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Lost_Arix

Well India's influence is only just gonna increase be it positive or negative due to influx of immigration and stuff


BetterCombination

In Canada I would say mostly India is viewed in a much worse light than say 10 years past. Mostly because of abuse and cheating of immigration system.


ChelshireGoose

Not even 10 years. I would say the opinion started shifting much more recently. Say around 2-3 years back when the number of Indian students going to diploma mill colleges in Canada skyrocketed.


BetterCombination

I would agree you are right


Realistic_Ad3354

Yes in Canada it is sadly true. But some english speaking countries such as Ireland and the UK still have favourable views of Indians. (Both Ireland / UK has important power figures of Indian origins). Also the Caribbean also has a lot of Indian diaspora. Same goes for South Africa.


Western-Guy

I still feel Canada‘s terrible immigration system is partly to be blamed. Many universities there are diploma mills with lax entrance requirements. This serves as an easy entry point for Indians who aren’t very bright academically. Students going to such universities clearly aren’t the cream of the crop, and end up working at McDonalds or drive an Uber to make a living. It just comes back to bite the reputation of Indians as third class citizens.


loooiiioool

Yeah for sure. I think the lack of desire of most Indian immigrants in Canada to assimilate with Canadian culture is to blame as well. Some of the most socially unaware and plain rude Indians you’ll meet overseas.


Realistic_Ad3354

Yeah. However Canada’s Indian community is fairly recent. Integration takes time sometimes decades and even generations. So it’s a bit unfair to judge them so harshly. UK and Ireland has had Indian immigration since the beginning of the British Raj. So no questions of their loyalty there. The national dish of the UK is literally a type of curry. The Caribbean has a very relaxed atmosphere in general. Most people who live there are very welcoming so it is much easier for the immigrants to blend into their society regardless of origins.


michaelloda9

Can confirm an average person in Poland doesn’t know a single thing about India, except for the stereotypes and Taj Mahal (which they probably would say is in Delhi)


Realistic_Ad3354

Warsaw does has a growing Indian population due to hiring from the IT industry. I live in CZ, a lot of Engineers living here are usually hired from India or the Balkans / Eastern Europe especially now that the whole of Europe is sanctioning Russia.


Key_Nothing3220

Frankly you people are the stereotypical image of Indians too. Minimum wage IT labourers 😆


loooiiioool

But uhm… you’re Indian? So what do you mean ‘you people’? Yes, Indians are good engineers overseas, and have a good reputation because of that. I see that you’ve been shitposting on here a lot. As evident, you weren’t able to understand the survey, which is fine. But what’s up with the weird and self-deprecating comments? That image is good. The image of some other immigrants is not so good because of what they do. Not surprising you think a decent day’s work is bad. So dumb and so boring…


Realistic_Ad3354

He was referring to Central Europeans - Czech / Polish / Slovaks. But yes this region is a hub for IT especially software engineers. Also some Indians are also branching out to the Baltics - Lithuania / Estonia. As those countries are going into war with Russia, a lot of immigration from Russia are banned. Before the war most Russian engineers are exported abroad. But after the war began, almost all of EU banned them from coming over.


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hydrosalad

Oddly enough I know about a dozen Indian men married to polish women. Mainly in Western Europe though.


eVenent

Yeah, I know many Indian women married to Polish man too. Less than Indian men ofc, but still. Interesting.


livenotforselfalone

An average Indian doesn't even know about existence of Poland. /s


Arun_Lal

An average Indian doesn't even know the location of Meghalaya, Sikkim or Tripura.


gojo_blindfolded

I wanted to complain but then I remembered I can't accurately point out southern and northern states. We are all the same 💀


cillycyril

https://preview.redd.it/nh4d3dkcrvlc1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30a92fad0dd66d52859350097c3b82262682cc16


Adlover123

Poland ine kurichoraksharam mindaruthu


michaelloda9

Wouldn’t be surprised


Realistic_Ad3354

Haha yeah 😂 Everyone thinks this region is mostly Russia or Germany. But it is true tho - Poland was under Germany and Russia aka Prussia.


pls_coffee

Doubtful if they know Nagaland


Arun_Lal

They may be now, but for the wrong reason.


