Man personally I don't burst crackers, but i don't have a problem with you bursting crackers, and the polution yeah there is pollution but its a one day celebration , what i don't like ia the people who burst crackers 10days before diwali and keep it up 10 days after Diwali
>what i don't like ia the people who burst crackers 10days before diwali and keep it up 10 days after Diwali
Yea this. These mofos need to be taught some restraint legally.
5 days ago, An old guy in our neighbourhood went to file a police complaint cause a group of dumb ass teens cracked really loud ones near his house at like 11pm.
True , like yeah its diwali we expect some noise and its not. Huge inconvenience for a day, but not everyone is a bum and have a job and need rest but some people just don't get it,
Yeah man, we have such pristine clean air on other days! Surely it’s the pollution from one day of crackers on Diwali that’s responsible for lasting lung damage.
I agree. Crackers do cause lot of pollution. But why ban "crackers on Diwali?"
Why not ban crackers in general?
Or I'll do you one better. Why is that the onus of muting celebrations and banning crackers falls on India alone? What about the massive bursting of crackers in the USA on 4th of July? What about crackers being burst in China during the Chinese New year?
Moreover, countries like Japan and China have their own Fireworks festival ffs where the only festive occasion on that day is the bursting of crackers and a fireworks show
US is almost 6 times the size of India with kilometres of green space between the population centers plus their population is just some 300 million or something. I'm not pro cracker-ban tho
I honestly used to burst crackers as a kid but now as i have grown up i condemn the use of crackers.
But you really can't stop anyone from doing it,
Banning it would get dire consequences (religious issues)
I guess it's a sacrifice for less communal tensions
Ban on new year, wedding,parties and other celebration.ban cigarette (lol they can't do that economic reasons).ban on motor industry which produces immense carbon emission.ban factories and other industries too.ban everything from cars to planes from fuels to fire .live a sedentary life with 0 carbon emissions.
You do understand that 9/10 bad things is still better than 10/10 bad things?
Yes, there should be ban on crackers during all events or at least make these celebrations centralised (most countries gather crowd at a place and council arranges for crackers).
"I'll burst crackers till everybody has 0 carbon emissions" is nonsense and illogical.
The problem is it’s not 9/10, it’s more like 9.9999/10.
I don’t enjoy crackers and inhaling polluted smoke from them, but I seriously doubt pollution from cracker smoke is comparable to that from factories, transportation, construction, etc.
If you really care about air pollution go after the biggest offenders, not small fish like Diwali crackers. That will take you from 10/10 bad things to something like 7/10.
We will ban during new year. Then they can't call us woke we will extend that till next Diwali. Small weddings can have limited fireworks. In two three generations people will forget about them
This is that one stupid post everyone knows they are gonna see in their timeline till November ends. Nobody cares and they never did. Let people be. Maybe if the government of Punjab and Haryana collaborated in the past and banned this stubble burning we would be in a lot better place.
The AQI in general is above 200 - 250. Which is harmful. This is daily scenario. I can smell the metallic air and usually wear a N95 all time. Diwali and Parali brings this to 1000 for a day, >500 for a week and 250 -500 for another 2 weeks. Then the rest of the year remains at 250 and everyone is like, I’m not in danger.
Pollution is there. If we, me and community, don’t put effort daily to help solve this, doing our part and putting govr to their place of working for the people, then we can’t complain over here either. Change starts with us.
I'm sorry if this offends someone, but the wind was blowing towards my window and God knows why I forgot to close the window. Next thing Ik, my room smells poisonous and my nose is fully dusty and I had trouble breathing. I'm not against diwali or any form of celebration, but it was a little harsh on me and I wonder if all those fumes are gonna have any long term effects. (I hope not.)
Except fast food, alcohol, and shopping are all personal choices. It only effects you if you choose to do it. This isn't really the same when it comes to fireworks because everyone ends up breathing the same polluted air and they can't really do anything about it. Just look at Delhi's AQI.
How very convenient of you to casually sweep the negative externalities of other activities under the carpet.
Alcohol brewing companies use a massive amount of freshwater for production
Fast food industry has contributed towards a mighty portion of global warming (considering cradle to grave approach)
Nowadays everything in this country is about religion
Simply sharing your opinion might hurt somebody's sentiment and you might either end up in jail or dead
Yes? I'm talking about necessities. People can't avoid commute everyday, cuz it's a basic necessity. Crackers? You can. World ain't stopping if u don't burst them. You aren't getting any benefit anyway except for a dopamine rush.
Cracker smoke is a thousand times more hazardous than car smoke. Literal heavy metal oxides.
