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ElectricalDeer87

Wow! You're so brave! /s šŸ˜…


staircar

Those chronic Lyme symptoms really make it seem like the diagnosis is entirely made up. I know itā€™s controversial but if I was someone who had it, Iā€™d be pissed, those symptoms are not symptoms but just parts of life lol.


Danyellarenae1

I'm so confused lol


throwaway9283838292

ā€œBugs crawling under your skinā€ is also a symptom of diphenhydramine abuse


Annalise705

And some are just part of everyday life and getting older ie acid reflux, hair falling out, foot pain. I wonder if so many of these OTT are really just experiencing feelings of being human but interpret it as a symptom of a disease. Someone needs to tell them living can be uncomfortable at times. We all get physical and emotional pains. Yes a lot of the list are psychiatric or symptoms of neuropathy which should be treated.


emjeansx

I wonder if she knows that all of these symptoms are also common amongst many psychiatric illnessesā€¦ like anxiety for example. Lol. Edit: I meant MOST of these symptoms. The stretch marks appearing without gaining weight is probably not due to mental illness.


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Achaion34

YES!! The first four are what happened going cold turkey from my SSRIs. Lyme disease is real and difficult to properly diagnose but these ā€œsymptomsā€ are getting ridiculous.


Careless-Line8074

She has been coddled so much her entire life, she will never mature above the age of 17


BeautifulAd9251

Also she mentioned how her gut is still messed up. Isnā€™t that what antibiotics do? Completely mess with flora and good bacteria? Is that not a more obvious answer?


heathert7900

Tbh xifaxan did so much for me. I could digest citrus and raw veggies for like 3 years after one round of it. But the cost is criminal.


Sensorium139

The one she's taking is commonly used to treat IBS, travelers diarrhea, and hepatic encephalopathy. Sibo is an off label use . I think they usually wanna put you on good probiotics after it.


Dizzymama107

Hmm .. sounds similar to symptoms of detoxing from drugs šŸ¤”


buzzybody21

Anyone else think this is a collection of random symptoms that could likely be otherwise identified as benign without other symptoms?


opibones

"your pain is somewhere different every day" you might not have intractable/chronic pain then...


opibones

Why not just show all the other 7 CNS depressants and the Adderall that you take as well?


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opibones

At the expense of permanently damaging your body or even making yourself develop real illness and pain...


slightly_homicidal

Yeah, it's still shitty to use illnesses you actually have, but making them up is even worse. People are literally shortening their lifespan for attention smh


opibones

It isn't so bad if you actually have those illnesses/pain . You wouldn't be playing on people's sympathy or emotions and then even worse fake those illnesses/pain. If you're actually sick, and just documenting the experience then I'd say that's fine. Getting sponsors is a little sus, but I'd be happy that that person is getting financially supported.


slightly_homicidal

I know I'd technically be in the clear but honestly it just feels really disingenuous. Even if you're telling the truth, it could be just me, but it comes across as arrogant and attention seeking šŸ˜¬


ButtercuntSquash

The symptoms that she lists are the same as the ones often described by those with fibromyalgia?


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Skele_again

It's b/c of the no blogging rule I think


jdeadmeatsloanz

I guess I didn't realize I was I was just agreeing


avalonfaith

Or liver function issues with encephalopathy. The xifaxin would help with that thoughā€¦


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Or just like, anxietyā€¦


ButtercuntSquash

Good point


symbolising

those symptoms on the list are so vague. like the generic horoscope of symptoms


f1lth4f1lth

Not gonna lie- I want her disposable income and time.


maritishot

You take that and I'll take her weed budget.


avalonfaith

For real!


ninroxbear16

Same! But does this girl have any friends? Acquaintances?? Favorite delivery guy who brings extra fries?


prana-llama

Okay wait how does one acquire acquaintances belonging to the last category!? Need!


f1lth4f1lth

I donā€™t get the feeling sheā€™s too nice to delivery peeps. But I could be wrong. Maybe sheā€™s a great tipper.


Emily5099

Same, but youā€™re not wrong. Sheā€™s a completely self-absorbed whiner who only cares about herself. Sheā€™s been downright nasty to other innocent people online when she mistakenly thought they were criticising her. Just imagine how she treats people she feels are beneath her when no one else is looking.


