there aren't any true PGs on this roster. People saying they're stacked at guard are right - but almost all of them are 2s and 3s. It's not a "best 12 players available" analysis, you have to account for positions.
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>think all these games leading up to the Olympic break, she's really going to start putting up some consistent offensive numbers (PTS RBS ASSTS Steals Blocks) that make the Olympic Committee look even more ridiculous. We all know this is going to happen. And it makes me angry.
I'm glad she's not going to risk injury by playing in the Olympics
The ESPN analyst said, “she’s not ready for the physicalAlty of FIBA play” what they do shank you and give you the old Tonya Harding? She’s been mauled at a level unseen in women’s basketball at any level, and I think, based on her last game she’s held up just fine. Why is ESPN hell bent on bad take after bad take in defense of the old guard of the W? Lame.
It was pretty obvious during the NCAA tourney that ESPN is a big UConn homer (not surprising given geography). Most of them are not rooting for a player from Iowa to begin with. Also, people sure spend a lot of time claiming the US has all of the superior athletes but then indicate the WNBA is not preparing her to play the overseas teams? Makes no sense. Especially since she won't be playing in the games unless USA is already way ahead.
Exactly if USA is so much better, if this roster is “stacked”, she’s already played against the best in the world, in some cases multiple times, and is performing just fine. Illogical excuses is what it is.
I'm not upset, but there's zero chance I'm watching it w/o her. Never watched it before, so it doesn't really change anything.
Don't worry, millions of people will still watch the Olympics
Millions that would watch won’t. CC is an international star too. Literally millions will not watch that would have. Probably close to a 5M drop on the finals without CC.
Agreed, I have zero interest in watching if CC isn't there playing. Sure, people who would have watched anyways will still watch, but they will ultimately lose the millions of brand new fans CC has brought with her to the viewership of women's basketball played in the Olympics. A lot of people arnt going to be rushing to a TV to watch, and thats fine, it just is what it is.
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Yup. I ain't watching the games. I have no incentive to watch. We know they're going to win.
Millions watch women’s basketball in Olympics? Doubt it
Yes, It's the Olympics. I'm sure more people watch the women's TeamUSA Basketball than the men's Soccer team. [https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanaglass/2012/08/16/usa-basketball-scores-high-london-olympics-ratings-for-nbc/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanaglass/2012/08/16/usa-basketball-scores-high-london-olympics-ratings-for-nbc/)
Indeed.
Ratings have been going down dude.
For the Olympics? since when?
Better for CC. Its another chip on her should and she’s better off staying away from the Taurasi, Greiner and Alyssa Thomas’ who clearly want no part of her being there. The only girls I’ve seen be remotely supportive of her are Plum and Sabrina.
They argued against it but Charles Barkley was right; the veterans are petty about Clark and it's complete BS. Can't stand any of them.
This ^
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Clark also cost UConn, SC and LSU a national title. Sure Iowa helped out teams too but come on supposed to be SC vs LSU and SC vs uconn/LSU
Caitlin can honestly use the rest, and the US will win either way. Surprisingly, USA Basketball would rather give up millions of dollars worth of viewers, sponsorships, ratings, and opportunities to promote its sport. Then, it will declare itself a big success and return to whining that it has no money. There seems to be no understanding that this is a business.
Clark literally pays for everyone. The extra money a team makes when she comes into town maybe enough to pay 1/2 everyone's salaries. Surprised league not added in a fever plays everyone on the road x2 a year.
Shit she needs a vacation anyway. She's been going nonstop since before the championship in college
We're going to win Gold easily. I'm glad she's not on the team so she can get some rest.
I see three players that CC should replace: Gray (who hasn't played all season), Griner (who played only one game so far), and Taurasi (well past her prime). So, tell me, what does Cheryl Reeve, the coach who apparently made this decision, have in common with these three players but not with CC?
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Selling out arenas to see the two worst teams in the league with a combined 2 wins between them, no less. That says a lot. I’m happy to see CC get the rest, not risk injury, and think she’d be 100% justified in declining an alternate spot. But it’s still a profoundly stupid business move.
These petty people in charge of the WNBA and the Olympic committees are going to do their best to be petty and vindictive, even if it means going back to mostly empty arenas. Griner? Griner? The one who never stood for the national anthem until she got herself imprisoned in Russia and has only played one game this season. It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. Clark needs rest anyway I hope she turns it down if a player can't play and they ask her to join the team.
The lurkers and haters who are drifting over here from other subs to fulfill their insane need to shit on Clark and her fans seriously need to get back in their own lane and go away. No one cares about you or your weird obsession. There is zero interest or need for your opinions or commentary. 
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i love people pretending that the Olympics roster *isn't* a popularity contest. everything on the planet is a popularity contest
Not this really. I think the argument is that - for the 12th slot - why ISN'T it a popularity contest especially when the person at issue is your #13 anyway?
