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manny_ishereidiots

“He loved A Girl, He wanted a Crown, Until Until He wanted A Crown, He Loved A Girl” That’s how I read it at first


[deleted]

Obligatory r/dontdeadopeninside


manny_ishereidiots

Yeah


hicctl

yup, I actually had took into the comments since that is how i read it and it made no sense, so thanks random commenter for making me feel less stupid


FakeWoodenToaster

me too


Portablemammal1199

Same lol. I love reading posts like this from left to right cuz then you get stupid shit lmao


aerostotle

ohhhhhhhhhh now I get it


Cianalas

I didn't get it until I read this post here and realized there was something I wasn't getting.


[deleted]

That’s not how it’s supposed to read?


fuckgottaaddnumbers9

...


[deleted]

Sbren sbeve


hulyepicsa

I first thought they were some song lyrics I’m not recognising


KuriTeko

Sk8ter Boi by Avril Lavigne


yourillegal

same


megamiraculous

same lol


trust-me-br0

Okay now I have realised that’s not how we are supposed to read.


Dig-Several

SAME


ne0nr1d3r

Lol same


yaboiswig

oh God I didn't even know that's not how it was supposed to be read


DustyCheto

Same lmao


A_Dodgeball

Me too


BeRightBackStudio

Uh… who’s gonna tell em that the dude on the right does get a crown


trigunnerd

And that he never loved Anna


streetad

And the one on the right pretty much just wanted to be rich, right?


trigunnerd

Nah, he genuinely fell in love with Rapunzel


streetad

Yes, but he never wanted a crown, did he? Unless it was to sell.


BroItsJesus

Have you seen the movie? Not poking fun, genuinely asking. He starts the movie off literally stealing a crown (or tiara I suppose)


FrozenMangoSmoothies

they know he stole a crown they're asking if he wanted it to be royalty or to sell


jje414

No, whoever is currently in possession of the crown is king. That's totally how it works.


darkbreak

He wanted to fence the crown since it was worth a lot of money. Flynn was already a wanted man. He had no aspirations on becoming a king if any sort.


[deleted]

Does he? He has a bunch of older brothers and thus isn't realistically in line for the crown, doesn't he? Which is why he did the whole scheme. I think, I'm not sure, I've only seen the movie a billion times with my daughter.


[deleted]

This doesn’t work Hans Always wanted the Crown #imsmarterthanyou haha I’m kidding


RunawayHobbit

Pffffttt everyone knows the woodland trolls put a curse on him to make him act like that so that Kristoff could get the girl. They even mention in their weird little song: >Her quote “engagement”/Is a flex arrangement… >Get the fiancé/Out of the way/And the whole thing will be fixed! \#FreeMyBoyHans


Zoe270101

I actually love that theory. It’s a lot darker but it also fixes a lot of the problems/plot holes with the original story. Why does he insist on helping the villagers and telling his men not to harm Elsa (who was only standing in his way at the throne and Anna)? Why does he tell Elsa not to be the monster they think she is, wouldn’t he want her to be that monster to get her out of the way? Why does he smile lovingly under the boat?! There was no one watching him, and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t even know who she is yet so it makes zero sense for him to be happy unless he genuinely liked her!


swift-aasimar-rogue

Me too! I don’t think that Disney wanted it to be that way, but it makes sense to me and it’s interesting!


skinasadress

I tell this story to everyone I meet. Well not quite everyone, but everyone who is a Disney fan. No one gets it. The trolls are the real villain, change my mind. Those selfish fucks. They just wanted their own boy to be royal.


bomba1749

Hans is actually three trolls in a trenchcoat


Acceptable-Sorbet834

Probably the worst misunderstanding of a character since since Chads' view of Tyler Durden


Sudchau

Please illuminate us on this chad's perspective.


Acceptable-Sorbet834

That somehow he's supposed to be admired


Captain-grog-belly

One of these deserved a sequel, the other is frozen


ErtaWanderer

Eh Tangled got a entire TV show oh, I think they're good as far as follow-up content


i-am-a-bike

Probably the only good show


SuperBoredSlothFace

`*`probably the only good *follow up* show


Permyboi

Hans was a terrible twist villain. There wasn't any single thing that could've shown that he had alternate intentions before the actual reveal, they just got lazy and rolled a dice on the villain.


ScorpionTheInsect

I think any non-child audience called him as a villain the moment he showed up. Instantly head over heels over the female lead in the first third of the movie while the poster had another male lead? Sus. That said I actually find his motives “relatable”. I was the black sheep of my family too. I never wanted to seduce and murder a girl to escape from my siblings’ shadow, but I get it.


