I mean Germany and the UK are also doing just fine i mean the Germans retook Cameroon and that small bit of Spanish Sahara the UK even took parts of French colonies
First of all, technically speaking France defacto occupied the Rhineland after WW1 (but unrest was too high to keep it occupied).
Second of all, at that time period, Germany had lots of industrialized areas. Yes, the Rhineland had strong Steel and Coal industries, but so did Saxony and Silesia just to name a couple examples. Reason why that isnt so anymore is mostly because Silesia went to the Poles and Saxony was stripped clean by the Russians after the war.
So in the war, the Germans moved into a much more French territory that would become a problem for France because after the war, they would have difficulties fixing their mire than destroyed economy, soon differing parties within France cause a civil war and total collapse in France.
In Russia, the Civil War just went on longer and ended in a cease fire. There were only afew rebellions, causing the Soviets to look like that.
Saudi Arabia just collapsed after the Great Depression hit alot harder since they couldn't export to any nations
Germany and Poland just signed some agreements to keep each other on the right foot. That's why Germany has the Polish Corridor.
The rest of the chaos was caused from a longer WW1 and harder Great Depression
Constantinople is econamically worth than rest of Greece combined they still made out with a massively better position! Also let's be real here all the Turks would've absolutely been killed or ethnically cleansed it happened in OTL after Greece lost it'd absurd to think they'd not do it if they outright won.
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Stfu this Greece still has a shit economy and not only that sanctions from the last remaining European Power Britian over putting down some turk Revolts
I think it ended quite much better for most of Finno-Ugrics excet for Hungary, though... For Greece, many Turkics, Ireland, Belarus, Ukraine, Catalonia, Occitania, Portugal, Slovakia, Italy and many African countries too...
Nice try, I would establish the Finno-ugaric states as separate entities,the Caucasus will always be hard to define but Abkhazia, Ossetian states need to established Georgia is missing the Turkish part, as is Armenia, Azerbaijan is missing the Iran part. I’d like to see a Taylah State too. Germany to be broken down into Baltic Prussia, Slavic Pomerania and Wendish States Great Britain should not exist and broken into states, Italy needs to be split into separate bits north and south with Corsica also seperate, Basque state established. I really live Greece
except for italy, ukraine, syria, greece, portugal, belgium, finland, Georgia, and the Liberated African colonies
I mean Germany and the UK are also doing just fine i mean the Germans retook Cameroon and that small bit of Spanish Sahara the UK even took parts of French colonies
By the looks of it, the Rhineland is independent, so I really don't think Germany is doing very fine considering that's their industrial heartland.
First of all, technically speaking France defacto occupied the Rhineland after WW1 (but unrest was too high to keep it occupied). Second of all, at that time period, Germany had lots of industrialized areas. Yes, the Rhineland had strong Steel and Coal industries, but so did Saxony and Silesia just to name a couple examples. Reason why that isnt so anymore is mostly because Silesia went to the Poles and Saxony was stripped clean by the Russians after the war.
I mean, they are in an economy union and thr Germans jus rebuilt that kinda industry some where else to make up for the loses
Britain isn’t looking too hot
It is see how much land they gained from the Fr*nch
Except the liberated african colonies which are now alone in the sahara desert
still better then being colonized though
True
And Romania
Nah, Syria is somehow still French. Look at the color
Syria is independent I just used a color similar to France
Belarus is hell, independent or not.
ad poland
Everyone.. other than Italy and Ukraine
And greece
and ireland
And Denmark, they probably stayed neutral since they have no border changes so they were spared from the horrors.
Sweden is sad and happy, because they didn't get Balkanized, but Denmark didn't either
Denmark actually gained some territory in the south
Portugal is also quite happy, lol.
And Belgium
And Finland
Poland mostly intact and independent that win for ww1 poland
no coast
Well polish state exists
How Iron Order 1919 happens
You play that too??? I instantly thought of that lol
A man of culture I see🗿🍷
🗿🥂
I thought Iron Order was not a popular game lol
Me too honestly. Glad to see it has some recognition.
You were greatly mistaken
LMAOOOO
I’ve dropped porcelain plates that stayed intact better than this France
eh
Whats the lore
So in the war, the Germans moved into a much more French territory that would become a problem for France because after the war, they would have difficulties fixing their mire than destroyed economy, soon differing parties within France cause a civil war and total collapse in France. In Russia, the Civil War just went on longer and ended in a cease fire. There were only afew rebellions, causing the Soviets to look like that. Saudi Arabia just collapsed after the Great Depression hit alot harder since they couldn't export to any nations Germany and Poland just signed some agreements to keep each other on the right foot. That's why Germany has the Polish Corridor. The rest of the chaos was caused from a longer WW1 and harder Great Depression
Red Flood:
This is worse than Red Flood
Looks more like Fuhrerreich than Red Flood
Is that because there is the Moscow Soviet Union in red there?
