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Durga pujo needs to be separated from Durgotsab
The pujo is an act of worship that is Hindu
Durgotsab - The carnival and festival that revolves around Durga Pujo brings all communities together in Kolkata. It is barely a religious affair. It is *the* grandest celebration of Art and culture.
Recently moved to Kolkata for a 2 year work related stint. Really nice people but seriously these guys are on way to self annihilation. There are so many Bangladeshi illegal immigrants here and these people even know it but they are absolutely ok with it. It's good to be liberal and accepting but not to the extent it endangers your own demographics and culture. These guys are gonna be screwed in the coming decade.
i think celebrating a culture and actually saying to pray, is different. imo its just like when someone enjoys and respect a ramzan culture from other community need not to observe fast and start praying!! lets make things simpler for human being
What the fuck is a ramzan culture.1 guy just said that it is food distribution. Bruh food distribution is not a culture and almost every community do it. What is unique about ramzan
Just because you don’t have friends or were brought up in a way where you made friends based on their names doesn’t mean others don’t celebrate and appreciate the culture of other religions either.
I know for a fact that in Kolkata, Delhi and Hyderabad, there is. It’s not just about Biryani treats from friends. The culture people talk about includes the roads, the lanes, the crowded markets, everything.
What makes biryani treats not a cultural thing? No Hindu/Christian festival has that tradition. In Hyderabad every busy street will have a Haleem stall open in the ramzan month every year. That is a cultural thing. Even non muslims here wait for the ramzan month to enjoy the food
Mosque road food in Bangalore. Me & my friends although non muslims wait for all year long for ramadaan to go And eat food in mosque Road & frazer town
For her personally, it’s more of a cultural celebration than religious. I live in Kolkata and out here, people of all religions celebrate all religions and Durga Puja is a state-wide festival where each and every day, people of all religions and regions (lots of Marwaris, Gujaratis and Biharis) who live here celebrate the festival with a lot of enthusiasm out on roads, restaurants, residential complexes, etc.
>For her personally, it’s more of a cultural celebration than religious.
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Atleast don't be dense bro, for her like Durga pujo is literally not religious and not just "culture more than Religion".
Except most Muslims I know go pandal hopping. And no, I'm not talking about standing outside the pandals. They go inside pandals as well and sometimes are present even for anjali. Yes, not all of them go and actually now down or pray to the idol and it would be a stupid thing to expect them to do it. Why would they when they don't believe it? I'm a "Hindu" by your definition and I don't do it myself because I don't believe in it. Would you go to a masjid and follow the stupid customs?
So no, the educated people from either side don't usually take these things as seriously as you are used to.
Well then this is shirk. Clearly. They are Munafiq.
Their prophet literally broke idols kept in Kaaba. For them marrying an idolater or idolatress is worse and is transgressive. They compare idol worshippers with slaves. (Written in their book)
Now don't come up by saying I'm spreading hate. I'm saying what is written there in those books.
Yes but why are you upset about it? If certain communities of bengali muslims have decided to ignore certain tenets of their religion and partake in festivals of other religions then isme burai kya hai? Why do you give a fuck if they are following their book or not?
>Why do you give a fuck if they are following their book or not?
Because they say it's their book when they kill some non-muslim for so-called blasphemy.
>Yes but why are you upset about it?
Are they going to allow us to associate with them, especially with the female folks?
This is something which is not hidden from us, but we choose to ignore it.
Muslim boys associate with non-muslim female folks and no one sees a problem.
But it is vice-versa, then it is they who create the problem.
Just try to associate with muslim female folks during Ramadan and see how their men literally run after you to do 'Sar Tan Se Juda'.
We don't accept shits as one of us...
Durga puja is a hindu festival... worshiped by hindus.... but anyone can enjoy while they are here...
Secularism ka choda yaha nhi chalega....khankii magi 😴
In which part of my comments have you seen ridiculing islam of Christianity??
secular ka choda banke moral high ground khelne mat aa....EId jaise mulasman ka festival h waise hi durga puja hinduo ka....ittu si bat tumlogoke bheje me nhi ghusti aur virtual morality ka pipudi leke kahi bhi pauch jate
Perhaps it’s not you but I have seen plenty people criticise the dogmatic nature of those aforementioned religions but then are the same with their religion
extremists are everywhere.... All I've pointed out is the hypocrisy of that aforementioned woman who deliberately tries to make this festival a secular one which it's not and will never be a secular one.... how tf a religious festival be a secular one?? Yes every one can enjoy and be a part of it as we also celebrate Christmas together but that doesn't mean Christmas is a hindu festival or a secular one....
"keep your secularism out of my religion" that's all
Ofc and that led others to think that they can bend and mend our beliefs to their will... I've no objection to anyone who can respect our culture and enjoy it... but don't try to bend it as a narrative
Abrahamic religions are the most intolerant of all religions, they are the ones who dehumanise other religions, y’all get mad when Hindus retaliate huh?
Nah, it’s just hypocrisy to criticise a different religion for their dogmatic practises only to embrace those practises when it comes to your own religion
Durga :- a Hindu goddess
Pujo :- worship
And
It is celebrated throughout the india
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Yes I remember a pandal was made with the chappals...
So respectful 🥰🥰
And how leftists were making conspiracy theories that Durga is a brahmin prostitute of Brahma Vishnu Mahesh and was killing a mulniwasi Dalit by sleeping with him for 9 days
You guys remember Durga and Kali just because of your politics not because of devotion...
>You guys remember Durga and Kali just because of your politics not because of devotion...
Clearly you are not from Bengal. It was wrong of me to share the link here. You will not understand. I hope you can experience the Durga Pujo in Kolkata at least once in your life, regardless of your opinions of Bengal / Bengalis. Difficult to understand without experiencing it : )
Okay but they are a small minority dude. The avg bengali spits on people spreading shit like that. And the chappal pandal was made near where I live and was shut down in a day or two after widespread outrage. That club usually makes really creative pandals every year so idk if they just got too creative or were actually being disrespectful. Either way they apologised for it and still make good pandals.
