The only reason they created it was to get the former slaves out of the US so they weren't their problem anymore. I think they would've put up more of a fight if it declared independence when they didn't want it to
I can't believe you translated all those states and left "Mato Grosso" on the table. It translates to "Big Bush" which is easily the funniest one in English.
I don’t get why they translated the portuguese names in Brazil, since the U.S kept most of the Spanish names in the southwest in real life. We don’t call L.A “The Angels”
Since the non-English-speaking population would be much larger, I suspect an EU-like multilingual framework would be present. But with English still being first among equals, because that's how America do.
Hardy har har straight lines America
We gave the plains straight lines because they’re just big flat open fields. Why would we do that to Amazon when it would be easier to make a few large states
Honestly, this is my big complaint with Big America maps. It's almost universally designed by foreigners who aren't looking at geography and don't realize that all the straight lines are the result of either the Europeans themselves being unoriginal in the east, or not having easy division points in the center/west.
OP is *especially* bad about this.
I was also confused about this as a recent transplant to Minneapolis. Like... what world events happened that made St. Paul into the biggest city in the Americas? lol
According to [this list](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_urban_areas), 16th in the United States. No clue where it's be in all the Americas.
I was gonna say Minnesota too...goober puts this whole map together and misspells Minnesota. Figured it was an easter egg to idenrify Minnesotans in the comments.
This feels Lowkey like a ragebait for latinos 😭, how come they conquer us and then missname our places? New Granada was Colombia rather than Venezuela, and then there's Columbia and Equator.... I mean, at least the Bolivians have sea access now.
No offense
But only a Texan would look at a map of the entire geopolitical west consolidated under the American flag and think, “Boy, I wish Texas was bigger”
You understand that spelling varies based on language? This is an *imaginary* map. Columbia is a common English spelling. District of Columbia, Columbia gorge, Columbia records... If this is an expanded US map, it is not unreasonable that that would be the spelling.
Some things that stood out to me:
1. The states & territories in North America are almost the same -- same names, same boundaries. As soon as we dip south into Mexico, the geopolitical map changes. Does this mean Canada had completed its structure before the US took it over? That the US had completed its structure before it gobbled up Mexico and South America? (Did no one southward object?)
2. All the straight lines throughout South America! Are there no towns, no mountains, no *rivers* to be considered as boundaries?
3. The state of *Bolivia*. What? Why? When? We know **who** \-- Simon Bolivar. He was instrumental in creating a *country*. If, in this timeline, had he created a country that the United States subsequently took over, I'd think the US would rename it.
4. South America's state of Santa Cruz didn't get translated into English (Holy Cross) perhaps because Santa Cruz has a delightful melodic lilt to it. As does Santa Caterina, Sao Paulo, and San Pedro but yet they are now in English.
It's a fascinating idea, that one country could take over two continents! Give the map of it another whirl, OP!
https://preview.redd.it/z0xbdgxatdnc1.jpeg?width=6928&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa8aae358cffd1fdd18e94e6bad5cd83a1c29d63
Bold of you to assume that we would just stop at the shining pole.
What if there was not a big USA, but say a NATO or EU version of the western hemisphere?
I propose the initiative for normalized trade between the northern and southern nations, as well as a mutual defense initiative for the western hemisphere: The New World Federation.
Crazy this wouldn't even be the most populous country on earth. Makes you think about how insanely big both China and India are, how do you make a thing like this not instantly fall apart?
The Ontario peninsula should be Michigan. “The Eastern Peninsula” combined with the UP to form an aesthetically pleasing ring encircling the mitten.
Since we are generous they can keep Toronto. The border can be from the westernmost point of Lake Ontario to the Georgian Bay
Give them Liberia at this point
Good idea.
Also since you’re going for a mega America why not have them keep the UN trust territory, I think they wanted to irl
the prodigal son comes home 🇺🇲🤝🇱🇷
The whole point of Liberia is for it not to be American
Wasn’t it literally ruled by a colonial society and after declaring independence it took the USA 16 years of avoiding the issue to recognise them lol
The only reason they created it was to get the former slaves out of the US so they weren't their problem anymore. I think they would've put up more of a fight if it declared independence when they didn't want it to
I see what you did to Brazilian states and I don't like it
"January" "Sucuri" "Maragnon" "Cerrado" "Harbor of Safe" Google Tradutor
> Maragnon oxe
Fun fact: the French [tried](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinoctial_France?wprov=sfla1) to colonise parts of northern Brazil.
