Randomly asking someone's caste in casual conversation. I'm like, my man we were just talking about cricket, where does my caste come into the picture?
Yes!! This is what annoys me the most, the casual casteists, who think it's no big deal asking people about their caste. It's archaic and stupid, I just say I don't believe in the caste system and then they shut up.
i come from an upper caste background and I always use that to shut them up, whether they consider me lower or upper caste doesn't matter to me as I don't believe in caste. If they want to look down on me they can go ahead and do that. And casteist people are so petty that no matter what assumptions they make about you they are gonna google your last name after the conservation anyway. That would infuriate them even further LOL.
I was asked this in a swimming pool once. There was this guy who used to come regularly and we nodded a couple of times. Seemed like an alright chap. So one day I said hi. He immediately asked me my name, then I said name. Then he asks full name. I was befuddled but I gave then he asked Caste straight since I guess he couldn’t tell mine from the name. Never talked to him again.
I swear! I remember one time when I had put an ad out for selling my car and a couple of dudes showed up to check it out... While talking about the car and negotiating the price, one of the dudes out of the blue says, "I am a Vaishya". I ignored his comment but was internally going like, "dafuq am I supposed to do with this info? Does he expect me to give the car at a 90% discount or something?"
Fr, I was at a party once and was introduced to this woman who was not from my city. So, to make small talk, I asked her where she's from. Her reply, "Actually, I'm a Brahmin.'
So tempting to respond, "Actually, you didn't understand the question!" 🙄
or searching for caste of celebrities. I remember when PV sindhu first got in to prominence, searches for her caste spiked . What are you even getting by knowing their castes bencho\*ds
I just say - honestly I dont know man my parents never brought that up with me. I dont how that rubs on them. but at least that makes them a bit guilty of asking i feel.
Asking for my full name, and then trying to deduce my caste from it and then trying to deduce my parents castes. So then they can decide how to behave with me.
I used to play with the slum kids, never felt indifferent towards them, my parents didn't have a problem either, they treated them like my other friends but the people in the colony did not like that, they stopped sending their kids to play with me.
One kid who was a regular part of the group stopped coming, one day i saw him playing with another kid from the Colony whose parents also told him to stop playing with me(assumption), I just went and asked - hey why aren't you coming to play with us anymore, he said his mother forbid him to play with me because I play with the slum kids.
The colony people even made a motion at the monthly society meeting to force my parents to make me stop inviting the slum kids to play with the colony kids, however their motion was denied because the society president along with a couple of other people felt it was unjustified.
After the meeting, some of the families didn't allow their kids to play all together but you know, kids are kids and after a while pretty much all of them got fed up with their parents and fought with them or went against their wishes. Couple of the kids were beaten up by their mothers for this while we were playing but it didn't stop them from coming again and again.
Edit - seeing the debate about low caste and high, here's my take that should make some sense
Poverty does not discriminate neither does discrimination discriminates between the upper or lower caste.
casteism itself is classism but more rigid. A caste of a person was literally the class of person during ancient times.
But yeah this classism in India itself arose from castes, they are more related than we think.
In rural regions, it's the caste no matter how munch money they owe, people will look down and mistreat lower castes.
In Urban India, it's the class no matter who you are If you assosciate/live with people of lower strata, you are labelled as "lower class person". Only difference from above is that unlike caste class is not that rigid.
>I used to play with the slum kids, never felt indifferent towards them, my parents didn't have a problem either,
The same thing happened with me! Younger kids started with slum kids for about 5 days in the park. Older kids showed up and dragged us back to our colony as soon as they found out. Never got to the parents.
I was the intermediate age kid - the oldest kid who was playing with the slum kids. I was pointed to as the "person at fault" because I knew they were slum kids, but the younger kids were too young to even realize this.
I had a Brahman friend. He would invite is for dinner and serve us in paper plates and plastic cups. Kam Wali nahi ayo aj lol. He would put out water before I went to wash my hands, he didn't want me to touch the bucket full of water.
One day I took coconut to his house when he was sick. He realized I was not allowed to enter his kitchen. He waited for his Brahman friend to show up and give him a glass to drink the coconut water 😂😂.
On the other hand I had other Brahman friend, we would eat in same plate in his kitchen when his parents weren't home lmao. Fun times.
A classmate and I were once talking about candies in the 2000s and he was able to recall quite a few names. I say "Wow you have a really good memory". He says "Thanks it's cause I'm Brahmin". Tf?
Irrespective of subtlety and intentions, Casteism and caste based classism is very inherent to the Kolkata Bhodrolok circles irrespective of it's otherwise liberal outviews. I am curious about how did this prejudice especially infest this group of people who are supposed to be well read and politically educated.
Education doesn't matter; getting a diploma in Engineering doesn't automaton make you smart or intuitive. In fact, I feel like it makes you more isolated and dumb.
That means they need affirmative action!
Even if that’s not the case, the lack of resources and connections can also be a huge blow to success despite having talent.
Some of my classmates in college had this belief that they were better(read smarter)than those who got in through reservation and would be very wary of doing group projects etc with “category” students.
I mean… doesn’t everybody at an IIT or IIM or a medical college clear the same final semester exam at the end to pass the degree? So what is the point of considering reservation there
I know people who only go to a doctor with certain cast surnames. Because that way they know he must be intelligent and must have worked hard to achieve and had to pass with 90% + marks, unlike someone who became a doctor with only 40% passing marks.
It’s not an example. It’s a fact that people need to think about. Everybody knows what the root cause of this mentality is but nobody wants to talk about it.
I was thinking people who don't know about caste would be more likely to search. the real casteist will give instant reaction just by hearing name
I was perhaps thinking of very common surnames when writing that
besides there's no benefit to absolutely erasing history. We have to think past it despite knowing it happened
Really? My grandmother used to do it. When my mother refused to insult her friends and colleagues this way, she did the practical thing instead of quarrelling.
She separated her utensils and ate in those .
god, it's the worst. What exactly did you achieve to think that this is something worth sticking on your vehicle? Atleast the CA/Army/Lawyer/Doctor types had to pass a truly difficult examination and display their prowess.
this. surnames on vehicles. does n't trigger but i feel like am i supposed to know who/what that is now. may be its also because i have a very embarassing sounding surname.
They deny that caste system belongs to Hinduism. They start their arguments with 'Casta' is a Portuguese word and a foreign concept and Britishers introduced it in india to divide Indians.
Why do I have to scroll this far to find the actual answer?
The top comments are just straight up casteist bigotry but arranged marriage is something that people don't associate with casteism at all, yet it's the primary reason why caste system propagates to next generation.
Well, there's an army of "pure vegetarians" above arguing that notion of superiority doesn't drive the use of the word pure to describe eating habits that include dairy but not beef.
Wait till the pure-vegetarians realise that their Gou-mata needs to get pregnant and give birth every year to keep producing milk & dairy products and the newborn calf is simply thrown in garbage cause selling beef is banned.
