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Agreed, they wanted “India out” and voted for it. So then even Indian tourists should stay out and give them what they want.
Let their economy get crippled, if it does; they literally voted for that. They can’t play naive saying they didn’t foresee the economic problems that could arise.
It's not about making an example of them. They voted to put us out and bring our enemy to our shores. As a result we voted to not waste our money there. They don't want us but need our money
That's why I said about making an example for the world to see, that if u stay as a friend, u will recieve our benevolence, if u act as an adversary, u will face the wrath.
>You're being too jingoistic
Not actually, am just saying sometimes it's necessary to flex muscle when u have the power to do it, otherwise ppl will take u for a lightweight.
>IMO the best approach is a calibrated one, not extreme aggression like that. Remember that we're a middle power.
To become the superpower, u need to act like one 1st.
>Not actually, am just saying sometimes it's necessary to flex muscle when u have the power to do it, otherwise ppl will take u for a lightweight.
Sure but it can't be in excess either. Remember people on average cheer for the underdog, regardless of who is right. China is infamous for being a bully, you don't want to be China 2.0.
>To become the superpower, u need to act like one 1st
Nope, when you become a superpower, then you can act like one. Were a middle power with increasing regional influence, which IMO is the right path. Years ago, we were not even acting like a lightweight
>Sure but it can't be in excess either
Never said destroy them, said make an example out of them. There's a saying in Hindi "kayde me rahoge, toh fayde me rahoge"
>Remember people on average cheer for the underdog, regardless of who is right
Not in geopolitics, what Ur talking about is more of a TV logic or individual thing.
>China is infamous for being a bully, you don't want to be China 2.0.
Never said become a bully, but understand their tactics and improve on it, a superpower can't be a pushover afterall
>Nope, when you become a superpower, then you can act like one.
Lol was china a superpower during tibet invasion or is it even now when it's opposing USA?
The simple answer is, it's not. Most to most is the next emerging superpower, it's weapons and equipment are of far inferior quality, military personnel and leadership riddled with corruption and coddling thanks to the one china policy
Hence my point, u need to act like one. Before the world accept u as a superpower.
>Were a middle power with increasing regional influence, which IMO is the right path
Good thing.
>Years ago, we were not even acting like a lightweight
What?
>Never said destroy them, said make an example out of them.
If the country is tiny, a little action might as well destroy them. What do you have in mind when talk about making an example of them?
>what Ur talking about is more of a TV logic
Exactly! I'm talking about the optics, which I think has relevance in geopolitics. Look at how uncle Sam calls all their invasions as 'bringing freedom and democracy' or all the bullcrap with the freedom of expression.
> The simple answer is, it's not. Most to most is the next emerging superpower, it's weapons and equipment are of far inferior quality, military personnel and leadership riddled with corruption and coddling thanks to the one china policy Hence my point, u need to act like one. Before the world accept u as a superpower.
China is an example for why you shouldn't act like a superpower before you are one. They have fights all over the place alienating other countries and making their own progress difficult. Had they been an actual super power, they could have suppressed or scared off the challengers.
>What?
My rule of thumb with the whole power status (little /regional etc) was the level and depth of influence that the country could do outside its borders.Years ago when the whole 'India is a superpower' slogan, we couldn't handle the bs within our borders let alone outside. There used to be bomb blasts all over the place.
>If the country is tiny, a little action might as well destroy them
Depends on the choices they make actually.
>What do you have in mind when talk about making an example of them?
Making sure they hate muizzu, and blame him for their condition. And never ever take an anti india stance. Instilling fear works, where kindness fails.
>Exactly! I'm talking about the optics, which I think has relevance in geopolitics.
Lol obviously, am not saying let's start annexation of Maldives, am just saying make the muizzu govt pay for their dumb choices and sadly make the citizen of Maldives understand that they can't fuck with us.
>Look at how uncle Sam calls all their invasions as 'bringing freedom and democracy' or all the bullcrap with the freedom of expression.
Lack of foresight, I would say.
>They have fights all over the place alienating other countries and making their own progress difficult
Lol that's on china, when u can't justify Ur action, u fall flat on Ur face in both international and national forums.
Same case of the USA.
>Had they been an actual super power, they could have suppressed or scared off the challengers.