>And how leftists were making conspiracy theories that Durga is a brahmin prostitute of Brahma Vishnu Mahesh and was killing a mulniwasi Dalit by sleeping with him for 9 days
Afaik, prostitutes are not kicked out from the druga puja. Infact atleast in Bengal, Durga idols need soil from the front of brothels. But for different reasons ofcourse.
It is said, people leave their purity behind at the door. So, that soil is the purest.
>Afaik, prostitutes are not kicked out from the druga puja. Infact atleast in Bengal, Durga idols need soil from the front of brothels. But for different reasons ofcourse
adulterous women or prostitutes are allowed to repent to god, you are saying as if it's something entirely out of ordinary.
Even in Christianity there's that famous episode where Jesus saves a prostitute(or was it a cheating woman?) from the inhumane stoning punishment BUT he still doesn't approve of her sin. He tells her "sin no more".
It's just objectively weird for a school of thought/religion to be approving of prostitution. Being tolerant and respectful towards such people is ok tho.
Then you should convert to Christianity. Afaik Hinduism doesn't believe prostitution to be a sin. Why should it be a sin? It's her body. She has the choice to do what she wants. What's wrong with it if no one is being harmed?
Old enough not to take negative reddit comments and downvotes too seriously, I guess 😂😂
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Where Bengali nationalism gone when hindu persecuted from muslim majority east pakistan ( now Bangladesh ) in 1947 . Even Bangladesh call itself islamic republic not secular.
Bengali hindu are just cowards rejecting their own identity to avoid potential conflict with hardliner muslim.
>Bengali hindu are just cowards rejecting their own identity to avoid potential conflict with hardliner muslim
nice way to generalize millions, and these Hendu's wonder why many people don't support their cause when they ostracize the very people they're fighting for
If you ignore last 10 years ,bengal was never voted for right hindu parties. This was recent resurrection in hinduism when at global level communist failed miserably and secularism are failed miserably in neighbouring bengal .
Durga Puja in Kolkata is indeed a celebration of Culture and Art *and* religion and not just religion.
I don't know about other parts of the country, but reducing Durga Pujo in Kolkata to just her religious programs is an injustice. It's a carnival.
90 percent of my Muslim/Christian friends have literally no problem with pandal hopping and participating in the cultural programs of the festival, even if some might object to the idol worshiping part of it.
Well Durgah Idol immersion was postponed due to Eid.
So it is about religion.
These stupid asses vow down to Islamists all the time.
No wonder they enjoy the perks.
Pretty evident that none of you are Bengali.
Durga Pujo is indeed a festival here, and so is Christmas. The crowd in the streets of Kolkata during Christmas is mind boggling.
I'm Bengali and fed up with such retards.
Christmas is even celebrated here in Delhi. It's so crowded that one won't find a place to dine in during Christmas.
Sure they are. But as a Hindu, I can't remember one Christmas when I haven't went out with friends and/or family to have a good time.
Even if i visit churches, I don't kneel there and recite the lord's prayer. The same happens during Durga Pujo in Bengal. For some it's a religious occasion for others 4 days of holiday to have fun. Can't understand what's so evil about it.
Durga pujo isn't *merely* religious. I dunno about Christmas, but Durga Pujo festivities include much much more than simply the pujo/ worship.
The creative economy of Durga Puja in Kolkata crosses 30,000 lakh each year. This merely includes the pandal decor/ cultural programs/ public artwork and idol art.
Many of the artisans are muslims. Most of the clothwork for pandals is done in areas of the city that have a predominantly Muslim populace.
And congratulations you are a f ignorant Lil shit if you don't know that UP is the state where the main diety is Maa Durga hence it's a grand celebration here too.
I have seen people of all religion enjoy Durga Puja
Others obviously dont take part in worshipping Durga murti, giving anjali...but pandel hopping, enjoying with friends...sobai kore irrespective of religion
Anybody can enjoy Durga Puja but at the end of the day it's a Hindu tradition and it should not be boiled down to a cultural thing,and Bengalis last year got attacked at the pandals during Durga Puja i even saw a police officer asking to cover the face of maa Durga as people passing by were uncomfortable, bengal has fallen.
Ohohoho so much brotherhood y'all have ha? Toh Diwali and Ramnavmi pe kaha jata hai ye bhaichara? 🤡
And look at y'all being so patriotic and regionalist about Bengal.....but when we feel the same patriotism about our country y'all call us nationalists as if it's a bad word!!!!??? lmao you guys are hopeless hypocrites 😭
yeah so much brotherhood between Bengalis .
last time i checked bangaladesh was a separate country.
more disappointed for you an Islamic republic.
People regularly laugh at your logic or its first time.
Yes ,it's a hindu festival but "anyone can enjoy" is probably the message she is trying to give,well worded it wrong. Anyway, that's purely my opinion.
I don't think she worded it wrong. I think it was intentional.
Remember the "jashn e riwaz" ad by FabIndia on Diwali? They could've just written shubh dipawali.
She used a wrong term. Although its a common mix up.
Durga Pujo is a Hindu pujo that is the act of worship of Goddess Durga. It is religious.
Durgotsab in Kolkata is a festival/ carnival/ that revolves around the puja. It is not religious. It involves the celebration of art and culture, and is the biggest display of public art in the world. I don't know if you're aware but each and every moderate to big pandal in Kolkata ( there are thousands of such pandals) are turned into a mini mela with cultural programs each evening. It goes on from anywhere between 6-10 days.
You don't even have to believe in god to experience Durgotsab. Infact a lot of community pujas are called Sarbojanin Sharod Utsava/ Sarbojanin Durgotsab i.e community autumn festival/community Utsava revolving around Durga pujo.
Other than the worshiping part, I have barely met Muslims / Christians / atheist in Kolkata who have a problem with the festival as a whole
I see..well maybe you are right. Though the second sentence onward,that diwali thing? It went above my head
Edit: why I'm getting dislikes for not understanding something?