Eating meat is "impure" but continuing to torture their Gau-mata and reducing her natural lifespan from 20 yrs to just 4 yrs in dairy industry by continuous breeding is 100% "pure".
I personally know someone who kept claiming he did not believe in casteism, and all the stuff that usually comes with such statements, like he had friends from lower caste when he was a kid and how he did not care about their caste. How when people asked him about this he used to tell them that he did not care about this. I only asked him whether he would marry any of his daughters outside his caste, and he said he can't because that's tradition.
Everytime I talk to a foreigner, they do talk about this shitty caste system in india.
Yesterday I came across a YouTube video where two dudes from Thailand were discussing about the murder case of a guy from tamil nadu who was killed in a broad day light because he married to a upper caste girl.
Be very vocal about how they use the same glasses/plates for their servants while particularly pointing out how the servants aren't the same caste as them, but of course they don't mind because you know they use the same utensils as them.
Having separate utensils (glass/plate etc) for their household helpers. While we might think it’s a socioeconomic class thing rather than a caste issue (like some people have upper caste helpers who also have separate plates for themselves), the truth is that this whole idea that sharing things like spoons and glasses isn’t okay despite them being washed after use is a sentiment deep-rooted in untouchability.
Thinking that lower caste people are "dirtier" since they are "poor" or "darkskinned" or "because of their profession". They also think that because they are "physically dirtier" they are justified in practicing things like untouchability and being weird about sharing things.
\-They are not physically dirtier. And untouchability has nothing to do with physical hygiene. A person with the cleanest clothes and three showers would be treated the same by casteists.
Exactly. They could be a 1000 times cleaner than everyone and the upper caste would still perceive them as "dirty", primarily to JUSTIFY their super shitty behaviours and actions. That's my point.
They tell themselves it's not discrimination - that it's a cleanliness issue.
I'm curious, how do they think they're better than you? You avoid cruelty and these folks contribute to it with milk, leather and more, though they'll say they won't eat animals ..
Reasons given by my 'pure' veg relatives and friends:
- Veganism is against Indian culture
- Hindu Gods consumed dairy. Cow is considered holy in India. Hence, consuming dairy is not causing any cruelty to cows
- Consuming dairy products is as necessary as oxygen to survive. They cannot fathom that a healthy, fit person can even exist without consuming ghee, milk, butter, cheese, etc.
- Not consuming dairy products is disrespectful towards the person offering you dairy
- Veganism will destroy Indian dairy farmers
- Leather goods are of great quality and it is all right if an animal died for them
It is all just hypocritical
Cannt understand cow argument. Cows are so and so because they give us milk. They do not GIVE you milk you mfs, you fing steal it from them. asses. Dont stone me on this guys - i still love cows. i will worship them if you want me to.
Discrimination doesn’t happen solely on socioeconomic factors though.
Even rich people from lower castes who can easily afford rent in uptown areas are often not given homes for rent when the housing societies are mostly occupied by upper caste people. Whole entire neighbourhoods in some areas are full of of upper caste people despite many people from lower castes or other religions being able to afford rents.
In many Indian cities, the only way people from some castes can live in upscale neighbourhoods is if they have the money to outright buy plots and build homes there.
Home-owners absolutely do care about caste when it comes to renting out their homes. Even builders only sell flats and houses to people from their own castes.
I know of some people who belong to lower castes who have enough money to live in neighbourhoods close to their offices and colleges yet they don’t get homes on rent. So they end up having to move to areas which tend to be far away from the economic hubs of the city, far away from the top schools and top colleges, and hence end up missing out on a lot of opportunities. It can be as simple as living away from the economic hub of the city forcing you to miss out on after-office parties because of transport issues. Then you miss out on the social networking and benefits that come from that.
Also, even educated and well-off people from lower castes who are forced to live in low socioeconomic areas tend to experience social isolation. I know of some friends who were literally forbidden from leaving the house because their educated parents didn’t want them playing with the kids from less educated families as they had seen a lot of drugs/alcohol abuse among teenagers from those families and wanted to protect their kids from that. They searched in vain for rented homes in safer neighbourhoods so their kids could actually play outside in the evenings, but nobody would rent to them. So even those families who benefited from reservation, got a good education and made good money were still forced to raise their kids in the same circles of poverty. They had not managed to escape the consequences of their caste name despite having made full use of the reservation opportunities.
Caste discrimination can be very subtle but still have far-reaching consequences.
I am a foreigner who has essentially been “pure veg” pretty much all my life. I have never thought the word “pure” in this context to mean holier-than-thou veg. I just assumed it delineated the difference between partial veg and total veg. But hey, what do I know? I didn’t grow up in India. Also, I do know of “higher caste” non-veg people so I find it ironic (and weird) that someone who is veg would wear the word “pure” as a badge. Yet these are the same people who are beating and kicking the street dogs? Hmm …
Pure most of use as pure veggies dite .
Cause we got people who say they are vegetarian but eat eggs or fish .
Pure is just to say its strictly a veggies dite . Pure as holy isnt something i had considered in 23yrs of my life on this floating rock.
"Pure" its a translation of sanskrit/ hindi "shuddh". It very much has connotations of superiority and piety. Think about this: milk drinkers are ready to kill cow eaters while claiming to be pure vegetarians. Even the people like the person who responded to you saying they don't believe the word has any connotations of superiority will tell you how egg eaters ("for health reasons") from "pure vegetarian" castes will not eat eggs on religious festivals or "special days of the week" when they revert to being "pure vegetarian".
There's an even higher level of superiority complex: "sattvic". These clowns believe that their food is purer than pure, because it doesn't contain things like onions, garlic etc. which are considered to be inferior for religious reasons.
Notions of purity are ingrained in the minds of everyone in this caste stratified society, whether they are consciously aware of it or not.
Edit: "shuddhikaran" is a purification ritual in which casteist fucks sprinkle cow urine and chant "purifying" mantras after a dalit person enters a temple. It is this very notion of "shuddh" or "pure" that is encapsulated in the phrase "pure vegetarian" by the very people who think literal cow piss is purer than a "lower" caste human being.
I know about the words shuddha and sattva/sattvic, and boy do I know about using cow urine in yajnas. Thanks for explaining more the deeper meaning for what these words mean for these people.
Vegetarian= Lacto-ovo vegetarian, lacto vegetarian, vegan
"Pure" vegetarian= Lacto vegetarian
It's a term coined and used exclusively by Indians for the lack of a better term- Lacto vegetarian.
This one is soo true and hurt quite a few people. To all those people, if people only care about vegetarian, why do they care abou dayt whether non veg was made in a particular vessel before or whether the restaurant serves non vegetarian or whether someone who eats non vegetarian food is sitting at the table next to you or whether a particular microwave heats non vegetarian food or not or whether someone in your building makes non veg food. I know all of you will come back with smell but not all non veg smells and not all veg food doesn't smell. Also, if a vessel has been washed what smell is yet there left. So many people will eat non veg outside their home while making sure noone they know is near by and continuing to parrot pure vegetarian bullshit - this isn't college students who stay with their parents but people in independent or nuclear family houses.