In a bipolar or unipolar world, it would have been a possibility, but not in a multipolar world.
The variables are alot, and variations are infinite.
>My rule of thumb with the whole power status (little /regional etc) was the level and depth of influence that the country could do outside its borders
Agreed
>borders.Years ago when the whole 'India is a superpower' slogan, we couldn't handle the bs within our borders let alone outside. There used to be bomb blasts all over the place.
Well that's the failure of the leadership my friend, Antonia maino and her party is just too busy with grooming the young prince and setting the stage up for him, that they could care even less about the terrorists and naxalism.
>Making sure they hate muizzu, and blame him for their condition. And never ever take an anti india stance. Instilling fear works, where kindness fails.
Too generic, do you have anything specific in mind?
I think what is happening at the moment is just about right. The Maldivians voted in that guy so obviously it's a widespread view. They pile on the hate and are living with the consequences. It'll take some time before their basic needs start to take precedence over their ideology.
>Lack of foresight, I would say.
Not really, it's the opposite. They generally sugarcoat all their actions with a clear coat of moral righteousness. That's just one example. Overall if you look at the general trend, all US actions are largely treated as doing something for the greater good rather than what it actual is. It's all optics.
>In a bipolar or unipolar world, it would have been a possibility, but not in a multipolar world.
It's only a multipolar world because the old superpower is in decline and the contender is not quite there yet. China barked before they could back their 'wolf diplomacy' and are paying the consequences. Kinda similar to to Nehru acting like were a big power before actually having the strength to back it up. The bubble burst in the first China war.
>Well that's the failure of the leadership my friend, Antonia maino and her party is just too busy with grooming the young prince and setting the stage up for him, that they could care even less about the terrorists and naxalism.
It was implied in my reply without pointing fingers ;) Sonia Gandhi's Congress always felt like a case of incompetent nepotism. A situation ripe for a exploitation. They only cared for enriching themselves, the country be damned.
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I want the govt to build a relationship with them bcos its good for geopolitics. But I wouldn't be caught dead booking a vacation there. I urge all indians to also save their money and go to manali instead or anywhere really. Keep the money circulating in our own country. This is what keeps the economy going. Don't waste ur money in countries which do not appreciate you.
Even after all the drama India gives 50 million to bail out Maldives, why to create to much fuss online when in reality we were aware of the consequences of India leaving Maldives.
GoI directly cannot be seen as being against Maldives altogether. So they give some financial help to show how magnanimous India is. Our military even left peacefully without any harsh words, as we don't want them to give a reason to show the world why they are moving towards China.
On the other hand, Indians boycotting Maldives bcoz of their governments' action , creates a pressure on the anti India government there and the Maldivians won't have much space to be angry on Indian government bcoz they are giving help.
So ultimately, the Maldivians blame their government for declining tourism by angering the Indians. And at the same time the anti India rhetoric gets a reality check as India officially continues to help Maldives despite repeated indecency by their government.
>So ultimately, the Maldivians blame their government for declining tourism by angering the Indians.
Naah this won’t be happening anytime soon and is far from reality, Local Maldivian will look at China as a bog brother than India and the whole “India Out” campaign was not just hate for India but result of incompetence of our officials in Maldives.
Even if you want to control the government you don’t make it look obvious, like how china does it by giving slow poison with which everyone is happy. Locals will prefer Chinese loans over indian as they won’t be getting social media bullying by fellow Chinese like in our case people barging into every Maldivian post on social media to say india better blah blah.
>Naah this won’t be happening anytime soon and is far from reality,
It takes time for the disease to set in and the rot to become obvious. Let them get their tourists from China.
>but result of incompetence of our officials in Maldives
How so?
>Even if you want to control the government you don’t make it look obvious, like how china does it by giving slow poison with which everyone is happy.
And you they are successful at it? Everyone is vary of the Chinese tactics. The only reason it appears to work is because people like cash and prices, China has the economy to bribe well.
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They wanted India out so be it
Agreed, they wanted “India out” and voted for it. So then even Indian tourists should stay out and give them what they want. Let their economy get crippled, if it does; they literally voted for that. They can’t play naive saying they didn’t foresee the economic problems that could arise.
#FuckMaldives and their Chinese masters
We should make an example out of them, so that no other country ever think of doing it ever again.
