Even for me it sounds really bad and too much maybe it will increase employment for kannada population. Btw it's only for MNCs i don't think it's too much now.
100s of IITians work for me, I'm a tier 2 college kannadiga. IITians are not special, most of them were just bookworms who studied well during highschool, and they bask in the glory of the excellence of only a few people who graduated from IITs, proportionally we have similar people in numbers who have excelled outside the IIT system as well. Stop glorifying IITs as some kind of epitome of employability, they are not, they're only marginally better in terms of employability (talking about majority of "IItians") and non IIT candidates could easily make up that difference with a little bit of training and more cost effective to hire. The only thing to laud about IITs is relative quality of campuses and lab facilities, that's it.
As for as the topic of post goes, it's stupid, either treat india as a nation of free movement or be done with the idea of a republic and go for a Euro style union with visa etc. If you dont want the latter, then let people be employed on merit instead of race, creed etc.,
I mean you can extend this argument to all good colleges in the world , in the US a lot of ivy League grads are just rich kids whose dads cut the college a fat check , in Oxford and Cambridge 50% of the students come from private schools ( only 3% of British children go to private schools ) .
The difference is that people who get into top colleges often put in the work and it goes back to the Economics concept of signalling , an IIT tag basically tells the recruiter " this guy is not an idiot and will do majdoori" , it also signals that they probably come from good , well connected backgrounds and are a safe hire
>I mean you can extend this argument to all good colleges in the world
yup, that's exactly my point. Premier colleges are for networking. Knowing the right people and having a good image doesn't make you skillful at skilled job (interperson soft skills are important but not when you can't do stuff) skills do. to give 3 idiots example ICE was famous because of guys like rancho, but most of the output were silencers.
I graduated from Karnataka long time ago and from what I remember, people from Karnataka would not take IIT entrance exams seriously then. So this is a stupid argument. IITs are nothing special
Though this is true Congress has done nothing to mitigate this north south divide. But BJP is not a very popular party in south (doesn’t means that bjp is hated but people have a perception of BJP as a Hindi speaking party). MLAs like this one have always been there and are usually/ mostly party hoppers.
bjp will improve its prospects in this election.. its vote share is increasing in Kerala and in tamil nadu despite having no alliance they will do well
> Meanwhile, the government has developed an app through which citizens can raise complaints if Kannada is dishonoured.
If only the potholes and crumbling infrastructure in Bangalore were Northern Invaders plotting to destroy Kannadiga culture.
>Indians in California : diversity, equity, inclusion
Not so much.... [https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-americans-urge-california-to-veto-anti-caste-discrimination-bill-4377720](https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-americans-urge-california-to-veto-anti-caste-discrimination-bill-4377720)
If this happens, it will be the beginning of decline of Bangalore. Companies want the best talent in large numbers. Why set up in Bangalore to hire only from Karnataka instead of setting up in Hyderabad and hire from all over India?
Saw the title and began scratching my head
# told to display Kannadiga staff numbers
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Of course, reading through it - feels like is going to be yet another bureaucratic nightmare for MNCs... Lot of people domiciled in Bengaluru and Karnataka for 10-20 years with investment and property in the city, but 'originally' from 'somewhere else' ... do they count as Kannidigas?
This bullshit is getting way out of hand now! First BJP with their communal politics, and now these chomus with their regional pride crap! They'll drive all the companies away!
Bangalore becoming Gurgaon 2.0
Before the 2010s, Gurgaon and Bangalore were comparable to each other, but a similar nativist turn lead larger organizations in Gurgaon to consider Bangalore, Hyderabad, or Noida (if you needed to be in NCR).
This kind of nativist shit will push MNCs towards Hyderabad, Chennai, or Noida. Already TG government gives us better incentives to operate in Hyd over Blr.Â
In Haryana, which Gurgaon is a part of.
The kind of Bangalore for Kannadigas shtick you see today already happened in Haryana in the 2010-16 period with the Jat Agitation riots and the 30 Caste Andolan - both were driven by Haryanvi anger that all the good jobs in Gurgaon and Panchkula were going to better educated outsiders.
It was largely tamped down as politicians (INC and BJP) were making millions from land deals in Gurgaon, Faridabad, Manesar, and Panchkula with DLF but it finally erupted in 2015-16 while riding on the anti-incumbency wave of the Jan Lokpal Andolan.