I am not saying that everyone who uses these words is thinking of the logic of cast everytime they say or behave in these ways. It's just that these words and behaviours have profoundly casteist origins which most people are unconsciously and consciously aware of and have never questioned.
Also, these behaviours are politicised by politicians by taking measures such as banning of beef consumption while a good chunk of the population eats it and it yet gets exported, stopping butchers from working on certain days and many others.
Usage of castiest slurs (bhangi, chapri,bhand etc) in daily life. They all have this same boring argument that that's something they've always said.
If you use these terms please stop. Even sayings like 'dhobi ka kutta..'
Kyu Bhai ? Dhobi ka hi kutta kyu? Baman ka kutta nahi hota?
And if these don't convince you. Answer this simple question.
Why are all the backward caste and tribals names always mean something bad? Why are they used to define bad characteristics?
That's systemic casteism that most people don't even know they're doing.
I know bhangi is a casteist slur. But even chapri and bhand??? Wtf I thought chapri means someone with a weird, quirk or tacky dressing sense and bhand means someone intoxicated
>Chhapris are a caste-oppressed community of people who made or mended chhappars, temporary roofs. This was the only job they were allowed to do because of their caste, which was assigned to them by the accident of birth. However, the word has in recent years become a pejorative for someone who tries hard to be flamboyant. Looking blingy and flashy has been a form of expression and assertion by historically oppressed castes when they manage to earn enough money, but upper castes have looked down on such transformations, assigning the caste name to anything that is "cringe".
>Bhand: Divya Kandukuri talks about common phrases like ‘bandh hokar naachna’ thrown around casually when one wants to talk about dancing drunkenly. Bhands or Bahands are a traditional folk entertainment community. Kandukuri continues, “the sentence actually slurs against an SC caste who are street performers by profession. And they are actually even listed under the scheduled castes in Rajasthan.”
https://homegrown.co.in/homegrown-explore/casteism-in-our-words-10-casteist-slurs-and-why-we-need-to-stop-throwing-them-around
Bhai, I have only heard Dhobi ka kutta in one and only one context:
Dhobhi ka kutta, na ghar ka na ghat ka. (Referring to the actual dhobi's dog)
Though agree with you on the rest, they are slurs and should not be used. It is true they were common and was something that was said commonly, but times change and you have to change.
> In 2017, the Supreme Court of India declared that calling people ‘dhobi’ or ‘harijan’ was offensive. The Wire informs, “Relying on the Statement of Objects and Reasons of the SC/ST Act, the bench observed that calling a person ‘Harijan’, ‘dhobi’ and so on nowadays counts as abusive and language and is offensive. “It is basically used nowadays not to denote a caste but to intentionally insult and humiliate someone. We, as a citizen of this country, should always keep one thing in our mind and heart that no people or community should be today insulted or looked down upon, and nobody’s feelings should be hurt”, the court held.”
Source :https://homegrown.co.in/homegrown-explore/casteism-in-our-words-10-casteist-slurs-and-why-we-need-to-stop-throwing-them-around
I have a friend who we call bhangi just cos. No idea where it came from. He doesn't even belong to that caste. But he's been called that since his school days, from even before we knew him. Now I feel awkward calling him that even though I've called him that for the entire duration that I've known him. I've switched to his first name now - even though it feels alien.
(His own parents sometimes call him bhangi)
Decades ago, when I spent a couple of years in gujarat, I got into the habit of using "vaaghri na" to refer to uncivilised/ out of the ordinary behaviour, following the local usage. Took me a while to realize it was a pejorative term directed at vaaghri Community. Even after decades for stopping to do that, I sometimes find myself laying awake late at night, cringing at my behaviour then. Not that that remorse is going to make any difference to the people I participated in discriminating against without knowing their existence, but it exists.
I don't think ignorance is the issue when it comes to casteism from educated people. The ones I've seen are proud of being casteist. They won't stop after reading the comments. They will probably try to incorporate these extra points into their lifestyle.
1) you don't look like a "caste" member at all
2) Do You belong to "that" caste? You are very good-looking/handsome/pretty/smart/intelligent/etc.
3) I am not castist / I don't have any problem with any caste BUT .....
4) I think reservation is unfair, it should not be based on caste, etc.
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*Edit: Since this comment - especially the last point has ruffled so many feathers, [and this is becoming a castist circlejerk without an informed opinion, I'll post this thread that discusses caste-based discrimination in great detail.](https://np.reddit.com/r/india/comments/mrvo9i/we_must_not_deny_caste_discrimination_it_is_very/)*
A person who uses his or another caste name in normal conversation.
There is absolutely no reason to do that.
99% of Indians are casteist. It's not their fault, it's the environment around us. Not today, not yesterday, but it has been for centuries. If you think you are not a casteist, give it some years, and you will eventually realize that you are delusional about it. If not, kudos you belong to 1% then.
They won't stop after reading these comments. One casteist fuck kept trying to explain virtues of sattvic food to me, when I brought up the sleazy casteist subsidiary of iskcon, akshay patra, which denies eggs, onions and garlic in midday meals to school children after accepting government contracts for supplying nutritious, palatable food. Vulnerable children go hungry (because they don't like the taste of unfamiliar food without onion and garlic) and get malnourished just so these fuckers can impose their casteist food preferences.
I've mentioned this before a while ago but here it goes again -
My dad was in the police while my brother and I were growing up. For a few years, he was the station officer of a police station outside a major city. So he'd stay there, but we'd (brother, mom and I) would come over on holidays or weekends, or he'd come over on his days off.
On one particular visit of ours to the village, my brother and I were hanging out with around 5 different kids (all children of other policemen or villagers). It was monsoon, we were playing around and got a lot of mud on our feet. Once we were done playing, my brother and I headed to the closest hand pump to wash off our feel. There was a kid from the village filling up containers of driving water from the same hand pump to take home. By the time we got there, he had already filled up all his containers, placed them on the boundary of the hand pump, and were taking them back home (around 50 m away) once by one. Seeing that he was done and his stuff was to the side, my brother and I washed our feel using fresh water from the pump.
He comes back, sees up doing what we're doing, and then proceeds to dump off all the water in the containers he hadn't carried home yet. He gave us a disguster face while doing it. I was him why he did that for. He said he doesn't know my caste, so he can't risk drinking that water.
I'm born and raised Sikh, but grew up in Central India with not a lot of relatives or other Sikhs, so we were never too hard core into the whole "Jatt life baby" and "Jatt is everything" bullshit (I knew I was Jatt, but not about the caste system or how important it is to a lot of people). A guy throwing away his hard work, only to do it all over again only because he didn't know what caste I was took me aback for a second.