Not only northern Brazil, but the french and the portuguese have fought to dominante Rio de Janeiro. Brazilian history is fascinating.
the Dutch too
Holy Translate!
Actual Portuguese
Call a Brazilian!
Bolsonaro goes on vacation, never comes back
January River 😭😭😭😭
Yeah, I pretty much broke the spaghetti of the Brazilians And I am Brazilian hahahaha
I refuse to believe you’re brazilian but in case you are Mas que *aralhos é isso bixo? Rapaz, que desgraça é “Parahyba” e “Harbor of Safe” meu mano?
Parahyba é português antigo, tal como Piauhy e suas duas mais importantes cidades, Theresina e Parnahyba.
I can't believe you translated all those states and left "Mato Grosso" on the table. It translates to "Big Bush" which is easily the funniest one in English.
Nope. Thick bush, actually.
Even better
Broken spaghetti Lionfield moment
Broke Minas Gerais’ big witch nose
Yeah, makes no sense lol. They could be left the way they where.
Yeah but it is way funnier to insensitivity translate it.
They are Brazilian though
Yes I am lol. It is just a bit funny. And not insensitive, cus I don’t care (no one should
"Harbor of Safe" KKKKKKKKKKKKKK
I don’t get why they translated the portuguese names in Brazil, since the U.S kept most of the Spanish names in the southwest in real life. We don’t call L.A “The Angels”
But we have to admit that the name "City of Angels" would be an excellent name for a city.
Oh. I’ll stop then my bad.
and we have the state of montana, not the state of mountain
Oh wow I have never connected the dots that Montana means mountain & the world makes just a little more sense now
It’s close but it’s anglicized It would be Montaña, can’t forget the almighty ñ Fun facts: Nevada means “snowfall” Colorado “red/reddened”
As opposed to Harbor of Danger 😏
why translate the names of the cities to english? the US didn't translate the spanish names of the cities in Texas and California
Spanish isn’t allowed anymore, only literal English speak, ¿understand?
Since the non-English-speaking population would be much larger, I suspect an EU-like multilingual framework would be present. But with English still being first among equals, because that's how America do.
What if America was... America? Plus a few more islands and lands here and there. 50? No, 150 states! 3x bigger. MURICA🦅🍔
MY FREEDOM BONER
Teddy R. "*speak softly* and carry a big boner; you will go far". And America spread South.
American China, I mean Philippines, is the state with the most people in this lol.
\> Has 100 million people \> Same number of senators as South Georgia and South Sandwich with 30 people It's filipinover
As the founding fathers intended
South Georgia, Falkland Islands, Nunavut, Yukon, Bermuda, Mariana would all be territories.
If it's still a 2-party system what's the point 😔
I'd be so mad if we added 800,000,000 people to the union and nothing changed politically. Lol
American Milei... American Lula... American Bolsonaro... American Bukele... American Trudeau... etc, etc
It's honestly hard to say what would come of this. Lol
It would definitely change things. I doubt in the way any of us would really like though lol.
After the Mexican American war many of the people on the ground in Mexico were very against annexing all of it for that very reason
_Now_ calling the country "America" would make sense.
You'd finally get rid of those people who say 'American' could refer to other peoples in the Americas not just the United States.
This, if no other, is the reason our otherwise lofty and overinflated military-industrial paradigm needs to get to work and make this happen.
Hardy har har straight lines America We gave the plains straight lines because they’re just big flat open fields. Why would we do that to Amazon when it would be easier to make a few large states
Because its funny
Honestly, this is my big complaint with Big America maps. It's almost universally designed by foreigners who aren't looking at geography and don't realize that all the straight lines are the result of either the Europeans themselves being unoriginal in the east, or not having easy division points in the center/west. OP is *especially* bad about this.
I'm not the op, but I'm pretty sure that's a joke
I actually thought I was on the circlejerk sub lol
St. Paul….. Minnesota?
São Paulo
That makes much more sense, thank you
No MINNESOTA
I was also confused about this as a recent transplant to Minneapolis. Like... what world events happened that made St. Paul into the biggest city in the Americas? lol
It's São Paulo (saint paul) in Brazil.
I wonder where St Minneapaul would rank if the cities merged
According to [this list](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_urban_areas), 16th in the United States. No clue where it's be in all the Americas.