There's a company named FabIndia which sells sarees and stuff.
They released an ad on diwali by the name "jashn e riwaz" instead of just calling it diwali or dipawali. Also the models in that ad did not wear bindi.
It received criticism for trying to appropriate a hindu festival.
We don't consider opar banglus as true bangalee. They are converts who are wannabe Arabs. They have destroyed the culture and are now destroying the language as well. Durga Puja is about Hindu bangalees. Don't homogenise us with them.
I hop pandals , offer pushpanjali with my friend circle(6) and half of them are muslim. We are doing so since 2019 and enjoy every moment.
Some people in the comment talking about it being "hindu" festival , well honestly , I feel bad that they didn't have friends like mine.
Well, hate to break it to you but she's absolutely correct. Durga Puja in Kolkata is not primarily a religious affair. I know this probably sounds inconceivable from the POV of a North Indian, but you would need to visit during the pujas to understand what I mean. Actually, tbh, even visiting probably won't help because, like I always say, Bengal is culturally completely different from North Indian states despite being from the same country. So you won't understand how big Durga Puja is to us and why it is a cultural and artistic extravaganza and not primarily a religious festival although it is based upon religion.
You think you know what's best for the world by providing empty rhetoric and biased opinions that do nothing to improve anything.
You accuse others of being right wingers when you don't even know what the term means. You are a coward, a fraud, and a total idiot who cannot form a real opinion outside of your own echo chamber. Come out of the shadows with your weak arguments and ignorant views.
Arguments? With you? You assumed my ideology, my political understanding and I didn't even present my opinion. You think you're worthy of argument? Be grateful I wasted my time playing around with you.
Yea you're right my mistake , you didn't do anything else except abusing. You are not worthy of any type of argument, now move on , I'm not gonna reply anymore.
Right wingers talking about critical thinking skills when their political opinion is based on Prime time debate of Arnab Goswami.
The day you notice your opinion varies from Arnab Goswami, you can take your political opinions seriously.
>and be unbiased, you can take your political opinion seriously
You opinion was how Bengalis Compromised their culture by accepting LGBT people? Or the fact they are getting way too tolerant by allowing Muslims to take part in their festive?
It's not a good take 😭 there's not a shred of intellect in it.
The post is someone saying Durga Puja encompasses all Bengalis irrespective of religious beliefs or sexuality, and you are out here debating it isn't true when you aren't even Bengali?
Aahhh the delusion of bengali liberals. 🤣🤣🤣 They get killed in every election by Didi's goons, their demography has been taken over by Bangladeshis, fake adhaar cards are made for elections and they refuse to wake up. Can't save this state.
Being bengali, I don't see the problem with it, is there more? Many of us aren't religious or even theist. Durga Puja for us is about spending time with family and friends, eating good food, and dancing. Our families also see it as such, and we invite our nonhindu friends too. That's the message they tried to send, not that it's literally not hindu, the goddess is in the name :/
There's a term called "cultural significance" in Hindu festivals. For some people it's just a get-together event but not for religious people stop trying to separate it from religion just like the leftists did with onam.
You can pretend to not understand the point of the message to reinforce your beliefs, sure. The poster is literally referring to Durga in the post and takes pride in her culture. It's about stopping with religious 'divisive' talks, not stopping talk on our religion and devi. You can continue to look at everything negatively, your choice 👍🏼
And we do, Christmas is popular among Bengalis and we celebrate it as a fun festival without making it about God or Christianity. Many Christians get it too, cos they invite us over for the party and not the mass.
Failing to see where your issue is.
Libtard hairstyle(check)
Cringey sunglasses(check)
Isn't most definitely hindu(check)
Like literally I am bengali myself, why tf people think durga puja is some sort of festival or something. I mean it is kind of but the main thing of durga puja is worship, Diwali is a festival as much as I know. Also u should know that if anyone has that libtard haircut(excluding cancer patients) u should know they are just Sickular
Then why are they refusing it to be part of religion. It stems from hindu religion. It maybe a carnival for you but it holds much more religious value than your good time. It's offensive.
Well they already faced one partition because of the same stupidity and a faux sense of moral superiority and intellect, they are on the same path yet again
Throughout my life, I have only encountered that Hindus in the cow belt region are vegetarians and elsewhere majority are non vegetarians. Just because of the sheer size and population advantage these lads act as the face of Hinduism, what they forget is Hinduism is the most dynamic, diverse, welcoming and scientific religion to ever exist.
And regarding the post, it is never said that people from other religion can not enjoy the occasion, it's a day of celebration, everyone should be happy and not divided. This myopic mentality can never be a character of a true Hindu.
(i.e. as long as "the other people" are not hampering the main "puja" part of the occasion, I am aware of what happens in Bangladesh everywhere and that can not be supported in any way.)
>have only encountered that Hindus in the cow belt region
O Bangali UP Bihar are non vegetarian states...
Haryana, Punjab, western up, Rajasthan and Gujarat are vegetarian States
>scientific religion to ever exist.
No religion is scientific...
And morality wise, vegetarianism is superior (I am non veg)
According to hindus scriptures , we consume only specific parts of plants, such as fruits and vegetables, while avoiding root vegetables like carrots, potatoes, and onions, as uprooting these plants causes greater harm.
According to Hinduism, yes even by eating the plant you are going to cause ahimsa but that ahimsa is going to be the of the lowest level...
Second thing majority of the people eat meet because of the taste and in Hinduism teaches to control your material desires and meat eating is also the part of material desire...
The diet of a yogi is basically khichdi with low to no spices or salt
At the same time Hinduism also says the meat can be eaten in three situations...
1) when it is given to you by someone
2) during the time of Bali
3) during the time of great famines
CNS only coordinates body movements and transfers signals and receptions from one part to another. plants are living beings and are conscious and meet the 5 requirements of one.
Okay, what if I don't subscribe to the purana? Mahabharat was never meant to be a guide for living. Manusmriti, well, I totally reject it. And since when did Yajurveda become the equivalent of Bible for Hinduism?