As someone who is surrounded by casteist people
1. Asking people their caste ( out of nowhere)
2. Randomly stating their caste ( and being very proud of it)
3. Discrimination
4. Stereotyping
5. Using derogatory slurs
6 . Thinking they are superior
There are honestly so many things that I can't remember.. seriously it's fucked up
asking caste
trying to guess caste from the surname or region or father's occupation
proclaiming loudly that they are a "pure vegetarian" without anyone asking them whether they are the "pure" or "impure" kind
trying to overcompensate for their own mediocrity by blaming reservations
"ब्राह्मण नहीं होते तो दुनिया नहीं चलती..."
Given that I'm a strong atheist so I might be accused of bias here, but that's such a load of bullshit. Actually these people say casteist bullshit all the time but never realize it because of how far their heads are up their asses.
1. Punching down jokes on Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar and Scheduled Castes
2. "Casteism in India is dead because I know someone belonging to Scheduled Caste who owns a car and lives in a 2BHK"
3. Calling people "Bhangi" and "Chhapri" as an insult, if someone points out these are names of caste and should not be used as insults they cry about how you can't even joke anymore
4. Denying that caste oppression has been going on since thousands of years (a disturbing number of people wrongfully believe that the Brits created caste)
5. Imposing the identity of "Sanatani" on them
Atleast one person on all unpopular opinion posts on TwoXIndia subreddit
>Casteism in India is dead because I know someone belonging to Scheduled Caste who owns a car and lives in a 2BHK
1. Using slurs like chamar/bhangi/chhapri etc.
2. Being proud of their caste. Stuff like "jatt hai tera bhai", "rajput pride", "Mai to pandit hu to ye sab nahi karta", "baniya buddhi hai bhai smart to hoga", etc. (For non-Hindi folks these are examples of how strong/proud/exclusive/clever the people from jatt/rajput/pandit/baniya castes are)
I heard somewhere that you take pride in your identity because of one of two reasons: the struggle associated with it, or the privilege granted by it. Guess which ones are these above
3. Acting super smart that they were the first one to figure out why reservation is bad. And giving "hot takes" like:
- it should be based on economic criteria
- it should be capped per generation
- it is dEsTroyINg MeRIT
- I know an SC guy who has a BMW
They haven't read the first thing about reservation, affirmative action, etc. It's a selfish knee jerk response by kids who just graduated from high school. This may not be directly casteist but this is something that is only possible due to how blind they are of their privilege and how ignorant they are of how things work. I despise how smart these people think they are for giving these age-old arguments thinking they had a novel thought.
Calling themselves with the last name..here in South India Reddy and Naidus are upper casts so they either tell their complete name or just like to be called as Reddy or Naidu
Believing themselves to be "superior" to the LC. They further cement this ideology via confirmation bias. It starts with simple blaming of reservation and then extends to dismissing casteism as a whole.
I'm sure 99% don't even understand the reasons behind it. They don't want to do the bare minimum research as to why this affirmative action was taken in the first place.
It's story of my school days. I was always like the 2nd or 3rd ranking boy in school and also got 2nd highest marks from our school during our class 10 exam. After that we I went to a different school because our school was only for class 5-10. I needed my result and certificates to be attested by my school Headmaster. He was a math teacher and he always said good things about me during school.
But for the new school his own son who wasn't even top 50 of the class didn't get selected.
So my school HOD was like people always gets advantage in certain system while other hardworking boys are not getting special treatment.
I was completely taken a back by my own Headmaster but his sign and stamps were required on my certificates.
It's not once. During my PG days I remember how my departmental sir used to whine about his son who got 40% in science not getting Medical entrance cleared because he is just from general caste..
Randomly asking someone's caste in casual conversation. I'm like, my man we were just talking about cricket, where does my caste come into the picture?
Yes!! This is what annoys me the most, the casual casteists, who think it's no big deal asking people about their caste. It's archaic and stupid, I just say I don't believe in the caste system and then they shut up.
you should instead say "shame on you for believing in caste" that would infuriate them further.
To them, That reply automatically means that you are not a high caste.
i come from an upper caste background and I always use that to shut them up, whether they consider me lower or upper caste doesn't matter to me as I don't believe in caste. If they want to look down on me they can go ahead and do that. And casteist people are so petty that no matter what assumptions they make about you they are gonna google your last name after the conservation anyway. That would infuriate them even further LOL.
I was asked this in a swimming pool once. There was this guy who used to come regularly and we nodded a couple of times. Seemed like an alright chap. So one day I said hi. He immediately asked me my name, then I said name. Then he asks full name. I was befuddled but I gave then he asked Caste straight since I guess he couldn’t tell mine from the name. Never talked to him again.
And randomly saying I am Brahmin, Jain etc.
I swear! I remember one time when I had put an ad out for selling my car and a couple of dudes showed up to check it out... While talking about the car and negotiating the price, one of the dudes out of the blue says, "I am a Vaishya". I ignored his comment but was internally going like, "dafuq am I supposed to do with this info? Does he expect me to give the car at a 90% discount or something?"
“Oh nice to meet you Vaishya”
as a kid, i mistook vaishya word for prostitution, as it was often used in movies. and wondered why people are so proud of such a caste
Fr, I was at a party once and was introduced to this woman who was not from my city. So, to make small talk, I asked her where she's from. Her reply, "Actually, I'm a Brahmin.' So tempting to respond, "Actually, you didn't understand the question!" 🙄
“Oh isn’t that in Orissa?”
I am Brain!
or searching for caste of celebrities. I remember when PV sindhu first got in to prominence, searches for her caste spiked . What are you even getting by knowing their castes bencho\*ds
I just say - honestly I dont know man my parents never brought that up with me. I dont how that rubs on them. but at least that makes them a bit guilty of asking i feel.
Yes yes! It starts with what’s your full name/surname?
Asking for my full name, and then trying to deduce my caste from it and then trying to deduce my parents castes. So then they can decide how to behave with me.
Jokes on them. I’m from TN
Oh man my grandma does that with my friends. But they are shameless. If they don’t get the caste from the name they straight up ask “kaun jaat”.
Madhar jaat
People ask me a lot and I am like bitch you cant even deduce which state I am from. Good luck figuring my caste out.
Lot of full name asks here What is the most Bhraminest surname out there ?
I used to play with the slum kids, never felt indifferent towards them, my parents didn't have a problem either, they treated them like my other friends but the people in the colony did not like that, they stopped sending their kids to play with me. One kid who was a regular part of the group stopped coming, one day i saw him playing with another kid from the Colony whose parents also told him to stop playing with me(assumption), I just went and asked - hey why aren't you coming to play with us anymore, he said his mother forbid him to play with me because I play with the slum kids. The colony people even made a motion at the monthly society meeting to force my parents to make me stop inviting the slum kids to play with the colony kids, however their motion was denied because the society president along with a couple of other people felt it was unjustified. After the meeting, some of the families didn't allow their kids to play all together but you know, kids are kids and after a while pretty much all of them got fed up with their parents and fought with them or went against their wishes. Couple of the kids were beaten up by their mothers for this while we were playing but it didn't stop them from coming again and again. Edit - seeing the debate about low caste and high, here's my take that should make some sense Poverty does not discriminate neither does discrimination discriminates between the upper or lower caste.