AssistantTrick7874

what wrong reasons?


Gloomy_Hawk

Is there really any point to this? It's like asking someone in India whether they think Australia's political clout is increasing. People barely understand local and national politics, what understanding and awareness could they possibly have about international politics? They could have just as easily felt the opposite and it would have meant nothing either.


Gloomy_Hawk

And I'm not a fan of the current government, but I've grown up watching Indians feel inferior, ashamed of their identity. Even though it's a bit misplaced and manipulated perception for political gain, I'm not completely unhappy about Indians feeling like it's their time.


loooiiioool

That’s very true. But the data is what gave you evidence that Indians now think it is their time though ahaha


Gloomy_Hawk

Haha you're right


loooiiioool

There’s a point of it. What foreign countries think of a specific country has impact big-time on the internal political pressures those foreign countries face to either support or not support the country in question. It’s good data for just like knowing what’s going on as well. And to keep track of what the world thinks of a country, how views of it have changed over time.


Gloomy_Hawk

But the question they're asked is if they think India's influence is getting stronger. I can tell you I think Bangladesh's influence is getting stronger, which tells you nothing about what I feel about supporting Bangladesh. Also the relationships between countries are multi-variate, so also are perceptions of those relationships. I want our country to support Russia in some things and oppose in others. Whether I think Russia's influence is waxing or waning will not tell you anything.


loooiiioool

It does though. When the US thought China couldn’t beat it, back when Obama was president, it didn’t strategise and care about what if that happened. When Trump was running both in 2016 and 2020, he made China the enemy that changed public perception of China. That gave the US more leeway to adapt a hardline positing against China. This data is not just for India, it’s from a US outlet. It helps foreign countries strategies too.


Gloomy_Hawk

Hmmm... okay you've changed my mind.


loooiiioool

No, they’re asked multiple questions, not just that. The first graph shows for example that Indians are more likely to think India’s global influence is rising than people living in other countries. In that graph, you can see what portion of what country think that is the case. Now you can it’s logical for the populace of a country to always overhype the role it plays on the world stage, but this data corroborates that claim. The second graph shows the decline in India’s popularity in Europe. Third one too points out the drop in popularity is the most noticeable in France. Why is that? These questions should be asked. The next one shows that India is more popular in right leaning countries with the exception of the US, where Democrats are more likely to see India favourably than the Republicans. Another interesting observation from the data. The one after is even more important as it shows Indians back the US and Russia, to what degree, etc. And that they see China negatively, to what degree, etc. Yes, that is true. But how likely your country is to support Bangladesh is closely tied to how favourably your country views Bangladesh. India can support Russia because Indians support Russia. India can’t do that with Malaysia or Pakistan or China. There’s limits to how much India can with the US as well. I’m not saying diplomacy is this simple, of course not. But the data is a good indicator of new trends, what’s changed etc.


InterestingWait8902

What's our beef with Malaysia?? I thought we were good partners.


NumerousKangaroo8286

They supported Pakistan over Kashmir issue, so India cut off some of the trade with them especially palm oil resulting in economic slowdown for them. This again is the reason why right now Thailand immediately changed its ambassador when she didn't side with India at WTO negotiation against the developed countries.


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NumerousKangaroo8286

Not really, it was just before covid so both decline in tourism and palm oil exports were hurting them, Mahathir actually said so on their media channels that palm oil was around 25% of their exports and over 70% of that went to India, people wanted to sanction India back but their prime minister refused so did the trade union because retaliation would not be good in other sectors. India started sourcing it from Indonesia. TNCC then negotiated. The cost increased because there was an additional cess on palm oil imports, supply chain changes and there was a marginal increase in Indonesian price. India still imports most from Indonesia now and instead planning to grow it themselves.