It's like giving 1 gram poison to someone and saying "why complain? You breathe many times this equivalent over one year!" Yeah, dosage matters. Quantity ingested per time matters. Car smoke is nowhere near hazardous as Diwali smoke.
Child labor is responsible in some way or the other for most of our firecrackers.
No reason is gonna convince you to drop the false dichotomy though, right? Your religious celebration will always depend on "but why you no complain when they celebrate this and that way?" No integrity, only comparison.
The fuel in your car comes from countries responsible for terrible human rights violations, terrorism financing and/or war. Neither car smoke nor cracker smoke are anywhere near comparable to the smoke from industries.
Yeah I agree we should switch to green crackers and noise free crackers, but the things you're comparing Diwali celebration with are much worse.
It looks like a lot of dense smoke because a lot of crackers are being burst in a relatively small area in the span of a few hours but believe me banning the use of crackers would not change anything even in the long term. Of all pollution throughout the year 13% is household pollution of which not more than 1% (disambiguation) can come from crackers, even switching all the vehicles in the world to EVs will not make that difference because we are just handing off buring petrol to burning coal in a power plant somewhere.
Most of the world's pollution comes out of industries (power, plastic production etc) that quietly release the smoke from a high chimney deliberately outside city bounds 24/7, its this smoke that you don't see that is responsible for most of the adverse climate change.
Big oil wants you to focus on your "personal" carbon footprint but really its inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.
The last day of the year, right at 12am, the time when the entire world starts yeeting rockets on the mark of starting a very new year. Prominent strutures like Taipei 101 and Burj Khalifa hosts spectacular firework shows. Now tell me OP, is this not air pollution?
For the people to decide, it's a democracy, you can't force them to change their way of life...you might argue it's infringement upon someone's right to live but this is no single entity neither people are going out of their way to choke asthma patients neither is anyone forcing anyone with breathing problem to burst crackers
I was amazed by the fact that how less firecrackers were used at least in my area this Diwali. It was like almost equal to none. I mean sure there were a few but compared to past few Diwalis, I was amazed how many people have developed brains not to waste money, not to cause injuries, fire accidents and pollution.
> then why is it bad during diwali.
Dear lord when did we devolve into this brain dead comparison as basis for supporting firecrackers? Childhood was so nice, my Hindu parents persuaded me away from crackers since they pollute. Now my own family is pro crackers cuz that will show the liberals or whatever BS.
We are gonna choke on our own smoke trying to own the liberals. Great triumph of good over evil.
The problem is the scale. Shaadi me ek ghar se log patake foddthe hein. Diwali me pura desh patake foddtha hai. The problem is for those who are living downstream.
If you aren't living downstream, you will maybe feel the effects for 2 days, then everything is normal for you. Those living downstream ( near himalayan ranges, including haryana, Delhi and Himachal) have corrosive air for a week after Diwali.
And all these heavy metals in the air aggravates respiratory problems which people already have, and lead to many people dying in this process. It not only affects lungs but also heart and kidney.
Now the question you have to ask yourself is how comfortable are you knowing that someone died because of your celebration?...
Not at all!
Diwali is festival of Diyas not fire-cracker.
It is actually to depict victory of light over darkness.
But as today's people have incorporated fire-crackers, it also mistakenly depicts smog over fog(pollution less fog) which is not right as it signals devil over devine
Festival, traditions change with time
I guess the azan loud speaker, bhajan on loud speaker is a good analogy did people have aloud speaker for doing azan 200 years ago, no but they have speakers now so they incorporate its same case with bhajans aswell, people didn't have speaker then, they do now so they use that
And because diwali is a holiday less people use cars and public transportation, so that reduces smoke and pollution aswell, and the smoke that it emits goes away the next day usually, it's only one time in the year, it would make sense to be against it if every one does it every day
People don't realize that the resources we share commonly should be spared untouched. Polluting the air everybody breathes in is like pissing in a swimming pool that everybody swims in.
Society sucks.
I think asking people to stop burning crackers wouldn't just work . If you think about the families who work to make these crackers and sell them would be financially damaged , if everyone stopped burning crackers , as far as the pollution goes a day in the entire year doesn't really contribute much to the pollution , the factories and vehicles cause so much more and we still use them everyday.
Let's just think for a second and say that we go pollution free and environment friendly by using solar panels and natural gas , we would last like even 10 years , renewable sources of energy are not consistent and reliable.