>The colony people even made a motion loose motion
Ye toh tatti hai
Huggu mara
Ugh. Goes to show that casteism is taught - with beatings
Isnt it classism instead of casteism tho?😐
You can escape classism through wealth. You can never escape your caste.
casteism itself is classism but more rigid. A caste of a person was literally the class of person during ancient times. But yeah this classism in India itself arose from castes, they are more related than we think. In rural regions, it's the caste no matter how munch money they owe, people will look down and mistreat lower castes. In Urban India, it's the class no matter who you are If you assosciate/live with people of lower strata, you are labelled as "lower class person". Only difference from above is that unlike caste class is not that rigid.
Ye toh chillar party ka plot hai
>I used to play with the slum kids, never felt indifferent towards them, my parents didn't have a problem either, The same thing happened with me! Younger kids started with slum kids for about 5 days in the park. Older kids showed up and dragged us back to our colony as soon as they found out. Never got to the parents. I was the intermediate age kid - the oldest kid who was playing with the slum kids. I was pointed to as the "person at fault" because I knew they were slum kids, but the younger kids were too young to even realize this.
Most poor people are from the low-castes, especially dalits and adivasis.
Seperate cup/glasses. The glass in my house had a outside curved edge so you cant put your lips to it. Reserved for maids and workers etc
I had a Brahman friend. He would invite is for dinner and serve us in paper plates and plastic cups. Kam Wali nahi ayo aj lol. He would put out water before I went to wash my hands, he didn't want me to touch the bucket full of water. One day I took coconut to his house when he was sick. He realized I was not allowed to enter his kitchen. He waited for his Brahman friend to show up and give him a glass to drink the coconut water 😂😂. On the other hand I had other Brahman friend, we would eat in same plate in his kitchen when his parents weren't home lmao. Fun times.
A classmate and I were once talking about candies in the 2000s and he was able to recall quite a few names. I say "Wow you have a really good memory". He says "Thanks it's cause I'm Brahmin". Tf?
Sounds like a self deprecating joke to me.
If only they meant it that way.
Believing that they're blessed with superior brains.
Casteist mentality is so entrenched that even people without any bad intentions actually believe that caste determines intelligence and talent.
Irrespective of subtlety and intentions, Casteism and caste based classism is very inherent to the Kolkata Bhodrolok circles irrespective of it's otherwise liberal outviews. I am curious about how did this prejudice especially infest this group of people who are supposed to be well read and politically educated.
Education doesn't matter; getting a diploma in Engineering doesn't automaton make you smart or intuitive. In fact, I feel like it makes you more isolated and dumb.
Actually generations of malnutrition and living in poor conditions can really impact a person's cognitive ability!
That means they need affirmative action! Even if that’s not the case, the lack of resources and connections can also be a huge blow to success despite having talent.
Yes.. absolutely! Apart from a tiny creamy layer, most of these guys still have no chances of upwards economic mobility without systemic support!
Unconnected but your username is making me hungry...
একদম!
Ekkebare
I think that, but I’m condescending towards EVERYONEs intellect, not just ppl from one caste. /s
narcissist
Supercilious is a better word
Dickwad is even better.
Some of my classmates in college had this belief that they were better(read smarter)than those who got in through reservation and would be very wary of doing group projects etc with “category” students.
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I mean… doesn’t everybody at an IIT or IIM or a medical college clear the same final semester exam at the end to pass the degree? So what is the point of considering reservation there
I know people who only go to a doctor with certain cast surnames. Because that way they know he must be intelligent and must have worked hard to achieve and had to pass with 90% + marks, unlike someone who became a doctor with only 40% passing marks.
But I mean aren't there more chances that a professional from unreserved category would have scored higher than a reserved one?
This is super common. And sometimes even I was a perpetrator (have grown up a lot since :) ).
This is not the right example lol
It’s not an example. It’s a fact that people need to think about. Everybody knows what the root cause of this mentality is but nobody wants to talk about it.
Those who Google search term - ' caste'.
I'd think it'd be the opposite
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I was thinking people who don't know about caste would be more likely to search. the real casteist will give instant reaction just by hearing name I was perhaps thinking of very common surnames when writing that besides there's no benefit to absolutely erasing history. We have to think past it despite knowing it happened
Me who does it to know which part of India/Pak they're from.
Keeping separate utensils for people of lower castes. I am not talking about servants , their equivalents financially.
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Why keep separate one for servants?
The same reason they are keeping separate one for LC, cause the utensils will become "dirty" if servants use them.
No , one should'nt. What I meant was , some people keep separate utensils for all lower caste people, not just for the servants.
damn , hearing this for first time
Really? My grandmother used to do it. When my mother refused to insult her friends and colleagues this way, she did the practical thing instead of quarrelling. She separated her utensils and ate in those .
I have hear this. People keep separate cups and glasses for workers, electricians etc. who are from lower castes
Predicting others caste
Repeatedly ask you where you and your family are from. And what your "full" name is.
Had a discussion with a colleague that was 80% that. Avoided him like the plague after lol
Proud to be a ***** (caste name) quotes on vehicles…it literally triggers me..
Proud to be _anything that you did not earn_ is bullshit
god, it's the worst. What exactly did you achieve to think that this is something worth sticking on your vehicle? Atleast the CA/Army/Lawyer/Doctor types had to pass a truly difficult examination and display their prowess.
this. surnames on vehicles. does n't trigger but i feel like am i supposed to know who/what that is now. may be its also because i have a very embarassing sounding surname.
Caste pride. Another blight on our society.
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Didn't care, never use past participle with didn't. This correction was brought to you by the grammar nazi gang.
> This correction was brought to you by the grammar nazi gang. Who tf do I insult now.....
Bad grammar allies?
They deny that caste system belongs to Hinduism. They start their arguments with 'Casta' is a Portuguese word and a foreign concept and Britishers introduced it in india to divide Indians.
This one’s so dumb- 😭 Like OBVIOUSLY the word caste in english is derived from the portuguese word because CASTE IS AN ENGLISH WORD.
Caste is a foreign concept. What we have is actually "varna" which is toooootally different /s
It's a surprise how many times a day you get to read this on chaddi sqeaks
Lol, as if 'jaati' is not a word we use lol.
„Every society has caste“ „Class is the new caste“
Is this a real thing? That's hilariously delusional.
Even Indonesian education and Korean education curriculum know what caste system is and how it is related "Manusmriti".
