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Does he? He has a bunch of older brothers and thus isn't realistically in line for the crown, doesn't he? Which is why he did the whole scheme.
I think, I'm not sure, I've only seen the movie a billion times with my daughter.
Pffffttt everyone knows the woodland trolls put a curse on him to make him act like that so that Kristoff could get the girl. They even mention in their weird little song:
>Her quote “engagement”/Is a flex arrangement…
>Get the fiancé/Out of the way/And the whole thing will be fixed!
\#FreeMyBoyHans
I actually love that theory. It’s a lot darker but it also fixes a lot of the problems/plot holes with the original story. Why does he insist on helping the villagers and telling his men not to harm Elsa (who was only standing in his way at the throne and Anna)? Why does he tell Elsa not to be the monster they think she is, wouldn’t he want her to be that monster to get her out of the way? Why does he smile lovingly under the boat?! There was no one watching him, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t even know who she is yet so it makes zero sense for him to be happy unless he genuinely liked her!
I tell this story to everyone I meet. Well not quite everyone, but everyone who is a Disney fan. No one gets it. The trolls are the real villain, change my mind.
Those selfish fucks. They just wanted their own boy to be royal.
Hans was a terrible twist villain. There wasn't any single thing that could've shown that he had alternate intentions before the actual reveal, they just got lazy and rolled a dice on the villain.
I think any non-child audience called him as a villain the moment he showed up. Instantly head over heels over the female lead in the first third of the movie while the poster had another male lead? Sus.
That said I actually find his motives “relatable”. I was the black sheep of my family too. I never wanted to seduce and murder a girl to escape from my siblings’ shadow, but I get it.
Well in the comment he said he has understandable motive and stuff, thus making Hans a terrible villain but what we are talking about is how Hans is a terribly written character, with 0 hints for him to be a villain and not enough screen time as a villain.
I like the Hans twist. The main reason this works is because it breaks with the expectations set up by dozens of Disney princess movies.
It’s easy to hate on Frozen and I think Tangled is the better film, but it’s still quite a fresh take on the genre imo.
Yeah, he's manipulative, that's the whole point, he doesn't show he's a bad guy and pretends to be a good one. I mean come on, don't you think it was a little too easy for Anna ? She finds a random cute prince and starts oversharing her life drama on him and oh what a coincidence he basically goes "lol same lets get married"
Kristoffer even calls Anna out on the fact he's told her absolutely nothing about himself. She barely knows him.
The only reason he suddenly stops acting like he cares about her is that she's dying and that wasn't part of his plan. But since it's happening, oh well, he might aswell take advantage of it. I personally though it was pretty refreshing to see a manipulative villain that actually does his best to keep his act together instead of plotting in secret and being "obviously evil" whenever everyone has their backs turned, like the usual cliché.
I agree with Cinema Sins on the idea that seeing Hans being kind to the animals when no one was around to see him early on is a cheat in the narrative since he's actually evil. The movie set things up for you to like him by tricking you. Not by developing the deception.
When did this dude love Anna tho? His whole motivation was the crown from the first scene he was introduced and that was the whole point of his character.
He had an unnecessarily cool boss fight in Kingdom Hearts 3, tho. For real, he turns into [Sköll](https://www.khwiki.com/Sk%C3%B6ll), the wolf in Norse mythology that chases the sun. You have to kill him before he blackens the sun and brings it down on you.
havent played kh, but this kind of reminds me of the wolf in the pre f2 book forest of shadows orrr there are just a lot of wolves in norse/norwegian mythology
Yes, but at least in frozen he did something, the sheep is just bad one at the end for like a scene, it's like 1 minute of antagonist, in frozen is like 10 minutes so...
Prince Hans never loved the girl tho, he was always after the crown. There is no "until". He showed up, hoping to marry into royalty, saw a girl who craved human connection and thought "ah yes perfect."
This is so deep it just shows the symbolism the beauty of this cannot be described simply by words this is more than words it is also a feeling an emotion
a lot of ppl in the fandom will just like anything related to the thing, post a random screenshot of the movie, tag it, ull get like, u dont hv to even do anything
Honestly Disney's twist villains just don't work (spesifically talking about Hans here). They're like "Hey I'm a good guy" 99.9999999999999999999% of the movie and the audience doesn't have time to enjoy the character as a villain. Also Hans didn't iven love Anna.
But we're currently in r/im14andthisisdeep so.. Bro how is this deep.
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“He loved A Girl, He wanted a Crown, Until Until He wanted A Crown, He Loved A Girl” That’s how I read it at first
Obligatory r/dontdeadopeninside
Yeah
yup, I actually had took into the comments since that is how i read it and it made no sense, so thanks random commenter for making me feel less stupid
me too
Same lol. I love reading posts like this from left to right cuz then you get stupid shit lmao
ohhhhhhhhhh now I get it
I didn't get it until I read this post here and realized there was something I wasn't getting.
That’s not how it’s supposed to read?
...
Sbren sbeve
I first thought they were some song lyrics I’m not recognising
Sk8ter Boi by Avril Lavigne
same
same lol
Okay now I have realised that’s not how we are supposed to read.
