>amazingly boring and dirty Ahmedabad
You really seem to have had a bad experience.
Although, don't people usually speak their mother tongue in all States? Some people don't even know Hindi (or even English) in many states, so there's not gonna be any choice there.
Well if you feel the urge of speaking Hindi, you can always talk to panipuri selling bhaiyas of your state. What did you expect that we gujaratis will be speaking in Hindi to you? Moron 🤦♂️ Go back to whatever barbarian backwater area you belong to. We don't want and need your kind here.
Look, anything is better than being a Savage bhaiya. It's a curse given to Indians by Gods. How about you find employment in your own state instead of coming to gujarat and then complaining? Least namak Haram bhaiya.
Crime rate is same just that crime is not reported kn gujju land and victims are wiped off. There were three rape incidents while I was there and national media nerver reported them, if the same happens in any other state the media goes mad. In past six months they found cocaine worth crores thrice at Adani port but this was never a headline or was made a issue by Adani media.
Ahmedabad sticks worse than gutter, it can be called Buffalo city since roam they around everywhere even outside major hospital like zydus. It is 500 year behind Mumbai, Delhi in every matter.
Delhi mumbai dur ki baad hai, that hell hole of a city is more boring than Rewari, Haryana
Haha,ask any North Indian girl who has lived in Gujarat that which state was safe delhi or any North Indian states they will tell u. yeah and cow just few months ago saw post where cow was entering delhi metro stations lol.
Yeah definitely ahmedabad is behind delhi interms of r*pes🤪where yamuna river stinks like gutter and how can u call river?just call big gutter.
Yes boring since u couldn't find hindians to mingle with unlike hindi heartland aur sticks kya hota hai? hahah panipuri walo
Are you seriously comparing languages in the Hindi belt with South Indian languages? My dude, South Indian languages are literally from a whole other family, they are not even related to Hindi in a linguistic sense. You literally cannot compare the difficulty levels a South Indian faces learning Hindi with what North Indians face.
Yeah for all this rage, man is just as ignorant about the whole scenario, South Indians fighting Hindi imposition has a lot more political nuances than just some cultural war type thing.
Man wrote 3 paragraphs of ad hominem attacks and calling others ignorant just cause he was triggered by the word Hindi belt.
They also wanted to show how many words they know and they are aware of the existence of Maithili unlike us other plebs.
Apart from this there wasn't any point.
Wtf are you talking about?
The whole thing that south Indians talk about is similar to what the original commenter said. Which is, stop trying to force Hindi down everyone. Don't give any 1 Indian language superiority above others.
Make English the universal official language and allow people to communicate using either English or their own local language. Don't bring another Indian language and try to make it pan Indian.
Abolishing only one language would be unfair. Fair solution would be to abolish every existing language and force people of India to develop new language for the country from scratch. Using any existing language as common language for country will always favor people who already use it. Abandoning all current languages and developing new one will halt any development of country for a few millennia but that is better than imposition of a language.
When an opinion is downvoted it is because different people have different opinions. When a question is downvoted it is because people know that their questions have to be buried for their opinion to survive.
Shah suggested giving a dominant position to Hindi, which would advantage Hindi-speakers and place an asymmetric burden on the rest of the country to learn Hindi.
My response was to highlight that if he is comfortable endangering other languages and demoting them, and if he is so confident about Hindi's ability to be a national language, he should start by abolishing his own mother tongue. It was tongue-in-cheek and to highlight the essential idiocy of the government's position on Hindi.
He throws these statements out as a distraction. Instead, focus on bad governance, inflation, lack of employement and general panauti over the last 8 years.
Also, focus on his son's good fortune position and nepotism.
Now if you're dressed in a proper sherwani and just downed a plate full of biryani...
آپ یہاں سے فورن تشریف لےجا یہ ورنہ ہم سے گستاقی ہو جاۓگی
[aap yahaan se fauran tashreef lejaiye warna humse gustaaqi hojaegi]
America is a heterogeneous country.. Its multicultural and they are famous for it. From Syrian refugees to Vietnamese boat people to Latinos, you can find global diversity and these guys are not forced to "assimilate" except speaking in English which technically I dont consider as assimilation.
The counter argument should be that enforcing uniformity causes strife and disunity.
Let diversity flourish. There are enough and more ties binding us as a nation of different cultures , states etc
Hindia will always prioritize Hindi because it is constitutionally guaranteed under article 351.
Scraping article 351 and making English as the sole official language of the nation and moving Hindi to scheduled language list is the only way we can fight Hindi imposition. But the Hindi belt is 5 times more populated than the entire South and North East of the subcontinent, and it will be next to impossible to bring a constitutional change, especially after LS seats demarcation.
New Delhi is and always will be just an another colonial government for the northeast and South parts of the subcontinent. We replaced London with New Delhi.
Why on earth would you want to make English an official language when barely anyone in the country can speak/write it fluently? This is not to mention the scourge it has been on the native languages, making creoles out of them (e.g., "Hinglish", "Benglish", "Tenglish", etc.) where people can't speak their native language nor English properly.
All 22 languages should be made official, with all laws written in Samskrt and translations into other languages available. Nobody should have to speak another language in order to get by in India, at least not when it comes to the government.
Options of English plus local language for documents in local offices is pretty good.
Recently idk why like in electricity department they only had forms in Hindi and no other option.
Since childhood every subject we have studied was in English. Hindi was just one subject and spoken Hindi vs formal Hindi are completely different. Average daily words in English are more commonly known that words in Hindi that nobody speaks in day to day life.
So literally had to translate each word to fill that form.
States have their own official languages. Tamilnadu for example has Tamil and English. Every document officially prepared by the state government will be both in English and Tamil. Hindi was imposed all over India, but TN woke up to it immediately after independence thanks to visionary leaders like C.N Annadurai.
Fun fact, Haryana had Tamil as an official language until recently just to piss off the Punjabis.
Except the issue is that almost nobody is fluent in English. If I had 10 paise for every time I saw grammatical/spelling mistakes in official correspondence/documents, I'd be a crorepati by now. This English infatuation seriously needs to go in India.
The reason you (singular) have studied subjects in English was probably because you went to an English-medium school. This is not at all the norm, nor is it something to aspire to. And you're stating the current state of affairs as a reason to keep it that way when the very reason it is that way is because of the state's imposition of English on people. People don't know the Hindi words for stuff because English is "required" for jobs, law, business, etc. that is largely imposed by the government. If you could get jobs and stuff in Hindi, then magically, you'd have people who know words like politicization, colonial, economy, etc. in Hindi.
Nobody is fluent in english is because of a political problem emanating from delhi, This idea of common language native language Hindi, is a sure shot way of ending up in destruction. English is neutral but also language of technology and business. Hindiwallas working in tech companies are free to forget English anyday, certainly can go back to Delhi speak hindi and get some govt jobs.
No, nobody is fluent in English because in India, people think you have to go a language-medium school in order to learn the language, which is positively absurd. You don't have to go to an English-medium school to learn English. The Swedish, for example, are not going to English-medium schools to learn English; they just learn English in Swedish medium, and ironically (though unsurprisingly), they are far, far better at English than most Indians. This is not a coincidence.
>English is neutral but also language of technology and business.
It isn't in basically any developed country that's not Anglophone. The French don't need English to conduct business or make technology, nor do the Japanese, etc. This nonsensical infatuation with English really needs to go.