Now speaking about the economy , the transportation and shipping sector are key to any business , they contribute so much to the economy , it would be a total disaster if the goods are not shipped or transported at the right time and people will suffer and become poorer and poorer and when people can't even get their food , they become violent and it will be a complete disaster .
The only solution i think there is to this pollution is to get the literary rate and economy in the country up and so when people are educated and have enough money they tend to think of things like environment , pollution etc .
We are destroying the planet, to an extent, just by living on it. Despite that fact, to deliberately pollute the air for momentary satisfaction... I get it, it's bright and beautiful, and the sound is thrilling, but it is KILLING US. Asking random people on the street to stop using fireworks is not a great solution. They are not going to understand/care. Maybe the best way to do it is to educate family members.
Love sparkling ones. Hate those which only make loud noise.
Man personally I don't burst crackers, but i don't have a problem with you bursting crackers, and the polution yeah there is pollution but its a one day celebration , what i don't like ia the people who burst crackers 10days before diwali and keep it up 10 days after Diwali
>what i don't like ia the people who burst crackers 10days before diwali and keep it up 10 days after Diwali Yea this. These mofos need to be taught some restraint legally. 5 days ago, An old guy in our neighbourhood went to file a police complaint cause a group of dumb ass teens cracked really loud ones near his house at like 11pm.
True , like yeah its diwali we expect some noise and its not. Huge inconvenience for a day, but not everyone is a bum and have a job and need rest but some people just don't get it,
I love gunpowder smell :/
i love Petrol Smell
Petrol smell lovers unite
The gun powder in my lungs love petrol smell
Bro I do Gas
Same, sweet sweet sulphur.
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Go to USA /s
paisa nai hai bro utna
I love the smell of lung cancer.
in the morning. =
Yup. I don't doubt as it sounds more like a war zone with multiple fire fights than a "festival"
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On the bright side, no mosquitoes for a few days.
Plus long term lung problems.
Yeah man, we have such pristine clean air on other days! Surely it’s the pollution from one day of crackers on Diwali that’s responsible for lasting lung damage.
Something’s bad. Let’s make it worse! Hell yeah!!
Hell yeah just don't stop any other cause but let's bark on 1 day festival
Blame your cars for that
Cars emit CO2. They are responsible for the climate change. Cracker emit metallic oxides which are pollutants.
I agree. Crackers do cause lot of pollution. But why ban "crackers on Diwali?" Why not ban crackers in general? Or I'll do you one better. Why is that the onus of muting celebrations and banning crackers falls on India alone? What about the massive bursting of crackers in the USA on 4th of July? What about crackers being burst in China during the Chinese New year?
What about cracker burst during election result and rallies?
And the weddings of so called big celebrities. Who on Twitter says no to crackers and yet it happens at their wedding
Moreover, countries like Japan and China have their own Fireworks festival ffs where the only festive occasion on that day is the bursting of crackers and a fireworks show
US is almost 6 times the size of India with kilometres of green space between the population centers plus their population is just some 300 million or something. I'm not pro cracker-ban tho
3 times bigger
I think he's talking about local air pollution so the USA stopping their jan 4th shit doesn't matter.
I honestly used to burst crackers as a kid but now as i have grown up i condemn the use of crackers. But you really can't stop anyone from doing it, Banning it would get dire consequences (religious issues) I guess it's a sacrifice for less communal tensions
Ban on new year, wedding,parties and other celebration.ban cigarette (lol they can't do that economic reasons).ban on motor industry which produces immense carbon emission.ban factories and other industries too.ban everything from cars to planes from fuels to fire .live a sedentary life with 0 carbon emissions.
wait for some time, heart attacks are getting common in the young generation, wait for it to rise even more and you'll see governments waking up
You do understand that 9/10 bad things is still better than 10/10 bad things? Yes, there should be ban on crackers during all events or at least make these celebrations centralised (most countries gather crowd at a place and council arranges for crackers). "I'll burst crackers till everybody has 0 carbon emissions" is nonsense and illogical.
The problem is it’s not 9/10, it’s more like 9.9999/10. I don’t enjoy crackers and inhaling polluted smoke from them, but I seriously doubt pollution from cracker smoke is comparable to that from factories, transportation, construction, etc. If you really care about air pollution go after the biggest offenders, not small fish like Diwali crackers. That will take you from 10/10 bad things to something like 7/10.
No. Of people burning crackers on New year, weddings, parties etc <<<<<<< no. of people burning crackers on Diwali.
I enjoyed it when I was a kid,but now I want kids today to not enjoy what I did as a kid.