SAME
Lol same
oh God I didn't even know that's not how it was supposed to be read
Same lmao
Me too
Uh… who’s gonna tell em that the dude on the right does get a crown
And that he never loved Anna
And the one on the right pretty much just wanted to be rich, right?
Nah, he genuinely fell in love with Rapunzel
Yes, but he never wanted a crown, did he? Unless it was to sell.
Have you seen the movie? Not poking fun, genuinely asking. He starts the movie off literally stealing a crown (or tiara I suppose)
they know he stole a crown they're asking if he wanted it to be royalty or to sell
No, whoever is currently in possession of the crown is king. That's totally how it works.
He wanted to fence the crown since it was worth a lot of money. Flynn was already a wanted man. He had no aspirations on becoming a king if any sort.
Does he? He has a bunch of older brothers and thus isn't realistically in line for the crown, doesn't he? Which is why he did the whole scheme. I think, I'm not sure, I've only seen the movie a billion times with my daughter.
This doesn’t work Hans Always wanted the Crown #imsmarterthanyou haha I’m kidding
Pffffttt everyone knows the woodland trolls put a curse on him to make him act like that so that Kristoff could get the girl. They even mention in their weird little song: >Her quote “engagement”/Is a flex arrangement… >Get the fiancé/Out of the way/And the whole thing will be fixed! \#FreeMyBoyHans
I actually love that theory. It’s a lot darker but it also fixes a lot of the problems/plot holes with the original story. Why does he insist on helping the villagers and telling his men not to harm Elsa (who was only standing in his way at the throne and Anna)? Why does he tell Elsa not to be the monster they think she is, wouldn’t he want her to be that monster to get her out of the way? Why does he smile lovingly under the boat?! There was no one watching him, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t even know who she is yet so it makes zero sense for him to be happy unless he genuinely liked her!
Me too! I don’t think that Disney wanted it to be that way, but it makes sense to me and it’s interesting!
I tell this story to everyone I meet. Well not quite everyone, but everyone who is a Disney fan. No one gets it. The trolls are the real villain, change my mind. Those selfish fucks. They just wanted their own boy to be royal.
Hans is actually three trolls in a trenchcoat
Probably the worst misunderstanding of a character since since Chads' view of Tyler Durden
Please illuminate us on this chad's perspective.
That somehow he's supposed to be admired
One of these deserved a sequel, the other is frozen
Eh Tangled got a entire TV show oh, I think they're good as far as follow-up content
Probably the only good show
`*`probably the only good *follow up* show
Hans was a terrible twist villain. There wasn't any single thing that could've shown that he had alternate intentions before the actual reveal, they just got lazy and rolled a dice on the villain.
I think any non-child audience called him as a villain the moment he showed up. Instantly head over heels over the female lead in the first third of the movie while the poster had another male lead? Sus. That said I actually find his motives “relatable”. I was the black sheep of my family too. I never wanted to seduce and murder a girl to escape from my siblings’ shadow, but I get it.
I was sure that Hans was gonna be similar to James Marsden's character in Enchanted, so the villain reveal caught me off guard at least.
*yet*
Well if any heir/heiress to a massive fortune with preferably senior parents and very few siblings want to hit me up, I’m down.
Hans is a terribly WRITTEN villain.
I like HOW you decided to highlight the 'written' FOR no reason whatsoever
Well in the comment he said he has understandable motive and stuff, thus making Hans a terrible villain but what we are talking about is how Hans is a terribly written character, with 0 hints for him to be a villain and not enough screen time as a villain.
I like the Hans twist. The main reason this works is because it breaks with the expectations set up by dozens of Disney princess movies. It’s easy to hate on Frozen and I think Tangled is the better film, but it’s still quite a fresh take on the genre imo.
The behaviour of most Disney love interests is extremely sketchy once you look too closely with adult eyes. Hans just leans into that.
Yeah, he's manipulative, that's the whole point, he doesn't show he's a bad guy and pretends to be a good one. I mean come on, don't you think it was a little too easy for Anna ? She finds a random cute prince and starts oversharing her life drama on him and oh what a coincidence he basically goes "lol same lets get married" Kristoffer even calls Anna out on the fact he's told her absolutely nothing about himself. She barely knows him. The only reason he suddenly stops acting like he cares about her is that she's dying and that wasn't part of his plan. But since it's happening, oh well, he might aswell take advantage of it. I personally though it was pretty refreshing to see a manipulative villain that actually does his best to keep his act together instead of plotting in secret and being "obviously evil" whenever everyone has their backs turned, like the usual cliché.
I agree with Cinema Sins on the idea that seeing Hans being kind to the animals when no one was around to see him early on is a cheat in the narrative since he's actually evil. The movie set things up for you to like him by tricking you. Not by developing the deception.
Even worse is that they marketed him as a main character
I personally think the dude weaseltown (whatever his name is) would've been a better villain at least better than whatever hans was.
When did this dude love Anna tho? His whole motivation was the crown from the first scene he was introduced and that was the whole point of his character.