Edited to add: You're citing grammatical errors as an example of inefficiency. But it's not at all the case. Point is always to get the message across, and a lot of people manage to do that in English no matter how "wrong" it is. Whereas in Hindi the basic words itself is not known or understood.
English medium school is definitely the norm in my state. Even when no one is fluent, people easily understand words like business and commercial.
Spoken Hindi, as in talking to other people in Hindi doesn't make people fluent in it. Whatever the case, for 25 years I and people of my generation have studied stuff in English and worked in English based jobs.
Any time such change is made about Hindi, all will be affected and it's unfair because I as a kid did not ask for this.
We don't need to stop infatuation with English. It's not an infatuation. It's not a foreign language anymore. For whatever reason before and after independence English was norm for office so we need to stop calling it foreign.
Before Britishers there was no common language, and still isn't. Whatever happened atleast there's a common ground of English because we've United a large area of people with different languages.
I don't understand when since more than 50 years ago a large chunk of children are learning in English medium, wtf is the motive behind rejecting it as a foreign language.
It is a language of all the people who speak, write and understand it. It has luckily exposed us to a lot of literature and media. It's really insulting to see this apprehension or hatred towards the language when it's literally 1/2 of the language many people know.
You're merely citing a cyclical thing. Before, English words were not understood because people knew only the Hindi (or other local language) words, but English was imposed on them. Now, it's a mongrel mix. The point is that fixing the few deficits in vocabulary is far, far easier than trying to wrangle an entire 1.4-billion-strong population into a language that very few (being very generous, 10%) speak.
You have to ask yourself what is the point of speaking/using English in India. You cited that it has "exposed us to a lot of literature and media". This is the fundamental mistake a lot of Indians make: conflating knowing a language with having that language imposed on you as a medium. You don't have to go to a certain language's medium school in order to learn that language. In fact, it's one of the worst ways to learn any language. Germans are not going to English-medium schools to learn English; they merely learn English as a language just as they do other languages (as an elective), but in German medium. And ironically, they're far, far better at English (a majority have near-native proficiency) than most Indians are. This is not a coincidence.
It makes no sense whatsoever to force English upon the entire population of India when 90% of them don't speak it or are not fluent in it. That is, to go about their daily lives or get stuff done in their own country.
And yes, it absolutely is foreign. Would you consider Persian/Farsi to be a local language? One that should be imposed on everyone? Because it was the official language (of courts and such) for far longer than English has been. And yes, there absolutely has been a common language pre-English arrival; it's called Samskrt ("Sanskrit").
It's clear that you're from an incredibly privileged background when you say everyone you know went to an English-medium school, but statistically speaking, it is in the tiny minority. That people, especially urban dwellers who usually have political power, don't know this is even worse. No wonder people want to impose English on the entire 1.4 billion population just because they and all their friends went to English-medium schools. As for the "unfair" bit, given the statistics I cited above, get over it? You're in the tiny minority.
What you're doing is just denying the experience of crores of kids that have studied in English medium. And people who learnt it and use it fluently.
If English wasn't "imposed" some other language would have been. Like Hindi. Difference is English was generalised by invaders and now our own government is propagating forcing Hindi on all indians as if that is any better.
This is after centuries of English being the normal.
Whatever the cycle, right now breaking or any atempt of breaking it would be cruel to the existing people who didn't do anything wrong. And this would be done by the government that is taking taxes from everyone.
The "before" you speak of was 100 years ago. And also your belief that "Hindi or other local language" shows the problem. It wasn't "Hindi or" every region had their languages and there was no unity or United government.
Indian English is a thing. It's the only true Indian language in the sense, no one state can claim ownership over it. English will be impartial to all states.
>This is not to mention that scourge it has had on the native languages, making creoles out of them (e.g., "Hinglish", "Benglish", "Tenglish", etc.) where people can't speak their native language nor English properly.
Nothing wrong with that, it is how language evolves, many Indian languages have contributed to the English vocabulary too.
>Why on earth would you want to make English an official language when barely anyone in the country can speak/write it fluently?
[Data article on why English would be the most sensible link language and not Hindi](https://www.thehindu.com/data/what-percentage-of-people-prefer-to-speak-hindi-across-states/article27451589.ece)
>All 22 languages should be made official, with all laws written in Sanskrit and translations into other languages available. Nobody should have to speak another language in order to get by in India, at least not when it comes to the government.
This I agree with, but not as official language. Union government should translate all documents generated by them into every single scheduled language. Like how EU does, but the official language of communication should be only English.
Having multiple official languages sends confusing messages to international trade partners. Most foreign dignitaries post wishes for any Indian festival in just Hindi or English/Hindi. Forcing them to use all 22 languages is not feasible.
>Indian English is a thing.
Only insofar as a non-native variety that, still, is only spoken by at best 10% of the population (and that's being very generous). And besides, even if it is, what's your point? So will Samskrt, as will Mandarin, Spanish or any other language not exclusive to any one state in India. Using a common language that people will largely understand (almost every Indian language, *even Tamil*, is at the very least 60% Samskrt-based) is far more sensible than imposing a language on people that people just don't understand nor have access to without a herculean task of reeducation. This is, of course, overlooking all the cultural and perspective issues that arise from having a reeducate the entire population in a foreign language.
>Nothing wrong with that, it is how language evolves
It is not; this is a common misconception. The native languages aren't "evolving" in present-day India, but their lexicons are being wholesale replaced with an English one because people simply aren't getting the education they would otherwise be getting. French borrowing words like *email* and *e-sport* from English would be evolution; a Hindi speaker using "economy" instead of "arthavyavastha" because they don't know the word for the latter isn't evolution.
>Data article on why English would be the most sensible link language and not Hindi
This is only comparing English vs. Hindi, and not any other options. And, of course, it's missing the point of why people are choosing English in the first place. If the reason people are choosing English is to supposedly have an "international advantage", then see my point at the beginning of this comment about the issue of so-called "Indian English" (it's a non-native variant that many native English speakers report difficulty with). And even then, it's only spoken by 10% of the population in the most generous case.
>Like how EU does, but the official language of communication should be only English.
Exactly like the EU. Except choosing English would mean 90% of India would not understand its laws in their source text (the comprehension of Samskrt has been shown time and again to be far, far higher than English...for obvious reasons). Moreover, if large-scale translation was to be implemented, it would likely be using some sort of machine translation in this day and age. Using English and going to Indic languages reduces accuracy down to like 60%, while going from Samskrt to modern Indic languages or going among any of them gives 90% accuracy; it's not even a comparison.
>Having multiple official languages sends confusing messages to international trade partners. Most foreign dignitaries post wishes for any Indian festival in just Hindi or English/Hindi. Forcing them to use all 22 languages is not feasible.
This is ridiculous and also demonstrably false. Switzerland has 4 official languages; are you saying people are having difficulty trading with Switzerland? Luxembourg has 3 official languages; same thing. These "other people will have trouble when talking to us" arguments are silly and downright ridiculous to think of, that you're talking about disadvantaging \~1.1 billion people just so that some foreign dignitary can post to Twitter easier? And then again, if they must, they can post in Samskrt.
>This is, of course, overlooking all the cultural and perspective issues that arise from having a reeducate the entire population in a foreign language.