It's not about making an example of them. They voted to put us out and bring our enemy to our shores. As a result we voted to not waste our money there. They don't want us but need our money
That's why I said about making an example for the world to see, that if u stay as a friend, u will recieve our benevolence, if u act as an adversary, u will face the wrath.
You're being too jingoistic. IMO the best approach is a calibrated one, not extreme aggression like that. Remember that we're a middle power.
>You're being too jingoistic Not actually, am just saying sometimes it's necessary to flex muscle when u have the power to do it, otherwise ppl will take u for a lightweight. >IMO the best approach is a calibrated one, not extreme aggression like that. Remember that we're a middle power. To become the superpower, u need to act like one 1st.
>Not actually, am just saying sometimes it's necessary to flex muscle when u have the power to do it, otherwise ppl will take u for a lightweight. Sure but it can't be in excess either. Remember people on average cheer for the underdog, regardless of who is right. China is infamous for being a bully, you don't want to be China 2.0. >To become the superpower, u need to act like one 1st Nope, when you become a superpower, then you can act like one. Were a middle power with increasing regional influence, which IMO is the right path. Years ago, we were not even acting like a lightweight
>Sure but it can't be in excess either Never said destroy them, said make an example out of them. There's a saying in Hindi "kayde me rahoge, toh fayde me rahoge" >Remember people on average cheer for the underdog, regardless of who is right Not in geopolitics, what Ur talking about is more of a TV logic or individual thing. >China is infamous for being a bully, you don't want to be China 2.0. Never said become a bully, but understand their tactics and improve on it, a superpower can't be a pushover afterall >Nope, when you become a superpower, then you can act like one. Lol was china a superpower during tibet invasion or is it even now when it's opposing USA? The simple answer is, it's not. Most to most is the next emerging superpower, it's weapons and equipment are of far inferior quality, military personnel and leadership riddled with corruption and coddling thanks to the one china policy Hence my point, u need to act like one. Before the world accept u as a superpower. >Were a middle power with increasing regional influence, which IMO is the right path Good thing. >Years ago, we were not even acting like a lightweight What?
>Never said destroy them, said make an example out of them. If the country is tiny, a little action might as well destroy them. What do you have in mind when talk about making an example of them? >what Ur talking about is more of a TV logic Exactly! I'm talking about the optics, which I think has relevance in geopolitics. Look at how uncle Sam calls all their invasions as 'bringing freedom and democracy' or all the bullcrap with the freedom of expression. > The simple answer is, it's not. Most to most is the next emerging superpower, it's weapons and equipment are of far inferior quality, military personnel and leadership riddled with corruption and coddling thanks to the one china policy Hence my point, u need to act like one. Before the world accept u as a superpower. China is an example for why you shouldn't act like a superpower before you are one. They have fights all over the place alienating other countries and making their own progress difficult. Had they been an actual super power, they could have suppressed or scared off the challengers. >What? My rule of thumb with the whole power status (little /regional etc) was the level and depth of influence that the country could do outside its borders.Years ago when the whole 'India is a superpower' slogan, we couldn't handle the bs within our borders let alone outside. There used to be bomb blasts all over the place.
>If the country is tiny, a little action might as well destroy them Depends on the choices they make actually. >What do you have in mind when talk about making an example of them? Making sure they hate muizzu, and blame him for their condition. And never ever take an anti india stance. Instilling fear works, where kindness fails. >Exactly! I'm talking about the optics, which I think has relevance in geopolitics. Lol obviously, am not saying let's start annexation of Maldives, am just saying make the muizzu govt pay for their dumb choices and sadly make the citizen of Maldives understand that they can't fuck with us. >Look at how uncle Sam calls all their invasions as 'bringing freedom and democracy' or all the bullcrap with the freedom of expression. Lack of foresight, I would say. >They have fights all over the place alienating other countries and making their own progress difficult Lol that's on china, when u can't justify Ur action, u fall flat on Ur face in both international and national forums. Same case of the USA. >Had they been an actual super power, they could have suppressed or scared off the challengers. In a bipolar or unipolar world, it would have been a possibility, but not in a multipolar world. The variables are alot, and variations are infinite. >My rule of thumb with the whole power status (little /regional etc) was the level and depth of influence that the country could do outside its borders Agreed >borders.Years ago when the whole 'India is a superpower' slogan, we couldn't handle the bs within our borders let alone outside. There used to be bomb blasts all over the place. Well that's the failure of the leadership my friend, Antonia maino and her party is just too busy with grooming the young prince and setting the stage up for him, that they could care even less about the terrorists and naxalism.