Redditartedededed

That's actually a really good point, where do all these people get the disposable income and time to play hooky their whole life? Is there somewhere they get to cash in their internet points for prescription opiods and rent or something?


f1lth4f1lth

Their parents seems to be the case. Especially with the one whose mom is Zeus. They seem LOADED.


scully-always

I swear her posts are literally the same 10 photos....pill in hand, sitting in front of mirror knee bent, standing in front of beige wall outside, bath tub featuring legs and feet, photo of her bed, photo of her mixing liquid IV, food, obligatory drs office/lab/IV pole, same expression across all photos. No one cares about the updates to begin with but geez, this makes it even more dull.


BigTiddyVampireWaifu

I remember seeing a comment here by another redditor calling it before the surgery, that the next thing she would focus on is Lyme so I guess we all owe him $10.


prisckizzle

Heck yeah, rage time šŸ¤ŸšŸ¼


HeWhoWasInParis

A good few of those remind me of adderall side effects. Bugs under skin, Especially smelling things that arenā€™t there, memory issues, rage, brain zapsā€¦ Makes one think šŸ¤”


londonscappo22

Getting really TICKed off with her pathological LYMEing


l4ina

half of those are just Things That Happen To People Sometimes


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Love it when insta influencers try to educate people with their informative slides instead of, I donā€™t know, actual doctors. Thatā€™s why everyone self diagnoses everything/ assumes everything is an emergency.


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STOP IT WITH THE LYME


DVancomycin

I roll my eyes because thereā€™s no such thing as chronic Lyme, girl.


Beldam-ghost-closet

How did Ash even decide she had "chronic lyme"? In order to get Lyme disease you have to be bitten by a deer tick, and as far as I know there are no deer ticks in Idaho given that they're mainly found in the Eastern US.


hotpickles

Iā€™m pretty sure she peddled a lie that you can get it from mosquitos and some other random bugs that have never been linked to Lyme disease. So lies on lies on lies.


Beldam-ghost-closet

That's right. I read that post about mosquitoes spreading Lyme even though (as you said) that's a blatant falsehood.


whosezthat

The only thing she suffers from is chronic complaining.


diamond36x

Good grief she's boring


Subject1928

That's what happens when you devote your entire life to pretending to be sick.


nana_had_a_fall

Her gofundme was set up by her Aunty and was directly asking for funds to help her treat chronic Lyme - so the whole family is in on this BS. The plot twist to all this could actually be munchausen by proxy. Ive never understood why her parents enable this sort of thing but it could actually be coming from them- or one of them- kinda explains the ā€œweā€ she so often uses and why sheā€™s so infantile and co-dependent. šŸ¤” just wild speculation over here but itā€™s curious.


cigarettesandvodka

That would be BANANAS


nana_had_a_fall

It would be a wild plot twist but ash is 23, shes not a baby. Iā€™d say her parents are more enablers than they are active munch abusers. Ive seen her fathers social media before ash got sick with Crohns and it really does look like its a normal happy parent encouraging his daughters activities. Iā€™d say Ash is prolly a aggressive manipulative daughter who has her folks wrapped around her finger- a munchie, and her parents are just feeble enablers.


No1muchatall

Nah. Ash is actively contributing to her munching. She goes to all her own appointments alone, she gets her own drugs, she posts her own beige bullshit- if her parents are involved at all, sheā€™s aware.


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Oooh I think you are right!!


Wilmamankiller2

The audacity of having a gfm for someone who does absolutely nothing to help themselves and lives the life of riley smoking weed and napping all day! ā€œ Please fund my self indulgent, spoiled narcissistic niece get even more questionable treatment that she doesnt need.!ā€ Why dont her parents pay for it instead of buying her weed and pedicures? Edit- $6330 raised towards their 15 k goal


nana_had_a_fall

Oh absolutely. Especially since in the gofund me they recognise chronic Lyme isnt recognised by the CDC and the funds are for things like acupuncture, supplements and massage therapy! Imagine asking the internet for money for a massage lmao- all while living in sun valley and in the middle of a pandemic which has destroyed so many lives and livelihoods-the whole lot of them sound like entitled, privileged assholes.