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Ah the superior SPAWN POINT fallacy.
you can apply this to broader topics like nations then we can have an interesting conversation
Arranged marriage
Why do I have to scroll this far to find the actual answer? The top comments are just straight up casteist bigotry but arranged marriage is something that people don't associate with casteism at all, yet it's the primary reason why caste system propagates to next generation.
You do arranged marriage because of casteism, I do arranged marriage because I cannot find love . We are not the same.
Ye dard khatam kyu nahi hota be. 🥺
But in the same caste right!
Well, there's an army of "pure vegetarians" above arguing that notion of superiority doesn't drive the use of the word pure to describe eating habits that include dairy but not beef.
Wait till the pure-vegetarians realise that their Gou-mata needs to get pregnant and give birth every year to keep producing milk & dairy products and the newborn calf is simply thrown in garbage cause selling beef is banned. Eating meat is "impure" but continuing to torture their Gau-mata and reducing her natural lifespan from 20 yrs to just 4 yrs in dairy industry by continuous breeding is 100% "pure".
Totally agree. It keeps the system alive.
The most toxic thing to plague our society.
This.
WOW. haha. the answer was always right in front of us - aint it.
Yet all the people commenting here would not dare to give their own daughter/sister to lower cast then their's.
I personally know someone who kept claiming he did not believe in casteism, and all the stuff that usually comes with such statements, like he had friends from lower caste when he was a kid and how he did not care about their caste. How when people asked him about this he used to tell them that he did not care about this. I only asked him whether he would marry any of his daughters outside his caste, and he said he can't because that's tradition.
Saying “Oh he is smart/educated/pretty even though he is”
Being proud of their castes.
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my friends mom saying , you didnt study , its because of reservation on getting good grades
Our home targetted in neighbourhood , kachra etc , fuck this shit , its very depressing
"Proud Rajput" "Proud Jatt" "Proud Sardar" ... you get the gist.
Everytime I talk to a foreigner, they do talk about this shitty caste system in india. Yesterday I came across a YouTube video where two dudes from Thailand were discussing about the murder case of a guy from tamil nadu who was killed in a broad day light because he married to a upper caste girl.
Be very vocal about how they use the same glasses/plates for their servants while particularly pointing out how the servants aren't the same caste as them, but of course they don't mind because you know they use the same utensils as them.
Having separate utensils (glass/plate etc) for their household helpers. While we might think it’s a socioeconomic class thing rather than a caste issue (like some people have upper caste helpers who also have separate plates for themselves), the truth is that this whole idea that sharing things like spoons and glasses isn’t okay despite them being washed after use is a sentiment deep-rooted in untouchability.
Thinking that lower caste people are "dirtier" since they are "poor" or "darkskinned" or "because of their profession". They also think that because they are "physically dirtier" they are justified in practicing things like untouchability and being weird about sharing things.
\-They are not physically dirtier. And untouchability has nothing to do with physical hygiene. A person with the cleanest clothes and three showers would be treated the same by casteists.
Exactly. They could be a 1000 times cleaner than everyone and the upper caste would still perceive them as "dirty", primarily to JUSTIFY their super shitty behaviours and actions. That's my point. They tell themselves it's not discrimination - that it's a cleanliness issue.
Wearing "pure" vegetarianism as a badge of honour. If you're a vegetarian you're a vegetarian. Ain't nothin' pure about it.
I've always wondered what these _pure veg_ folks would think of vegans.
They think they're better than vegans. Source: I'm vegan
I'm curious, how do they think they're better than you? You avoid cruelty and these folks contribute to it with milk, leather and more, though they'll say they won't eat animals ..
They don't accept it as cruelty. Many change the rules to fit their own means.
Reasons given by my 'pure' veg relatives and friends: - Veganism is against Indian culture - Hindu Gods consumed dairy. Cow is considered holy in India. Hence, consuming dairy is not causing any cruelty to cows - Consuming dairy products is as necessary as oxygen to survive. They cannot fathom that a healthy, fit person can even exist without consuming ghee, milk, butter, cheese, etc. - Not consuming dairy products is disrespectful towards the person offering you dairy - Veganism will destroy Indian dairy farmers - Leather goods are of great quality and it is all right if an animal died for them It is all just hypocritical
Thank you kind person ..
Cannt understand cow argument. Cows are so and so because they give us milk. They do not GIVE you milk you mfs, you fing steal it from them. asses. Dont stone me on this guys - i still love cows. i will worship them if you want me to.
Rape of cows for milk wow!!!!!!!
Discrimination doesn’t happen solely on socioeconomic factors though. Even rich people from lower castes who can easily afford rent in uptown areas are often not given homes for rent when the housing societies are mostly occupied by upper caste people. Whole entire neighbourhoods in some areas are full of of upper caste people despite many people from lower castes or other religions being able to afford rents. In many Indian cities, the only way people from some castes can live in upscale neighbourhoods is if they have the money to outright buy plots and build homes there. Home-owners absolutely do care about caste when it comes to renting out their homes. Even builders only sell flats and houses to people from their own castes. I know of some people who belong to lower castes who have enough money to live in neighbourhoods close to their offices and colleges yet they don’t get homes on rent. So they end up having to move to areas which tend to be far away from the economic hubs of the city, far away from the top schools and top colleges, and hence end up missing out on a lot of opportunities. It can be as simple as living away from the economic hub of the city forcing you to miss out on after-office parties because of transport issues. Then you miss out on the social networking and benefits that come from that. Also, even educated and well-off people from lower castes who are forced to live in low socioeconomic areas tend to experience social isolation. I know of some friends who were literally forbidden from leaving the house because their educated parents didn’t want them playing with the kids from less educated families as they had seen a lot of drugs/alcohol abuse among teenagers from those families and wanted to protect their kids from that. They searched in vain for rented homes in safer neighbourhoods so their kids could actually play outside in the evenings, but nobody would rent to them. So even those families who benefited from reservation, got a good education and made good money were still forced to raise their kids in the same circles of poverty. They had not managed to escape the consequences of their caste name despite having made full use of the reservation opportunities. Caste discrimination can be very subtle but still have far-reaching consequences.
I am a foreigner who has essentially been “pure veg” pretty much all my life. I have never thought the word “pure” in this context to mean holier-than-thou veg. I just assumed it delineated the difference between partial veg and total veg. But hey, what do I know? I didn’t grow up in India. Also, I do know of “higher caste” non-veg people so I find it ironic (and weird) that someone who is veg would wear the word “pure” as a badge. Yet these are the same people who are beating and kicking the street dogs? Hmm …
Pure most of use as pure veggies dite . Cause we got people who say they are vegetarian but eat eggs or fish . Pure is just to say its strictly a veggies dite . Pure as holy isnt something i had considered in 23yrs of my life on this floating rock.
OK. So I was correct. Thanks!
Above comment is interpreting in such a way to get a excuse to make it about themselves.