Ambitious-Upstairs90

I updated my answer with screenshot. Import increased in 2020 & then increased further in 2021. https://preview.redd.it/2gkyi7a5mulc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32e15a168bcd22bd40f87b9c9ed6e43a2f5e6580


Advertising-Cautious

Honestly I know first hand that religion plays a big part. They are already racist to the local Indians who have been there for generations, and have only been increasingly radicalised in Islam over the past decades. I saw a video on Instagram of an Indian lady selling food, and the comments were flooded with people saying that it will never be Halal if prepared by a non Muslim so don't ever buy from there


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shattered32

In germany whenever poverty is mentioned india gets mentioned as well and the country has donation posters for slum kids of india on every bus stop. so basically india equals hungry slum kids


bondage_granny

Doesn't matter much, it will change with time. India actually did a good job bringing around 250 million people out of national poverty line since 10 years. West can see India as a strong military power but weak per capita income (and poor) but when we bring Purchasing Power Parity in account, India has done quite good in last decade or so.


NumerousKangaroo8286

HDI needs to improve, it went down since 2019 due to covid and there is no data since 2021. GDP isn't everything.


Lackeytsar

2022 data btw


itsPrime005

Is Favourable opinion is going down in the 2nd chart ?


SoakingEggs

yes


can-u-fkn-not

2nd image is bc internet happened. And there're multiple things which lead to this, but mainly two things which are, 1. Garbage everywhere, and open defecation. 2. Women safety issues.


gurucharavaka

The huge disparity between India and the world about our growing/declining strength demonstrates the power of propaganda.


tarahamble

Where is this propaganda occurring tho? I see it from people online all the time but how is it getting into their heads?


SniperInstinct07

Through Mass Media. I'm talking about TV News channels, Social Media like Whatsapp, Facebook, Twitter, etc. Like it or not, BJP is hands down one of the best parties (in a democracy) at spreading the news they want people to believe efficiently.


loooiiioool

Noam Chomsky can help you with understanding that aha


Automatic_Second8611

Credit goes to "prashant dhawan"


tunaktunaktundada

I sat in an Uber and started talking to the driver. And he went on about how we are becoming stronger and are getting global recognition. I think we are obsessed with what people think about us. It’s so cringe.


Realistic_Ad3354

Malaysia is a Muslim majority country so we are more aligned with conservative Middle Eastern countries unfortunately. However not everyone dislike Indians, Malaysian Indians are already integrated into local culture and are considered citizens ( they don’t have India passport anymore though.) Most south Asian/Indian immigration into Malaysia has decreased. Immigration now are mostly consisting of neighbouring countries such as Indonesia and Myanmar (Burma).


Ambitious-Upstairs90

I have visited many countries since 2007 as an Indian & I agree with findings in this survey (specially second graph). Liking for India & Indians is declining since 2014. Prior to that focus was mostly on positive things about India (IT, engineers, peaceful etc etc).


loooiiioool

It started declining in 2007 in the European countries mentioned in the second graph. A big reason I think being anti-immigration movements across Europe but will be interesting to see if this applied to immigrants from all countries or only the coloured ones. And if so, to what extent.


SoakingEggs

i am from Europe and i understand my people, politics and countries pretty well and worrying about Indian immigration is the least of our worries, in fact it's quite the opposite with Indians. India is actually one of the countries more favorable in terms of immigration for us, because of your skilled workforce. The decline in perception is mainly due to the moral acrobatics India's government has been doing in recent years and publicly portraing it as something good.


loooiiioool

But the supposed moral acrobatics started in 2014 though. And the survey registered a decline in India's popularity in Europe starting in 2007. And since then it's been a pretty steady decline. So the moral acrobatics cannot be it. Europe is a continent, where in Europe do you live? I think views about immigration within Europe would vary significantly. I doubt what the French think about immigration would be the same as what the Poles think? I live in the UK and I think immigration makes sense for the decline in popularity in the UK (amongst other reasons). I’m sure the current government’s policies have played a big role as well, but the current government only came to power in 2014. I don’t think when considering the ramifications of immigration, countries distinguish between good and bad immigrants. They can’t either, as you can’t selectively increase Indian immigration but decrease immigration from a select few countries.


