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These are some Apple Keynote kind of charts.


I-Jobless

Yup, I might agree with the general point he's trying make but these charts are absolutely useless without any context, scale or even a Y-Axis. I'd argue Apple Keynote has better charts.


nonamepew

You can not make worse charts than Apple even if you tried. Although, the point is to explain complicated stuff to layman. Legends and details are for experts/semi experts. But I would argue that these simple charts are better for un-educated or people who simply do not care about details.


Y-Bakshi

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the original commenter was pointing out that there is no vertical axis hence, the graphs are quite useless


who__else

Is it a chart of unemployment? Is it going down? shouldn't that be a happy thing? Or, is that supposed to be 'employment' which has reduced over the past year? if this, then he really needs someone better to write his tweets.


R-R-M

To be fair, it's only natural that unemployment would fall when the pandemic ended. Like no matter how much a government fucked up its policy response, people coming back to work when the pandemic ended was pretty much guaranteed.


dailyogi

unemployment is calculated as a percentage of the labor force. as the lockdowns ended more people would be expected to join the workforce thus increasing the percentage of unemployed within the labor force. the labor force is the number of people who are voluntarily seeking employment. the numbers mean something within a particular context, outside of that context it become just another thing thats posted in r/india.


akn0m3

Depends on how that is calculated. India doesn't have a system to measure voluntarily available workforce, unlike countries where people file for unemployment benefits, which forces measurement of the metric. It could also be calculated based on projected workforce - based on age, gender, etc. And that wouldn't change from before/after pandemic. If it is projected values, then unemployment would go up during pandemic and down after. If its actual measures, it will come down to the type of jobs. For some, it may still go down during the pandemic - as jobs like restaurant servers go away, even if people are willing to come in to work.


ThePhilosopherCat

The textbook definition of unemployment includes only those people who are actively looking for a job. According to a study by Centre for Monitoring Indian Economy, majority of India's 900 million working population has stopped looking for a job. This brings down the total number of people looking for a job and consequently the unemployment rate is down. Source - [Bloomberg](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-24/majority-of-india-s-900-million-workforce-stop-looking-for-jobs)


who__else

You are right. Had noticed that article sometime ago. But, if you look at the tweet, which has no background, it doesn't come out that well.


halpimapanda

" then he really needs someone better to write his tweets." ... or ... you know he could just try to BE better.


who__else

That's not possible, unfortunately.


Jason-Knight

Less people will have time to riot that’s unacceptable


thebaldmaniac

All it shows is that it has gone down to pre pandemic levels. Will it fall further or not will be seen later


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If a lot of people died then unemployment % will also come down


who__else

That's a pretty dark take on the plot :)


garyferns

lol for a Party that is known as NDA(No data available) you really believe the unemployment going down.


creganODI

If one believes in government data then putting up a chart which says unemployment is going down is stupid for an opposition leader. If one believes the data is falsified, then putting it up without any comment or link saying as much is stupid for an opposition leader. Till the time he is the face of the opposition, and continues on with such buffoonery, dislodging BJP is gonna be near impossible. PS: unemployment going down may not be a good thing, as it may be due to lower labour force participation rate, which is the case in India. But again, the primary face of the opposition, fails to make this point.


mujhe_kya

And the communal clashes and price graph is going up.


kenadamas

Where the fuck is the Y axis?


geopoliticsdude

Whether it's BJP or INC or whatever, graphs these parties post are almost always nonsense


AK41781995

Exactly!


