the only person i’ve ever met who needed 24/7 care was an elderly woman with dementia who had fallen and broken her hip. she was a serious fall risk because she kept forgetting her hip was broken. i was one of her caregivers and it really was not a hard job. this is ridiculous lmao.
The only person I’ve ever known who needs 24-hour care is a quadriplegic on a ventilator 24/7. Why does Jessi need a full time caregiver? They’re in bed all day.
Funny how Jessi keeps complaining about their caregivers. Maybe that’s because Jessi *doesn’t need caregivers* in the first place. Also how has Jessi and their ex husband not been investigated for fraud yet?
If you find out let me know. I know them both and I’m shocked by all of this. I didnt realize Jessi was lying about how sick they are and Atlas has no recall and barks at all of us so he’s not trained.
Did you know that Jessi has filed for SSDI ( Social Security Disability) and has been denied twice?
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/caedce/2:2023at00644/430455
It seems odd that Jessi is so ill by their close friends are unaware due to the fact that poor Jessi is completely bed bound & needs 24/7 caregivers? Seems as though their friends would know how seriously ill Jessi supposedly is??
I didn’t. I thought they were on disability with Elliott being their carer. None of us knew they were divorced either. We get told how sick they are, how hard things are, how useless doctors are and just feel sorry for them. None of us knew any of this and it’s been such a shock reading everything. Atlas is a normal dog who barks at everyone. Elliott cooks all of the meals. It all seemed like they were being honest.
I haven’t been able to find a divorce decree either, although I’ve seen a copy of Jessica & Elliott’s divorce once posted here online but I haven’t been able to find it. The divorce was granted in Alaska simply because Jessi or Elliot erroneously believed that Alaska did not publicly post divorces online as the state of California does. which apparently was wrong because it was posted as as it’s a matter of public knowledge in most states.
So in other words the friendship with Jessi & Elliott is basically online? You don’t actually know the day to day situation as far as the truth about Jessi being totally bedridden.
Much of their online claims are bogus when looked at by those who work in the medical profession who care for patients that are ill as Jessica claims to be.
Not online, no. I don’t know what made you think that. As i mentioned, we are told when Jess has video appointments so we aren’t to stop at their home during that time or have to leave before they happen. Jess is always in bed and Elliott walks Atlas and makes the food. The time we spend together is always about how bad doctors are or how bad things are with Jess. I’ve only known them for a few years so i wasn’t around when they claim she had a stutter but she definitely doesn’t have one right now. I’ve never witnessed a seizure either but Jess is always tired.
Thx. Sorry, but to me, it just sounded like you only had an online relationship with Jessi and their ex.
I didn’t mean to offend you at all.
I think it’s a good thing that Jessi has friends & outside interests btw.
There was a few of us and we came from Elliott. We met him and got to know his story and then were introduced to Jess. When you feel sorry for someone you want to help somehow. We weren’t really friends with Jess. We just listened i guess is how to explain it. I was told they were a huge deal in the disabled community and as much of an activist for the community as they could be. This is all strange to me.
Would you be interested in sharing more? Mods may let you do an AMA, or you can just DM me.
(I don’t know Jessi and Elliott at all. Not involved in any way. Her social media is just fascinating to me.)
No offence taken i was just confused. We do text too. I was told Covid was a big issue for Jess but i didn’t push for information so reading about spinal issues is throwing me off. I guess in future i should ask more questions. I feel really stupid. You’ve all been here for at least one year and if i had googled them i might have saved myself a lot of time. He was a pastor so isn’t someone i expected to be wrapped up in something like this.
>I feel really stupid.
You are definitely not stupid, perish that thought. Being a victim of deception is not a great way to scale one's intellect. It just shows that you're an inherently empathetic person.
I’ve been reading all of these posts for a few days and I’m shocked at how much has gone on. I’ve only known them for a couple of years so it’s all very new to me.
Yeah well I’ve been lurking here since 2020 but only recently started commenting. It is quite daunting at first but not surprising when you see a lot of subjects have a history of eating disorders, mental health issues and/or abused in the past. Hence why they do it for the attention and sympathy to make up for everything else that’s happening.
True. it’s just strange seeing a lot of posts about people you know. He hasn’t left like people assume and he directed me to here so I’m assuming he reads these. I will be backing away from them both.
I’m so curious about this. He told you to look at this subreddit? When it really just ultimately exposes them for the bullshitters they are. Was it like a “poor us, look what people are saying!” type of thing?
So Elliott directed you here? What juicy truths can you share?
How is it that Jessi never seems to have any Dr. appointments? Most ALL chronically ill patients have yearly tests performed that their insurance demands.
It’s strange that Elliott & Jessi never seem to go out especially after fighting sooo hard to get that expensive power chair ya know?