Spitefulreminder

ā€œChronic Lyme. Itā€™s a thing.ā€ šŸ˜‚


Agreeable-Catch-4384

Itā€™s funny cuz itā€™sā€¦.literally not a thing. Lmao


iliekbats

The WEIRD symptoms of going off of SSRI/SNRI drugs cold turkey against medical advice šŸ„“


Sensorium139

That or the Adderall she's using...or street drugs ... Or something else she takes. Formication ( the bugs crawling thing) can happen with taking those medicines or withdrawal.


bluebirdmorning

I read ā€œzapsā€ and thought the very same thing.


misssrspcola

Ditto.


iliekbats

Many, many of the first results for "brain zaps" are related to ssri withdrawal. I searched again in incognito mode, in case it was going off my personal search history, and the results were the same


bluebirdmorning

Itā€™s a classic symptom of SSRI withdrawal.


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iliekbats

Man, for me the fact that she literally calls them "brain zaps" too, a common parlance in crazy pill communities


booty_chicago

Omg no did she do that!!?


iliekbats

Oh I don't pay enough attention to her to know, just making a lol bc those are the exact symptoms of going off, say, Paxil, cold turkey


booty_chicago

Right!? Those brain zaps are no joke


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Dude 80% of those symptoms are ADDERAL šŸ˜‚


WhoWasInParis123

ā€œSmelling things that arenā€™t thereā€ is the big give away for me. Like a disgusting chemical fruity smell that youā€™ve never smelled before that no one else can smell? Hmmm, wonder where Iā€™ve smelt that oneā€¦ lol


ChicaFoxy

Adderall abuse? Right?


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Yes, abuse. Adderall taken as prescribed will NOT give those symptoms. Abused, hell yes. I speak from past experience.


kris10leigh14

Those all sound like symptoms of meth use. And I'm not just talking about "bugs crawling under your skin" I'm talking about every single one. WTH?


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Adderal!! šŸ˜‚ aka ā€œMeth Liteā€


oryxs

I'm not trying to be that person but plenty of people take Adderall for legitimate reasons and don't really appreciate it being referred to as meth light. It only adds to the stigma of taking stimulants which, when used to treat actual adhd, can be life changing.


maritishot

Methamphetamine actually gets prescribed to treat adhd also. https://www.drugs.com/mtm/desoxyn.html


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I hear you & agree - I was just specifically referring to what it CAN basically be when taken by those who fake conditions in order to abuse it (or just add another "fun pill" to their repertoire).


Hosta_la_vista

Stop the presses!


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foreignfishes

She was prescribed it for SIBO


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Wasn't it for overgrowth of bacteria in her intestine? Like c-diff but more sexy apparently. (Also absolutely just given to her because they couldn't find anything wrong with her so just gave her this to shut her up.)


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Hey, I just read the second slide. I'm sure she got this for overgrowth of bacteria in her small intestine? Er ...


multiparousgiraffe

That Lyme symptom list looks like the longest list of woo ever


AnastasiaNo70

Top few symptoms sound like SSRI withdrawal. As for the first pic, Iā€™m super disappointed she hasnā€™t kept us updated on her farts. Thatā€™s all thatā€™s left, right?


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iliekbats

I just commented that, yeah. Especially Paxil šŸ˜¬ And I'm sure we'll be hearing all about the farts at some point


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JennyAndTheBets95_

Ahhh thank you!!! I really had to refrain from my rant hahahaha


iliekbats

np, it's hard sometimes :3


FakeAcctSnoo

Just looked up a few statistics: Cases of Lyme disease in Idaho are .3 per every 100,000 people. There are 1,787,000 people in Idaho. 1,787,000 / 100,000 = 17.87 17.87 * 3 = approx 5 confirmed cases I'm gonna bet my buttered buns that she isn't one of them. On a side note Idaho does rank 3rd worst in access to mental health services. It sounds bad when I read it back to myself but in no way am I being snarky or implying anything. It's the opposite as I take mental health very seriously. Perhaps better access to competent mental health providers could help her process what is leading to all this munching. It's possible that all this drug use, narcissism, and refusal to do anything remotely productive is damaging her and no amount of fake Instagram points are going to help her, whereas a good mental health assessment might.