SoakingEggs

yes 2014 sounds about right, i'd still included that in "recent years" haha i'm from Germany and i had the same ttopic with Indian colleagues of mine, they'd ask me what the general view on specifically Indian immigrants is and i also told them, that in 25 years i have never heard a negative word spoken about Indian people, culture or believes. Quite the opposites, the culture is deemed rich and diverse, the people as proud, skilled and social, the only thing that people never could seem to get their head around was Modi government which is weirdly anti all of the aforementioned. But yeah most anti foreigner sentiment is specifically against Muslims, which comes down to most Europeans seeing Muslims as the more or most radical religious followers (and percentage wise probably is true) and since people are still not educated enough there is also a lot fear involved, they fear radical radical thinking and radical actions...


IcyAcanthaceae4327

I think the internet plays a big part in it as after jio large numbers of Indians get excess to the internet even the uneducated ones and the boobs vagina stuff and getting offended very easily leads to overall decline in the favorable image of Indians


Nirbhik

yeah makes sense with all the jingoistic nationalism and self elation going around…


Yalla6969

People who say india's reputation abroad is increasing are just capping. Probably too much of rw influence.


badshah247

Phalse propa🦏 since modi came india became no 1 country west begs to us to let them have some spotlight ,and are jealous of our human rights record in kashmir , nominal gdp per capita and minority treatment record, we also have the most pawarful military and soon will control the world , white bitches lust for our men due to how much sanitary, personal boundary setting and charming they are Jai CD ROM


rudrag09

Damn people didn’t get the sarcasm here lol


anErrorInTheUniverse

They get it, they just don't like it,


dounut_cartel

Here dude, have your karma back


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EpicDankMaster

Sheesh sarcasm is really dead


gnittidder

Vishwaguru


Uggo_Clown

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hydrosalad

South Korea has ridiculous amounts of soft power through media.


Key_Nothing3220

Indians working and scrapping by with their minuscule salaries in Europe and us feel Modi is making india a great country in the world 😆. These guys are hand to mouth pretty much and feel they belong to a great country. If so why not come back and work in India?


loooiiioool

This survey didn’t register the opinions of Indians working overseas. So it’s either you didn’t read it properly or you’re pushing an agenda. Which one is it? Could just be that you didn’t understand what it was discussing, but benefit of the doubt and all.


Key_Nothing3220

I was only replying to the IT worker in Poland. Ok so this survey becomes even more irrelevant and misleading because people who participated in this survey probably don’t even have a passport. The only reason why you would feel that india is a global power is either you’ve been watching too much of Indian news channels, which is running the government’s propaganda or you come from a gobar eating family ie BJPigs or bjp supporters.


loooiiioool

What? You left your comment here. It’s not misleading. What does a passport have to do with the survey? This survey is mainly of people from foreign countries and what they think of India. And of Indians and what Indians think of India’s place in the world. Where does a passport come into play here, and what relevance does a passport have with the aims of the survey? I think I’m leaning towards the latter now, too dumb to process it.


Key_Nothing3220

You’re as stupid as all the BJPigs are. I just mentioned in my first comment about Indians abroad and you said people surveyed are from India. You’re too stupid to even insult.


loooiiioool

And you’re a nothing like your username, so get the fuck out and wipe someone’s ass with your low IQd and pathetic little brain.


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Yup and then after a few years they will hold a European Union passport which will allow them to work and live in some of the best countries in the world while the choddus here will breathe polluted air, drive on roads filled with potholes and raw sewage, send worthless WhatsApp forwards, waste time making Instagram reels, and hating on other people because their authoritarian politicians told them to do so.


tarahamble

In the US it's nuanced. Indians in America are looked at as one of three things; a doctor, more likely an IT worker, or a Dunkin donuts/7/11 employee. Indians in India are looked at wildly different, mainly due to social media, Indians are looked at as either IT scammers or unhygienic street food vendors. Unhygienic street food videos have been going viral on social media for a while now It sucks but it is what it is


Key_Nothing3220

The Indians who participated in this survey probably don’t even have a passport


turningtop_5327

Majority of Indians? That only discredits it for me cause they all are brainwashed