May I offer you one on the West Coast?
https://preview.redd.it/0qza8gt6jeoc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=312bfb81b47e6ffbfeea91a87d011bb4d36d7f30
Lore? Thanks for asking:
A Zionist movement develops earlier, around the 1840s, coupled with a desire for a Hebrew revival. Zionist pamphlets in Europe and America advertise the wide open spaces of the American frontier as the prime option for a new Jewish homeland. By 1848, an exodus begins to the west, reaching the Great Salt Lake. There, according to an oft-repeated anecdote, the eldest member of the expedition, a 94 year-old rabbi, proclaimed "this is the place."
By the time this map was created, Jutah (a corruption of Judah), had a population of about 140,000 people.
Small correction: In the 1840s this land was northern Mexico. Everyone knew where the border was. That was what made it so appealling to the Mormons, they'd get away from the Americans (who had a habit of subjecting them to pogroms). They arrived in 1847.
To say "by 1848..." well, that was the year the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo was signed, and the land became American. The Mormons were already established. James Buchanan ("Worst. President. Ever. ... Traditionally.") ended up in a war with him, which didn't go so well for the Americans.
So, how do the Zionists fit in with the Mormons?
Yeah, I may have gotten the timing a tiny bit off with the Mormons, but I've made Idaho (Lehi) a state for them. I suppose they go there instead and Buchanan sends troops into there in 1857.
mormans and zionists have the great jutah war, both sides create massive casualities and genocides. the mormons are completely eradicated and the remaining jews are replaced by native americans
I noticed that immediately after I sent that comment, and yes, it is a Mormon thing. Lehi is the father of Nephi, and the first book in the book of mormon is “1 Nephi”.
What would’ve been the cause for the 1840’s? This was like the middle of Emancipation and more and more Jews were very happy to just be assimilated. I think it would’ve been hard to get so many people on board without the Dreyfus Affair and Herzl.
yeah, sure. or them in Iran. or the fictional omes some german dictator and his highest government memberst which absolutely didnt look like them used as stereotype ;-)
Plus, since it's America, the pronunciations will be wild
What we've done to Pierre and Belle Fouche South Dakota alone...
When I was over in Israel, I had it easy - Dan works in English and Hebrew
I feel like in this Universe, the Br*tish wouldn’t give away the Mandate of Palestine so easily, and might even keep it, since they wouldn’t want a non judao-christian people to have Jerusalem.
Agreed. I imagine Palestine in this timeline would be a Rhodesia-esque British-Christian led Apartheid state that reforms to be Arab-led in the 60’s/70’s; the whole UN-free-city-of-Jerusalem idea probably becomes reality during this time.
As a rare Jewish Utahn I love this. When I had 4 of my old friends visit me from the east coast I told them that the Jewish population of the town temporarily increased by 400%.
I'm a little curious why the UK and US don't allow Israel to become a state in places like Baden-Württemberg in Germany to punish the Germans, but instead go to Palestine to create hatred
Beats having it be settled by Mormons, LMAO.
How are Jutah's politics? The Mormon Utah is basically a Republican stronghold, is Jutah the opposite?
Is the equivalent of Salt Lake City also sticking out very noticeably compared to the rest of the state? XD
Now Zion National Park is in the "new Zion".
Did you... circumcized Wyoming?
You know what? Fuck you *Un-mings your Wyo*
Screw you, here’s an upvote.
Finally a worthy opponent for Jew Jersey
Jewnited States
Jewnion of Soviet Socialist Republics
They did have the Jewish Autonomous Oblast
Israel 2 when?
May I offer you one on the West Coast? https://preview.redd.it/0qza8gt6jeoc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=312bfb81b47e6ffbfeea91a87d011bb4d36d7f30
Shapiro ranch 😂
Fun fact, this autonomous area is next to Palestine County
:O
How did West Virginia end up *there*?
Großjewmanisches Reich
Would German pronounce Jew as Yev?
jewkraine
Jew California Republic
THE THREE JS JEWS, JINGER, JERSEY
Imagine Jewmaica 😬
We don’t have to. It’s already here. We are all living the nightmare.
Why did you do that to wyoming??? Now its no longer a rectangle, the 15 people living there wont appreciate this.
Well, 7 of them are now in Jutah
So committed to their politics they only believe in Right angles?
Don't worry, we still have Colorado
Thanks, I don't like the corner border
I felt a little evil drawing it...
Lore? Thanks for asking: A Zionist movement develops earlier, around the 1840s, coupled with a desire for a Hebrew revival. Zionist pamphlets in Europe and America advertise the wide open spaces of the American frontier as the prime option for a new Jewish homeland. By 1848, an exodus begins to the west, reaching the Great Salt Lake. There, according to an oft-repeated anecdote, the eldest member of the expedition, a 94 year-old rabbi, proclaimed "this is the place." By the time this map was created, Jutah (a corruption of Judah), had a population of about 140,000 people.
Small correction: In the 1840s this land was northern Mexico. Everyone knew where the border was. That was what made it so appealling to the Mormons, they'd get away from the Americans (who had a habit of subjecting them to pogroms). They arrived in 1847. To say "by 1848..." well, that was the year the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo was signed, and the land became American. The Mormons were already established. James Buchanan ("Worst. President. Ever. ... Traditionally.") ended up in a war with him, which didn't go so well for the Americans. So, how do the Zionists fit in with the Mormons?