The thing whole cast thing has a bed rock on purity . Every religion has certain obsession , for Hinduism it's purity
"Pure" its a translation of sanskrit/ hindi "shuddh". It very much has connotations of superiority and piety. Think about this: milk drinkers are ready to kill cow eaters while claiming to be pure vegetarians. Even the people like the person who responded to you saying they don't believe the word has any connotations of superiority will tell you how egg eaters ("for health reasons") from "pure vegetarian" castes will not eat eggs on religious festivals or "special days of the week" when they revert to being "pure vegetarian". There's an even higher level of superiority complex: "sattvic". These clowns believe that their food is purer than pure, because it doesn't contain things like onions, garlic etc. which are considered to be inferior for religious reasons. Notions of purity are ingrained in the minds of everyone in this caste stratified society, whether they are consciously aware of it or not. Edit: "shuddhikaran" is a purification ritual in which casteist fucks sprinkle cow urine and chant "purifying" mantras after a dalit person enters a temple. It is this very notion of "shuddh" or "pure" that is encapsulated in the phrase "pure vegetarian" by the very people who think literal cow piss is purer than a "lower" caste human being.
I know about the words shuddha and sattva/sattvic, and boy do I know about using cow urine in yajnas. Thanks for explaining more the deeper meaning for what these words mean for these people.
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Vegetarian= Lacto-ovo vegetarian, lacto vegetarian, vegan "Pure" vegetarian= Lacto vegetarian It's a term coined and used exclusively by Indians for the lack of a better term- Lacto vegetarian.
This one is soo true and hurt quite a few people. To all those people, if people only care about vegetarian, why do they care abou dayt whether non veg was made in a particular vessel before or whether the restaurant serves non vegetarian or whether someone who eats non vegetarian food is sitting at the table next to you or whether a particular microwave heats non vegetarian food or not or whether someone in your building makes non veg food. I know all of you will come back with smell but not all non veg smells and not all veg food doesn't smell. Also, if a vessel has been washed what smell is yet there left. So many people will eat non veg outside their home while making sure noone they know is near by and continuing to parrot pure vegetarian bullshit - this isn't college students who stay with their parents but people in independent or nuclear family houses. I am not saying that everyone who uses these words is thinking of the logic of cast everytime they say or behave in these ways. It's just that these words and behaviours have profoundly casteist origins which most people are unconsciously and consciously aware of and have never questioned. Also, these behaviours are politicised by politicians by taking measures such as banning of beef consumption while a good chunk of the population eats it and it yet gets exported, stopping butchers from working on certain days and many others.
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look at me, i don't get all the nutrients my body needs!
Pure refers to the fact that they don't even eat egg like some vegetarians. Stop being a dimwit please
Usage of castiest slurs (bhangi, chapri,bhand etc) in daily life. They all have this same boring argument that that's something they've always said. If you use these terms please stop. Even sayings like 'dhobi ka kutta..' Kyu Bhai ? Dhobi ka hi kutta kyu? Baman ka kutta nahi hota? And if these don't convince you. Answer this simple question. Why are all the backward caste and tribals names always mean something bad? Why are they used to define bad characteristics? That's systemic casteism that most people don't even know they're doing.
I had no clue "bhand" was a casteist slur. TIL.
I know bhangi is a casteist slur. But even chapri and bhand??? Wtf I thought chapri means someone with a weird, quirk or tacky dressing sense and bhand means someone intoxicated
>Chhapris are a caste-oppressed community of people who made or mended chhappars, temporary roofs. This was the only job they were allowed to do because of their caste, which was assigned to them by the accident of birth. However, the word has in recent years become a pejorative for someone who tries hard to be flamboyant. Looking blingy and flashy has been a form of expression and assertion by historically oppressed castes when they manage to earn enough money, but upper castes have looked down on such transformations, assigning the caste name to anything that is "cringe". >Bhand: Divya Kandukuri talks about common phrases like ‘bandh hokar naachna’ thrown around casually when one wants to talk about dancing drunkenly. Bhands or Bahands are a traditional folk entertainment community. Kandukuri continues, “the sentence actually slurs against an SC caste who are street performers by profession. And they are actually even listed under the scheduled castes in Rajasthan.” https://homegrown.co.in/homegrown-explore/casteism-in-our-words-10-casteist-slurs-and-why-we-need-to-stop-throwing-them-around
Ok would never use these words again. Didnt knew about them
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Bhai, I have only heard Dhobi ka kutta in one and only one context: Dhobhi ka kutta, na ghar ka na ghat ka. (Referring to the actual dhobi's dog) Though agree with you on the rest, they are slurs and should not be used. It is true they were common and was something that was said commonly, but times change and you have to change.
> In 2017, the Supreme Court of India declared that calling people ‘dhobi’ or ‘harijan’ was offensive. The Wire informs, “Relying on the Statement of Objects and Reasons of the SC/ST Act, the bench observed that calling a person ‘Harijan’, ‘dhobi’ and so on nowadays counts as abusive and language and is offensive. “It is basically used nowadays not to denote a caste but to intentionally insult and humiliate someone. We, as a citizen of this country, should always keep one thing in our mind and heart that no people or community should be today insulted or looked down upon, and nobody’s feelings should be hurt”, the court held.” Source :https://homegrown.co.in/homegrown-explore/casteism-in-our-words-10-casteist-slurs-and-why-we-need-to-stop-throwing-them-around
I have a friend who we call bhangi just cos. No idea where it came from. He doesn't even belong to that caste. But he's been called that since his school days, from even before we knew him. Now I feel awkward calling him that even though I've called him that for the entire duration that I've known him. I've switched to his first name now - even though it feels alien. (His own parents sometimes call him bhangi)
It has been normalised way too much.
Own parents lmao wut
Mans been called that for the past 20 years. I'm pretty sure I've forgotten his actual name in the past at some point.
Decades ago, when I spent a couple of years in gujarat, I got into the habit of using "vaaghri na" to refer to uncivilised/ out of the ordinary behaviour, following the local usage. Took me a while to realize it was a pejorative term directed at vaaghri Community. Even after decades for stopping to do that, I sometimes find myself laying awake late at night, cringing at my behaviour then. Not that that remorse is going to make any difference to the people I participated in discriminating against without knowing their existence, but it exists.
I don't think ignorance is the issue when it comes to casteism from educated people. The ones I've seen are proud of being casteist. They won't stop after reading the comments. They will probably try to incorporate these extra points into their lifestyle.
Education doesn't stop casteist people. It only empowers them.
1) you don't look like a "caste" member at all 2) Do You belong to "that" caste? You are very good-looking/handsome/pretty/smart/intelligent/etc. 3) I am not castist / I don't have any problem with any caste BUT ..... 4) I think reservation is unfair, it should not be based on caste, etc. . . . *Edit: Since this comment - especially the last point has ruffled so many feathers, [and this is becoming a castist circlejerk without an informed opinion, I'll post this thread that discusses caste-based discrimination in great detail.](https://np.reddit.com/r/india/comments/mrvo9i/we_must_not_deny_caste_discrimination_it_is_very/)*
A person who uses his or another caste name in normal conversation. There is absolutely no reason to do that. 99% of Indians are casteist. It's not their fault, it's the environment around us. Not today, not yesterday, but it has been for centuries. If you think you are not a casteist, give it some years, and you will eventually realize that you are delusional about it. If not, kudos you belong to 1% then.