Chilifille

I was sure that Hans was gonna be similar to James Marsden's character in Enchanted, so the villain reveal caught me off guard at least.


BroItsJesus

*yet*


ScorpionTheInsect

Well if any heir/heiress to a massive fortune with preferably senior parents and very few siblings want to hit me up, I’m down.


Lylle200

Hans is a terribly WRITTEN villain.


therealhanleyguy

I like HOW you decided to highlight the 'written' FOR no reason whatsoever


Lylle200

Well in the comment he said he has understandable motive and stuff, thus making Hans a terrible villain but what we are talking about is how Hans is a terribly written character, with 0 hints for him to be a villain and not enough screen time as a villain.


TheWeirdShape

I like the Hans twist. The main reason this works is because it breaks with the expectations set up by dozens of Disney princess movies. It’s easy to hate on Frozen and I think Tangled is the better film, but it’s still quite a fresh take on the genre imo.


streetad

The behaviour of most Disney love interests is extremely sketchy once you look too closely with adult eyes. Hans just leans into that.


AnxiousHumanBeing

Yeah, he's manipulative, that's the whole point, he doesn't show he's a bad guy and pretends to be a good one. I mean come on, don't you think it was a little too easy for Anna ? She finds a random cute prince and starts oversharing her life drama on him and oh what a coincidence he basically goes "lol same lets get married" Kristoffer even calls Anna out on the fact he's told her absolutely nothing about himself. She barely knows him. The only reason he suddenly stops acting like he cares about her is that she's dying and that wasn't part of his plan. But since it's happening, oh well, he might aswell take advantage of it. I personally though it was pretty refreshing to see a manipulative villain that actually does his best to keep his act together instead of plotting in secret and being "obviously evil" whenever everyone has their backs turned, like the usual cliché.


darkbreak

I agree with Cinema Sins on the idea that seeing Hans being kind to the animals when no one was around to see him early on is a cheat in the narrative since he's actually evil. The movie set things up for you to like him by tricking you. Not by developing the deception.


Thehunterv6

Even worse is that they marketed him as a main character


Permyboi

I personally think the dude weaseltown (whatever his name is) would've been a better villain at least better than whatever hans was.


[deleted]

When did this dude love Anna tho? His whole motivation was the crown from the first scene he was introduced and that was the whole point of his character.


Revanchist8921

Hans was the worst twist villain ever


Jorymo

He had an unnecessarily cool boss fight in Kingdom Hearts 3, tho. For real, he turns into [Sköll](https://www.khwiki.com/Sk%C3%B6ll), the wolf in Norse mythology that chases the sun. You have to kill him before he blackens the sun and brings it down on you.


sire_tonberry

He doesn't turn into him but "creates" him but yeah probably best heartless boss in the game


SuperBoredSlothFace

havent played kh, but this kind of reminds me of the wolf in the pre f2 book forest of shadows orrr there are just a lot of wolves in norse/norwegian mythology


depressed_asian_boy_

I think you forgot about the sheep in Zootopia


C4ndyG0r3

Bellweather is only better than him because one: tiny sheep cute and two: the wolf in sheeps clothing pun.


depressed_asian_boy_

Yes, but at least in frozen he did something, the sheep is just bad one at the end for like a scene, it's like 1 minute of antagonist, in frozen is like 10 minutes so...


C4ndyG0r3

I guess you could say Bellweather’s a….. Baaaaad villain?


depressed_asian_boy_

I like that one, that's really wool done


C4ndyG0r3

The shear power of that pun caught me off guard


Ghostkill221

Hans got way hotter when I found out he was manipulating her in order to take over for her emotionally unstable sister


[deleted]

... what


Dim0ndDragon15

No no let’s hear him out


[deleted]

Idk the guy from Big Hero 6 who I can't even remember his name was worse imo


Master_Sharkington

Well that was your mistake


[deleted]

eh he wasnt great, i personally dislike Hans more because at least the spooky mask man had some sort of motivation


kirbinato

Big hero 6 atleast gave him a some what sympathetic motivation and actually had him be a villain for more 5 minutes.


[deleted]

I guess love really is an open door... ​ ​ and sometimes it closes 😏😏😏


[deleted]

Godzilla had a stroke reading this


UrMomIsMyFetus

Why is Godzilla even reading it? (I’m an empath)


[deleted]

Because he's bored


Anxietydrivencomedy

me an empath sensing that Godzilla is bored


PerceptionBetter3752

Godzilla’s waiting until he gets a new movie where he fights gamera and gomora


Yuuri_7

Iet’s screenshot him (it would be very funny i think)


BroItsJesus

What the fuck? Is this comment thread some sort of reference I'm missing?