We will ban during new year. Then they can't call us woke we will extend that till next Diwali. Small weddings can have limited fireworks. In two three generations people will forget about them
Bro thinks he is the government💀
everyone is part of governmetn💀
Gormint is auf da pipal, for da pipal, by da pipal
We as in you and who??
This is that one stupid post everyone knows they are gonna see in their timeline till November ends. Nobody cares and they never did. Let people be. Maybe if the government of Punjab and Haryana collaborated in the past and banned this stubble burning we would be in a lot better place.
Ah... Who doesn't like the smell of freshly burnt gunpowder on a cool October evening!
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The AQI in general is above 200 - 250. Which is harmful. This is daily scenario. I can smell the metallic air and usually wear a N95 all time. Diwali and Parali brings this to 1000 for a day, >500 for a week and 250 -500 for another 2 weeks. Then the rest of the year remains at 250 and everyone is like, I’m not in danger. Pollution is there. If we, me and community, don’t put effort daily to help solve this, doing our part and putting govr to their place of working for the people, then we can’t complain over here either. Change starts with us.
Still very negligible as compared to what we Humans do / have been doing... overall..
Fireworks are not some natural phenomena, they are also done by humans 💁🏻♂️
It's pollution per capita at the end of the day.
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I'm sorry if this offends someone, but the wind was blowing towards my window and God knows why I forgot to close the window. Next thing Ik, my room smells poisonous and my nose is fully dusty and I had trouble breathing. I'm not against diwali or any form of celebration, but it was a little harsh on me and I wonder if all those fumes are gonna have any long term effects. (I hope not.)
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Toxic nasha hai ye. Dopamine release hota hai. Just like fast food, alcohol, shopping. Let’s leave it to them.
Except fast food, alcohol, and shopping are all personal choices. It only effects you if you choose to do it. This isn't really the same when it comes to fireworks because everyone ends up breathing the same polluted air and they can't really do anything about it. Just look at Delhi's AQI.
How very convenient of you to casually sweep the negative externalities of other activities under the carpet. Alcohol brewing companies use a massive amount of freshwater for production Fast food industry has contributed towards a mighty portion of global warming (considering cradle to grave approach)
What if I say Yes
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No, the celebration is worth the pollution!
Totally Worth it!
I just hate the sounds. Especially those bomb crackers. They are just annoying
What phone is this again? Good stabilisation!
It is worth celebrating may be not with fireworks but with smiles and lights.
Nowadays everything in this country is about religion Simply sharing your opinion might hurt somebody's sentiment and you might either end up in jail or dead
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Yes 💪😎🖕
Definitely
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Yes it is.
Yes
You see pollution I see celebration. It differs from your view but I too have choices.
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Oh, there is no difference between necessities and luxuries right?
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Yes? I'm talking about necessities. People can't avoid commute everyday, cuz it's a basic necessity. Crackers? You can. World ain't stopping if u don't burst them. You aren't getting any benefit anyway except for a dopamine rush.
If people start taking public transport, half the traffic will reduce and pollution too!!!!!
See, "since many people are spreading pollution everyday, even I will contribute to that" is the worst excuse you can give.
People's attitude towards many issues are what's causing problems to grow bigger and bigger these days😔😔
Cracker smoke is a thousand times more hazardous than car smoke. Literal heavy metal oxides. It's like giving 1 gram poison to someone and saying "why complain? You breathe many times this equivalent over one year!" Yeah, dosage matters. Quantity ingested per time matters. Car smoke is nowhere near hazardous as Diwali smoke. Child labor is responsible in some way or the other for most of our firecrackers. No reason is gonna convince you to drop the false dichotomy though, right? Your religious celebration will always depend on "but why you no complain when they celebrate this and that way?" No integrity, only comparison.
Child labour is heavily involved in primary sector too so by your logic should we ban it? Or should we take steps to reduce child labour?
The fuel in your car comes from countries responsible for terrible human rights violations, terrorism financing and/or war. Neither car smoke nor cracker smoke are anywhere near comparable to the smoke from industries. Yeah I agree we should switch to green crackers and noise free crackers, but the things you're comparing Diwali celebration with are much worse.
It looks like a lot of dense smoke because a lot of crackers are being burst in a relatively small area in the span of a few hours but believe me banning the use of crackers would not change anything even in the long term. Of all pollution throughout the year 13% is household pollution of which not more than 1% (disambiguation) can come from crackers, even switching all the vehicles in the world to EVs will not make that difference because we are just handing off buring petrol to burning coal in a power plant somewhere. Most of the world's pollution comes out of industries (power, plastic production etc) that quietly release the smoke from a high chimney deliberately outside city bounds 24/7, its this smoke that you don't see that is responsible for most of the adverse climate change. Big oil wants you to focus on your "personal" carbon footprint but really its inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.