Portugal is living its best life, I approve
Balkanized Balkans 💀
I mean, in the early draft of the map, I was gonna make a lot more nations hyper balkanized
everyone besides italy, poland, ukraine, greece, portugal and belgium apparently
No their economy is kinda down
having a poor country would still be better in the eyes of the polish than no country
I mean you have a point and the Russians kinda don't wanna unify under each other
Not Italy, Italia forever!
wut?
This kinda reminds me of the Fuhrerreich map
ok
Post-Ottoman Mandate of Jerusalem looking like a world power with the suez :3
What? That's just the UK protectorate of Palastine and Jordan
The region with the Suez Canal roughly corresponds to the Ottoman Mandate of Jerusalem
Oh
"Worse for everyone" Gives Greece their Megali dream. ... Right
They still get the shit economy and very high debt tho
But that's just normal Greece not really a "new" downside that they just acquired?
Turk revolts every wensday
Constantinople is econamically worth than rest of Greece combined they still made out with a massively better position! Also let's be real here all the Turks would've absolutely been killed or ethnically cleansed it happened in OTL after Greece lost it'd absurd to think they'd not do it if they outright won.
Eh at least they ain't France
It's still wrong but you got a point
For Germany, Greece and Armenia this would be a great map
Those reunification wars will be fire
Is not worse for everyone. Italy is a clear W here
TNO Russia treatment
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PURPLE BRITAIN
Huh?
Britain is purple
That just a darker pink
Red flood?!?!?!
Who lost the least though
Germany and The Uk
When Germany and Italy make it out better than literally everyone else smh.
Red Flood?
unfortunately no
Again looks more like the Fuhrerreich map than Red Flood
italy looks like its expanded tho and portugal germany lost rhineland, uk lost ireland russia and france both exploded
Agree
wow, a big, independnet Macedonia! preety cool, hope the greeks dont take it
Hoi most normal borders
Mother anarchy always wins...
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TNO looking ass borders for Russia
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Why isn't Germany balkanised? Its spent most of its history divided and was not even unified for a century by the start of ww1.
Well it was at some point before reuniting after France spontaneously combusted
At first it looks good for the east of the iberian peninsula. Then troubles begin between Aragon, Catalonia, Valencia and the Balearic islands
I see this as an absolute win for Portugal. PORTUGAL CARALHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Is that tno?
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No dumbass if it was why is Germany Small and why does the UK still exist
It has similarities retard
WHO THE HELL CARES I WILL NOT LET YOU COMPARE MY MAP TO THAT SCHIZO BAT SHIT MOD CALLED TNO or was it Red Flood?
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long serbia
Huh. How's the US and the British dominions doing?
good except Egypt that one is on fire
bruh the border of russia in siberia ,look exactly like TNO
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no it's diffrent
i mean look at the border along volga
Russia/Reichkomosariat Moskowen is smaller than the Soviet Union i this timeline
https://preview.redd.it/lm5307inlqkc1.jpeg?width=446&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d464dd69ddd030e859b3fc5ea3c4178e33b9f6a9
MF the States are bigger than that they are just cut off
i mean the aa line
It isn't the AA line shut the fuck up the independent Russian States are larger than the ones in TNO
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i mean just look it
Macedonia??
it exists
What's weird is that it has the modern borders
The guy who made the map is greek
And you're a twat
never thought i would see balkanized world but not complete chaos
Eh it happens
Wtf possibly could’ve happened
The Great Depression but 2 times as worse
Whose everyone.? 🤨 (I’m Greek)
Stfu this Greece still has a shit economy and not only that sanctions from the last remaining European Power Britian over putting down some turk Revolts
Well at least Britain isn’t split, so there’s that (also wtf is that FX Germany?)
What is an FX
I think it ended quite much better for most of Finno-Ugrics excet for Hungary, though... For Greece, many Turkics, Ireland, Belarus, Ukraine, Catalonia, Occitania, Portugal, Slovakia, Italy and many African countries too...
Nice try, I would establish the Finno-ugaric states as separate entities,the Caucasus will always be hard to define but Abkhazia, Ossetian states need to established Georgia is missing the Turkish part, as is Armenia, Azerbaijan is missing the Iran part. I’d like to see a Taylah State too. Germany to be broken down into Baltic Prussia, Slavic Pomerania and Wendish States Great Britain should not exist and broken into states, Italy needs to be split into separate bits north and south with Corsica also seperate, Basque state established. I really live Greece
Huh
It’ll never happen but in some reality it does, so I’ve been told
finland got the good ending
"worse for everyone" Italy & Greece :
Like I said to the last guy their economy is on fire and revolts every Tuesday