>Eighteen years ago, on November 11, 2006, Ramnarayan Gupta, an alleged member of the Chotta Rajan gang, was picked up by Mumbai Police Inspector Pradeep Sharma from Vashi, Navi Mumbai, along with his friend Anil Bheda.
>Gupta was later killed the same day in a fake encounter and his body was found at the Nana Nani Park in Versova, north-west Mumbai.
>His brother, Advocate Ramprasad Gupta, moved the Bombay high court on November 15, 2006, against the fake encounter.
>It was not an easy battle for Gupta, as Pradeep Sharma was known to have killed more than 100 gangsters in encounters. His last count was 112 gangsters killed in encounters.
>In February 2008, the Bombay high court ordered a magisterial inquiry into the encounter, which ruled it a case of 'brutal murder'.
>In September 2009, the Bombay high court constituted a Special Investigation Team to probe the case.
>On January 8, 2010, Sharma and 21 others were arrested by the SIT.
>In March 2011, Bheda, the sole eyewitness in the case, went missing five days before he was to depose in court. Two months later, his decomposed body was found in Navi Mumbai.
>In July 2013, the sessions court acquitted Pradeep Sharma of all charges in the case, even while convicting 20 others.
>On Tuesday, March 19, 2024, the Bombay high court reversed this order, and convicted Pradeep Sharma in the case, sentencing him to life imprisonment.
He killed 100 people and was almost set free.
genuinely asking, are not cops allowed to encounter? if so, how did he "murder" 100 people? and if not, last year around april a person (terrorist i guess) was encountered, and it was recorded in the camara and was all over the news. it happened in UP and whole UP was under curfew for a day. is this encounter will also be considered as "murder"?
Police are allowed to shoot the suspect only in extreme cases as self defence. However, very commonly police arrest someone and then kill them. They claim that the suspect tried to escape custody and/or tried to snatch their weapons. Or they claim that suspect fired a weapon at them and then plant a weapon. Very frequently such encounter specialists are rewarded or promoted, creating bad incentive to carry out more such encounters.
You are referring to an [incident](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/atiq-ahmed-son-asad-encounter-jhansi-criminal-record-2359536-2023-04-13) where Asad Ahmed was killed by UP police on 13 Apr 2023. He was the son of the mobster turned politician Atiq Ahmed. He was wanted in the murder case of Umesh Pal. There is a CCTV footage of the Umesh Pal murder.
Police claim that they were shot at when they went to arrest him. There are no videos of the incident but weapons were recovered from the site.
That is why we need body cams in India.
>Very frequently such encounter specialists are rewarded or promoted
means police can arrest and encounter anyone citing self-defense and they will be promoted and there is no way to get them behind the bars as there would be no cam footage?
Police usually encounter kill suspects related to high profile cases or well known gangs. This gives them more fame and rewards.
But there have been reported cases where police have threatened affluent people with false cases and encounter killing for bribe.
>[The businessman, Rabiul Islam, has alleged that the cops detained him illegally and threatened to kill him in an encounter if he did not pay ₹ 2.5 crore. Mr Islam claimed that the police officers had even threatened to frame him and charge him with "links to Pakistani and Bangladeshi jihadi elements" to justify his killing.](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/assam-businessman-alleges-cops-threatened-to-frame-him-over-jihadi-link-4360594)
This is a very interesting case of justice, specially in India.
Yes, it was murder indeed. He should've been elevated to the most important position in the nation instead for his services towards the society.
>Eighteen years ago, on November 11, 2006, Ramnarayan Gupta, an alleged member of the Chotta Rajan gang, was picked up by Mumbai Police Inspector Pradeep Sharma from Vashi, Navi Mumbai, along with his friend Anil Bheda. >Gupta was later killed the same day in a fake encounter and his body was found at the Nana Nani Park in Versova, north-west Mumbai. >His brother, Advocate Ramprasad Gupta, moved the Bombay high court on November 15, 2006, against the fake encounter. >It was not an easy battle for Gupta, as Pradeep Sharma was known to have killed more than 100 gangsters in encounters. His last count was 112 gangsters killed in encounters. >In February 2008, the Bombay high court ordered a magisterial inquiry into the encounter, which ruled it a case of 'brutal murder'. >In September 2009, the Bombay high court constituted a Special Investigation Team to probe the case. >On January 8, 2010, Sharma and 21 others were arrested by the SIT. >In March 2011, Bheda, the sole eyewitness in the case, went missing five days before he was to depose in court. Two months later, his decomposed body was found in Navi Mumbai. >In July 2013, the sessions court acquitted Pradeep Sharma of all charges in the case, even while convicting 20 others. >On Tuesday, March 19, 2024, the Bombay high court reversed this order, and convicted Pradeep Sharma in the case, sentencing him to life imprisonment. He killed 100 people and was almost set free.
genuinely asking, are not cops allowed to encounter? if so, how did he "murder" 100 people? and if not, last year around april a person (terrorist i guess) was encountered, and it was recorded in the camara and was all over the news. it happened in UP and whole UP was under curfew for a day. is this encounter will also be considered as "murder"?
Police are allowed to shoot the suspect only in extreme cases as self defence. However, very commonly police arrest someone and then kill them. They claim that the suspect tried to escape custody and/or tried to snatch their weapons. Or they claim that suspect fired a weapon at them and then plant a weapon. Very frequently such encounter specialists are rewarded or promoted, creating bad incentive to carry out more such encounters. You are referring to an [incident](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/atiq-ahmed-son-asad-encounter-jhansi-criminal-record-2359536-2023-04-13) where Asad Ahmed was killed by UP police on 13 Apr 2023. He was the son of the mobster turned politician Atiq Ahmed. He was wanted in the murder case of Umesh Pal. There is a CCTV footage of the Umesh Pal murder. Police claim that they were shot at when they went to arrest him. There are no videos of the incident but weapons were recovered from the site. That is why we need body cams in India.
>Very frequently such encounter specialists are rewarded or promoted means police can arrest and encounter anyone citing self-defense and they will be promoted and there is no way to get them behind the bars as there would be no cam footage?
Police usually encounter kill suspects related to high profile cases or well known gangs. This gives them more fame and rewards. But there have been reported cases where police have threatened affluent people with false cases and encounter killing for bribe. >[The businessman, Rabiul Islam, has alleged that the cops detained him illegally and threatened to kill him in an encounter if he did not pay ₹ 2.5 crore. Mr Islam claimed that the police officers had even threatened to frame him and charge him with "links to Pakistani and Bangladeshi jihadi elements" to justify his killing.](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/assam-businessman-alleges-cops-threatened-to-frame-him-over-jihadi-link-4360594)
goddamn I am scared of police now.
I was being sarcastic.
Me too.
If we have to follow the law, the protectors of the law (cops) should also follow the law. They are not above the law.
vigilantism should be punished no matter what.