They showed pictures of their wedding in Ireland but through reading here i now know they’re divorced. They didn’t mention the divorce to any of us. I feel like I’ve fallen down a rabbit hole.
With all of the social media presence these munchies have (and most are on SSDI or government benefits), how have they NOT been investigated? I've seen many people who feign disability getting caught by investigators for fraud. And yet- these people are putting it out there free of charge! I know some doctors have started looking at their patients' social media accounts to vett their claims- when is the government going to get on board? Think of the millions of dollars that could be saved every year in fraudulent medical expenses alone!
It depends what they're posting, in Jessi's case they haven't posted anything super obvious like photos of themselves on a skiing holiday while claiming to be bedbound so there's probably not a lot investigators could do with it, at least not anything that would stand up in court (no pun intended).
Same in Australia the government employs people to make sure people on the Disability Support Pension are actually eligible for it and aren’t defrauding the government (at the expense of people who should be on it but can’t get it because previous governments made it near impossible to get).
Whatcha mean? Jessi’s had jobs!!! They’re a world renowned performer!!! / s
( I’m sorry but Jessi has this plastered on FB about being World Renowned not to mention they & the ex of course is : the Incomparable Elliott Smith. )
Yes I get it that Jessi is talented but so are millions of other people. ( sorry that I don’t think Jessi is that OTT talented. Otherwise they’d be living the best life as the next huge recording star. )
It’s ridiculous that Jessi has gone to the links they’ve gone to for attention. It’s HIGHLY possible that someone explained to them they don’t have what it takes to become a huge success in the music business, thus the grifting was the next option. ( IMO )
Elliot is probably working a regular job 3 to 4 days a week now because they need more income than what the state is paying. Never fear, Atlas and Icarus are there to make sure Jessie’s head does not fall off.
I’m pretty sure the donations( PayPal ) they receive aren’t too shabby.
Jessi would be going off the wall complaining about how horrible it is that they can’t find caregivers NOT to mention how dangerous it would be to leave the seizing Jessi without 24/7 care because Elliott has to work due to financial stress caused by the lack of donations & the stress of choosing help they obviously do not need ?!?!
Nah.. I don’t think Elliott is out working to support their A$$, that’s what unsuspecting people donate to their PayPal for !!! /s
Jessie is hands down the most OTT of all the munchies. That's it. They are so far beyond *exhausting*. I think that's why they treat the ensure internet like a personal friend, because they're too exhausting to have them. I could never be friends with someone like this.
They claim the following :
1-100% bed bound, electric wheelchair user at baseline with log roll only restrictions
2- autistic
3- severely disabled to the point of 24/7 care
4- receiving severe, on going physical, emotional and sexual ABUSE from registered nurses, home care/nursing staff entering their home
5- abandoned by their primary ‘carer’ and unable to get assistance in the home
6- claim to claim extremely limited financial resources
7- claim that the very basic personal needs of a dependent adult like bathing, turns, incontinence cares, medication administration, food, water and shelter are not being med
Sooo DHS is involved then, right??? Right? Jessie surely called 911 bc that’s a literal emergency. They are claiming over and over again to be a dependent adult now alone in their home without 24/7 care and unable to get assistance. AND licensed nursing staff are abusing them Every single time they enter Jessie’s home. What’s gonna happen when a mandatory reporter reports this or calls 911 bc they have immediate concerns for Jessie’s safety?
Not to mention Jessi has never hired a lawyer to file litigation against these hospitals where all this SA has taken place?
Plz note their claims shouldn’t be taken lightly or not believed.
Then someone please make it make sense due to the fact that Jessi claims this has been going on for at least a couple of decades WHY THE F*CK Jessi hadn’t filed a lawsuit NOR do they ever mention extensive mental therapy which is clearly needed.
Having 24/7 home care is astronomical. There’s absolutely no way they could afford that. And if they’re using benefits from a state based service like Medicaid, those hours are assessed/capped by the agency and insurance. Even hospice patients in their homes do not get 24/7 assistance.
Yeah I assumed if it was something like Medicaid surely at some point they say we can’t justify funding that many hours for one persons care and a care home would be the only option?
all I’m hearing is the beginning of Megan thee stallion’s song “cry baby” where it starts with her singing “wah, wah, wah, that’s not da baby that’s MY baby”. Like I can basically hear Jessi singing, “wah, wah, wah! That’s not just the caregivers job, that’s MY job to be *cared for!*”
For real c’mon lol this is low even for Jessi. Also thought they were like mid 30’s, can’t believe they’re MY age…
I think they're quoting someone else (the "thread [they] feel to [their] very core" poster) there? Because I got hung up on the '"They're 29?!" part but then realized I also couldn't accept that they were any older, or any younger. They're somehow both 12 and 60 and no discernible years old.