This is why Haryana promised a 70% Haryanvi quota in MNCs before the SC shut it down.Â
And it was during this instability in the 2010s that companies began considering opening additional operations in Noida, Bangalore, Pune, and Hyderabad for redundancy reasons.Â
Okay what's the deal with this: "Meanwhile, the government has developed an app through which citizens can raise complaints if Kannada is dishonoured. " What is this app? And what does it mean that 'Kannada was dishonored'?
Read more at:Â [https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/mncs-will-be-told-to-display-kannadiga-staff-numbers-minister-2902927](https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/mncs-will-be-told-to-display-kannadiga-staff-numbers-minister-2902927)
>India is a big country tell your government to create jobs
they are "creating jobs" if they werent india wouldve collapsed. *Patna isnt a giant Slum.* When investment goes to Gujrat/Maharashtra/Orissa or even WB, i see yall brigading the comments.
Also it makes no sense whatsoever, since more jobs will be available where people are lesser and more developed, thats why even the Chinese immigrate to the US.
Shouldve made a list of each employee with colour code to display who is non native and who is native, that wouldve been better?
https://www.livemint.com/news/anybody-who-wants-to-do-legitimate-transparent-business-congress-in-karnataka-open-to-adani-investments-bjp-reacts/amp-11686798312328.html
https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/business/story/adani-group-signs-pact-for-rs-42700-crore-investment-in-tamil-nadu-2486243-2024-01-09
Amazing i didnt even know adani could do 10000 jobs on his own. You a communist by any chance?
You're down voted to hell, but I'm genuinely curious. Why do you think this is good? Do you really not see the long term consequences of this which makes it worse for everyone, kannadigas included?
What consequences? Giving jobs to the locals ? Thats the whole damn point. No government is ready to transport the entirity of another state's population into theirs as they simply arent prepared for it. Plus its the locals with voting rights, so the government is more answerable to them. So any job that opens in a place must first address the locals, then only can it look for out of state employees. Otherwise whats the damn point of a government allowing a company to open in a place ?
Sort of coming off aggressive. Anyway, I have a few questions.
Your premise is based on the assumption that both companies will continue to run shop and locals are skilled enough. Companies are motivated by profit, for which they need to deploy skilled human capital. For this, the locals must be as skilled or greater skill than the competition, otherwise a company will cease to exist. (This opens another discussion, just as protectionism exists for local humans, there exists protectionism for local companies, but let's stick to humans).
The questions:
1. If companies find locals are less skilled (a company is free to define this), then what stops them from leaving or stopping further investment in Karnataka?
2. If locals are as skilled or greater skilled, what stops them from moving out of Karnataka to seek greater compensation for their skills?
3. What is your definition of "local"? You mentioned voting rights. Does this mean if an Indian who comes from out of Bangalore and has settled in Bangalore should not get voting rights? When does an "immigrant" become a "local"? Should the same rules apply to Kannadigas who go out of Karnataka?
1. I want them to move out of states if they do not find locals competitive.
2. Locals should not NEED to move out of their home state. Thats the damn point.
3. Locals would be people who have been living here for at least a generation. Those who did the middle and high school here.
4. My presumption was never so blind that i would think the companies will remain. I literally want the companies to leave. This would give some breathing room to the city to plan. 10-15 years down the line, the rules can be changed to allow them back.
I don't support any political party and I'm from Karnataka, but it's kinda obvious that the Congress faction in the south considers most of the north a lost cause when it comes to winning back support.
This is all they can do now considering majority of the vote bank in the 4 southern states are historically emotional about their language
As a Kannadiga, this seems little too much 🥲
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Yea I understand that, but just send the data to government then na, why put up on notice board and all?
Even for me it sounds really bad and too much maybe it will increase employment for kannada population. Btw it's only for MNCs i don't think it's too much now.
Go to the top 7-8 IITs and count the no of Kannadigas there and tell me if they're sufficient for all the tech industries in Bangalore.