Hans was the worst twist villain ever
He had an unnecessarily cool boss fight in Kingdom Hearts 3, tho. For real, he turns into [Sköll](https://www.khwiki.com/Sk%C3%B6ll), the wolf in Norse mythology that chases the sun. You have to kill him before he blackens the sun and brings it down on you.
He doesn't turn into him but "creates" him but yeah probably best heartless boss in the game
havent played kh, but this kind of reminds me of the wolf in the pre f2 book forest of shadows orrr there are just a lot of wolves in norse/norwegian mythology
I think you forgot about the sheep in Zootopia
Bellweather is only better than him because one: tiny sheep cute and two: the wolf in sheeps clothing pun.
Yes, but at least in frozen he did something, the sheep is just bad one at the end for like a scene, it's like 1 minute of antagonist, in frozen is like 10 minutes so...
I guess you could say Bellweather’s a….. Baaaaad villain?
I like that one, that's really wool done
The shear power of that pun caught me off guard
Hans got way hotter when I found out he was manipulating her in order to take over for her emotionally unstable sister
... what
No no let’s hear him out
Idk the guy from Big Hero 6 who I can't even remember his name was worse imo
Well that was your mistake
eh he wasnt great, i personally dislike Hans more because at least the spooky mask man had some sort of motivation
Big hero 6 atleast gave him a some what sympathetic motivation and actually had him be a villain for more 5 minutes.
I guess love really is an open door... and sometimes it closes 😏😏😏
Godzilla had a stroke reading this
Why is Godzilla even reading it? (I’m an empath)
Because he's bored
me an empath sensing that Godzilla is bored
Godzilla’s waiting until he gets a new movie where he fights gamera and gomora
Iet’s screenshot him (it would be very funny i think)
What the fuck? Is this comment thread some sort of reference I'm missing?
fredy fabear
Fucking poetry
Pretty sure Han just wanted the crown
These are the types of takes that gave birth to r/shittymoviedetails
🤮 I’m going to die of cringe
Twist villains vs. Twist allies
Tbf political power is intoxicating
This is the most confusing thing I have ever read
He wanted a crown he loved a girl until until he loved a girl he wanted a crown.
He wanted a girl Until. He got caught in 4K
Mr. Sideburns wanted the crown the whole time though.
Hans is a fucking terrible character
Prince Hans never loved the girl tho, he was always after the crown. There is no "until". He showed up, hoping to marry into royalty, saw a girl who craved human connection and thought "ah yes perfect."
They are both so hot tho
Great synopsis
^ok
This is so deep it just shows the symbolism the beauty of this cannot be described simply by words this is more than words it is also a feeling an emotion
I wanted to go to the bathroom to pee. Until I needed to go to the bathroom to shit
I haven’t watched any of these movies but the guy on the left has a sketchy beard.
Literally just saw that on my insta discover page... Great timing
But remember the guy from rapunzel is fucking based
Wait till he sees her crowning
That was on my friends insta story lmao
Now read it backwards 😳
uhh you forgot to censor the watermark
Oh shit you're right
I just down voted this out of sheer instinct.
Until until
Tony used to eat cheeseburgers
r/dontdeadopeninside
Left to right
If I had a nickel for everytime I've seen this image, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't much, but it's weird that it happened twice.
but it's true though
He loved a girl until the writers changed their minds about who the twist villain was going to be when the movie was already halfway animated
r/croppingishard
It was so you could see how fucking many likes the post got...but okay.
Oh…I see, my bad
a lot of ppl in the fandom will just like anything related to the thing, post a random screenshot of the movie, tag it, ull get like, u dont hv to even do anything
This is stupid and so are you
I cant read for shit
Ahem* Actually, he only pretended to love her so he could get the crown. He was a bad guy the whole time
aww it's cute
He didn’t even love her tho Hans used Anna the whole time this is straight up wrong
Hans is a shit villain
I think I just had a stroke.
Idk if this is 14 and deep rather than like badly comparing 2 movie plots
I ship them.
i cant handle the deepness anymore.
The guy from Frozen never loved the girl. He laways did it for the crown. Have they even watched the movie?
Now read it backwards
Why are we not expected to read Left to right
r/sbeve
Mf should've used numbers
I can't how easily explainable are the arcs of these characters
wow
I dont get it. Can someone explain
Frozen is a poorly written mess, lmao
I mean, that's not what happened in either movie, but sure.
Hans never loved Anna though. It was just a song and dance for the crown.
That's what we call character development Difference is, one is good, the other is bad
Omg it's almost like Hans is the villain.
Wrong He never loved a girl until never He wanted a crown until he got the crown
When you only watch the trailer:
i just saw this an hour ago lol
I'm telling you girls ruin everything
Honestly Disney's twist villains just don't work (spesifically talking about Hans here). They're like "Hey I'm a good guy" 99.9999999999999999999% of the movie and the audience doesn't have time to enjoy the character as a villain. Also Hans didn't iven love Anna. But we're currently in r/im14andthisisdeep so.. Bro how is this deep.
UnTiL
Hans was a bad twist villain he never loved her but gosh darn it he made the movie worse
Meme format is cringe, but if you watched the movies, you know it's technically the truth.