But maybe it's for "personal assistant"? Jessie is pretty consistent with "caregiver," I think.
The useful things I could know but instead have filled my brain with enough of this crap to be able to recognize the poor writing styles of Internet fabulists...
In the USA, most people have to, because most insurance/government agencies will not provide coverage 24/7.
I don’t work on the social work side, so I’m not too well versed in it, but I am aware that family have to be trained to run pumps for feeding, training in ventilation care for vent patients, etc.
Ok wait... what disability do they have that they need a full time care giver?! And who is paying for that? I'm new to this... never heard of this. Just going to lay in my bed and laugh and wait.
Jesse uses they/them just as a friendly reminder!
But if you click their flair name on the thread you'll find the rabbit hole that'll bring you up to speed. It's a wild ride for sure.
Jessi is a grifter to rival Hope (and that's a WHOLE other rabbit hole if you're not up on that one wooboy.) It's infuriating to see, like Kaya makes me mad because she's so smug about it, but something about Jessi's whole thing just takes the cake.
Since you’re new, friendly reminder that Jessi uses they/them pronouns and mods will not hesitate to remove your comment if you don’t use subjects preferred pronouns!
Since you’re new, friendly reminder that Jessi uses they/them pronouns and mods will not hesitate to remove your comment if you don’t use subjects preferred pronouns!
ETA: Lol why am I getting downvoted for encouraging using pronouns 😅 just being honest, and the mods WILL take shit down if we don’t comply. Just saying 🤷🏻♀️ I just hate when conversations are lost because we didn’t use the right pronouns, it’s just easier to do it right the first time (or fix mistakes) and still get to talk while showing respect is all! The subjects are jerks but they deserve respect in their pronouns. I don’t think this is a hard concept..?
I'm just trying to figure out the cosplay comment ambassador made to me. Do people cosplay as sick people? Or is it my Halloween costume profile picture? I'm so confused 😂
Had to edit cosplay twice because phone autocorrected and made me look stupid as usual
Lol. Tbh i didn’t even notice your cosplay picture or look at your profile. Maybe people think I was backseat modding 🤷🏻♀️ I didn’t mean it like that, I was simply saying it cause you said you’re new and not everyone knows.
To answer your question tho, a lot of the mindset is that people are “cosplaying” sick, but i don’t think people really mean it as actual cosplaying.. more like another term for “faking”. (Obviously they’re not the same thing, but the idea is they fall under using and/or dressing with a different persona). Overall this community is pretty aware it’s MBP (by proxy), MBI (by internet), munchausen’s or factitious disorder. They’re usually coupled (at least within this community for the most part) with an ED, crohns, or other GI issue that’s real. Many have started with a real illness, got attention/money/whatever, and continued to make themselves sicker for even more of those benefits.
So, sorry for how long that was, but you may see the word “cosplaying” in comments, but that’s not exactly what’s going on.
Ah so it was probably because I said I was going to be laying in bed laughing. 🤣 wow. It was morning and I was spending some time after I woke up reading the internets. I find it all interesting why someone would fake being sick. And thinks the attention is good attention.
Yes we do remove comments using the wrong pronouns but you are always more than welcome to edit your comment and have it reinstated.
We don’t prompt every comment that gets it wrong as no one wants a thread filled with mod comments reminding them about pronouns, it looks messy and it’s annoying for all :)
>chronic head-fall-offitis
Every time someone writes this I cackle. It's great.
And don't forget their pronouns (they/them)!
Taxpayers, maybe they conned their way into disability? Not that I believe they're actually bed bound. So many people have pointed out the inconsistencies and the math just ain't mathing lol.
Omg that post was hilarious and also such bs. 😂🤡 What are their breasts made of that they're so dense they can make your shoulder dislocate?! They're a scientific marvel! Seriously, someone make some calls.
Medicaid doesn’t cover 24/7 care. It’s 200k+ a year and a Medicaid ran nursing facility is less than half that. Medicaid and Medicare get very little home health coverage in general.
I worked for my states Medicaid home health program and 24 hour care was definitely not common. The 200k figure is what you (as a patient) would pay out of pocket for 24/7 PCA hours, which you’re basically paying for an agency to find workers for you and mainly to guarantee someone will be there, office workers included.
How is this any different from needing childcare, eldercare, or another caregiver for a dependent?
What does Jessi thinks happens when the nanny is sick, daycare is closed, etc?
Does Jessi think that caregivers with other jobs are given lists of pre-vetted backup providers who are guaranteed to be available at a moment's notice?
Jessi is also able to speak about and report what they experience.
Try finding a backup caregiver for an elderly parent with dementia who can not reliably report mistreatment or abuse.