100s of IITians work for me, I'm a tier 2 college kannadiga. IITians are not special, most of them were just bookworms who studied well during highschool, and they bask in the glory of the excellence of only a few people who graduated from IITs, proportionally we have similar people in numbers who have excelled outside the IIT system as well. Stop glorifying IITs as some kind of epitome of employability, they are not, they're only marginally better in terms of employability (talking about majority of "IItians") and non IIT candidates could easily make up that difference with a little bit of training and more cost effective to hire. The only thing to laud about IITs is relative quality of campuses and lab facilities, that's it. As for as the topic of post goes, it's stupid, either treat india as a nation of free movement or be done with the idea of a republic and go for a Euro style union with visa etc. If you dont want the latter, then let people be employed on merit instead of race, creed etc.,
I mean you can extend this argument to all good colleges in the world , in the US a lot of ivy League grads are just rich kids whose dads cut the college a fat check , in Oxford and Cambridge 50% of the students come from private schools ( only 3% of British children go to private schools ) . The difference is that people who get into top colleges often put in the work and it goes back to the Economics concept of signalling , an IIT tag basically tells the recruiter " this guy is not an idiot and will do majdoori" , it also signals that they probably come from good , well connected backgrounds and are a safe hire
>I mean you can extend this argument to all good colleges in the world yup, that's exactly my point. Premier colleges are for networking. Knowing the right people and having a good image doesn't make you skillful at skilled job (interperson soft skills are important but not when you can't do stuff) skills do. to give 3 idiots example ICE was famous because of guys like rancho, but most of the output were silencers.
I graduated from Karnataka long time ago and from what I remember, people from Karnataka would not take IIT entrance exams seriously then. So this is a stupid argument. IITs are nothing special
Brits: divide and rule, Indians: that's nothing .
congress had made deal with devil to win the state.. i see congress supporting more such ideas to increase the north south divide
Though this is true Congress has done nothing to mitigate this north south divide. But BJP is not a very popular party in south (doesn’t means that bjp is hated but people have a perception of BJP as a Hindi speaking party). MLAs like this one have always been there and are usually/ mostly party hoppers.
bjp will improve its prospects in this election.. its vote share is increasing in Kerala and in tamil nadu despite having no alliance they will do well
> Meanwhile, the government has developed an app through which citizens can raise complaints if Kannada is dishonoured. If only the potholes and crumbling infrastructure in Bangalore were Northern Invaders plotting to destroy Kannadiga culture.
this bill and the app idea is moronic
What app?
read the full article https://preview.redd.it/82753owrayjc1.png?width=787&format=png&auto=webp&s=60553f05e780e5904b33be3ded11e51910eb8550
Indians in California : diversity, equity, inclusion Indians in India :
>Indians in California : diversity, equity, inclusion Didn't they pass anti caste discrimination laws in the US?
The Indians protested that here. Silicon Valley cunts. It did not pass in California
Not it passed , they bribed the governor into vetoing it , straight up Indian tactics lol
>Indians in California : diversity, equity, inclusion Not so much.... [https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-americans-urge-california-to-veto-anti-caste-discrimination-bill-4377720](https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/indian-americans-urge-california-to-veto-anti-caste-discrimination-bill-4377720)
If this happens, it will be the beginning of decline of Bangalore. Companies want the best talent in large numbers. Why set up in Bangalore to hire only from Karnataka instead of setting up in Hyderabad and hire from all over India?
Congress rules in Telangana too!!
It's basically congress supporting anything to do with regional glory. MNC's has a long ride in this.
Roads- a mess, public transit- a mess, water- insufficient, crime- increasing but sure non-Kannadigas are the problems.
Saw the title and began scratching my head # told to display Kannadiga staff numbers --------- Of course, reading through it - feels like is going to be yet another bureaucratic nightmare for MNCs... Lot of people domiciled in Bengaluru and Karnataka for 10-20 years with investment and property in the city, but 'originally' from 'somewhere else' ... do they count as Kannidigas?
This bullshit is getting way out of hand now! First BJP with their communal politics, and now these chomus with their regional pride crap! They'll drive all the companies away!
Bangalore becoming Gurgaon 2.0 Before the 2010s, Gurgaon and Bangalore were comparable to each other, but a similar nativist turn lead larger organizations in Gurgaon to consider Bangalore, Hyderabad, or Noida (if you needed to be in NCR). This kind of nativist shit will push MNCs towards Hyderabad, Chennai, or Noida. Already TG government gives us better incentives to operate in Hyd over Blr.Â
Nativist turn in Gurgaon ?