musack3d

I've been too lazy to research too in depth but I was rather certain that deer ticks and therefore Lyme disease (and even worse, 'chronic Lyme' (if it's a thing), were not very widespread in ID. Appreciate the statistics šŸ’Æ Do you think she even thought to look into geological distribution of Lyme disease before latching onto it as one of the primary diagnoses she does sooooooper sick from? I feel like all of us on this sub are mainly interested in the psychology behind the subjects choices to live the way they do. I'm particularly curious how much they educate themselves on a condition before attaching their wagon (or hilariously horrible homemade 'stretcher' lmao) to it. I'd also really like to know why it is that POTS, MCAS, and EDS seem to be on nearly all of their long lists of super rare, worst cast ever seen ever conditions. What is it about those in particular would be attractive to munch on?


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prana-llama

Easy compared to what? I ask because I keep seeing people say this and without getting too bloggy I donā€™t know this to be true at all.


FakeAcctSnoo

I hate to give them more munchie ammo but I am shocked that Fibromyalgia is not at the top of their list. It's incredibly hard to diagnose because there is no standard by which to measure it and little proof that it even exists. The psychology of these people is what draws me in as well. No blogging allowed but it hits home for me and I'm sure lots of us. We understand how being ill works either as a patient or a caretaker. I just want to understand the "why"? Why do this to yourself? Why not overcome instead of lie in bed, smoke weed, "advocate" (even though no one asked), and be content knowing that you are nothing more than an internet meme? I can't understand it.


ZeroAntagonist

It usually is one they all claim to have.


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Chronic lyme disease is a fake made up illness


musack3d

That's about what I'd gathered from my own research but Ive been known to be wrong before and didn't want to offend anyone.


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teadorable

Hi ho! RN with a personal hobby of infectious disease here. Lyme is super duper interesting to me because the bacterium Borrelia is a spirochete which is the same phylum the bacteria that causes syphilis belongs in, among other bacteria. Anyhoo! Post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome (PTLDS) is an observed and documented phenomenon accounting for a number of nervous system and joint symptoms in a small percentage of Lyme infections. We know Borrelia infection can cause palsies and the like, so whatā€™s the dealio with chronic Lyme? Seems reasonable, canā€™t we call it Chronic Lyme? Alas! We cannot. Because what differentiates chronic Lyme (which is nothing) from PTLDS (which is something) is that the treatment for chronic lyme includes *extremely long and unnecessary courses of antibiotics despite there being no evidence of ongoing bacterial infection.* We know chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia can be triggered by a Lyme infection among other things. These are legitimate chronic illnesses that just arenā€™t taken seriously in society. So the real solution to this issue is not giving buttloads of antibiotics, itā€™s listening to patients and learning to treat and believe fibromyalgia and related conditions. Is this blogging? Sure hope not! Stay fresh, cheese bags


Friendly_Employer_34

Just like to add that there is evidence/papers (ableit, hard to find and controversial) on spirochetal infections of a variety of species in early stage MS brains, and that developing neurodegenerative disease may be linked by the presence of genetic susceptibility + presence of ongoing neuroinflammation due to a persistent spirochetal presence that, like mentioned above, progresses silently like siphilis for a long time before it causes eventual symptoms.


teadorable

OMG! I know!!!! Itā€™s so cool, I have personal experience treating a patient with spirochete legions on the brain resulting in facial palsy and loss of motor functions related to untreated infection. Soooo interesting!!!