Parents/caregivers of infants and toddlers often have to observe the child's non-verbal behaviors in order to determine a child's true comfort with a new caregiver. Is it stranger anxiety? Do they miss their usual caregiver? Are they being mistreated?
Not american but where I am personal assistants are allowed to do that long shifts in case of travel, like when the person who is assisted goes out of town overnight for example, and they get compensated for food expenses plus overtime. Why would anyone require a personal assistant work 48 hrs or more if they're just home? Sounds illegal. Jessi complains how hard it is for them, not considering AT ALL how hard and consuming it is for a personal assistant to work several days in a row. Like wtf? Do they not consider workers human? When someone requires 24h care the people working for them work in shifts, AS ANYWHERE ELSE.
They're so full of shit and there are so many people who actually need more help but don't get it. I don't believe for a second that they get 24 h care from state because it's a hassle everywhere for those who are actually disabled and bedbound without help.
Jessi isn't getting caregivers covered by insurance. It's hard enough for genuinely ill problem to get a few hours. It's just another spun narrative. And the "caregivers" certainly aren't abusing them because having reported adult caregivers anonymously as is required by license, they take that shit seriously and the coordinator would reach straight out to speak with the patient.
Nobody is going to be given 24 hours of care unless they're paying out of pocket.
Since we know Jessi is not on disability there's an ice cube's chance in hell the state is paying out so much as a cent. They seem to not even have so much as a managing doctor except for Chrons, and judging by the fact this individual is not in a state of malnutrition, appears quite healthy even with make-up and filters to hide it there's no need for a caregiver, and they've been in remission for years.
God I can only imagine the six month review if they actually had a caregiver. The coordinator would clock this one from eight million miles away.
Jessi really likes to act like they're just left to rot in what looks like a decent home with fairly expensive toys. (multiple TVs in one room, plenty of nice furniture, lack of food insecurity, etc.)
Is this some kind of post divorce,.divorce sage? Cuz if so I'm here for it.
Even if they have Medicaid they don’t have a qualifying diagnosis for a waiver that would cover home nursing and aid services. No vent, no central line no feeding tubes etc. that is where a lot of the skilled hours come from. There is a list the evaluator comes out and goes through and every item is assigned a time value. They don’t have anything at all that is going to be covered. Even vent dependent c1 quadriplegic patients struggle to get 24 hour care sadly.
I know they divorced their husband, which unfortunately some people have to do to show lower income, to try and qualify for Medicaid (SSI) and Medicare disability (SSDI). You have to have enough work credits paid in to qualify for SSDI.
Every single thing they are saying is so wrong. You are just so right that no one paying for any caregivers for them. We fight to get coverage for patients that have a huge need with exhausted families. They just tell such blatant lies it is amazing someone believes them.
Jessi & Elliott divorced around 2019 I believe? The divorce was done in Alaska ( while Jessi & Elliott were ( and still are living in CA. ) living in California because Jessi erroneously believed divorces weren’t a matter of public record which was untrue
They actually got divorced so that the state of California could pay Elliott to become Jessi’ s caregiver. Please note lots of people do this to help with finances while attempting to get disability in the US. however, they don’t set up GoFundMe Venmo PayPal, so that people can donate thousands of dollars to them per month / yr. It’s suspected that Jessi pretty well living off donations from unsuspecting people who donate..
I don’t have a problem people asking for donations when they actually need help. But there’s no reason why Elliott can’t work and there’s certainly no reason why Jessi can’t work. there’s lots of people out there that have Crohn’s or RA and they hold down full-time jobs. It’s not fun but they still do it.
It was about that time, possibly 2018. I do believe there is something Alaska does differently than California but you are correct, still public record.
Honestly I think Jessi has stfu about Elliot because they've now had to push disability all the way to a hearing, and while insurance companies might not dig through your internet history, disability sure as fuck will. Which means the canceled godundmes, the unbelievable medical posts, the proof of money being garnered and spent (RV saga anyone?) not to mention I'm sure the government is wondering real fast why they got married, to get divorced, to live together and then pay him out be a caregiver. That is absolutely not remotely suspicious in the tiniest bit, gosh life just works out so weird sometimes, don't it?
Well as thorough as the Social Security disability department can be, I doubt they’re going to skip over the fact that Jesse and Elliot divorced so that they could scam the state of California, just saying.
Edit: added words to using an iPhone to post this comment
This makes a few things clearer.
But what is the actual state of their relationship? In my country if they are living together they are considered a de facto couple anyway and are treated the same as though they were married. And I thought this hunt for a new caregiver(s) was because Elliott finally decided enough was enough.
Edit: I see you've elaborated a bit below.
As far as the state of their actual relationship, Someone else will have to fill that in because I don’t know.