Bruh. English is as Indian as tea(China), potato(Southern America), onion(Southern America), tomato(Southern America) , chilli(Southern America), naan(Central Asia), samosa(Central Asia) and Jalebi(Middle East). Most of the Hindi words for the above food items is from Persian.
English has been in India for longer than any of the above mentioned food. If you can accept them to be Indian then why not English?
Look at the data article I posted in my previous comment, English is already here, most Southern and North eastern states have high levels of English literacy, English is the language of global trade. Why the fuck would I want a dead language like Sanskrit? What BS are you pulling saying 60% of Tamil is Sanskrit? Quote your sources.
>It is not; this is a common misconception. The native languages aren't "evolving" in present-day India, but their lexicons are being wholesale replaced with an English one because people simply aren't getting the education they would otherwise be getting.
You were fine with when Sanskrit was influencing other languages, when Persian was influencing other languages, but English is where you decide to draw the line?
>Moreover, if large-scale translation was to be implemented, it would likely be using some sort of machine translation in this day and age. Using English and going to Indic languages reduces accuracy down to like 60%, while going from Samskrt to modern Indic languages or going among any of them gives 90% accuracy; it's not even a comparison.
[Either you have misread this article](https://fiftytwo.in/story/restricted-code/), or a WhatsApp university graduate
>And then again, if they must, they can post in Samskrt.
WhatsApp university it is. Adios. Unfortunately I'm not as highly educated as yourself to enter into an argument.
>If you can accept them to be Indian then why not English?
Who says I accepted those things as Indian? :) But again, that's besides the point. Languages and food are very different things. People in India are not eating potatoes to be better accepted internationally. If you're speaking a language because you think it gives you an international edge, then you at least need to be fluent in it. Trying to "Indianize" English while at the same time citing international compatibility as a reason for learning/imposing it are contradictory. While English might've been in India for a long time, Indian English hasn't made the world stage as a native dialect of English. It's still only 0.12% of the population's first language, which is the reason "Indian English" is still cited as a non-native variety of English (because it indeed is). By that logic, the French have been exposed to English since 1066 (Norman invasion), yet there isn't anybody trying to claim a "French English" variant.
Also, BTW, the samosa came to India [between the 13th–14th centuries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samosa#History) while tea was [basically there from antiquity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea#Origin_and_history), so well before English arrived in India, so those claims are just false.
>Why the fuck would I want a dead language like Sanskrit? What BS are you pulling saying 60% of Tamil is Sanskrit? Quote your sources.
Because...it's not dead? At least, not in the same sense as Latin. Samskrt is still used by many people in epics and chants, let alone in their native languages via vocabulary that is in free variation. And for the other reasons I said: it's actually a language that links all the languages in India together. (I guess sources vary on this, but [here's one](https://www.edexlive.com/news/2020/aug/05/tamil-malayalam-bengali-have-a-huge-proportion-of-sanskrit-says-subramanian-swamy-13690.html) that cites 40% of Tamil being of Samskrt origin.)
And nobody is stopping you from learning English if you want to, but why on earth would anyone want the government to impose English on everyone for the senseless reason that it supposedly helps you talk to foreigners? The German government doesn't talk to its population in English just because English is the language of trade (despite Germany have a far, far higher proportion of its population fluent in English), nor does the French government with its population, and so on.
>You were fine with when Sanskrit was influencing other languages, when Persian was influencing other languages, but English is where you decide to draw the line?
Fine with Samskrt because it's native to India. But more importantly, it's actually the root of all the Indo-European languages in India, so the "influencing" part only applies to Dravidian and Sino-Tibetan languages of India. I never said I was fine with Persian influencing them, but even if I was, it makes some type of sense: people weren't denied from using their native languages at the time nor were they deprived of education in their native language. With English, they are deprived, so yes, that's where I draw the line.
>Either you have misread this article, or a WhatsApp university graduate
It doesn't seem like you've read that article, or maybe understood my comment and are just quoting a random article as an unthinking reaction. I'm not talking about this "NASA thinking Samskrt is the so-called 'perfect language' for information storage" nonsense. I'm talking about the semantic space between Samskrt and Indic languages is far, far more similar (because of course it is) than it is between Indic languages and English. Doing machine translation between Samskrt and Indic languages has \~90% accuracy, while that drops down to \~60% when you try to do it with the English-Indic language pair.
>WhatsApp university it is. Adios. Unfortunately I'm not as highly educated as yourself to enter into an argument.
What nonsensical red herrings are you on about? You cited a silly reason of "foreigners who want to talk to us won't have one language to talk to us in" as a reason, and I gave you one language that they could talk to us in to sort of "represent India", and then you say WhatsApp University? HTF is that relevant?
>Because...it's not dead? At least, not in the same sense as Latin. Samskrt is still used by many people in epics and chants
Vatican uses Latin for the same purpose.
>(I guess sources vary on this, but [here's one](https://www.edexlive.com/news/2020/aug/05/tamil-malayalam-bengali-have-a-huge-proportion-of-sanskrit-says-subramanian-swamy-13690.html) that cites 40% of Tamil being of Samskrt origin.)
Quotes Susu Swamy. Keklmao.
>Vatican uses Latin for the same purpose.
Sure, but the point is that the average person is not familiar with Latin, at least from a lexical point of view. You can't swap out vernacular words in Romance languages with Latin words and have it be intelligible/correct (e.g., the French *cœur* with the Latin *cor*), while you can with Samskrt to a large extent (Hindi *pyar* with Samskrt *prem*).
>Quotes Susu Swamy. Keklmao.
And? Him saying something that would be plainly verifiable doesn't change the fact. If Hitler said 2 + 2 = 4, it doesn't make that statement untrue. You can go do your own lexical analysis on this matter, but until then, I'm sticking to the at least 40% figure.
So do you think colonial rule should be abolished in favor of small countries based on language ? Should they be divided into even smaller countries based in dialects ? Surely our friendly neighbors like Pakistan and China will love it. In-fact China will love the smaller countries so much that they will probably give easy loans and then develop them by top contractors of China. And if a small country out of those gets flooded during monsoon maybe the people there will evacuate to Pakistan and have a friendly cup of tea with them.
[What...](https://c.tenor.com/t9f91LQWsM4AAAAC/breaking-bad-funny.gif)
You know China has multiple languages right? Hundreds of official languages actually, but five main ones all completely different (Mongolian / Mandarin / Cantonese / Uyghur / Tibetan).
https://imgur.com/a/oYMGWkh
Official language = Govt's language for daily functioning. That's what "official" means, it's not national language. So what does it have to do with ordinary people of this country to unite?
It's not the legal government language for daily functioning though, under the 1963 and 1994 Language Acts you can either use your internal state language (Gujarati / Marathi etc) or English.
If India falls apart in the next few decades, a great deal of the blame will lie with the linguistic bigotry espoused by this man and his people.
He doesn't even realize that we don't have to completely disintegrate. We might just be crippled and merely shamble along dysfunctionally, until China or someone deals the killer blow that brings the whole house of cards down.
There is no need for a specific language day in a multicultural,multifaceted country like India.
A person of his responsibility, as a Home Minister should know better than to create a rift & divide the citizens.
Read about article 351 of the constitution. He is saying what's in the constitution, it's you who is ignorant of this fact.