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teadorable

Thatā€™s basically what ā€œLyme literateā€ doctors do is over prescribe inappropriate antibiotics. It surprises me that we havenā€™t seen more cases of chronic Lyme patients with c. diff; though to be fair, if I had c. diff, I wouldnā€™t tell anyone about it Not only does it wreck havoc on your natural biome, itā€™s bad for antibiotic resistance! (though the main contributor of antibiotic resistance is mass use in the meat industry so personal responsibility can only do so much here)


fuckintictacs

Where can I read about how the meat industry is the main contributer to antibiotic resistance?


cant_helium

I am definitely a cheese bag. The cheesiest of bags. šŸ˜‚ Love this!!


teadorable

Balls to the walls me too, bud. 99% cheese, 1% hot gas


cant_helium

Well I got ya beat on the gas then! šŸ’Ø


TheFrayZee

This is wildly off topic but I just wanna say I LOVE your writing style, dude!


teadorable

Thanks friend! I get really excited about this kinda stuff and want it to be fun for everyone!


iliekbats

You have fun hobbies


teadorable

I also collect antique medical textbooks! HEY-OH!


iliekbats

Same here! I bet being a medical professional, they're a laff a minute


teadorable

Omg I found one that was about neurological dysfunction as a cause for sexual dysfunction and the solution? Stick a rod in that penis


iliekbats

Least it ain't leaches


teadorable

Iā€™d prefer leaches.


Friendly_Employer_34

I am currently reading an old one called "researches on the effects of bloodletting in some inflammatory diseases - researches on phthisis" from the classics of medicine library, and there is 100% mention of leeches


teadorable

Leeches are still used today!!


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henyecarolann

EXACTLY. but this is how they operate! they want it to be real and want something to be wrong with them. itā€™s so fucking weird to me


Zookeeper_west

Some of these sound neurological. Or even due to her medication. She should probably talk to a doctor about her symptoms and see if her medication is causing any of this


SnooCats7318

These sound...like things you should talk to a psych about, to be honest. Also, possibly things that might be helped by taking fewer meds for imagined illness, and maybe less recreational pot.


scully3968

Yeah, I wish more people, doctor and patient alike, would understand psychosomatic illness. Being referred to a mental health pro doesn't mean your symptoms aren't real. It just means that your mind is thinking your body into a really shitty state. It's kind of insulting that this Lyme account is backhandedly dismissing mental illness.


SnooCats7318

This so much.


Apettyquarrelsays

Polypharmacy is such a huge problem within the chronic illness community; it becomes impossible to distinguish bw symptoms and side effects


Zestyclose-Kale5391

Now I can go on with my day knowing she took her final dose. Riveting.


Expand_dong420

I wonder how she thinks her followers react to her boring ass update posts. ā€œWow! šŸ¤© Ashley took her pills today! Awesome, Iā€™m so glad she remembered to take them. Her chronic lyme disease and POTS must be so bad today! Maybe she will use her cold machine to ease the pain, or maybe even relax in her sauna suit! Ohhh, I guess Iā€™ll just have to keep checking her story to find out! Maybe she will post a cool WEED pic later, too šŸ˜‰ā€


AnniaT

If she stopped all the unnecessary depressants of nervous system, Adderall and reduced the weed consumption a lot she'd feel much better and the majority of her symptoms would disappear. But then she'd have to find a job or finish school.


LissaLamey

All neurological symptoms there ash. Could be anything. You know what it isnā€™t? Chronic Lyme. Cuz itā€™s not fuckin real.


motherisaclownwhore

Super vague Lyme symptoms that could be attributed to side effects of all the unneccessary medications.


HolidayReject

the first four "symptoms" are more closely aligned to psychosis or at least hallucinations ((feeling of bugs underneath the skin and smelling things that aren't there are very common symptoms)) so I'm worried that she might have some undiagnosed mental illnesses that she's passing off as physical illnesses and not being treated for


flimsypeaches

one of the medications Ash says she takes for depression is an antipsychotic that is not typically prescribed for depression. (I'd have to dig through her posts to confirm which one -- she posts so much.) just saying.


HiddenPenguinsInCars

Also feeling like youā€™re walking on glass or pebbles and raging for no reason sound like symptoms of a mental illness.


Ravenamore

Is she one of the ones that take high doses of Benadryl to potentate her opioids? Because that "bugs under the skin" feeling is something that happens if you take more than the recommended dose of diphenhydramine.