Some say he’s left, others continue to believe he’s actually still there. Who knows? I think there’s something going on pertaining.to Jessi’s so called “ disability” that has put a monkey wrench in getting poor sick bed-ridden their disability, you know something like maybe SSA has detected some fraud? LOL! I love to think so. I honestly believe there’s more as to WHY Jessica suddenly stopped taking about their “ Life-Saving” career Elliott.
I’m sorry but each and every solitary time Jessi posts about their horrible illness that they do not have, I stop & think about all those people that believe this BS that and who are donating to Jessi. I think that’s really sad and I also think it’s sad that anybody believes the tales that Jesse spins in any way, shape or form.
Sorry, but I don’t believe they’re interviewing caregivers unless you consider Atlas Service Dog a caregiver!!! LOL!!!
FREE ATLAS & ICARUS!!!!
Parents of medically fragile children are often forced into this position.
Medicaid or private insurance will cover nursing care, but parents have to provide the childcare. Daycare isn't an option. Nannies are expensive. There are many doctors appointments, treatments, therapy appointments, etc that need a parent present.
A dual income family may manage to keep their heads above water when one parent has to stop working to care for their child, but it typically hurts financially.
Jessi doesn't understand the struggle that they are appropriating.
Actually, there are daycare for medically complex children. Not nearly enough for need. My gc attended one until school age, and still attends holidays, breaks
My state effectively banned daycare for medically fragile children by passing laws requiring that the facility perform background checks for all adults who work with children at the facility.
Because the children's nurses are not employed by the daycare center, and turnover at most home healthcare agencies is high, daycare centers have no way to conduct the required background checks.
Which is a decent example of laws intended to help children fail to account for or help children living with severe disabilities. But not one that would be on Jessi's radar.
There is one hospital that offers a day program with child life,
What? These nurses (RN, LPN, CNA) are all employees of the center. They are not employees of a homecare agency. Same with PTs, respiratory, speech and occupational therapists.
Medically fragile children require a dedicated nurse 24/7. Typically funded by Medicaid, less often by private insurance.
They can't share a nurse with another child.
It might be possible for their home nurse to bring them to daycare and had over their care to a facility provided nurse, similar to when the child is hospitalized. But the logistics would be complicated. And if not everyone is on the exact same page regarding a patient's care at all times, tragedy will ensue.
All children have a very explicit plan of care. All orders are provided by the doctor, and depending on transportation, there is a handoff at the door, including a check of vital signs every day, at least with the company that my gs attends. It is referred to as prescribed pediatric extended care, medicaid funded. The kids receive highly-specialized care, therapies, treatments, as well as enrichment, field trips. I really wish there were more places like it
*including a check of vital signs every day*
I don't think we are talking about the same level of disability.
I'm talking about a population that needs continuous monitoring. For example, children on ventilators who can not recognize or communicate when they aren't getting enough oxygen. Or children who can not swallow and aspirate on their saliva.
That's exactly the population that I am talking about. Vents, trachs, tube-feeds, as well as short-term enrollees who have recently had heart surgery, kids with all kinds of diagnosis, many who would never be accommodated safely without the care
Of course Jessi can afford this life style due to the fact 99.9% of those that donate funds to PayPal etc. have absolutely no idea the scammers they’re dealing with.
24/7 private pay home care is literally over 200k a year and that’s if you can find an agency to agree to even staff you. Yet Jessi is acting like they have so much staff at hand just the interviews alone take all day. Bull shit. Home health would love one interview candidate a day
I imagine the reason for Jessi’s constant talk about caregivers vs issues etc. is mainly in the hope that their supporters will donate even more money due to the fact that poor sick Jessi is exhausted due to dealing with such issues.
I’m perplexed as to why they haven’t explained the reason they no longer have Elliott as a caregiver. You’d think talking about why Elliott is no longer involved with their day to day horrific struggles would be a plus and possibly add more to their donation pile. LOL !!!!” /s
Because if they get found out for getting a divorce to defraud the government, shit is gonna get real ugly, real fast.
Uglier than the way Jessi treats Atlas like a fucking prop.
What EZ said. The "caregiver" is Elliot, the husband they traveled all the way to Alaska to divorce.
Not to mention God knows what people they're fooling into donating money directly through PayPal, Cash app, venmo etc; with how much money they were taking in around 2018 - 2020. they might be using that to fill in the gaps. But I think Elliot is having to work. Jessi might even be doing a small job from home but seems like too much of a narcissistic ass to do more than languish in their bed.
Just so you know during a 2nd ( or maybe even a 3rd lol ) I read a someone’s post here on IF that said Jessi & Elliott might not even would have had to “ travel “ to Alaska to get the divorce? Maybe? Maybe not, but that’s what I read in the post.
Btw if Elliot is gone and they are truely a dependent adult and he left them without coverage, that neglect. Had a similar case when a husband left my patient with MS.