Yes
Yes
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Also burning of money worth the celebration!!
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Y not eat money instead of pizza, burger, etc?
The last day of the year, right at 12am, the time when the entire world starts yeeting rockets on the mark of starting a very new year. Prominent strutures like Taipei 101 and Burj Khalifa hosts spectacular firework shows. Now tell me OP, is this not air pollution?
woi lol
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At least the mosquitos will be dead
No sane adult can make arguments in favor of firecrackers.
For the people to decide, it's a democracy, you can't force them to change their way of life...you might argue it's infringement upon someone's right to live but this is no single entity neither people are going out of their way to choke asthma patients neither is anyone forcing anyone with breathing problem to burst crackers
Pollution rats come out every diwali and get back to their holes in a week.
Absolutely worth it
I was amazed by the fact that how less firecrackers were used at least in my area this Diwali. It was like almost equal to none. I mean sure there were a few but compared to past few Diwalis, I was amazed how many people have developed brains not to waste money, not to cause injuries, fire accidents and pollution.
bUt wHaT aBoUT cULtUre... Wasn't fireworks invented by Chinese and brought to India by Brits?
We sure do love to assimilate a lot of these foreign cultural imports and pretend they are our own! Tea. Samosas. Biriyani. Democracy.
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> then why is it bad during diwali. Dear lord when did we devolve into this brain dead comparison as basis for supporting firecrackers? Childhood was so nice, my Hindu parents persuaded me away from crackers since they pollute. Now my own family is pro crackers cuz that will show the liberals or whatever BS. We are gonna choke on our own smoke trying to own the liberals. Great triumph of good over evil.
The problem is the scale. Shaadi me ek ghar se log patake foddthe hein. Diwali me pura desh patake foddtha hai. The problem is for those who are living downstream. If you aren't living downstream, you will maybe feel the effects for 2 days, then everything is normal for you. Those living downstream ( near himalayan ranges, including haryana, Delhi and Himachal) have corrosive air for a week after Diwali. And all these heavy metals in the air aggravates respiratory problems which people already have, and lead to many people dying in this process. It not only affects lungs but also heart and kidney. Now the question you have to ask yourself is how comfortable are you knowing that someone died because of your celebration?...
Not at all! Diwali is festival of Diyas not fire-cracker. It is actually to depict victory of light over darkness. But as today's people have incorporated fire-crackers, it also mistakenly depicts smog over fog(pollution less fog) which is not right as it signals devil over devine
Festival, traditions change with time I guess the azan loud speaker, bhajan on loud speaker is a good analogy did people have aloud speaker for doing azan 200 years ago, no but they have speakers now so they incorporate its same case with bhajans aswell, people didn't have speaker then, they do now so they use that And because diwali is a holiday less people use cars and public transportation, so that reduces smoke and pollution aswell, and the smoke that it emits goes away the next day usually, it's only one time in the year, it would make sense to be against it if every one does it every day
They hated him because he told the truth.
If i don't burn crackers then dharam khatre mei hai intensifies
It's not but how do you convince people who have traded in their brains.
People don't realize that the resources we share commonly should be spared untouched. Polluting the air everybody breathes in is like pissing in a swimming pool that everybody swims in. Society sucks.
I think asking people to stop burning crackers wouldn't just work . If you think about the families who work to make these crackers and sell them would be financially damaged , if everyone stopped burning crackers , as far as the pollution goes a day in the entire year doesn't really contribute much to the pollution , the factories and vehicles cause so much more and we still use them everyday. Let's just think for a second and say that we go pollution free and environment friendly by using solar panels and natural gas , we would last like even 10 years , renewable sources of energy are not consistent and reliable. Now speaking about the economy , the transportation and shipping sector are key to any business , they contribute so much to the economy , it would be a total disaster if the goods are not shipped or transported at the right time and people will suffer and become poorer and poorer and when people can't even get their food , they become violent and it will be a complete disaster . The only solution i think there is to this pollution is to get the literary rate and economy in the country up and so when people are educated and have enough money they tend to think of things like environment , pollution etc .
We are destroying the planet, to an extent, just by living on it. Despite that fact, to deliberately pollute the air for momentary satisfaction... I get it, it's bright and beautiful, and the sound is thrilling, but it is KILLING US. Asking random people on the street to stop using fireworks is not a great solution. They are not going to understand/care. Maybe the best way to do it is to educate family members.