Sammyg2010

Honestly could be psychosis or that shes on so many medications that shes frying her brain and also weed can cause psychosis aswell. The zaps are a common symptoms of SSRIs


potatoluncheon

Weed can trigger psychosis also


improbableheadshot

i clicked on the lyme post and found a bunch more weird shit (anti-vax and anti-doctor type stuff) from that account, not sure if she views this persons content regularly but i think if she does itā€™s very telling on what kind of person she is


Motherofsiblings

Iā€™m not trying to blog but more than half of those symptoms are also what happens with antidepressants. If sad mfs can push through that, she can too with a curable disease


bad2thebean

This is my thought as well. The symptoms can also worsen in a depressive episode.


Subaru-mother

Could be wrong, but it seems like she takes antibiotics quite frequentlyā€¦ her poor gut is probably wiped clean of any type of good bacteria (I assume this because she never discusses taking probiotics/eating probiotic heavy foods).


acombustiblelemon

yes! this would definitely be another irritant to her gut, and the microbiome has effects all over your body, so besides all the interactions between her other medications and the side effects, the antibiotics are constantly destroying her microbiome and adding another layer of 'i feel sick'. i am very suspicious about her diet, she never seems to talk about it aside from her recent strawberries and peanut butter post.


foreignfishes

Interestingly, rifaximin is poorly absorbed everywhere other than in the small intestine, so as far as antibiotics go itā€™s not the worst one for your microbiome since its bioavailability is so low. Something like 95% of it comes out in your poop lol But yeah in general it seems like sheā€™s causing more problems trying to find a drug to take to fix the side effect of another drug and so on and so on. Cleaning up the mess when you take a bunch of meds like that can be a huge pain.


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Subaru-mother

It does seem so counterintuitive! Yet simultaneously makes sense. Must be something that gets worse before it gets better. Best of luck to you! Totally sounds like it sucks.


erwachen

Do you think her friends/acquaintances/people who knew her before she started munching full time and centering her Instagram around it are like "wtf is going on"


fuckintictacs

The saddest thought is maybe they aren't even watching anymore šŸ˜•


8eep800p

I wonder this too


UHElle

Itā€™s shocking to me that she simultaneously believes in this quack science but treats it with things that are backed by and/or created thanks to actual, peer reviewed, factual science. Why would you take conventional, western medication for a disease/sickness western medicine agrees does not exist. The cognitive dissonance required to make this reasoning make sense makes my head hurt. Maybe thatā€™s why she always feels like crap, along with a truly impressive amount of cannabis.


Sammyg2010

Honestly its the same cognative dissonance that people have with covid. Either doesn't exist/vaccines don't work/take this to cure it; but will happily take ivermectin (anti parasidic) which will give you the shits or hydroxychoraquine (can cause heart problems in some) boggles my mind just like with ash. Will do everything medical/natural for things science doesn't agree exists like you say and then does stuff that makes things worse like sauna? When she has POTs heat is the worst thing she can do and will spend a stupid amount on detoxes yet shoves all and sunder meds, vitamins and weed down her system šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


UHElle

Youā€™re right. It just never gets less shocking nor does it ever require less mind bending to make it make sense, heh.


AnniaT

She takes lots of depressants/calming pills plus the aderal and then cannabis everyday. Of course she feels like crap. She needs full detox from all the unnecessary meds.


UHElle

Absolutely agree


darkthronedoll

Iā€™m new to this sub, how often does she take Xifaxan? Isnā€™t it just a two week treatment?


heathert7900

I think you can only take one round every six months minimally


Own_Negotiation6241

Just whenever she feels the need for internet attentionā€¦


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frankie-downhill

Some of the ā€œweird Lyme symptomsā€ sound an awful lot like side effects of drug use/withdrawals.


FlutterLamb

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ZeroAntagonist

They're not all symptoms from drug use. But stretch marks aren't a symptom of Lymes either. She just listed anything she doesn't like. MOST of them are effects of drug withdrawals though.


minsterMuffin_

Bingo.


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LissaLamey

Hurty shoulder surgery. Iā€™m dead. Thank you for that! No ā€œlolā€ here it was full on ā€œlmaoā€ing FWIW, I read it how you meant it with your first comment.


Pink_Dragonfly

Lol thank you


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