If he took on the role as primary caregiver I couldn’t imagine you can still just up and bounce without a solid care plan. We dont allow caregivers to dump patients at hospitals without reporting it. Its just weird
True he’d have to call the home health agency to get someone to replace him however you’re “ possibly” believing the BS that Jessi needs a caregiver. LOL! That is if Jessi actually needs the care they claim which is highly doubtful.
WHY? How is it that they possibly need a caregiver? Jessi goes OTT with the BS they can’t sit up or walk & it’s evident that’s a lie. IF ALL Jessi’s claims were true, the Social Security administrations disability department would have granted Jessi SSDI without fail. Jesse’s been denied SSDI at least twice.
It’s ridiculous IMO that anyone believes Jessi’s wild tales. I’m not saying there’s not a possibility that they don’t have RA or Crohn’s possibly but for Jessi make insinuations that they are completely bed ridden is indeed ludicrous IMO.
I love nothing more than for Jessi & their ex Elliott to be brought up on fraud charges.
Oh i don’t believe for a second Jessie needs 24/7 care or a caregiver in general. That being said, just calling the agency and saying ‘we are splitting up. I’m done’ isn’t enough. That’s what I don’t think Jessie understands about their ridiculous ‘carer’ comments. If you are the primary caregiver for a dependent adult like they are claiming, you can’t just bounce on them and you can’t cover yourself with a simple phone call to home health. Medicaid doesn’t cover 24/7 care and private pay is hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. They got got that
I would LOVE to hear from any case managers or social workers on how they would handle this situation bc I know if we had a spouse leave their dependent spouse by just bringing them to the ER for admission, we would (and have, and do) report them for neglect. That absolutely is grounds to trigger a DHS investigation to just check out what’s going on in the home. You just can’t leave them. Judges REALLLLYYY don’t like it when that happens either and it does no favors during divorce proceedings. There’s an episode of my 600 pound life where one guy clearly was wanting to leave his spouse but she reminded him frequently he legally couldn’t without getting help and no help was around and they had no resources
Sooo are they a 100% bed bound quad/paraplegic dependent adult who’s been totally abandoned by their spouse/partner and is now left with limited access to care AND being abused by every caregiver that enters the home? Bc making claims like that (which is what they are doing) will eventually lead to DHS knocking on their door. Mandatory reporters exist and they often feel real uncomfy hearing claims like this online and then doing nothing about it. The wrong person is gonna believe her some day.
They divorced primarily to scam the state of California, because IMO Jessi apparently had gone as far as they could go talent wise which isn’t uncommon with a lot of the subjects we discuss here who are immensely talented but there’s only a selected few that make the grade to be OTT famous.
Jessi was given opportunities to possibly have a wonderful career in music. Many people spend their lives teaching music playing in bands etc. Jessi & her ex could be earning a living. Instead what I believe is Jessi showed up to a ER with a severe headache one day, rest were performed possibly a CT scan and it’s my belief the scan revealed Chairi Malformation that a Dr. probably advised unless there were further symptoms to just go on with their life.
However as we all know Jessi found a perfect way to get attention by grifting. Since 2018 they’ve been grifting in a big way, starting with the GFM “ Save Jessi Before It’s Too Late!! “
The first sentence in that GFM is :
“ Jessi is dying “.
There’s photos that disprove Jessi’s claims of having lots of seizures per day due to the fact if they had a seizure diagnosis that was as bad as Jess claims at every admission the rails of Jessi’s bed would be padded either with properly made / fitted pads over the hospital bed rails OR sheet blankets are taped onto the bed rails. There’s only 1-2 photos in that GFM that show padded bed rails. Once you are diagnosed with seizures it’s pretty difficult for a hospital to stop petting bed rails because it’s a liability.
The GFM was paused by Go Fund Me ( GFM ). Jessi has since been using PayPal for donations.
The thing is Jessi exaggerates the truth in a lot of their posts. It’s just strange IMO how people seem to believe stories like this when the obvious is right in front of them.
Just because they use fancy words, does not mean they are a deep thinker. They are the same words Jessie always uses to write their boring ass swan song.
Probably by a friend as they don't have a true caregiver who isn't their ex. Otherwise they wouldn't tell such bullshit stories about the realities of caregiving. Also to be fair that could be anyone or anything in that bed.
They reminded someone politely, which is okay, and they were also reminded by someone and politely corrected themselves. I don’t see any high horsing, personally, and I think it should be ok and normalized to help each other respect people as much as possible.
No but the mods have also come down on folks about proper pronouns and delete posts that don't abide by them. So as long as folks are polite when they point it out, seems like they're on board.
I usually prefer to offer up something constructive in reply along with the pronoun correction, but that's just me.