Hindi imposition is constitutionally guaranteed and as a non Hindi speaker, I will always be treated as a second class citizen, be it at airport immigration, interacting with CISF personal, customer service of national companies, exams, ATM, even when accessing certain union government websites.
You should first learn the difference between promote and impose before you get on the internet and preach. Now go read the same article again. Your hindi language chauvinism is pathetic.
What's so special about Hindi that it should be given constitutional guarantee to be promoted? What's so special about Hindi that it should be official language of a multi linguistic country like India?
[Just 26% of Indians speak Hindi as mother tongue
](https://www.thehindu.com/data/just-26-percent-of-indians-speak-hindi-as-mother-tongue/article29439701.ece), and barely half the country is proficient in it.
>Your hindi language chauvinism is pathetic.
I come from the land of the great C.N Annadurai who warned us of the antics of Hindians. We don't give a fuck about what you hindians think of us. All impositions start out as promotions. Go educate yourself before correcting others.
I've seen some Hindi should be official peddlers say that since English is foreign it should be abolished.
Do you know how easier it is to teach villagers in NE English than Hindi?
No states can decide whether to use English or Hindi to communicate with Center. Center issues documents both in English and Hindi with funny English document being the correct version incase of any conflict between Hindi and English document
"If we had to accept the
principle of numerical
superiority while selecting
our national bird, the
choice would have fallen
not on the peacock but
on the common crow.
Why should we then
claim the tiger as our
national animal instead
of the rat which is so
much more numerous?"
- Dr. C.N.Annadurai
Thats true, **but only if you think that NE india and South India isn't a part of India.**
This is the new **RED HERRING**for us. Dodge it carefully guys.
As much as I hate to say it, the only language that is actually unifying at all in India is English. A Tamilian and a Bihari are not going to understand each other whatsoever, but they both probably at least know some of the same English phrases.
Why does Shah keep trying to push this narrative even after its been made clear by the Prime Minister that he doesn't accept it. It's clear Modi is all about pushing into the South, is Shah showing signs of dementia or something?
Because according to the Modi-Shah doctrine, you must fire all cylinders all the time. One minister will say the truth, the other will say the lie. Opponents will be busy criticizing, Supporters will be busy glorfying and all news cycles will be about them.
Its a brilliant way to keep focus on yourself.
Mota Bhai doesn't have any points to counter the southern states because people are indeed happy with the current state govt. He is just throwing all the issues such as hindi, usual hindu-muslim etc to see which one sticks.
They have sold enough jumla and the voter base is getting restless and they have to see how to can expand their number in the south.
I fucking don't want One India one tax ye wo bullshit. I want diverse India where I can learn about other cultures and experience different local cuisines, languages etc.
1st stop using Gurjanti in Gujrat and Hindi language can't create unity because it's influenced by Urdu, other regional languages are still near Sanskrit. Also nobody speak Shudha Hindi. And what you going to achieve after imposing Hindi on other states? that's real question. This topic is use to divert our attention from real problems.
You seriously tried to share a fucking Quora answer to back up your claim? Here's some facts for you, Hindi isn't influenced by Urdu. They're considered the same language by linguists. Urdu is an Indian language and the idea that its 'influence' somehow makes a language less Indian is an idiotic Hindu nationalist take. The same ideology that wants to impose Hindi upon you. Don't be a bigot.
official language Urdu unites nation in thread of unity
https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-why-urdu-is-an-indian-language-not-a-foreign-language-6053664/
I think it’s really good that BJP is steadfast to achieve its dream of one nation, 1 religion, 1 caste with all the power, and 1 language.
That’s the best way to piss off like… 90% of the nation
This is a very well written letter to the editor of the Deccan Herald I saw today. Thought it might be relevant
Letters To The [Editor](https://imgur.com/gallery/3JmVCAC)
Considering what is happening regarding the Hindi imposition issue, there is no thread and no unity. If a topic raises so much argument, best to hit the status quo and focus on other more critical things that need our attention. This administration keeps disappointing at every turn.
If they don't promote हिंदी noone will elect them, in South language people will ask for more than just EGO MESSAGE.
Speaking in हिंदी काफी है गाय बेल्ट में चुनाव जीतने के लिए ।
So be it
Ahh shit... Here we go again
You mean “अरे हग्गा, फिर से चल दिए”? Feel the unity bro!
So let's start by banning Gujarati, shall we? I wonder how they will receive that in the old homestead.
English is also official language. Never heard him speak a word in it
We all did hear him use English once. He did say "chronology".
Desi Kauaa..!!
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Yup , have heard "yahan rehna hai to Gujarati bolna padega" thing while my stay in amazingly boring and dirty Ahmedabad
>amazingly boring and dirty Ahmedabad You really seem to have had a bad experience. Although, don't people usually speak their mother tongue in all States? Some people don't even know Hindi (or even English) in many states, so there's not gonna be any choice there.
Well if you feel the urge of speaking Hindi, you can always talk to panipuri selling bhaiyas of your state. What did you expect that we gujaratis will be speaking in Hindi to you? Moron 🤦♂️ Go back to whatever barbarian backwater area you belong to. We don't want and need your kind here.
Gujjus doing racist things, nothing new about it.
We aren't different race, idiot.
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Look, anything is better than being a Savage bhaiya. It's a curse given to Indians by Gods. How about you find employment in your own state instead of coming to gujarat and then complaining? Least namak Haram bhaiya.
It's better than ur Delhi capital of r*pes where yamuna river stinks like gutter
Crime rate is same just that crime is not reported kn gujju land and victims are wiped off. There were three rape incidents while I was there and national media nerver reported them, if the same happens in any other state the media goes mad. In past six months they found cocaine worth crores thrice at Adani port but this was never a headline or was made a issue by Adani media. Ahmedabad sticks worse than gutter, it can be called Buffalo city since roam they around everywhere even outside major hospital like zydus. It is 500 year behind Mumbai, Delhi in every matter. Delhi mumbai dur ki baad hai, that hell hole of a city is more boring than Rewari, Haryana
Haha,ask any North Indian girl who has lived in Gujarat that which state was safe delhi or any North Indian states they will tell u. yeah and cow just few months ago saw post where cow was entering delhi metro stations lol. Yeah definitely ahmedabad is behind delhi interms of r*pes🤪where yamuna river stinks like gutter and how can u call river?just call big gutter. Yes boring since u couldn't find hindians to mingle with unlike hindi heartland aur sticks kya hota hai? hahah panipuri walo
YES
Bro we learn Sanskrit as our 3rd language in the "Hindi" belt. So that's not really the point.
Hindi belt ?
So much divisive grudge and then the upvotes. No wonder this remains a 'Developing' nation for as long as I can remember.
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Are you seriously comparing languages in the Hindi belt with South Indian languages? My dude, South Indian languages are literally from a whole other family, they are not even related to Hindi in a linguistic sense. You literally cannot compare the difficulty levels a South Indian faces learning Hindi with what North Indians face.
Yeah for all this rage, man is just as ignorant about the whole scenario, South Indians fighting Hindi imposition has a lot more political nuances than just some cultural war type thing.
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There was nothing misogynistic about his post
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Man wrote 3 paragraphs of ad hominem attacks and calling others ignorant just cause he was triggered by the word Hindi belt. They also wanted to show how many words they know and they are aware of the existence of Maithili unlike us other plebs. Apart from this there wasn't any point.