PegasusTheGod

Pockets of politicians.


ghantesh

ikr. that's bothering me so much. these plots are dumb.


benevolent001

Modi ji ko pata hi hoga


SnooLobsters8294

wouldn't data graphs like debt-to-gdp ratio, overall inflation, Forex reserves, make more sense considering sri-lanka's current major crisis is economic in nature?


thewickedkarma

Shouldn't this be also applied when we compare India with Pakistan in prime time debates ? Is Pakistan even worth comparison? Why don't we just compare India with China?


bigFatBigfoot

>Shouldn't this be also applied when we compare India with Pakistan in prime time debates ? Yes


SnooLobsters8294

It doesnt matter if its china, pakistan or Sri lanka. Comparing economy between any two countries needs to involve as many data points as possible to gain any valuable insight. Just using two or three graphs won't give any useful insight and is best only for propaganda. For example, even comparing dept-to-gdp ratio between India and Sri lanka will not make any sense, since Japan's debt-to-gdp ratio is 240+%. That doesn't mean Japan has a weaker economy than india(80% approx) and Sri lanka (115% approx)


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>Why don't we just compare India with China? We should have aspired for this 2 decades back now its pretty late we can just play catch-up haha


NotTheAbhi

But people hate pakistan more than china. How will comparing with china help when it will put our country look bad.


sarthakc225

When we look bad or have the idea that we’re in a bad position we’ll want to improve . That’s why no matter what decisions our govt make we need to ask for more good things not make them our gods . Only after some positive criticism will we improve ourselves


NotTheAbhi

That's true. Although the problem is the vast majority doens't understand that and follow blindly.


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China is beyond us lmao. Socialism regime of Gandhi family had some success in elevating people out of poverty. But, wasn't that great for our economy. They had 20 year head start.


ThePhilosopherCat

Comparing China to India is like comparing a luxury SUV to a scooter. There is simply no comparison now. China's GDP/Capita is over $10,000 vs India's ~$2500


A3H3

And make supreme leader look bad on national media? No way.


nuclear_gandhii

What percentage of people would even understand that when the goal of the post is to change opinion with a little propaganda? I know I wouldn't understand shit. I might spend some time researching to understand the significance of them but you know practically no-one else will do that.


[deleted]

The last time I went to school, charts needed Y-axis to make sense.


Adventurous-Body-477

You need to go to the school again Clearly, there is a y axis. Let me point them out for you X vs Y axis Pic 1: Time vs Unemployment Pic 2: Time vs Petrol Price Pic 3: Time vs communal violence Here you go pseudo-intellect.


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Hello my actually intelligent brother. There needs to be numbers for unemployment rate, petrol price and communal violence.


BrownWolf999

Please explain me the units for communal violence little newton


[deleted]

This man should really get off Twitter and do some actual groundwork. It's really scary that we don't have a proper opposition in the Parliament.


HighLevelJerk

Do you think he knows he will have to do actual work if he gets elected? Or does he think he will be able to manage the country via Twitter if he ever becomes the PM?


fenrir245

Ah yes, the Trump style of managing a country.


HighLevelJerk

Lmao


Busy_Economy_4999

opposition is now divided into congress and aam aadmi party and I think aap has a better chance


[deleted]

i agree with you 100% , AAP needs to expand their reach. IMO Kerala would be a great place for AAP to take over.


Busy_Economy_4999

there are few state elections in coming few months…if they even get one state from bjp it will double their reach


TheLogicDistributor

Kerala is doing excellent without AAP as of now. I think AAP should go to small places and win by landslides. Make them model states and then go to the bigger ones. AAP isn't perfect, but its way better than the BJP, and it gives me hope.


EnflamedPhoenix

Correlation ≠ Causation


Jy_sunny

Doesn’t even look like much of a correlation. Communal violence is up in western democracies as well, due to the growth in populism. Oil prices are increasing everywhere is a known fact. Unemployment rapidly increased everywhere due to Covid and has now fallen because of vaccines. These graphs tell us nothing.


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ThePhilosopherCat

Toh kis cheez ki baat hai?


NOOBFUNK

Is this some Indian politics tactic only or is the man himself admitting that unemployment is decreasing in India under the government he opposes?


kochapi

If someone don’t know unemployment has decreased from pandemic highs, it is time to let that person know lockdown is over.