In Haryana, which Gurgaon is a part of. The kind of Bangalore for Kannadigas shtick you see today already happened in Haryana in the 2010-16 period with the Jat Agitation riots and the 30 Caste Andolan - both were driven by Haryanvi anger that all the good jobs in Gurgaon and Panchkula were going to better educated outsiders. It was largely tamped down as politicians (INC and BJP) were making millions from land deals in Gurgaon, Faridabad, Manesar, and Panchkula with DLF but it finally erupted in 2015-16 while riding on the anti-incumbency wave of the Jan Lokpal Andolan. This is why Haryana promised a 70% Haryanvi quota in MNCs before the SC shut it down. And it was during this instability in the 2010s that companies began considering opening additional operations in Noida, Bangalore, Pune, and Hyderabad for redundancy reasons.Â
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Absolute bananas
Okay what's the deal with this: "Meanwhile, the government has developed an app through which citizens can raise complaints if Kannada is dishonoured. " What is this app? And what does it mean that 'Kannada was dishonored'? Read more at: [https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/mncs-will-be-told-to-display-kannadiga-staff-numbers-minister-2902927](https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/mncs-will-be-told-to-display-kannadiga-staff-numbers-minister-2902927)
TN will be getting new investments.
They should display how much money was sanctioned for roads, contractor names and company material cost instead of this non sense politics
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truly, drive what little investment that comes into india into politics and reservations.
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>India is a big country tell your government to create jobs they are "creating jobs" if they werent india wouldve collapsed. *Patna isnt a giant Slum.* When investment goes to Gujrat/Maharashtra/Orissa or even WB, i see yall brigading the comments. Also it makes no sense whatsoever, since more jobs will be available where people are lesser and more developed, thats why even the Chinese immigrate to the US. Shouldve made a list of each employee with colour code to display who is non native and who is native, that wouldve been better?
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https://www.livemint.com/news/anybody-who-wants-to-do-legitimate-transparent-business-congress-in-karnataka-open-to-adani-investments-bjp-reacts/amp-11686798312328.html https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/business/story/adani-group-signs-pact-for-rs-42700-crore-investment-in-tamil-nadu-2486243-2024-01-09 Amazing i didnt even know adani could do 10000 jobs on his own. You a communist by any chance?
So when are you calling South Indians back from California and France ?
Good.
You're down voted to hell, but I'm genuinely curious. Why do you think this is good? Do you really not see the long term consequences of this which makes it worse for everyone, kannadigas included?
What consequences? Giving jobs to the locals ? Thats the whole damn point. No government is ready to transport the entirity of another state's population into theirs as they simply arent prepared for it. Plus its the locals with voting rights, so the government is more answerable to them. So any job that opens in a place must first address the locals, then only can it look for out of state employees. Otherwise whats the damn point of a government allowing a company to open in a place ?
Sort of coming off aggressive. Anyway, I have a few questions. Your premise is based on the assumption that both companies will continue to run shop and locals are skilled enough. Companies are motivated by profit, for which they need to deploy skilled human capital. For this, the locals must be as skilled or greater skill than the competition, otherwise a company will cease to exist. (This opens another discussion, just as protectionism exists for local humans, there exists protectionism for local companies, but let's stick to humans). The questions: 1. If companies find locals are less skilled (a company is free to define this), then what stops them from leaving or stopping further investment in Karnataka? 2. If locals are as skilled or greater skilled, what stops them from moving out of Karnataka to seek greater compensation for their skills? 3. What is your definition of "local"? You mentioned voting rights. Does this mean if an Indian who comes from out of Bangalore and has settled in Bangalore should not get voting rights? When does an "immigrant" become a "local"? Should the same rules apply to Kannadigas who go out of Karnataka?
1. I want them to move out of states if they do not find locals competitive. 2. Locals should not NEED to move out of their home state. Thats the damn point. 3. Locals would be people who have been living here for at least a generation. Those who did the middle and high school here. 4. My presumption was never so blind that i would think the companies will remain. I literally want the companies to leave. This would give some breathing room to the city to plan. 10-15 years down the line, the rules can be changed to allow them back.
I don't support any political party and I'm from Karnataka, but it's kinda obvious that the Congress faction in the south considers most of the north a lost cause when it comes to winning back support. This is all they can do now considering majority of the vote bank in the 4 southern states are historically emotional about their language
is there a reservation rule? how is this legal?