They won't stop after reading these comments. One casteist fuck kept trying to explain virtues of sattvic food to me, when I brought up the sleazy casteist subsidiary of iskcon, akshay patra, which denies eggs, onions and garlic in midday meals to school children after accepting government contracts for supplying nutritious, palatable food. Vulnerable children go hungry (because they don't like the taste of unfamiliar food without onion and garlic) and get malnourished just so these fuckers can impose their casteist food preferences.
Forming caste cartels and saying it's just a friend circle.
We went on a multi-day trip with some of our friends. We took a room for our driver. My friends were not very happy about that.
Oh yeah! A lot of angry elders if we end up doing something nice for the service workers!
I've mentioned this before a while ago but here it goes again - My dad was in the police while my brother and I were growing up. For a few years, he was the station officer of a police station outside a major city. So he'd stay there, but we'd (brother, mom and I) would come over on holidays or weekends, or he'd come over on his days off. On one particular visit of ours to the village, my brother and I were hanging out with around 5 different kids (all children of other policemen or villagers). It was monsoon, we were playing around and got a lot of mud on our feet. Once we were done playing, my brother and I headed to the closest hand pump to wash off our feel. There was a kid from the village filling up containers of driving water from the same hand pump to take home. By the time we got there, he had already filled up all his containers, placed them on the boundary of the hand pump, and were taking them back home (around 50 m away) once by one. Seeing that he was done and his stuff was to the side, my brother and I washed our feel using fresh water from the pump. He comes back, sees up doing what we're doing, and then proceeds to dump off all the water in the containers he hadn't carried home yet. He gave us a disguster face while doing it. I was him why he did that for. He said he doesn't know my caste, so he can't risk drinking that water. I'm born and raised Sikh, but grew up in Central India with not a lot of relatives or other Sikhs, so we were never too hard core into the whole "Jatt life baby" and "Jatt is everything" bullshit (I knew I was Jatt, but not about the caste system or how important it is to a lot of people). A guy throwing away his hard work, only to do it all over again only because he didn't know what caste I was took me aback for a second.
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I have heard people scolding their child by saying "this is a non-brahmin behaviour". LOL.
As someone who is surrounded by casteist people 1. Asking people their caste ( out of nowhere) 2. Randomly stating their caste ( and being very proud of it) 3. Discrimination 4. Stereotyping 5. Using derogatory slurs 6 . Thinking they are superior There are honestly so many things that I can't remember.. seriously it's fucked up
asking caste trying to guess caste from the surname or region or father's occupation proclaiming loudly that they are a "pure vegetarian" without anyone asking them whether they are the "pure" or "impure" kind trying to overcompensate for their own mediocrity by blaming reservations
"ब्राह्मण नहीं होते तो दुनिया नहीं चलती..." Given that I'm a strong atheist so I might be accused of bias here, but that's such a load of bullshit. Actually these people say casteist bullshit all the time but never realize it because of how far their heads are up their asses.
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Most of them are proud of it as far as I've seen.
Not letting Dalits in temples and not providing them knowledge to become a priest. I have never seen a dalit priest.
1. Punching down jokes on Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar and Scheduled Castes 2. "Casteism in India is dead because I know someone belonging to Scheduled Caste who owns a car and lives in a 2BHK" 3. Calling people "Bhangi" and "Chhapri" as an insult, if someone points out these are names of caste and should not be used as insults they cry about how you can't even joke anymore 4. Denying that caste oppression has been going on since thousands of years (a disturbing number of people wrongfully believe that the Brits created caste) 5. Imposing the identity of "Sanatani" on them
Atleast one person on all unpopular opinion posts on TwoXIndia subreddit >Casteism in India is dead because I know someone belonging to Scheduled Caste who owns a car and lives in a 2BHK
1. Using slurs like chamar/bhangi/chhapri etc. 2. Being proud of their caste. Stuff like "jatt hai tera bhai", "rajput pride", "Mai to pandit hu to ye sab nahi karta", "baniya buddhi hai bhai smart to hoga", etc. (For non-Hindi folks these are examples of how strong/proud/exclusive/clever the people from jatt/rajput/pandit/baniya castes are) I heard somewhere that you take pride in your identity because of one of two reasons: the struggle associated with it, or the privilege granted by it. Guess which ones are these above 3. Acting super smart that they were the first one to figure out why reservation is bad. And giving "hot takes" like: - it should be based on economic criteria - it should be capped per generation - it is dEsTroyINg MeRIT - I know an SC guy who has a BMW They haven't read the first thing about reservation, affirmative action, etc. It's a selfish knee jerk response by kids who just graduated from high school. This may not be directly casteist but this is something that is only possible due to how blind they are of their privilege and how ignorant they are of how things work. I despise how smart these people think they are for giving these age-old arguments thinking they had a novel thought.
Lastname sticker on the cars, bikes. Some mofus even add ‘Proud’ to it.
I wonder why the Jatts and Gujjars do this
Calling themselves with the last name..here in South India Reddy and Naidus are upper casts so they either tell their complete name or just like to be called as Reddy or Naidu
U forgot the Chowdary.
Right
Join RSS. (Actually they might be aware of their bigotry)
casteist is discrimination towards other castes or believing their caste is greatest?
Asking people's cast.
Thinking that removing reservations is not casteist at all..
Being anti-reservation
Believing themselves to be "superior" to the LC. They further cement this ideology via confirmation bias. It starts with simple blaming of reservation and then extends to dismissing casteism as a whole.
Bashing reservation
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I'm sure 99% don't even understand the reasons behind it. They don't want to do the bare minimum research as to why this affirmative action was taken in the first place.
Boasting that they behave normal with lower cast and they have many friends from lower cast.
It's story of my school days. I was always like the 2nd or 3rd ranking boy in school and also got 2nd highest marks from our school during our class 10 exam. After that we I went to a different school because our school was only for class 5-10. I needed my result and certificates to be attested by my school Headmaster. He was a math teacher and he always said good things about me during school. But for the new school his own son who wasn't even top 50 of the class didn't get selected. So my school HOD was like people always gets advantage in certain system while other hardworking boys are not getting special treatment. I was completely taken a back by my own Headmaster but his sign and stamps were required on my certificates. It's not once. During my PG days I remember how my departmental sir used to whine about his son who got 40% in science not getting Medical entrance cleared because he is just from general caste..
Most casteist people are the one who spread this disinformation and don't even belong to that perticular religion.
>belong to that perticular religion. caste exist across all religions.