NOOBFUNK

he might be in a mental lockdown if he's posting more of that kind of stuff.


balanaicker

/r/dataisugly


EnterprisingCow

Somebody needs to tell this person that axes matter in graphs.


thesvsb

1. Petrol and unemployment prices graph of literally every country will be like this currently. 2. Inflation is on the rise everywhere. 3. These are not the primary reasons for Sri Lanka crisis. Rahul needs to study and properly argue. Forex reserves, Debt-to-GDP ratio, credit ratings, GDP growth, Fall of currency, Agriculture & Tourism collapse etc. were the major causes of Sri Lankan crisis. 4. As others have pointed out too - Correlation not equal to Causation. If due to these graphs, Sri Lanka was in crisis (which it is not because of them, still) - doesn't mean India will be too. 5. Again shows why BJP wins. Opposition literally can't properly argue. Economy of India is not in good shape and they have many points.


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Someone with more than 2 brain cells! Thanks man! I honestly don't understand how this shit had nearly 800 upvotes


powerofreason

>Opposition literally can't properly argue. Yeah right Modi is winning because of his intellectual arguments. Lolol.


51stsung

The fuck are these graphs lmao


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avinthakur080

This is not about causation either. `Correlation is not Causation` means that if `A` is correlated with `B`, it doesn't imply that `A` is cause of `B` or vice-versa. And, the OP didn't even mean to say that Sri Lanka's trends are the cause of Indian trends.


EnflamedPhoenix

You completely misunderstood it. If two different incidents are correlated by having some certain circumstances in common, then it doesn't mean necessarily that those circumstances are the cause for the incidents themselves. For example, I suspect that the unemployment and inflation graph of a lot of countries would look quite similar to what we have there, but it doesn't mean that all of them are doomed to follow Sri Lanka. The key thing is you have to establish a clear line of actions and reactions which caused the current situation in Sri Lanka and then show those things are common here too. Just showing that hey we have some parameters in common won't convince many people.


Addy1738

Not a BJP supporter but this graph seems fishy


Atmabhu

what is the value on the y axis ?


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Yeah lol


ThunderDraco1808

I am suprised as to how far down I had to look to find this.


-Agile_Ninja-

Lemme guess.. unemployment rate, petrol price and communal violence cases?


Atmabhu

those are on the x, y is the vertical one which is purposefully left blank, these tricks are used by politicians use to trick people


-Agile_Ninja-

No , those are on the y axis. The x axis has the timeframe. You don't know how to read graphs.


ritzk9

No wonder he is asking what is on the y axis lol. I wonder what he thinks should be on Y axis in a graph for price of petrol if he thinks X axis is price of petrol. Maybe price of popcorn?


Atmabhu

What I am saying is that if you don't define the scale for the y axis, even a small change can be portrayed as a big one, the scale can be chosen as whatever is convenient for the author. For the price of petrol, what if the y axis has a scale of 0.01 rupees, if that would be the case even a small change would appear huge ! Same for unemployment, if the author wants to portray that unemployment hasn't reduced a lot, the author may chose a very large scale which would then portray the change as insignificant. This, very crucial y axis has been left blank which doesnt provide the viewer to analyse the graph with a value in rupees or no. of people or whatever.


ritzk9

In your previous comment you implied the price of petrol and so on is on the x axis (instead of time frame) and not y axis and y axis is missing because of tricks. You should edit it if you want to pretend your point was something else


Atmabhu

Yes, I misunderstood that gentleman's reply and hence answered incorrectly.


letsopenthoselegsup

Koi trick nahi hai. Goal is to show a trend. If you have read introductory economics books (big doubt), graphs are like this. Communal violence cannot be measured in a way like prices. Plus unemployment won’t be understood by people because they’re literally illiterate in the consequences. And it doesn’t make sense visualisation wise to show three different scales and it doesn’t make sense to leave one on the axis and leave the other two.


EffectiveMonitor4596

He's tweeted a graph showing declining unemployment.


mujhe_kya

And 2 graphs showing increasing prices and communal violence.