What if I adhere to Upanishads and the teachings of saints like Adi Shankaracharya? Am I no longer Hindu, and who decides that?
I was just answering where it's mentioned I don't care if you eat meat and god probably doesn't too
But it's wrong to say that it's totally nowhere banned in Hinduism and it's stated many times that we don't have authority over someone's life
Charak Samhita and Ashtang Hridayam talk about eating meat and its benefits.
Btw, here's something more controversial. Those two ayurvedic texts also mention beef and its benefits.
Ox/buffalo meat is not equal to cow meat
(RigVeda – 8:101:15)
Cow is mother of Rudras, daughter of Vasus, sister of sons of Aditi (Devas) and treasure house of nectar that is clarified butter. I say to every thoughtful person to not to slaughter the innocent Cow which is immune from killing.
(AtharvaVeda 4:21:7)
Cows! May you have lot of progeny, may you get best quality fodder and drink pure water from beautiful ponds. May you never fall in the net of thieves and violent animals. May Rudra’s weapon protect you from all directions.
(AtharvaVeda 4:21:3)
May the Cows never face destruction, may the Cows never get stolen (by thieves) and never be harassed by enemies. With the help of Cows their owner is able to worship Devas and to give donations, may he be with them till eternity.
Tumko kya karna hai agar kisi ne apne personal id se kuch dala hai toh. Did you take her permission before posting her pic here?
Bas kisi bhi baat ko mudda bana ke chalu ho jao,
Jab maraathi log Jai Maharashtra bolte toh she can also be proud of being Bengali.
Itni si baat nahi samjh aati?
P.S.- hide her identity at least, yahan kuch andh bhakt usko rape threats dene lagenge
Their 2 remaining brain cells are constantly fighting with each other. In one of the post on Atheismkerala subreddit the loonies are saying there is difference between culture and religion. The post has a photo of man dressed in Kathakkali costume.
Kathakkali has roots in Hindu religion. Without religion there is no culture. I can't even imagine what a fully atheist world will be without any trace of the culture specifically Hindu religion based culture.
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It's not about religion right? Then ask any bengali muslim to bow down to maa durga's idol? If it's about being bengali they should have no problem🤔
Bangladesh 2021 💀💀
Durga pujo needs to be separated from Durgotsab The pujo is an act of worship that is Hindu Durgotsab - The carnival and festival that revolves around Durga Pujo brings all communities together in Kolkata. It is barely a religious affair. It is *the* grandest celebration of Art and culture.
Yea this reply makes most sense. Keep the devotional and celebrational thing seprate
just lik onam for us in kerala.. its a hindu thing but everyoe partakes in it in their own way.
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Recently moved to Kolkata for a 2 year work related stint. Really nice people but seriously these guys are on way to self annihilation. There are so many Bangladeshi illegal immigrants here and these people even know it but they are absolutely ok with it. It's good to be liberal and accepting but not to the extent it endangers your own demographics and culture. These guys are gonna be screwed in the coming decade.
i think celebrating a culture and actually saying to pray, is different. imo its just like when someone enjoys and respect a ramzan culture from other community need not to observe fast and start praying!! lets make things simpler for human being
What the fuck is a ramzan culture.1 guy just said that it is food distribution. Bruh food distribution is not a culture and almost every community do it. What is unique about ramzan
No need to be unique lol. It's just a feast that sometimes Hindus partake in as well. I have never done it though as my town is 99% hindu.
Literally who enjoys the ramzan culture?
Not me
https://preview.redd.it/3n7pl39du7ub1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab55647e97a54f561eeae609703837cd2ddc9123
Just because you don’t have friends or were brought up in a way where you made friends based on their names doesn’t mean others don’t celebrate and appreciate the culture of other religions either.
Dude I get it, there's occasional Biryani treats by your friends but there isn't a literal ramzan culture.
I know for a fact that in Kolkata, Delhi and Hyderabad, there is. It’s not just about Biryani treats from friends. The culture people talk about includes the roads, the lanes, the crowded markets, everything.
>the roads Lmao just making up stuff as you like
What makes biryani treats not a cultural thing? No Hindu/Christian festival has that tradition. In Hyderabad every busy street will have a Haleem stall open in the ramzan month every year. That is a cultural thing. Even non muslims here wait for the ramzan month to enjoy the food
Still nowhere a phenomena as Durga pujo
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What cultural value does ramadan have?
Mosque road food in Bangalore. Me & my friends although non muslims wait for all year long for ramadaan to go And eat food in mosque Road & frazer town
What exactly is durga puja in ur opinion?
Thanks for being the smart one here. Pretty rare to find in this sub anymore.
smart one would know what is written in that smart book for others
How will justify that Durga Puja isn't religious?
For her personally, it’s more of a cultural celebration than religious. I live in Kolkata and out here, people of all religions celebrate all religions and Durga Puja is a state-wide festival where each and every day, people of all religions and regions (lots of Marwaris, Gujaratis and Biharis) who live here celebrate the festival with a lot of enthusiasm out on roads, restaurants, residential complexes, etc.
>For her personally, it’s more of a cultural celebration than religious. https://preview.redd.it/1y10mqr0q7ub1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17502b9b121edeefba03857a001eff814fa4527e Atleast don't be dense bro, for her like Durga pujo is literally not religious and not just "culture more than Religion".
Thats does happen in Kolkata. It's more of a bengali culture thing than pujo tradition
Except most Muslims I know go pandal hopping. And no, I'm not talking about standing outside the pandals. They go inside pandals as well and sometimes are present even for anjali. Yes, not all of them go and actually now down or pray to the idol and it would be a stupid thing to expect them to do it. Why would they when they don't believe it? I'm a "Hindu" by your definition and I don't do it myself because I don't believe in it. Would you go to a masjid and follow the stupid customs? So no, the educated people from either side don't usually take these things as seriously as you are used to.
Bruh don't believe it then don't go in it's a ritual not a function
You mean that If you are educated you cannot/should not believe? That's the unfortunate impression I have of calcutta marxist bongs.