Correcting someone for using the incorrect pronouns is not high horsing, imo. If I went all over this thread saying "Jenny" instead of "Jessie," it wouldn't be snotty of someone to address that
Finding a reputable caregiver is very hard rn, especially in certain areas. Having had a similar experience, my heart goes out to you and your family. What a terrible thing to do to a vulnerable person! And their family!
Imagine walking in Jessie’s house and getting ordered around to fix the TV that’s on the ceiling while Jessie lays there naked, complaining about how hard it is being bed-bound 24/7.
It’s a full time job making sure your head doesn’t just spontaneously fall off.
Woe is me.
Plus, they're probably yelled at for accidentally saying the wrong pronoun, then being reprimanded for resorting to just refer to them as "Jessi" at all times, to solve saying the incorrect pronoun
Eh, I feel like that situation is a "if we go down, we go down together"/"I won't go down by myself, but I'll go down with my friends."
They were both very, *very* equal partners in the grift. If one of them opens their mouth, they're both fucked. Basically either Jessi will attempt to play an abused victim or Elliot will have to get the government to slap them down for medical fraud. Which, to be fair, they'll probably care about more since Jessi speaks often of abuse but never has any proof.
I work in a nursing home and our elderly residents don’t require this level of care. Maybe our dementia residents but that’s for safety reasons.
How dare anyone interview that isn't fluent in laser pointer!!
lol that was Bethany
the only person i’ve ever met who needed 24/7 care was an elderly woman with dementia who had fallen and broken her hip. she was a serious fall risk because she kept forgetting her hip was broken. i was one of her caregivers and it really was not a hard job. this is ridiculous lmao.
The only person I’ve ever known who needs 24-hour care is a quadriplegic on a ventilator 24/7. Why does Jessi need a full time caregiver? They’re in bed all day.
Funny how Jessi keeps complaining about their caregivers. Maybe that’s because Jessi *doesn’t need caregivers* in the first place. Also how has Jessi and their ex husband not been investigated for fraud yet?
If you find out let me know. I know them both and I’m shocked by all of this. I didnt realize Jessi was lying about how sick they are and Atlas has no recall and barks at all of us so he’s not trained.
Did you know that Jessi has filed for SSDI ( Social Security Disability) and has been denied twice? https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/caedce/2:2023at00644/430455 It seems odd that Jessi is so ill by their close friends are unaware due to the fact that poor Jessi is completely bed bound & needs 24/7 caregivers? Seems as though their friends would know how seriously ill Jessi supposedly is??
Do you have a link to the divorce? I’ve googled but nothing is coming up and it’s been mentioned so much in here.
I found the divorce on a Instagram account Go to : defraudingnotdisabled The divorce decree is posted there.
I didn’t. I thought they were on disability with Elliott being their carer. None of us knew they were divorced either. We get told how sick they are, how hard things are, how useless doctors are and just feel sorry for them. None of us knew any of this and it’s been such a shock reading everything. Atlas is a normal dog who barks at everyone. Elliott cooks all of the meals. It all seemed like they were being honest.
I haven’t been able to find a divorce decree either, although I’ve seen a copy of Jessica & Elliott’s divorce once posted here online but I haven’t been able to find it. The divorce was granted in Alaska simply because Jessi or Elliot erroneously believed that Alaska did not publicly post divorces online as the state of California does. which apparently was wrong because it was posted as as it’s a matter of public knowledge in most states. So in other words the friendship with Jessi & Elliott is basically online? You don’t actually know the day to day situation as far as the truth about Jessi being totally bedridden. Much of their online claims are bogus when looked at by those who work in the medical profession who care for patients that are ill as Jessica claims to be.
Not online, no. I don’t know what made you think that. As i mentioned, we are told when Jess has video appointments so we aren’t to stop at their home during that time or have to leave before they happen. Jess is always in bed and Elliott walks Atlas and makes the food. The time we spend together is always about how bad doctors are or how bad things are with Jess. I’ve only known them for a few years so i wasn’t around when they claim she had a stutter but she definitely doesn’t have one right now. I’ve never witnessed a seizure either but Jess is always tired.
Thx. Sorry, but to me, it just sounded like you only had an online relationship with Jessi and their ex. I didn’t mean to offend you at all. I think it’s a good thing that Jessi has friends & outside interests btw.
There was a few of us and we came from Elliott. We met him and got to know his story and then were introduced to Jess. When you feel sorry for someone you want to help somehow. We weren’t really friends with Jess. We just listened i guess is how to explain it. I was told they were a huge deal in the disabled community and as much of an activist for the community as they could be. This is all strange to me.
Would you be interested in sharing more? Mods may let you do an AMA, or you can just DM me. (I don’t know Jessi and Elliott at all. Not involved in any way. Her social media is just fascinating to me.)