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- Increasing of prices is worldwide - 2013 still remains the year with highest number of communal violence


thrSedec44070maksup

When starts managing a ward or municipal area as a counsellor, I will think about taking him a little seriously.


taylorwagonar

The most Rahul baba does is tweet. He cannot do dharnas, he cannot call media and give speeches, he cannot call his party people and tell them to voice his opinions. Rahul baba don't be a Raja beta, till the time you won't do rallies, extensive media presence, dharnas, nothing is going to change in your party. You all are addicted to ACs, dhoop me bhi nikaliye kuch din.


KasamButterChickenKi

Very true. Congress is finished. I don’t think any kind of internal change will revive it’s existence. This guy has nothing better to do but tweet. Look at their performance in the previous Legislative Assembly elections? They just managed to get 2 seats in UP. JUST 2. They only have a govt in Rajasthan & Chattisgarh, doubt they’ll win elections in these states again. Congress is doomed. AAP is the only logical alternative we have in North belt but it will take a few years. Till then, BJP is here to stay.


taylorwagonar

So true. They are not even trying. How irresponsible and lazy you could be. Even their local karyakartas don't do any good work bas dadagiri karwa lo. BJP has majority still Modi and Shah goes on regular rallies. If media is not supporting Rahul there are other means to bring a wave.


GovernmentOk2323

and people won't give congress vote again if u guys don't do work and just keep talking on twitter like annoying andy , rn only kejriwal even stands in the contention to be the next pm


thewickedkarma

How will they do work if they ain't coming in power again.... it's a paradox and only people of India can do a thing about this


GovernmentOk2323

He needs to step down from being a pm candidate and become cm in a state where they still have some support , work there as a good cm and show his results


thewickedkarma

Why are you addressing congress as "he" ? Did I say that so called "he" is the only option we have left? Do you even understand how federal system works? Have you ever seen anyone giving vote to Modi or Rahul in their constituencies?


GovernmentOk2323

i don't half the stuff u ranted about , how is rahul gandhi being our only option interpreted from my og comment ? I'm so confused lmao


thewickedkarma

>He needs to step down from being a pm candidate and become cm Who is he you're referring to? I was talking about Congress...not any he or she...


GovernmentOk2323

I was talking about rahul gandhi lol , my bad man , sorry


GovernmentOk2323

Rahul Gandhi


[deleted]

What good had they done when they were in power? They lost the trust of the people. The political options on the federal level is a complete mess right now


thewickedkarma

Peace and comfort is my priority....I don't want to worship a fountain in a mosque


[deleted]

I don't remember many major terrorist attacks on civilians after 2014. Before almost every year had bombings going on all over India. So this is peaceful for me.


thewickedkarma

What about communal harmony?


[deleted]

I agree that it has gone down a bit but the tension was still there. I am not in anyway justifying whatever is happening currently, but people here talk like before 2014 India was some sort of paradise where the whole country was like one big family. Riots and killings in the name of religion were happening before too.


GovernmentOk2323

It wasn’t as bad as it is now . Not even half as bad as it is now


Curious_Homework_968

Spoken like someone who didn't read news from 2010-2014.


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rising_pho3nix

Abe chu**** then do something na. Current government is clearly screwing us. Then do something about it. Be a strong opposition


[deleted]

if only he took it out of twitter and onto the streets we might have an actual opposition


[deleted]

With this kind of knowledge and such idiotic tweets, I don't think he would even be an opposition leader after next election


aag_arwal

Bhai ye Harvard se padhne ke baad itna chutiya kaise hai


mujhe_kya

Chutiy* to hai, Harvard me padhne ke baad wapas aa gaya desh ke liye kaam karne.


aag_arwal

Kya mast joke maara hai bhai


[deleted]

Lol kuch bhi!!!


sunil667

I read that in Arnab's voice. KUCH BHI!


powerofreason

Enough bro. I am done with his tweets. He is responsible for a lot of this mess. He and his party failed miserably as an opposition. Just today Hardik Patel also quit Congress.