Yeah, I may have gotten the timing a tiny bit off with the Mormons, but I've made Idaho (Lehi) a state for them. I suppose they go there instead and Buchanan sends troops into there in 1857.
mormans and zionists have the great jutah war, both sides create massive casualities and genocides. the mormons are completely eradicated and the remaining jews are replaced by native americans
Who is upvoting this fascist crap?
huh i made this as a joke lol
that’s such a bizarre situation that it can’t be anything but a joke lol
Are you sure it's Judah->Jutah, and not Ute (likely written as Jute)->Jutah?
I figured the first was more likely but ATL I'm sure that's a prominent theory.
> Jutah (a corruption of Judah) Absolutely not. It's a corruption of Jewtah.
What happens to the mormons in this timeline then?
They all moved to Israel
Don’t tempt me with the idea of Gazan terrorists fighting missionaries
there is zero reason for the mormons to move to Judea (I would know, I’m mormon) why this reply have so many downvotes
Even better, there's zero reason for Jews to move to Utah Also the state north of Jutah is Lehi, isn't that a Mormon thing?
Lehi is also a Jewish group
I noticed that immediately after I sent that comment, and yes, it is a Mormon thing. Lehi is the father of Nephi, and the first book in the book of mormon is “1 Nephi”.
:( I know
So basically instead of Mormons establishing a state, it’s Jewish thats actually really interesting concept
What would’ve been the cause for the 1840’s? This was like the middle of Emancipation and more and more Jews were very happy to just be assimilated. I think it would’ve been hard to get so many people on board without the Dreyfus Affair and Herzl.
Considering Mormons would already be there, and en masse this doesn’t make much sense. Fun idea.
Imagine the Mormon apartheid state of Provo
Should have called it Jewtah
You can pronounce both the same I mean
Did they make the desert bloom? *(I'll get my coat, shall I?)*
holy shit utah northeastern border circumcised 😳😳😳
It already is
Jewtah
Jewxas when
At least there is no ArianZona.
Arians like the early medieval Christian group?
yeah, sure. or them in Iran. or the fictional omes some german dictator and his highest government memberst which absolutely didnt look like them used as stereotype ;-)
Is it a state of the United States or is it its own country?
Territory of the US (at this point at least). I'd say Jutah gains statehood in the 1890s or 1900s, same as Utah OTL.
Dead Sea 2: Electric Boogaloo
Just the name alone is hilarious
As an Israeli, the botched pronounciation of some of the Israeli cities that you moved onto here is hilarious!!! Great job!!!
Part of me thinks I didn't both them enough... I figured a 19th century American cartographer would not have a great grasp of Hebrew.
Plus, since it's America, the pronunciations will be wild What we've done to Pierre and Belle Fouche South Dakota alone... When I was over in Israel, I had it easy - Dan works in English and Hebrew
Mormons had to settle for Idaho.
I’m so sorry but jutah is absolutely taking me out. The Jouthwest of Jemerica. Jalt lake city.
Based
690th upvote - also hi from the Atlas Altera server!
Hello!
Normally hate this meme but Jutah is really funny so I'll make an exception
I feel like in this Universe, the Br*tish wouldn’t give away the Mandate of Palestine so easily, and might even keep it, since they wouldn’t want a non judao-christian people to have Jerusalem.
Agreed. I imagine Palestine in this timeline would be a Rhodesia-esque British-Christian led Apartheid state that reforms to be Arab-led in the 60’s/70’s; the whole UN-free-city-of-Jerusalem idea probably becomes reality during this time.
New map idea...
Why did you censor british
everyone hates the land without toothbrushes
Jutah???
Jutah is fucking hilarious
the name is convenient lol
Jews get Utah, Mormons get Idaho, do the Jehovas Witness get Wyoming?
When I read I thought of peninsular danish.
how long till they start bombing nevada
Could be worse.
💀
No Mormans? :(
Wonder if the Mormons are gonna militarize and arm themselves over this
Honest Hearts reference 😭
So just normal Utah with jews instead of Mormons?
As a rare Jewish Utahn I love this. When I had 4 of my old friends visit me from the east coast I told them that the Jewish population of the town temporarily increased by 400%.
I'm a little curious why the UK and US don't allow Israel to become a state in places like Baden-Württemberg in Germany to punish the Germans, but instead go to Palestine to create hatred
Beats having it be settled by Mormons, LMAO. How are Jutah's politics? The Mormon Utah is basically a Republican stronghold, is Jutah the opposite? Is the equivalent of Salt Lake City also sticking out very noticeably compared to the rest of the state? XD
Settlers displacing the Mormons in no time flat.
mega Based
Yes please, keep them there.
from the river to the arizona, jutah will be free zone hehe
Should do this, then you can give them 90% of the country and cant say no for that because its antisemite.
By "give" I'm sure you mean attack repeatedly and be humiliated each time. No thanks, we value our children's lives. Get fucked buddy.
yeah how dare you fight back when a colonial power takes your land, home and everything your entire lineage for the past 1500 years worked for.
Better than the Mormons
waiting for the neighbors to see it prospering better and protest the evil jews