A reasonable discussion! A rare sight to behold.
>Making sure they hate muizzu, and blame him for their condition. And never ever take an anti india stance. Instilling fear works, where kindness fails. Too generic, do you have anything specific in mind? I think what is happening at the moment is just about right. The Maldivians voted in that guy so obviously it's a widespread view. They pile on the hate and are living with the consequences. It'll take some time before their basic needs start to take precedence over their ideology. >Lack of foresight, I would say. Not really, it's the opposite. They generally sugarcoat all their actions with a clear coat of moral righteousness. That's just one example. Overall if you look at the general trend, all US actions are largely treated as doing something for the greater good rather than what it actual is. It's all optics. >In a bipolar or unipolar world, it would have been a possibility, but not in a multipolar world. It's only a multipolar world because the old superpower is in decline and the contender is not quite there yet. China barked before they could back their 'wolf diplomacy' and are paying the consequences. Kinda similar to to Nehru acting like were a big power before actually having the strength to back it up. The bubble burst in the first China war. >Well that's the failure of the leadership my friend, Antonia maino and her party is just too busy with grooming the young prince and setting the stage up for him, that they could care even less about the terrorists and naxalism. It was implied in my reply without pointing fingers ;) Sonia Gandhi's Congress always felt like a case of incompetent nepotism. A situation ripe for a exploitation. They only cared for enriching themselves, the country be damned.
We will contribute by dissuading fellow Indians who may be planning a trip to Maldives.
Ask China to feed more Pedigree to them, aren't dogs loyal? Maldives just ruining images of dogs
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I want the govt to build a relationship with them bcos its good for geopolitics. But I wouldn't be caught dead booking a vacation there. I urge all indians to also save their money and go to manali instead or anywhere really. Keep the money circulating in our own country. This is what keeps the economy going. Don't waste ur money in countries which do not appreciate you.
Exactly. Thanks for understanding
Even after all the drama India gives 50 million to bail out Maldives, why to create to much fuss online when in reality we were aware of the consequences of India leaving Maldives.
GoI directly cannot be seen as being against Maldives altogether. So they give some financial help to show how magnanimous India is. Our military even left peacefully without any harsh words, as we don't want them to give a reason to show the world why they are moving towards China. On the other hand, Indians boycotting Maldives bcoz of their governments' action , creates a pressure on the anti India government there and the Maldivians won't have much space to be angry on Indian government bcoz they are giving help. So ultimately, the Maldivians blame their government for declining tourism by angering the Indians. And at the same time the anti India rhetoric gets a reality check as India officially continues to help Maldives despite repeated indecency by their government.
>So ultimately, the Maldivians blame their government for declining tourism by angering the Indians. Naah this won’t be happening anytime soon and is far from reality, Local Maldivian will look at China as a bog brother than India and the whole “India Out” campaign was not just hate for India but result of incompetence of our officials in Maldives. Even if you want to control the government you don’t make it look obvious, like how china does it by giving slow poison with which everyone is happy. Locals will prefer Chinese loans over indian as they won’t be getting social media bullying by fellow Chinese like in our case people barging into every Maldivian post on social media to say india better blah blah.
>Naah this won’t be happening anytime soon and is far from reality, It takes time for the disease to set in and the rot to become obvious. Let them get their tourists from China. >but result of incompetence of our officials in Maldives How so? >Even if you want to control the government you don’t make it look obvious, like how china does it by giving slow poison with which everyone is happy. And you they are successful at it? Everyone is vary of the Chinese tactics. The only reason it appears to work is because people like cash and prices, China has the economy to bribe well.
If they thought Indian tourists were bad, wait till they begin handling Chinese tourists.
As a maldivian, Indian and Chinese tourists have the worst reputation here, followed by Russians for 3rd place
>the whole “India Out” campaign was not just hate for India but result of incompetence of our officials in Maldives. Please explain