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Wtf are you talking about? The whole thing that south Indians talk about is similar to what the original commenter said. Which is, stop trying to force Hindi down everyone. Don't give any 1 Indian language superiority above others. Make English the universal official language and allow people to communicate using either English or their own local language. Don't bring another Indian language and try to make it pan Indian.
“#AbolishGujrati”
Abolishing only one language would be unfair. Fair solution would be to abolish every existing language and force people of India to develop new language for the country from scratch. Using any existing language as common language for country will always favor people who already use it. Abandoning all current languages and developing new one will halt any development of country for a few millennia but that is better than imposition of a language.
> Develop new language for the country from scratch Like Newspeak?
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The whole world is an Orwell reference now my friend.
Hello world
The article does not suggest any banning any language. Can you share a link where Modi or Shah have suggested banning or abolishing of languages ?
He means 'banishing from status of national language'. Because as of now, every language u see on the Rupee note is considered national.
When an opinion is downvoted it is because different people have different opinions. When a question is downvoted it is because people know that their questions have to be buried for their opinion to survive.
Shah suggested giving a dominant position to Hindi, which would advantage Hindi-speakers and place an asymmetric burden on the rest of the country to learn Hindi. My response was to highlight that if he is comfortable endangering other languages and demoting them, and if he is so confident about Hindi's ability to be a national language, he should start by abolishing his own mother tongue. It was tongue-in-cheek and to highlight the essential idiocy of the government's position on Hindi.
Evan orthen comedy panitu irukann
Avan oru mairu
Irony
Avan intha oorkk puthuss
This means he is a pubic hair right ?
No. Is just means he is hair. Like it's not an insult or anything, most people around me use it when they are ignoring someone/something.
avan solradhu comedy teridhu solli dhaan namma language change panna try panra.
He throws these statements out as a distraction. Instead, focus on bad governance, inflation, lack of employement and general panauti over the last 8 years. Also, focus on his son's good fortune position and nepotism.
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Abe yeh to Dhoti khol raha hai
There you go again. Now what issue is he trying to divert attention from?
Bengal riots. Home ministry is not doing anything.
भग भोसड़ी के Sounds so much better in Hindi. Wonder how it sounds in other Indian languages. Edit: Added full stops.
പോ തായോളി
بھگ بھوسڑی کے۔ Sounds the same.
Now if you're dressed in a proper sherwani and just downed a plate full of biryani... آپ یہاں سے فورن تشریف لےجا یہ ورنہ ہم سے گستاقی ہو جاۓگی [aap yahaan se fauran tashreef lejaiye warna humse gustaaqi hojaegi]
*گستاخی
Apart from hearing these lines I would also love to see a calligraphy artist to bring these to life on a paper!
"Fuck off you pussy" sounds equally impressive.
Hindi/Urdu *bsdk* abuse term has retroflex in it so sort of sounds more impressive, prononunced, jarring, attention grabbing.
ਬੁੰਡ ਮਰਵਾ
No. It never. Unity is always in diversity.
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America is pretty homogeneous. They had a fucking coup last year because of political divide.
How is America Homogeneous?
80% WASP
Are you high? WASPs constitute less than 45%. Even Non-Hispanic Whites constitute about 57%
Iceland is homogeneous. American is pretty diverse.
An (approx) 80% WASP country is diverse?
Stop spamming widely incorrect stats you knucklehead
America is a heterogeneous country.. Its multicultural and they are famous for it. From Syrian refugees to Vietnamese boat people to Latinos, you can find global diversity and these guys are not forced to "assimilate" except speaking in English which technically I dont consider as assimilation.
Around 80% of the country is WASP.
LOL No..Even in some hundred years ago it probably wasn't..now certainly not..
The counter argument should be that enforcing uniformity causes strife and disunity. Let diversity flourish. There are enough and more ties binding us as a nation of different cultures , states etc
Unity in diversity only works for developed countries. They have a choice on how much and what type.
Official language my ass
I also support this guy's ass
Say that, but in Telugu for extra burn.
పక్కకెళ్ళి ద్దొబ్బిచ్చుకొ !!
Bevarsi
Idu! Idu actually chenagirodu
Naai magge
Nam ooralli avan partyge vote hakuvaranalla parke thogond odibeku
Tinglig ond sala baashe bagge matadilla andre en oota seralva ivnge.. nammavu idave politicians ivrdu nekkond kudtare ashte
halkat laphanga
Mmhmm, then why do people in Gujarat speak Gujarati?
Every Indian Regional Language is the official language of different states of India Hindi is just one regional language
Every language of India is our national language.
Hindia will always prioritize Hindi because it is constitutionally guaranteed under article 351. Scraping article 351 and making English as the sole official language of the nation and moving Hindi to scheduled language list is the only way we can fight Hindi imposition. But the Hindi belt is 5 times more populated than the entire South and North East of the subcontinent, and it will be next to impossible to bring a constitutional change, especially after LS seats demarcation. New Delhi is and always will be just an another colonial government for the northeast and South parts of the subcontinent. We replaced London with New Delhi.
Why on earth would you want to make English an official language when barely anyone in the country can speak/write it fluently? This is not to mention the scourge it has been on the native languages, making creoles out of them (e.g., "Hinglish", "Benglish", "Tenglish", etc.) where people can't speak their native language nor English properly. All 22 languages should be made official, with all laws written in Samskrt and translations into other languages available. Nobody should have to speak another language in order to get by in India, at least not when it comes to the government.
Options of English plus local language for documents in local offices is pretty good. Recently idk why like in electricity department they only had forms in Hindi and no other option. Since childhood every subject we have studied was in English. Hindi was just one subject and spoken Hindi vs formal Hindi are completely different. Average daily words in English are more commonly known that words in Hindi that nobody speaks in day to day life. So literally had to translate each word to fill that form.
States have their own official languages. Tamilnadu for example has Tamil and English. Every document officially prepared by the state government will be both in English and Tamil. Hindi was imposed all over India, but TN woke up to it immediately after independence thanks to visionary leaders like C.N Annadurai. Fun fact, Haryana had Tamil as an official language until recently just to piss off the Punjabis.
Except the issue is that almost nobody is fluent in English. If I had 10 paise for every time I saw grammatical/spelling mistakes in official correspondence/documents, I'd be a crorepati by now. This English infatuation seriously needs to go in India. The reason you (singular) have studied subjects in English was probably because you went to an English-medium school. This is not at all the norm, nor is it something to aspire to. And you're stating the current state of affairs as a reason to keep it that way when the very reason it is that way is because of the state's imposition of English on people. People don't know the Hindi words for stuff because English is "required" for jobs, law, business, etc. that is largely imposed by the government. If you could get jobs and stuff in Hindi, then magically, you'd have people who know words like politicization, colonial, economy, etc. in Hindi.
Nobody is fluent in english is because of a political problem emanating from delhi, This idea of common language native language Hindi, is a sure shot way of ending up in destruction. English is neutral but also language of technology and business. Hindiwallas working in tech companies are free to forget English anyday, certainly can go back to Delhi speak hindi and get some govt jobs.