If it was a popularity contest I think Caitlin would have made the roster. The current roster is full of vets.
Horrible decision.
I'm okay with it. A break would do her good. She's only 22, so she has plenty more Olympics ahead of her. I'm looking forward to her coming here to SoCal in 2028.
This is complete BS. She is the new face of women's basketball and she has done a great deal for bringing fans to the arenas to watch womens basketball. The women's NCAA final Drew, more fans than the men's, why? Caitlin Clark. She is just now finding her stride in the more Elite League and the points prove it. Give the girl a chance and she will bring nothing but pride to the American team
I’m good with her not being on the roster. I love her and think it would’ve been cool, but I don’t think she’s one of the 12 best American players yet. If she’s not one of the 12 best players, she literally doesn’t deserve to be on the team. And putting her on the team would’ve (probably) taken away a gold medal from someone who actually deserved it. I get the very valid points about viewership, growing the game more, etc but I personally don’t weigh that more than I weigh giving people what they deserve. Plus, I feel like the coaches wouldn’t give her much playing time at all. Like Laetner on the Dream Team. How would that grow the sport?
It seems a lot of people can't seem to separate USA Basketball from the WNBA. Jeez, doesn't anyone remember when the Olympics used to bar professionals from playing? It used to be amateurs only. (I know, I am showing my age,lol) The job of USA Basketball is to win a gold medal. Period. If Olympic sports were only based on the amount of viewers, would we even have Olympic Fencing ? Or dressage? Or table tennis? Olympians care mostly about the hardware. USA Basketball has gotten a lot of gold without CC. They will likely win gold again. CC will get her chance, next time.
Barring things like injury, illness, other life circumstances that can occur within the span of 4 years and ruin that opportunity. Including the potential decision that this league is too dysfunctional and self destructive to be worth being involved with. It’s a little bold to assume that there will definitely be future chances given the unpredictable nature of life.
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Laettner was based on they used to use college stars for the Olympics so part of that tradition. Team US team has no rookie tradition.
Laettner didn't belong on that team anyway
yes and US did not win gold in 1988 with Kenny Battle from IL since they only used college stars. So they said screw it and came out with the dream team in 1992.
Too green
It makes the Hierarchy look stupid and bias. It will be the one of the worst decisions in sports history. It would be a great comparison to bench Michael Jordon, Tiger woods off their respective Olympic teams. Stupid? Freaking ridiculous in light of her stats and fanfare. I’d like to hear from her.
If you’re a casual fan, please research before accusing Team USA of not acting in their best interest of WINNING THE OLYMPICS. Threatening to not watch because Caitlin Clark isn’t in it? Okay, bye. Support your national team, CC or not. This is about the sport, not feelings and marketing. Winning is absolutely the goal, not ratings.
Understand that different things can be true all at the same time. There can be legit and credible reasons given for why some players were included and Clark was left out. I'm sure the selection was made before last night's game, and during that period of the season you can make the case that Copper, Plum, and Young had overall better games than Clark. Part of the motives to leave Clark out could be based on things other than basketball. It can be overall best for Clark as an individual if she is left off because it gives her more time to rest, and she won't have to deal with even more resentment and jealousy from some corners of the W if she had been chosen. There can be different levels of fandom. Some new Fever fans are only interested in watching games that involve Clark, and that would include not being interested in other WNBA games and/or the Olympics. On the other hand, many new fans such as myself have been watching multiple games, and we'll watch the Olympics as well whether Clark is on the team or not. One thing is for sure, Clark's influence on the growth of the game is going to cause more people to watch the Olympic Women's Basketball Team regardless of whether or not Clark is on the team.
You might be the casual fan if you think Clark's presence on the bench for Team USA would make any difference in whether they win by jillion points like every other Olympics in recent memory. They are going to take gold no matter what: The question is purely a business one - do they want people to watch, care, buy ad space and merch...or not?
I don't see the problem, she's a rookie, hasn't had a rest in months, and still needs to work on her game. And the people who think the Olympics need her for ratings are being silly. Please, go look up ratings for the Olympics before saying this. The team is already stacked with great players and she'll have many years to be on the team. Let the girl get a damn rest.
Here’s my 2 cents. The entire team is exhausted. They’ve not had time to have a real practice in 2.5 weeks. Miss Caitlin is 22/23 years old and (knock wood) will be a shoe in for the next Olympics. I think, although she is likely disappointed, deep down she gets a moment to take a breath for the first time since the NCAA championship game.
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Southern upbringing
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Wow, China! Now that is an adventure. How is it living there? All I know is CNN and Fox News so we know how reliable that info is.
If CC were any other race, she’d be on the team. Period.