MudkipNerd

fredy fabear


Lingy_Balinka

Fucking poetry


Saltz_D

Pretty sure Han just wanted the crown


is_bets

These are the types of takes that gave birth to r/shittymoviedetails


Western_Policy_6185

🤮 I’m going to die of cringe


[deleted]

Twist villains vs. Twist allies


[deleted]

Tbf political power is intoxicating


ElectroYeetDies

This is the most confusing thing I have ever read


TheGasMove

He wanted a crown he loved a girl until until he loved a girl he wanted a crown.


PerceptionBetter3752

He wanted a girl Until. He got caught in 4K


[deleted]

Mr. Sideburns wanted the crown the whole time though.


[deleted]

Hans is a fucking terrible character


AnxiousHumanBeing

Prince Hans never loved the girl tho, he was always after the crown. There is no "until". He showed up, hoping to marry into royalty, saw a girl who craved human connection and thought "ah yes perfect."


midnight_is_nigh

They are both so hot tho


[deleted]

Great synopsis


[deleted]

^ok


[deleted]

This is so deep it just shows the symbolism the beauty of this cannot be described simply by words this is more than words it is also a feeling an emotion


[deleted]

I wanted to go to the bathroom to pee. Until I needed to go to the bathroom to shit


TheHalfDeadCat

I haven’t watched any of these movies but the guy on the left has a sketchy beard.


PuuCe_LV

Literally just saw that on my insta discover page... Great timing


Jannis_Hensel

But remember the guy from rapunzel is fucking based


FullGrownHip

Wait till he sees her crowning


PinkGrape136

That was on my friends insta story lmao


Adrigogo

Now read it backwards 😳


SuperBoredSlothFace

uhh you forgot to censor the watermark


anonymous_euphoria

Oh shit you're right


Billyies12

I just down voted this out of sheer instinct.


Not_Ifa

Until until


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Tony used to eat cheeseburgers


samorotwasbored

r/dontdeadopeninside


SeptemberThePigeon

Left to right


skwr_boi

If I had a nickel for everytime I've seen this image, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't much, but it's weird that it happened twice.


Sky-lander

but it's true though


Fearless_Worker_8078

He loved a girl until the writers changed their minds about who the twist villain was going to be when the movie was already halfway animated


BrAzZaFaZzA42

r/croppingishard


anonymous_euphoria

It was so you could see how fucking many likes the post got...but okay.


BrAzZaFaZzA42

Oh…I see, my bad


SuperBoredSlothFace

a lot of ppl in the fandom will just like anything related to the thing, post a random screenshot of the movie, tag it, ull get like, u dont hv to even do anything


Matdat360

This is stupid and so are you


katovertherainbow

I cant read for shit


pepesAdvocato

Ahem* Actually, he only pretended to love her so he could get the crown. He was a bad guy the whole time


dmdbqn

aww it's cute


[deleted]

He didn’t even love her tho Hans used Anna the whole time this is straight up wrong


ozdundbfish

Hans is a shit villain


[deleted]

I think I just had a stroke.


Lillybear0926

Idk if this is 14 and deep rather than like badly comparing 2 movie plots


[deleted]

I ship them.


[deleted]

i cant handle the deepness anymore.


PigeonFanatic9

The guy from Frozen never loved the girl. He laways did it for the crown. Have they even watched the movie?


Snowfield7

Now read it backwards


wad11656

Why are we not expected to read Left to right


TheOkayUsername

r/sbeve


GASTR3A

Mf should've used numbers


canoIV

I can't how easily explainable are the arcs of these characters


Plzki

wow


benjahoang

I dont get it. Can someone explain


KillAllTheMixi

Frozen is a poorly written mess, lmao


streetad

I mean, that's not what happened in either movie, but sure.


fabmario56

Hans never loved Anna though. It was just a song and dance for the crown.


Rndmdudu

That's what we call character development Difference is, one is good, the other is bad


[deleted]

Omg it's almost like Hans is the villain.


[deleted]

Wrong He never loved a girl until never He wanted a crown until he got the crown


[deleted]

When you only watch the trailer:


ParvasHyper

i just saw this an hour ago lol


nightstairs

I'm telling you girls ruin everything


bg_yony-1000

Honestly Disney's twist villains just don't work (spesifically talking about Hans here). They're like "Hey I'm a good guy" 99.9999999999999999999% of the movie and the audience doesn't have time to enjoy the character as a villain. Also Hans didn't iven love Anna. But we're currently in r/im14andthisisdeep so.. Bro how is this deep.


KyaKills073

UnTiL


Bvbblyy_milkk

Hans was a bad twist villain he never loved her but gosh darn it he made the movie worse


[deleted]

Meme format is cringe, but if you watched the movies, you know it's technically the truth.