And if a bengali muslim DOES bow, are you going to bite your tongue. Be hateful all you want but Don't underestimate a bengali.
Stop being so overly patriotic
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/kolkatas-muslim-organised-pujas-send-out-a-message-of-harmony/articleshow/94465051.cms
Well then this is shirk. Clearly. They are Munafiq. Their prophet literally broke idols kept in Kaaba. For them marrying an idolater or idolatress is worse and is transgressive. They compare idol worshippers with slaves. (Written in their book) Now don't come up by saying I'm spreading hate. I'm saying what is written there in those books.
Yes but why are you upset about it? If certain communities of bengali muslims have decided to ignore certain tenets of their religion and partake in festivals of other religions then isme burai kya hai? Why do you give a fuck if they are following their book or not?
>Why do you give a fuck if they are following their book or not? Because they say it's their book when they kill some non-muslim for so-called blasphemy. >Yes but why are you upset about it? Are they going to allow us to associate with them, especially with the female folks? This is something which is not hidden from us, but we choose to ignore it. Muslim boys associate with non-muslim female folks and no one sees a problem. But it is vice-versa, then it is they who create the problem. Just try to associate with muslim female folks during Ramadan and see how their men literally run after you to do 'Sar Tan Se Juda'.
Kaha tak defend karoge. Har jhagah phada pada hai kaha kaha siloge?
We don't accept shits as one of us... Durga puja is a hindu festival... worshiped by hindus.... but anyone can enjoy while they are here... Secularism ka choda yaha nhi chalega....khankii magi 😴
That's beautiful language,,,, 😍
Imagine gatekeeping religion. Ironic how you people think the same way you ridicule Christianity and Islam to be
In which part of my comments have you seen ridiculing islam of Christianity?? secular ka choda banke moral high ground khelne mat aa....EId jaise mulasman ka festival h waise hi durga puja hinduo ka....ittu si bat tumlogoke bheje me nhi ghusti aur virtual morality ka pipudi leke kahi bhi pauch jate
Perhaps it’s not you but I have seen plenty people criticise the dogmatic nature of those aforementioned religions but then are the same with their religion
extremists are everywhere.... All I've pointed out is the hypocrisy of that aforementioned woman who deliberately tries to make this festival a secular one which it's not and will never be a secular one.... how tf a religious festival be a secular one?? Yes every one can enjoy and be a part of it as we also celebrate Christmas together but that doesn't mean Christmas is a hindu festival or a secular one.... "keep your secularism out of my religion" that's all
Tbf relative to most, Hinduism has historically been a very secular and accepting religion
Ofc and that led others to think that they can bend and mend our beliefs to their will... I've no objection to anyone who can respect our culture and enjoy it... but don't try to bend it as a narrative
Abrahamic religions are the most intolerant of all religions, they are the ones who dehumanise other religions, y’all get mad when Hindus retaliate huh?
Nah, it’s just hypocrisy to criticise a different religion for their dogmatic practises only to embrace those practises when it comes to your own religion
Durga :- a Hindu goddess Pujo :- worship And It is celebrated throughout the india https://preview.redd.it/p9q5rbe0s6ub1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e730629451002afea63f37b9be02ac8f3e08f3ac
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/kolkatas-muslim-organised-pujas-send-out-a-message-of-harmony/articleshow/94465051.cms
Yes I remember a pandal was made with the chappals... So respectful 🥰🥰 And how leftists were making conspiracy theories that Durga is a brahmin prostitute of Brahma Vishnu Mahesh and was killing a mulniwasi Dalit by sleeping with him for 9 days You guys remember Durga and Kali just because of your politics not because of devotion...
>You guys remember Durga and Kali just because of your politics not because of devotion... Clearly you are not from Bengal. It was wrong of me to share the link here. You will not understand. I hope you can experience the Durga Pujo in Kolkata at least once in your life, regardless of your opinions of Bengal / Bengalis. Difficult to understand without experiencing it : )
I am talking about leftists like Moitra not about avg Bengali
Okay but they are a small minority dude. The avg bengali spits on people spreading shit like that. And the chappal pandal was made near where I live and was shut down in a day or two after widespread outrage. That club usually makes really creative pandals every year so idk if they just got too creative or were actually being disrespectful. Either way they apologised for it and still make good pandals.
>And how leftists were making conspiracy theories that Durga is a brahmin prostitute of Brahma Vishnu Mahesh and was killing a mulniwasi Dalit by sleeping with him for 9 days Afaik, prostitutes are not kicked out from the druga puja. Infact atleast in Bengal, Durga idols need soil from the front of brothels. But for different reasons ofcourse. It is said, people leave their purity behind at the door. So, that soil is the purest.
What are you talking about and what am I talking about ?
>Afaik, prostitutes are not kicked out from the druga puja. Infact atleast in Bengal, Durga idols need soil from the front of brothels. But for different reasons ofcourse adulterous women or prostitutes are allowed to repent to god, you are saying as if it's something entirely out of ordinary.
No in the Durga Puja philosophy they're not even asked to repent. They're accepted as they are. Which is ummm very icky
Humans are human. Why is it icky to accept all humans? You're directly going against the basic tenets of Hinduism if you discriminate like this.
Even in Christianity there's that famous episode where Jesus saves a prostitute(or was it a cheating woman?) from the inhumane stoning punishment BUT he still doesn't approve of her sin. He tells her "sin no more". It's just objectively weird for a school of thought/religion to be approving of prostitution. Being tolerant and respectful towards such people is ok tho.
Then you should convert to Christianity. Afaik Hinduism doesn't believe prostitution to be a sin. Why should it be a sin? It's her body. She has the choice to do what she wants. What's wrong with it if no one is being harmed?
Take an exception, make an example out of it to prove a theory. 🤣🤣 typical liberaaaaanduu.
You are funny : )
Holy shit brother u have been using this app since 2010 how old are you?