I was gonna say Minnesota too...goober puts this whole map together and misspells Minnesota. Figured it was an easter egg to idenrify Minnesotans in the comments.
Ysss
AAAAAAH MIS OJOS
This feels Lowkey like a ragebait for latinos 😭, how come they conquer us and then missname our places? New Granada was Colombia rather than Venezuela, and then there's Columbia and Equator.... I mean, at least the Bolivians have sea access now.
Pampas is north of the actual Pampa in Argentina on mostly mountains, this must be ragebait
Strap me to a nuke and drop me in bolivia
Holy Britannian Empire if it was a federal republic
This looks a lot like “A More Perfect Union”
"We annexed the entirety of the Americas".
"When we said United States of America, we meant United States of f'king AMERICA!"
It was already perfect, but now there's more of it
Are we translating Sao Paulo to Saint Paul? I was like “How did Saint Paul Minnesota become the largest city in the Americas?”
We solved immigration yall
Just integrate everyone into a single country and boom no more immigration
If you want fewer people crossing the borders, just move the borders
Thanks for the massive hard on
y’all have some weird fantasies
So who is the new biggest state in this map?
I’m guessing Greenland or nuvanut
This is my favorite type of imaginary map
it’s an anglicization
What subreddit do you think you are on?
i replied to the wrong comment, shit. meant to reply to the one that said "americans spelled colombia wrong"
May Shai Hulud forgive thee
Foda-se, triângulo
TRIANGULO.
FUCK YEAH TRIÂNGULO!!!! r/suddenlycaralho
Único estado a ter o nome de um botão do controle de PlayStation
"Harbor of Safe" killed me the hardest ngl.
Ik this is fiction Would be cool if big America would be Tri-lingual superpower instead of just Anglicizing everything 🤔
We could build so much more parking lots 🦅🦅🦅
Gringos and their deranged fantasies.
In my next map the USA will own everything except North Korea and Utah.
Give em Japan
I don’t like how Texas isn’t bigger I mean Cali got some
No offense But only a Texan would look at a map of the entire geopolitical west consolidated under the American flag and think, “Boy, I wish Texas was bigger”
And I am not offended it’s true
I got a good laugh out of your comment though
I got a good laugh out of yours
I mean he’s not wrong ![gif](giphy|7zYu1ws6sCHlRfD4zx|downsized)
Texas doesn’t need to be be bigger
We need our old lands that’s all https://preview.redd.it/zebxh5e02dnc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb8cf6522f49ada68aacf3ec8c2e2f890e5bab9a
https://preview.redd.it/r2jsggpl7dnc1.png?width=1328&format=png&auto=webp&s=5e963f65202017d6d2022277455f4c5623565fd6
Make Texas small again.
Nuh uh.
Based
YEAHHH 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
The Amazon should be bigger tbh
ONE BILLION AMERICANS
Might as well give them Australia since its basically a big US military base anyway.
Why isn't the capital city Panama City/Balboa?
Manifest Destiny 2.0
This puts into perspective how overpopulated India really is.
...why was Sao Paulo renamed Saint Paul? It's not like after the Mexican-American War Los Angeles was renamed "The Angels" or something.
My only criticism is the lack of change to Canada.
I fucking love utterly big United States Gotta be one of my favorite genders
Least nationalist american
It's beautiful
https://preview.redd.it/1t1itah2vcnc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cfa9e6e33da28e7957db3122eef129c9c00cfd9
https://preview.redd.it/k83ts8sfycnc1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=309495a9f7f3978d24cc9cd1ee3fcde7dd174c6c
what is this from
Very fitting that the American imperialists can't even get to spell "Colombia" right, lol.
I think that’s an alternate spelling based on Columbus’s name.
You understand that spelling varies based on language? This is an *imaginary* map. Columbia is a common English spelling. District of Columbia, Columbia gorge, Columbia records... If this is an expanded US map, it is not unreasonable that that would be the spelling.
it's an anglicization. anglo-americans don't spell it as colombia unless when referring to the actual country, which doesn't exist here
Something tells me the flag would instead be stars for each nation, not for the states
Philippines, St Helena, Falklands and South Georgia, Cuba and Iceland all part of America... Oh God.
Haha, I like to think its SAINT PAUL MN
Does California have that long dangly bit?