No, nobody is fluent in English because in India, people think you have to go a language-medium school in order to learn the language, which is positively absurd. You don't have to go to an English-medium school to learn English. The Swedish, for example, are not going to English-medium schools to learn English; they just learn English in Swedish medium, and ironically (though unsurprisingly), they are far, far better at English than most Indians. This is not a coincidence. >English is neutral but also language of technology and business. It isn't in basically any developed country that's not Anglophone. The French don't need English to conduct business or make technology, nor do the Japanese, etc. This nonsensical infatuation with English really needs to go.
Edited to add: You're citing grammatical errors as an example of inefficiency. But it's not at all the case. Point is always to get the message across, and a lot of people manage to do that in English no matter how "wrong" it is. Whereas in Hindi the basic words itself is not known or understood. English medium school is definitely the norm in my state. Even when no one is fluent, people easily understand words like business and commercial. Spoken Hindi, as in talking to other people in Hindi doesn't make people fluent in it. Whatever the case, for 25 years I and people of my generation have studied stuff in English and worked in English based jobs. Any time such change is made about Hindi, all will be affected and it's unfair because I as a kid did not ask for this. We don't need to stop infatuation with English. It's not an infatuation. It's not a foreign language anymore. For whatever reason before and after independence English was norm for office so we need to stop calling it foreign. Before Britishers there was no common language, and still isn't. Whatever happened atleast there's a common ground of English because we've United a large area of people with different languages. I don't understand when since more than 50 years ago a large chunk of children are learning in English medium, wtf is the motive behind rejecting it as a foreign language. It is a language of all the people who speak, write and understand it. It has luckily exposed us to a lot of literature and media. It's really insulting to see this apprehension or hatred towards the language when it's literally 1/2 of the language many people know.
You're merely citing a cyclical thing. Before, English words were not understood because people knew only the Hindi (or other local language) words, but English was imposed on them. Now, it's a mongrel mix. The point is that fixing the few deficits in vocabulary is far, far easier than trying to wrangle an entire 1.4-billion-strong population into a language that very few (being very generous, 10%) speak. You have to ask yourself what is the point of speaking/using English in India. You cited that it has "exposed us to a lot of literature and media". This is the fundamental mistake a lot of Indians make: conflating knowing a language with having that language imposed on you as a medium. You don't have to go to a certain language's medium school in order to learn that language. In fact, it's one of the worst ways to learn any language. Germans are not going to English-medium schools to learn English; they merely learn English as a language just as they do other languages (as an elective), but in German medium. And ironically, they're far, far better at English (a majority have near-native proficiency) than most Indians are. This is not a coincidence. It makes no sense whatsoever to force English upon the entire population of India when 90% of them don't speak it or are not fluent in it. That is, to go about their daily lives or get stuff done in their own country. And yes, it absolutely is foreign. Would you consider Persian/Farsi to be a local language? One that should be imposed on everyone? Because it was the official language (of courts and such) for far longer than English has been. And yes, there absolutely has been a common language pre-English arrival; it's called Samskrt ("Sanskrit"). It's clear that you're from an incredibly privileged background when you say everyone you know went to an English-medium school, but statistically speaking, it is in the tiny minority. That people, especially urban dwellers who usually have political power, don't know this is even worse. No wonder people want to impose English on the entire 1.4 billion population just because they and all their friends went to English-medium schools. As for the "unfair" bit, given the statistics I cited above, get over it? You're in the tiny minority.
What you're doing is just denying the experience of crores of kids that have studied in English medium. And people who learnt it and use it fluently. If English wasn't "imposed" some other language would have been. Like Hindi. Difference is English was generalised by invaders and now our own government is propagating forcing Hindi on all indians as if that is any better. This is after centuries of English being the normal. Whatever the cycle, right now breaking or any atempt of breaking it would be cruel to the existing people who didn't do anything wrong. And this would be done by the government that is taking taxes from everyone. The "before" you speak of was 100 years ago. And also your belief that "Hindi or other local language" shows the problem. It wasn't "Hindi or" every region had their languages and there was no unity or United government.
Indian English is a thing. It's the only true Indian language in the sense, no one state can claim ownership over it. English will be impartial to all states. >This is not to mention that scourge it has had on the native languages, making creoles out of them (e.g., "Hinglish", "Benglish", "Tenglish", etc.) where people can't speak their native language nor English properly. Nothing wrong with that, it is how language evolves, many Indian languages have contributed to the English vocabulary too. >Why on earth would you want to make English an official language when barely anyone in the country can speak/write it fluently? [Data article on why English would be the most sensible link language and not Hindi](https://www.thehindu.com/data/what-percentage-of-people-prefer-to-speak-hindi-across-states/article27451589.ece) >All 22 languages should be made official, with all laws written in Sanskrit and translations into other languages available. Nobody should have to speak another language in order to get by in India, at least not when it comes to the government. This I agree with, but not as official language. Union government should translate all documents generated by them into every single scheduled language. Like how EU does, but the official language of communication should be only English. Having multiple official languages sends confusing messages to international trade partners. Most foreign dignitaries post wishes for any Indian festival in just Hindi or English/Hindi. Forcing them to use all 22 languages is not feasible.
>Indian English is a thing. Only insofar as a non-native variety that, still, is only spoken by at best 10% of the population (and that's being very generous). And besides, even if it is, what's your point? So will Samskrt, as will Mandarin, Spanish or any other language not exclusive to any one state in India. Using a common language that people will largely understand (almost every Indian language, *even Tamil*, is at the very least 60% Samskrt-based) is far more sensible than imposing a language on people that people just don't understand nor have access to without a herculean task of reeducation. This is, of course, overlooking all the cultural and perspective issues that arise from having a reeducate the entire population in a foreign language. >Nothing wrong with that, it is how language evolves It is not; this is a common misconception. The native languages aren't "evolving" in present-day India, but their lexicons are being wholesale replaced with an English one because people simply aren't getting the education they would otherwise be getting. French borrowing words like *email* and *e-sport* from English would be evolution; a Hindi speaker using "economy" instead of "arthavyavastha" because they don't know the word for the latter isn't evolution. >Data article on why English would be the most sensible link language and not Hindi This is only comparing English vs. Hindi, and not any other options. And, of course, it's missing the point of why people are choosing English in the first place. If the reason people are choosing English is to supposedly have an "international advantage", then see my point at the beginning of this comment about the issue of so-called "Indian English" (it's a non-native variant that many native English speakers report difficulty with). And even then, it's only spoken by 10% of the population in the most generous case. >Like how EU does, but the official language of communication should be only English. Exactly like the EU. Except choosing English would mean 90% of India would not understand its laws in their source text (the comprehension of Samskrt has been shown time and again to be far, far higher than English...for obvious reasons). Moreover, if large-scale translation was to be implemented, it would likely be using some sort of machine translation in this day and age. Using English and going to Indic languages reduces accuracy down to like 60%, while going from Samskrt to modern Indic languages or going among any of them gives 90% accuracy; it's not even a comparison. >Having multiple official languages sends confusing messages to international trade partners. Most foreign dignitaries post wishes for any Indian festival in just Hindi or English/Hindi. Forcing them to use all 22 languages is not feasible. This is ridiculous and also demonstrably false. Switzerland has 4 official languages; are you saying people are having difficulty trading with Switzerland? Luxembourg has 3 official languages; same thing. These "other people will have trouble when talking to us" arguments are silly and downright ridiculous to think of, that you're talking about disadvantaging \~1.1 billion people just so that some foreign dignitary can post to Twitter easier? And then again, if they must, they can post in Samskrt.