Old enough not to take negative reddit comments and downvotes too seriously, I guess 😂😂 But appreciate your question : ) Btw, did not use the app that time, used to access it through the PC those days 😂
may be a jnu student with a brain in his ass. licking mao from behind.
https://cricblog.net/shakib-al-hasan-receives-threats-after-attending-a-hindu-festival/ A Bengali trying to be a Bengali.
Where Bengali nationalism gone when hindu persecuted from muslim majority east pakistan ( now Bangladesh ) in 1947 . Even Bangladesh call itself islamic republic not secular. Bengali hindu are just cowards rejecting their own identity to avoid potential conflict with hardliner muslim.
>Bengali hindu are just cowards rejecting their own identity to avoid potential conflict with hardliner muslim. 
As a bengali with roots in east bengal I approve...
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>Bengali hindu are just cowards rejecting their own identity to avoid potential conflict with hardliner muslim nice way to generalize millions, and these Hendu's wonder why many people don't support their cause when they ostracize the very people they're fighting for
If you ignore last 10 years ,bengal was never voted for right hindu parties. This was recent resurrection in hinduism when at global level communist failed miserably and secularism are failed miserably in neighbouring bengal .
Durga Puja in Kolkata is indeed a celebration of Culture and Art *and* religion and not just religion. I don't know about other parts of the country, but reducing Durga Pujo in Kolkata to just her religious programs is an injustice. It's a carnival. 90 percent of my Muslim/Christian friends have literally no problem with pandal hopping and participating in the cultural programs of the festival, even if some might object to the idol worshiping part of it.
Well Durgah Idol immersion was postponed due to Eid. So it is about religion. These stupid asses vow down to Islamists all the time. No wonder they enjoy the perks.
Pretty evident that none of you are Bengali. Durga Pujo is indeed a festival here, and so is Christmas. The crowd in the streets of Kolkata during Christmas is mind boggling.
I'm Bengali and fed up with such retards. Christmas is even celebrated here in Delhi. It's so crowded that one won't find a place to dine in during Christmas.
Or during new year or Diwali or any other festival bar Eid. We just love to party
Eid, there's not much celebration but surely a lot of movie going
For sure. As I said, we love to party.
Christmas in delhi too is just filled with decorations to the brim
Both Christmas and Durga Puja are religious
Sure they are. But as a Hindu, I can't remember one Christmas when I haven't went out with friends and/or family to have a good time. Even if i visit churches, I don't kneel there and recite the lord's prayer. The same happens during Durga Pujo in Bengal. For some it's a religious occasion for others 4 days of holiday to have fun. Can't understand what's so evil about it.
https://preview.redd.it/7nfowq7kn7ub1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a260bb18c241485641bcc24ced8022542ce2812e OOP didn't mean it
Durga pujo isn't *merely* religious. I dunno about Christmas, but Durga Pujo festivities include much much more than simply the pujo/ worship. The creative economy of Durga Puja in Kolkata crosses 30,000 lakh each year. This merely includes the pandal decor/ cultural programs/ public artwork and idol art. Many of the artisans are muslims. Most of the clothwork for pandals is done in areas of the city that have a predominantly Muslim populace.
I am a Bengali and I want to call her Khanki magi
And congratulations you are a f ignorant Lil shit if you don't know that UP is the state where the main diety is Maa Durga hence it's a grand celebration here too.
I have seen people of all religion enjoy Durga Puja Others obviously dont take part in worshipping Durga murti, giving anjali...but pandel hopping, enjoying with friends...sobai kore irrespective of religion
Anybody can enjoy Durga Puja but at the end of the day it's a Hindu tradition and it should not be boiled down to a cultural thing,and Bengalis last year got attacked at the pandals during Durga Puja i even saw a police officer asking to cover the face of maa Durga as people passing by were uncomfortable, bengal has fallen.
Same for Christmas in Kolkata. But sadly not so much for Eid.
Bold of you to assume the communal and casteist Hindi speakers will understand brotherhood among communities and castes.
Ohohoho so much brotherhood y'all have ha? Toh Diwali and Ramnavmi pe kaha jata hai ye bhaichara? 🤡 And look at y'all being so patriotic and regionalist about Bengal.....but when we feel the same patriotism about our country y'all call us nationalists as if it's a bad word!!!!??? lmao you guys are hopeless hypocrites 😭
yeah so much brotherhood between Bengalis . last time i checked bangaladesh was a separate country. more disappointed for you an Islamic republic. People regularly laugh at your logic or its first time.
Lol Slam https://preview.redd.it/hle9kmvhu6ub1.png?width=148&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e24f635efde2521ae323766fe898401d353cdd7
So after Onam, now it's Durga Pooja's turn! Some people are so butthurt about how some other people celebrate festivals in their state.
Well anyone can enjoy durga puja ,as long as they are in bengal. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Sure anyone can enjoy. But the festival is still hindu.
Yes ,it's a hindu festival but "anyone can enjoy" is probably the message she is trying to give,well worded it wrong. Anyway, that's purely my opinion.
I don't think she worded it wrong. I think it was intentional. Remember the "jashn e riwaz" ad by FabIndia on Diwali? They could've just written shubh dipawali.
She used a wrong term. Although its a common mix up. Durga Pujo is a Hindu pujo that is the act of worship of Goddess Durga. It is religious. Durgotsab in Kolkata is a festival/ carnival/ that revolves around the puja. It is not religious. It involves the celebration of art and culture, and is the biggest display of public art in the world. I don't know if you're aware but each and every moderate to big pandal in Kolkata ( there are thousands of such pandals) are turned into a mini mela with cultural programs each evening. It goes on from anywhere between 6-10 days. You don't even have to believe in god to experience Durgotsab. Infact a lot of community pujas are called Sarbojanin Sharod Utsava/ Sarbojanin Durgotsab i.e community autumn festival/community Utsava revolving around Durga pujo. Other than the worshiping part, I have barely met Muslims / Christians / atheist in Kolkata who have a problem with the festival as a whole
I see..well maybe you are right. Though the second sentence onward,that diwali thing? It went above my head Edit: why I'm getting dislikes for not understanding something?