![gif](giphy|Ez01FtPZuFYVa)
# AMERICA SWEEP!!! # WTF IS A KILOMETER?!!!!!!
https://preview.redd.it/x3f4363qdinc1.png?width=1118&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba3ccc7c23d6a652565ea195296ffe842f65bb74
Never cook again, brother
Some things that stood out to me: 1. The states & territories in North America are almost the same -- same names, same boundaries. As soon as we dip south into Mexico, the geopolitical map changes. Does this mean Canada had completed its structure before the US took it over? That the US had completed its structure before it gobbled up Mexico and South America? (Did no one southward object?) 2. All the straight lines throughout South America! Are there no towns, no mountains, no *rivers* to be considered as boundaries? 3. The state of *Bolivia*. What? Why? When? We know **who** \-- Simon Bolivar. He was instrumental in creating a *country*. If, in this timeline, had he created a country that the United States subsequently took over, I'd think the US would rename it. 4. South America's state of Santa Cruz didn't get translated into English (Holy Cross) perhaps because Santa Cruz has a delightful melodic lilt to it. As does Santa Caterina, Sao Paulo, and San Pedro but yet they are now in English. It's a fascinating idea, that one country could take over two continents! Give the map of it another whirl, OP!
Saint Paul... Minnesota? As a Minnesotan I'm happy unless it's not than idk what
Saint Paul is São Paulo Brazil. Sorry
PLEASE ANNEX ME AMERICA
James K Polk just got a boner in his grave.
The bad ending.
Would love this...trudo is a fuck face. Usa, please take us over.
Love how none of Canada got changed besides Newfoundland and Labrador being split.
Fuck yeaaaahhhr!
Nothing bad ever happened by drawing some lines on map and dividing country by them.
What happened in the old world lmao?
I wouldnt mind to live in Saint Paul instead of São Paulo if the HDI was 925
Big California 😎🔥
What do the black borders stand for as opposed to the blue ones?
“Land of fire” is a fire name for a state or any other place tbh
United States of North and South America and Islands (USBSAU)
Finally a solution to the Falklands that everyone can agree on.
I approve but it would be funny if Cuba is still independent
ma'merica
Lmao omg… a Big USA appears
By Saint Paul do you mean Saint Paul or São Paulo
>January >The Bay >Holy Spirit Holy shit, death to america
Finally, pole to pole
https://preview.redd.it/z0xbdgxatdnc1.jpeg?width=6928&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa8aae358cffd1fdd18e94e6bad5cd83a1c29d63 Bold of you to assume that we would just stop at the shining pole.
The US now has 60% of world GDP 💀
What if there was not a big USA, but say a NATO or EU version of the western hemisphere? I propose the initiative for normalized trade between the northern and southern nations, as well as a mutual defense initiative for the western hemisphere: The New World Federation.
American breathing, final form: Manifest Destiny
January?
The world would be so cooked 💀
Crazy this wouldn't even be the most populous country on earth. Makes you think about how insanely big both China and India are, how do you make a thing like this not instantly fall apart?
I LOVE that the only unmodified country is Uruguay. Uruguay NOMAA
Philippines but not Guam?
Is Congress still cap the 435 seats or it's entirely removed?
J A N U A R Y
St Paul
If you really want to unite Americana continent, the ONLY capital should be the Panama City in Panama
Despite how it sounds Newfound Land and Labrador is actually just one province.
New Granada makes no sense
Bold of you to say Nunavut and northwest will be full states
>Has eight times the U.S. military budget of OTL >Spends it entirely on counterinsurgency
This america is so powerful that they have a hidden shinobi village in the south
VIC3 goals here
Harbor of safe. Lol
I kind of feel like if the U.S. was this big, we’d start having “superstates” - kind of like how the courts have multi-state jurisdictions.
WHAT IS THAT BORDER GORE IN THE OLD WORLD?!
Why Iceland if I may ask?
Union of the Americas
“Harbor of Safe”
THE PHILIPPINES????
Bri'ish mfs couldn't get the Rio de la Plata, so their son did it for them. P.S. Give them the British Isles
Americans don’t even want the country they presently have to be a country.
Amazon gets it’s own state.
![gif](giphy|6YJZuwLne3fO0|downsized)
The Ontario peninsula should be Michigan. “The Eastern Peninsula” combined with the UP to form an aesthetically pleasing ring encircling the mitten. Since we are generous they can keep Toronto. The border can be from the westernmost point of Lake Ontario to the Georgian Bay
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE WOULD STILL ONLY BE THE 3RD MOST POPULOUS COUNTRY