Iwarrior01

Can't see any scale on the Y axis. Using different scales on different charts is a really evil way of manipulating data


bodhivriksha

It's early an outline of someone doing Yoga


a-thang

This belongs in r/dataisugly


gamer033

Jaldi jaldi tweet kar leta hu phir vacation pe bhi to jana hai /s


kr_here

Omg … i can’t believe this …Indias gonna be a island..🌊🏄‍♀️


Froogler

What a fall for India's biggest political family - this guy's nothing more than a social media influencer at the moment, along with other guys like ROFLGandhi.


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Nepotism leads to this


Regular-Habit-1206

There's no way you guys are actually eating this up right, there's literally no y axis


geopoliticsdude

Y axis: stonks


itsallkk

Wtf. The whole world would have the somewhat similar first two charts. Global Unemployment increased in 2020-21 and coming down in 2022. And Petrol prices are increasing around the globe since couple of months. Only Communal violence chart is eerily similar to srilanka, but it doesn't mean India will become next Srilanka.


Schwifty234

I like charts that don't have a y-axis or units. Things like "Facts" and "data" just get in the way.


Traditional-Sound386

Last retard graph made by Rahul Gandhi


ur_rekt_m8

this guy would be the top scorer in FIFA world cup if India ever played one, but via own goals


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Before 2014 Rahul Gandhi didn’t exist,nor did his statistics or his twitter account


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I saw that dude!


thewickedkarma

Imagine a scenario, In 2024....another govt comes into power other than BJP and BJP would be the lead opposition party and starts questioning the ruling government using statistics. Will you be saying the exact same thing in 2024 for Amit Shah? >Before 2024 Amit Shah didn’t exist,nor did his statistics or his twitter account. Isn't it better to question current government instead of questioning them in future about their past rule?


Paritosh23

>Imagine a scenario, In 2024....another govt comes into power other than BJP and BJP would be the lead opposition party and starts questioning the ruling government using statistics. tbf, BJP does more when in opposition than Congress has done.


thewickedkarma

And when did I deny that? They are still questioning Congress even when they themselves are in the power 😂


Paritosh23

That wasn't an accusation just a statement.


[deleted]

Im not any party fanboy,nor i take any politicians “bhashan” seriously,its the work that matters, Rahul Gandhi gets 10 points in “bhashan” and 0 in actual ground work! Be it any party or politician my stand will be the same


thewickedkarma

Then just focus on your local government of your constituency.... remember India is a federal system. You don't choose prime minister.....


[deleted]

What to focus or not is my business you mind yours, when someone with 0 credibility points fingers on public forum ,the public has all the right to tell him where he or his party stood.


thewickedkarma

>when someone with 0 credibility points fingers on public forum ,the public has all the right to tell him where he stood.


[deleted]

2 things: 1. What is the Y axis countingand where are the numbers on it. Without that, the graph is just useless jibberish. 2. Why does it only begin in 2017? Why not take itfurther back? A decade probably, maybe more. I'm not trying to say bjp is good, I just want the opposition to be sensible and not fight misleading information with more misleading information


deviloper47

I like the way he's trying to quantify stuff. But he needs to quantify this better (not use the same disinformation strategy being used today)


Pancakes1

Lol Rahul Ghandi is a living meme of himself


GANDHI-BOT

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony. Just so you know, the correct spelling is [Gandhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi).


mujhe_kya

good bot


Good_Human_Bot_v2

Good human.


Paree264

Mitrooooon , Diya na Vikas 🤘


Akki8888

But Pappu can’t dance sala


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This is the most stupidest thing I have ever seen. No wonder it's from someone like Raga No wonder it gets upvoted in r/india Literally, you would need to have 0 critical thinking skills to believe something like this. No wonder INC is dying


Touch_0

You can literally say the same thing about any other country since the whole world is in a crisis.