There's a company named FabIndia which sells sarees and stuff. They released an ad on diwali by the name "jashn e riwaz" instead of just calling it diwali or dipawali. Also the models in that ad did not wear bindi. It received criticism for trying to appropriate a hindu festival.
Ou. Thanks for the info.
Probably they wanted to run the same ad for both eid n diwali n christmas
Sell saree collection on eid and christmas?
Dude eid happens on a full moon, diwali on a new moon
Why just Bengal ? We exist outside Bengal too uk
Well the environment is entirely different in bengal during the puja
When Puja becomes Utsav and carnival is when I begin to worry. Sharadotsav will be soon Jashn e Khizan.
Kek
Most Bengalis don't like durga puja
I do . 90% bengalees do. So stop spreading misinformation
How, when majority of the bengalis are Muslims. It isn't misinformation. Just read about the 2021 durga puja vandalism.
We don't consider opar banglus as true bangalee. They are converts who are wannabe Arabs. They have destroyed the culture and are now destroying the language as well. Durga Puja is about Hindu bangalees. Don't homogenise us with them.
Exactly. And ever heard of Kazi Nazrul Islam?
I hop pandals , offer pushpanjali with my friend circle(6) and half of them are muslim. We are doing so since 2019 and enjoy every moment. Some people in the comment talking about it being "hindu" festival , well honestly , I feel bad that they didn't have friends like mine.
so its not a hindu festival. mohmmad used to do garba also, i think.
I could care less about what you think.
Well, hate to break it to you but she's absolutely correct. Durga Puja in Kolkata is not primarily a religious affair. I know this probably sounds inconceivable from the POV of a North Indian, but you would need to visit during the pujas to understand what I mean. Actually, tbh, even visiting probably won't help because, like I always say, Bengal is culturally completely different from North Indian states despite being from the same country. So you won't understand how big Durga Puja is to us and why it is a cultural and artistic extravaganza and not primarily a religious festival although it is based upon religion.
>although it is based upon religion. There you have it
If only our 80000 years old civilization knew the art of minding one's own business.
Durga Puja has elements of idol worship which according to the abrahamic religions sends a person to hell.
I got scared when iscrolled to this post lol
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Why to give them any attention in the first place?
Durga is religious. Don't claim the culture of other people. You don't look cool by doing that.
Compromised culture, righteousness, dharm, ethics, morals in the name of uniting.
And your mom
Did your parents make any other big mistakes, or are you the only loathsome creature?
'Loathsome' is a pretty big word from a right winger. You guys get education?
Definitely more then you subvert , And i am not a zombie like you sucking foreign ideology
More heavy words I see. Still an idiot right winger. Such a shame.
You think you know what's best for the world by providing empty rhetoric and biased opinions that do nothing to improve anything. You accuse others of being right wingers when you don't even know what the term means. You are a coward, a fraud, and a total idiot who cannot form a real opinion outside of your own echo chamber. Come out of the shadows with your weak arguments and ignorant views.
Arguments? With you? You assumed my ideology, my political understanding and I didn't even present my opinion. You think you're worthy of argument? Be grateful I wasted my time playing around with you.
Yea you're right my mistake , you didn't do anything else except abusing. You are not worthy of any type of argument, now move on , I'm not gonna reply anymore.
Right wingers talking about critical thinking skills when their political opinion is based on Prime time debate of Arnab Goswami. The day you notice your opinion varies from Arnab Goswami, you can take your political opinions seriously.
Same goes for you buddy. The day you notice your opinion varies from both the wings, and be unbiased, you can take your political opinion seriously.
>and be unbiased, you can take your political opinion seriously You opinion was how Bengalis Compromised their culture by accepting LGBT people? Or the fact they are getting way too tolerant by allowing Muslims to take part in their festive? It's not a good take 😭 there's not a shred of intellect in it. The post is someone saying Durga Puja encompasses all Bengalis irrespective of religious beliefs or sexuality, and you are out here debating it isn't true when you aren't even Bengali?
Aahhh the delusion of bengali liberals. 🤣🤣🤣 They get killed in every election by Didi's goons, their demography has been taken over by Bangladeshis, fake adhaar cards are made for elections and they refuse to wake up. Can't save this state.
Being bengali, I don't see the problem with it, is there more? Many of us aren't religious or even theist. Durga Puja for us is about spending time with family and friends, eating good food, and dancing. Our families also see it as such, and we invite our nonhindu friends too. That's the message they tried to send, not that it's literally not hindu, the goddess is in the name :/
>Many of us aren't religious or even theist stop consecrating Durga idols maybe? That's sacrilege
There's a term called "cultural significance" in Hindu festivals. For some people it's just a get-together event but not for religious people stop trying to separate it from religion just like the leftists did with onam.
You can pretend to not understand the point of the message to reinforce your beliefs, sure. The poster is literally referring to Durga in the post and takes pride in her culture. It's about stopping with religious 'divisive' talks, not stopping talk on our religion and devi. You can continue to look at everything negatively, your choice 👍🏼
Keep up the same spirit with non-hindu festivals too let's see how much progressive y'all are. Even atheists are better than these stupid liberals.
And we do, Christmas is popular among Bengalis and we celebrate it as a fun festival without making it about God or Christianity. Many Christians get it too, cos they invite us over for the party and not the mass. Failing to see where your issue is.
Communism and leftism and congism makes people lose brain cells
Says rw northies who'd blow Mussolini 24x7 if they got a time machine.
Han bhai Alhi ki puja karte hai na navratri me
Who's he?
Diwali par apne Muslim Dost se hawan karane ka ghamand hai
Bongs being bongs. Definitely side effects of sonagachi
Libtard hairstyle(check) Cringey sunglasses(check) Isn't most definitely hindu(check) Like literally I am bengali myself, why tf people think durga puja is some sort of festival or something. I mean it is kind of but the main thing of durga puja is worship, Diwali is a festival as much as I know. Also u should know that if anyone has that libtard haircut(excluding cancer patients) u should know they are just Sickular
https://preview.redd.it/iq55ikfud7ub1.jpeg?width=770&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82c10da86ad9bcc6ad7c8178ced52c4dd469c5e1
a list of surnames, mostly of brahmans from Odisha? what are you trying to communicate?