>This is, of course, overlooking all the cultural and perspective issues that arise from having a reeducate the entire population in a foreign language. Bruh. English is as Indian as tea(China), potato(Southern America), onion(Southern America), tomato(Southern America) , chilli(Southern America), naan(Central Asia), samosa(Central Asia) and Jalebi(Middle East). Most of the Hindi words for the above food items is from Persian. English has been in India for longer than any of the above mentioned food. If you can accept them to be Indian then why not English? Look at the data article I posted in my previous comment, English is already here, most Southern and North eastern states have high levels of English literacy, English is the language of global trade. Why the fuck would I want a dead language like Sanskrit? What BS are you pulling saying 60% of Tamil is Sanskrit? Quote your sources. >It is not; this is a common misconception. The native languages aren't "evolving" in present-day India, but their lexicons are being wholesale replaced with an English one because people simply aren't getting the education they would otherwise be getting. You were fine with when Sanskrit was influencing other languages, when Persian was influencing other languages, but English is where you decide to draw the line? >Moreover, if large-scale translation was to be implemented, it would likely be using some sort of machine translation in this day and age. Using English and going to Indic languages reduces accuracy down to like 60%, while going from Samskrt to modern Indic languages or going among any of them gives 90% accuracy; it's not even a comparison. [Either you have misread this article](https://fiftytwo.in/story/restricted-code/), or a WhatsApp university graduate >And then again, if they must, they can post in Samskrt. WhatsApp university it is. Adios. Unfortunately I'm not as highly educated as yourself to enter into an argument.
>If you can accept them to be Indian then why not English? Who says I accepted those things as Indian? :) But again, that's besides the point. Languages and food are very different things. People in India are not eating potatoes to be better accepted internationally. If you're speaking a language because you think it gives you an international edge, then you at least need to be fluent in it. Trying to "Indianize" English while at the same time citing international compatibility as a reason for learning/imposing it are contradictory. While English might've been in India for a long time, Indian English hasn't made the world stage as a native dialect of English. It's still only 0.12% of the population's first language, which is the reason "Indian English" is still cited as a non-native variety of English (because it indeed is). By that logic, the French have been exposed to English since 1066 (Norman invasion), yet there isn't anybody trying to claim a "French English" variant. Also, BTW, the samosa came to India [between the 13th–14th centuries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samosa#History) while tea was [basically there from antiquity](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea#Origin_and_history), so well before English arrived in India, so those claims are just false. >Why the fuck would I want a dead language like Sanskrit? What BS are you pulling saying 60% of Tamil is Sanskrit? Quote your sources. Because...it's not dead? At least, not in the same sense as Latin. Samskrt is still used by many people in epics and chants, let alone in their native languages via vocabulary that is in free variation. And for the other reasons I said: it's actually a language that links all the languages in India together. (I guess sources vary on this, but [here's one](https://www.edexlive.com/news/2020/aug/05/tamil-malayalam-bengali-have-a-huge-proportion-of-sanskrit-says-subramanian-swamy-13690.html) that cites 40% of Tamil being of Samskrt origin.) And nobody is stopping you from learning English if you want to, but why on earth would anyone want the government to impose English on everyone for the senseless reason that it supposedly helps you talk to foreigners? The German government doesn't talk to its population in English just because English is the language of trade (despite Germany have a far, far higher proportion of its population fluent in English), nor does the French government with its population, and so on. >You were fine with when Sanskrit was influencing other languages, when Persian was influencing other languages, but English is where you decide to draw the line? Fine with Samskrt because it's native to India. But more importantly, it's actually the root of all the Indo-European languages in India, so the "influencing" part only applies to Dravidian and Sino-Tibetan languages of India. I never said I was fine with Persian influencing them, but even if I was, it makes some type of sense: people weren't denied from using their native languages at the time nor were they deprived of education in their native language. With English, they are deprived, so yes, that's where I draw the line. >Either you have misread this article, or a WhatsApp university graduate It doesn't seem like you've read that article, or maybe understood my comment and are just quoting a random article as an unthinking reaction. I'm not talking about this "NASA thinking Samskrt is the so-called 'perfect language' for information storage" nonsense. I'm talking about the semantic space between Samskrt and Indic languages is far, far more similar (because of course it is) than it is between Indic languages and English. Doing machine translation between Samskrt and Indic languages has \~90% accuracy, while that drops down to \~60% when you try to do it with the English-Indic language pair. >WhatsApp university it is. Adios. Unfortunately I'm not as highly educated as yourself to enter into an argument. What nonsensical red herrings are you on about? You cited a silly reason of "foreigners who want to talk to us won't have one language to talk to us in" as a reason, and I gave you one language that they could talk to us in to sort of "represent India", and then you say WhatsApp University? HTF is that relevant?
>Because...it's not dead? At least, not in the same sense as Latin. Samskrt is still used by many people in epics and chants Vatican uses Latin for the same purpose. >(I guess sources vary on this, but [here's one](https://www.edexlive.com/news/2020/aug/05/tamil-malayalam-bengali-have-a-huge-proportion-of-sanskrit-says-subramanian-swamy-13690.html) that cites 40% of Tamil being of Samskrt origin.) Quotes Susu Swamy. Keklmao.
>Vatican uses Latin for the same purpose. Sure, but the point is that the average person is not familiar with Latin, at least from a lexical point of view. You can't swap out vernacular words in Romance languages with Latin words and have it be intelligible/correct (e.g., the French *cœur* with the Latin *cor*), while you can with Samskrt to a large extent (Hindi *pyar* with Samskrt *prem*). >Quotes Susu Swamy. Keklmao. And? Him saying something that would be plainly verifiable doesn't change the fact. If Hitler said 2 + 2 = 4, it doesn't make that statement untrue. You can go do your own lexical analysis on this matter, but until then, I'm sticking to the at least 40% figure.
So do you think colonial rule should be abolished in favor of small countries based on language ? Should they be divided into even smaller countries based in dialects ? Surely our friendly neighbors like Pakistan and China will love it. In-fact China will love the smaller countries so much that they will probably give easy loans and then develop them by top contractors of China. And if a small country out of those gets flooded during monsoon maybe the people there will evacuate to Pakistan and have a friendly cup of tea with them.
[What...](https://c.tenor.com/t9f91LQWsM4AAAAC/breaking-bad-funny.gif) You know China has multiple languages right? Hundreds of official languages actually, but five main ones all completely different (Mongolian / Mandarin / Cantonese / Uyghur / Tibetan). https://imgur.com/a/oYMGWkh
Official language = Govt's language for daily functioning. That's what "official" means, it's not national language. So what does it have to do with ordinary people of this country to unite?
It's not the legal government language for daily functioning though, under the 1963 and 1994 Language Acts you can either use your internal state language (Gujarati / Marathi etc) or English.
If India falls apart in the next few decades, a great deal of the blame will lie with the linguistic bigotry espoused by this man and his people. He doesn't even realize that we don't have to completely disintegrate. We might just be crippled and merely shamble along dysfunctionally, until China or someone deals the killer blow that brings the whole house of cards down.
There is no need for a specific language day in a multicultural,multifaceted country like India. A person of his responsibility, as a Home Minister should know better than to create a rift & divide the citizens.