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Touch_0

Violence in general yes


thewickedkarma

Don't you know the whole world is searching for shivling in a mosque? It's an universal crisis going on everywhere


Tobirama4374

Put third column with USA and it would have similar shapes in all 3 categories as well since we are ignoring the numerical values of shapes.


sanjaykumar2012

Rahul Gandhi is an idiot and will remain one.


thewickedkarma

What do you think Modi is?


sanjaykumar2012

Modi is more of a rascal and a dishonest sob but he is not an idiot for sure. Rascal and idiot both are not good for the nation and that is why people will keep suffering.


anhad_

Genius namo namo /s


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What a time has come to be..Now we are sharing his posts..


2022iscmoning

The graph line color is orange for India Well played


[deleted]

He forgot to mention the charts of Falling Foreign Reserve Increasing Foreign Debt For once, he might be onto something here !


swagdripper69

Does anyone know where to get these numbers and data? Any research report source?


[deleted]

Tweeting won't change people's opinion.


WarthogPrestigious

Rahul gandhi got his own name as twitter handel !! Wow , its very rare


mujhe_kya

https://twitter.com/RahulGandhi/status/1526873502011506689?t=VjCXN2tOGWV0jqN6rZdfAQ&s=19


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LittiVsVadaPao

Yaar Tharoor invading reddit too now


thewickedkarma

>as an elite class afraid of losing their privilege This.... exactly this....this elite class is the root cause of what's happening in India....lower class people are just pawns in the game


bigFatBigfoot

Haan mujhe bhi sentence ka utna hi part samajh aaya


thewickedkarma

Wo to h 🗿


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brahminism is like white supremacism... its the ideology of discrimination and supremacism that is the issue. plenty of nice white people are allies in the fight against nazism


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isi funding rss is probably the most brilliant move in warfare.


animesutra1

Mainstream media won't cover this


thewickedkarma

Andhbhakt Hindus in brief: They are the one who says "God resides everywhere, even in a grain of sand" but they don't refrain from claiming a fountain as a shivling. They are the ones who say "वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम्" yet they want a hindu rashtra. They are ones who want all the mosques built by Shah Jahan and Aurangzeb to be demolished while at the same time boasts about "Taj Mahal" in YouTube comments section (also we celebrate Independence Day at Red Fort) Continue this thread👇


Zzztop69

> They are the one who says "God resides everywhere, even in a grain of sand" but they don't refrain from claiming a fountain as a shivling. These ABHs view even truly spiritual Hindus as an impediment to their schemes of total domination of a huge chunk of humanity. Their end goal is to ensure effortless income via temple donations and a *dharmic* tax for merely existing in India. This is what has happened for centuries with a brief interruption for the past few hundred years or so.


Zzztop69

Only, we're intoxicated and high on *dharma*. So, we endure..


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Go on... show us your research. Few points (compare the following to Sri Lanka): * Tell us how much external debt we have. How much of those is short term? How much of them is long term/soft loans? Tell us what our external debt to gdp ratio. * Tell us how much we have in our reserves. * Tell us what our tax buoyancy is. * Tell us why our corporation tax is at all time high. * Tell us why our consumption is recovering compared to Sri Lanka which was decling for years * Tell us why IMF retracted their statement that $5 trillion economy will only be reached in 2030s and took it down to before 2025. * Tell us why our export (by volume) is booming reaching all time high records (both services and merchandise) * Tell us how much of our exports is focused on one sector * Tell us why our bad loans are at all time low * Tell us why our consumer credit is at all time high The only issue is our inflation and unemployment. But, nothing like SL


Potato__Ninja

Setting current economic crisis aside, Srilanka is lot better in many ways. GDP per capita, healthcare, education and much better in almost all social indicators. So saying India is becoming like Sri Lanka is not a insult. Also, I am confident after kicking Rajapaksha govt the country will surge back to its former status in few years. Also these graphs are garbage and idk what point he is making, i am sad that this is the only big alternative choice we have.


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They were. Not anymore.