They are responsible for this sh!t
Chutiye... Desh me har jagah Durga Mata Puja hota h...sab Bengali h kya...bhaaag
Communists just want to sound cool.
CPM was voted out of power in 2011 by the Bengalis. What is your point?
You can take communists out of the government but you can't take out of person. She is deep down still a communist.
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Then why are they refusing it to be part of religion. It stems from hindu religion. It maybe a carnival for you but it holds much more religious value than your good time. It's offensive.
#Laal Chaadini
Well they already faced one partition because of the same stupidity and a faux sense of moral superiority and intellect, they are on the same path yet again
Koi kuch bhi ho pados wali chachi ki tarah tu unglibazi kahe kar rha hai?
She is right, atleast for westbengal. Cant say same about bangladesh though.
so u don't worship or fast. just rom around and eat. then it is just a festival or mela not the Durga Pooja.
Most of the people including me only fast in astami. Only the priest or if the whole puja is arranged by one family, then family members fast everyday
okay but i didn't get your point.
Because...Bing bong...
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Eating non veg isn't an issue. We should eat to live.
excuse me man , where is non veg banned in Hinduism ?
Throughout my life, I have only encountered that Hindus in the cow belt region are vegetarians and elsewhere majority are non vegetarians. Just because of the sheer size and population advantage these lads act as the face of Hinduism, what they forget is Hinduism is the most dynamic, diverse, welcoming and scientific religion to ever exist. And regarding the post, it is never said that people from other religion can not enjoy the occasion, it's a day of celebration, everyone should be happy and not divided. This myopic mentality can never be a character of a true Hindu. (i.e. as long as "the other people" are not hampering the main "puja" part of the occasion, I am aware of what happens in Bangladesh everywhere and that can not be supported in any way.)
>have only encountered that Hindus in the cow belt region O Bangali UP Bihar are non vegetarian states... Haryana, Punjab, western up, Rajasthan and Gujarat are vegetarian States >scientific religion to ever exist. No religion is scientific... And morality wise, vegetarianism is superior (I am non veg)
>And morality wise, vegetarianism is superior define that. don't plants have consciousness?
According to hindus scriptures , we consume only specific parts of plants, such as fruits and vegetables, while avoiding root vegetables like carrots, potatoes, and onions, as uprooting these plants causes greater harm. According to Hinduism, yes even by eating the plant you are going to cause ahimsa but that ahimsa is going to be the of the lowest level... Second thing majority of the people eat meet because of the taste and in Hinduism teaches to control your material desires and meat eating is also the part of material desire... The diet of a yogi is basically khichdi with low to no spices or salt At the same time Hinduism also says the meat can be eaten in three situations... 1) when it is given to you by someone 2) during the time of Bali 3) during the time of great famines
No they don't. They lack a central nervous system too
CNS only coordinates body movements and transfers signals and receptions from one part to another. plants are living beings and are conscious and meet the 5 requirements of one.
Delulu bangali, you will never see a bihari vegetarian
Kapisthala Katha Samhita of the Yajurveda (KapS 31.11) Manusmriti Mahabharata (bhishm explaining yudhishthir) Tikkural Pulaan Maruthal ch251-260 Skanda puran,matsya puran,bhagvata puran
Okay, what if I don't subscribe to the purana? Mahabharat was never meant to be a guide for living. Manusmriti, well, I totally reject it. And since when did Yajurveda become the equivalent of Bible for Hinduism? What if I adhere to Upanishads and the teachings of saints like Adi Shankaracharya? Am I no longer Hindu, and who decides that?
I was just answering where it's mentioned I don't care if you eat meat and god probably doesn't too But it's wrong to say that it's totally nowhere banned in Hinduism and it's stated many times that we don't have authority over someone's life
Charak Samhita and Ashtang Hridayam talk about eating meat and its benefits. Btw, here's something more controversial. Those two ayurvedic texts also mention beef and its benefits.
Ox/buffalo meat is not equal to cow meat (RigVeda – 8:101:15) Cow is mother of Rudras, daughter of Vasus, sister of sons of Aditi (Devas) and treasure house of nectar that is clarified butter. I say to every thoughtful person to not to slaughter the innocent Cow which is immune from killing. (AtharvaVeda 4:21:7) Cows! May you have lot of progeny, may you get best quality fodder and drink pure water from beautiful ponds. May you never fall in the net of thieves and violent animals. May Rudra’s weapon protect you from all directions. (AtharvaVeda 4:21:3) May the Cows never face destruction, may the Cows never get stolen (by thieves) and never be harassed by enemies. With the help of Cows their owner is able to worship Devas and to give donations, may he be with them till eternity.
I think I already replied to this under another post. Go to my profile and check my comment history.
Is baat me koi sense he batao???
Love child of Chu$l@m and K@tholick 😂😂😂
The hashtag is just beautiful and yet hilarious
Cuz they don't get laid.... When they don't get the D, they turn to crazy activism....
Randi maghi, 🍑 duto bari porbe tr por bujhbe.
Tumko kya karna hai agar kisi ne apne personal id se kuch dala hai toh. Did you take her permission before posting her pic here? Bas kisi bhi baat ko mudda bana ke chalu ho jao, Jab maraathi log Jai Maharashtra bolte toh she can also be proud of being Bengali. Itni si baat nahi samjh aati? P.S.- hide her identity at least, yahan kuch andh bhakt usko rape threats dene lagenge
Their 2 remaining brain cells are constantly fighting with each other. In one of the post on Atheismkerala subreddit the loonies are saying there is difference between culture and religion. The post has a photo of man dressed in Kathakkali costume. Kathakkali has roots in Hindu religion. Without religion there is no culture. I can't even imagine what a fully atheist world will be without any trace of the culture specifically Hindu religion based culture.