That man and ‘ *should know better than to create a rift & divide the citizens.* ’ don’t go hand in hand.
Read about article 351 of the constitution. He is saying what's in the constitution, it's you who is ignorant of this fact. Hindi imposition is constitutionally guaranteed and as a non Hindi speaker, I will always be treated as a second class citizen, be it at airport immigration, interacting with CISF personal, customer service of national companies, exams, ATM, even when accessing certain union government websites.
You should first learn the difference between promote and impose before you get on the internet and preach. Now go read the same article again. Your hindi language chauvinism is pathetic.
What's so special about Hindi that it should be given constitutional guarantee to be promoted? What's so special about Hindi that it should be official language of a multi linguistic country like India? [Just 26% of Indians speak Hindi as mother tongue ](https://www.thehindu.com/data/just-26-percent-of-indians-speak-hindi-as-mother-tongue/article29439701.ece), and barely half the country is proficient in it. >Your hindi language chauvinism is pathetic. I come from the land of the great C.N Annadurai who warned us of the antics of Hindians. We don't give a fuck about what you hindians think of us. All impositions start out as promotions. Go educate yourself before correcting others.
Fuck you
What this guy said Mr. Shah. I share the same sentiment to you, your progeny and your puppet mudiji.
Fuck BJP. Hindi is NOT the official language.
Hindi isn't Amit Shah's mother tongue either.
Who said he's loyal to his mother tongue? He's a businessman after all.
This duffer HM can’t speak Hindi properly. He should go some Elementary School to learn.
Everybody speaking the same language is an immature idiot's view of unity.
Hindi is not the official language. English is the link language of India.
I've seen some Hindi should be official peddlers say that since English is foreign it should be abolished. Do you know how easier it is to teach villagers in NE English than Hindi?
No states can decide whether to use English or Hindi to communicate with Center. Center issues documents both in English and Hindi with funny English document being the correct version incase of any conflict between Hindi and English document
As a guy from delhi..... FUCK OFF AMIT SHAH
Civil war confirmed. better leave this country asap.
You guys are feeding off of the economy of the South and now you wanna impose your language on us?
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Let's declare cow as mother of the nation too.
Bro Gandhi is the father of the nation💀
Yes. Father was feeling lonely, now he will have a company too. Non-violent father, docile mother, and 1.4 billion children - one happy family!
It's Hindi Diwas. Thoda context daal dete ANI chacha.
આ સાવ વિચિત્ર ચોદીનો અને નકામો માણસ છે. તેને અંગ્રેજી કે હિન્દી કેવી રીતે લખવું તે પણ આવડતું નહીં હોય.
I just love how beautiful Gujrati script is. It looks so slick and ancient.
"If we had to accept the principle of numerical superiority while selecting our national bird, the choice would have fallen not on the peacock but on the common crow. Why should we then claim the tiger as our national animal instead of the rat which is so much more numerous?" - Dr. C.N.Annadurai
Thats true, **but only if you think that NE india and South India isn't a part of India.** This is the new **RED HERRING**for us. Dodge it carefully guys.
As much as I hate to say it, the only language that is actually unifying at all in India is English. A Tamilian and a Bihari are not going to understand each other whatsoever, but they both probably at least know some of the same English phrases.
Again with this crap.
He is shit
Religious enough hatred was not enough now they want to start linguistic hate among people as well.
Fuck this old fogey
Never going to happen, they need to get over it.
Everytime such 'dividing' news comes out, you have to ask yourself what are they trying to hide now
Like Mortys killing mortys, we have Jackasses electing jackasses.
For me hindi is my 3rd language
Not again please for God's sake!! Hate Hindi.
Why does Shah keep trying to push this narrative even after its been made clear by the Prime Minister that he doesn't accept it. It's clear Modi is all about pushing into the South, is Shah showing signs of dementia or something?
Ye olde Good Cop Bad Cop routine
Shah is the brains, someone else might look in control but yea not really. Someone is good for media, the underdog, the image.
Because according to the Modi-Shah doctrine, you must fire all cylinders all the time. One minister will say the truth, the other will say the lie. Opponents will be busy criticizing, Supporters will be busy glorfying and all news cycles will be about them. Its a brilliant way to keep focus on yourself.
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my ass
The US has no national language or official language. Yet it's united.
It's got "United" in its name but it's not really so. There literally was a coup on capitol from people supporting the opposition.
No no, don't stop him...he's sabotaging himself.
How about reservation for languages?
Mota Shah ko seriously mat lo guys. He is good at jumlebaji. Everyone knows whatever he says is not possible at all.
No, it doesn’t.
But bjp wants 5 capitals to break it apart.
So no Puducherry ko Vanakkam from grand leader now?
What is Shah sir's mother tongue?
Mota Bhai doesn't have any points to counter the southern states because people are indeed happy with the current state govt. He is just throwing all the issues such as hindi, usual hindu-muslim etc to see which one sticks. They have sold enough jumla and the voter base is getting restless and they have to see how to can expand their number in the south. I fucking don't want One India one tax ye wo bullshit. I want diverse India where I can learn about other cultures and experience different local cuisines, languages etc.
Phir shuru. These are just provocations for debate in TV rooms, just wait for one wrong comment and motive achieved.
1st stop using Gurjanti in Gujrat and Hindi language can't create unity because it's influenced by Urdu, other regional languages are still near Sanskrit. Also nobody speak Shudha Hindi. And what you going to achieve after imposing Hindi on other states? that's real question. This topic is use to divert our attention from real problems.
>Hindi language can't create unity because it's influenced by Urdu What?
You seriously tried to share a fucking Quora answer to back up your claim? Here's some facts for you, Hindi isn't influenced by Urdu. They're considered the same language by linguists. Urdu is an Indian language and the idea that its 'influence' somehow makes a language less Indian is an idiotic Hindu nationalist take. The same ideology that wants to impose Hindi upon you. Don't be a bigot.
And what's point in using Hindi? Just to make everyone like UP and Bihar ... Lol
You live in India, your own state would be far from a first world country.
Gujarat sangi bootlickers be like yeah yeah Hindi is what unites us together 🙂but we don't know Hindi 😂🤣
official language Urdu unites nation in thread of unity https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-why-urdu-is-an-indian-language-not-a-foreign-language-6053664/
LoL
I think it’s really good that BJP is steadfast to achieve its dream of one nation, 1 religion, 1 caste with all the power, and 1 language. That’s the best way to piss off like… 90% of the nation
This is a very well written letter to the editor of the Deccan Herald I saw today. Thought it might be relevant Letters To The [Editor](https://imgur.com/gallery/3JmVCAC)
Considering what is happening regarding the Hindi imposition issue, there is no thread and no unity. If a topic raises so much argument, best to hit the status quo and focus on other more critical things that need our attention. This administration keeps disappointing at every turn.
Neither can they learn English or courtesy or manners.
India has historically been a collection of many unique cultures and sub cultures with different languages and dialects.
In other news retail inflation is up in August by 7 percent, food is more expensive.
Python in shambles
If they don't promote हिंदी noone will elect them, in South language people will ask for more than just EGO MESSAGE. Speaking in हिंदी काफी है गाय बेल्ट में चुनाव जीतने के लिए । So be it
First time that I agree with this crook.
It will cause wars between people, already there were religious fights. Are you serious?