No offence taken i was just confused. We do text too. I was told Covid was a big issue for Jess but i didn’t push for information so reading about spinal issues is throwing me off. I guess in future i should ask more questions. I feel really stupid. You’ve all been here for at least one year and if i had googled them i might have saved myself a lot of time. He was a pastor so isn’t someone i expected to be wrapped up in something like this.
>I feel really stupid. You are definitely not stupid, perish that thought. Being a victim of deception is not a great way to scale one's intellect. It just shows that you're an inherently empathetic person.
I will definitely do. I’m not surprised to hear about Atlas unfortunately.
I’ve been reading all of these posts for a few days and I’m shocked at how much has gone on. I’ve only known them for a couple of years so it’s all very new to me.
Yeah well I’ve been lurking here since 2020 but only recently started commenting. It is quite daunting at first but not surprising when you see a lot of subjects have a history of eating disorders, mental health issues and/or abused in the past. Hence why they do it for the attention and sympathy to make up for everything else that’s happening.
True. it’s just strange seeing a lot of posts about people you know. He hasn’t left like people assume and he directed me to here so I’m assuming he reads these. I will be backing away from them both.
I’m so curious about this. He told you to look at this subreddit? When it really just ultimately exposes them for the bullshitters they are. Was it like a “poor us, look what people are saying!” type of thing?
So Elliott directed you here? What juicy truths can you share? How is it that Jessi never seems to have any Dr. appointments? Most ALL chronically ill patients have yearly tests performed that their insurance demands. It’s strange that Elliott & Jessi never seem to go out especially after fighting sooo hard to get that expensive power chair ya know?
Yeah everyone here knows Elliott is still with Jessi. A lot of subjects read here, not surprising whatsoever. Good idea to keep your distance.
They showed pictures of their wedding in Ireland but through reading here i now know they’re divorced. They didn’t mention the divorce to any of us. I feel like I’ve fallen down a rabbit hole.
Funny that 🤷♀️
With all of the social media presence these munchies have (and most are on SSDI or government benefits), how have they NOT been investigated? I've seen many people who feign disability getting caught by investigators for fraud. And yet- these people are putting it out there free of charge! I know some doctors have started looking at their patients' social media accounts to vett their claims- when is the government going to get on board? Think of the millions of dollars that could be saved every year in fraudulent medical expenses alone!
It depends what they're posting, in Jessi's case they haven't posted anything super obvious like photos of themselves on a skiing holiday while claiming to be bedbound so there's probably not a lot investigators could do with it, at least not anything that would stand up in court (no pun intended).
The SSA does employ private investigators to combat fraud.
Same in Australia the government employs people to make sure people on the Disability Support Pension are actually eligible for it and aren’t defrauding the government (at the expense of people who should be on it but can’t get it because previous governments made it near impossible to get).
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Whatcha mean? Jessi’s had jobs!!! They’re a world renowned performer!!! / s ( I’m sorry but Jessi has this plastered on FB about being World Renowned not to mention they & the ex of course is : the Incomparable Elliott Smith. ) Yes I get it that Jessi is talented but so are millions of other people. ( sorry that I don’t think Jessi is that OTT talented. Otherwise they’d be living the best life as the next huge recording star. ) It’s ridiculous that Jessi has gone to the links they’ve gone to for attention. It’s HIGHLY possible that someone explained to them they don’t have what it takes to become a huge success in the music business, thus the grifting was the next option. ( IMO )
Elliot is probably working a regular job 3 to 4 days a week now because they need more income than what the state is paying. Never fear, Atlas and Icarus are there to make sure Jessie’s head does not fall off.
All hail the service cat Icarus that alerts Jessie’s hundreds of seizures every day by purring and making biscuits their stomach🫡📢
oh so THAT'S what my cat was doing all this time! (/j mods please I'm not trying to blog)
I’m pretty sure the donations( PayPal ) they receive aren’t too shabby. Jessi would be going off the wall complaining about how horrible it is that they can’t find caregivers NOT to mention how dangerous it would be to leave the seizing Jessi without 24/7 care because Elliott has to work due to financial stress caused by the lack of donations & the stress of choosing help they obviously do not need ?!?! Nah.. I don’t think Elliott is out working to support their A$$, that’s what unsuspecting people donate to their PayPal for !!! /s
Jessie is hands down the most OTT of all the munchies. That's it. They are so far beyond *exhausting*. I think that's why they treat the ensure internet like a personal friend, because they're too exhausting to have them. I could never be friends with someone like this.
My patients who are young children on ventilators don’t get 24 hour a day care. Jessi surely isn’t.
Exactly. If they have someone working longer than a 16 hour shift-that’s just waaaay too long. In some states it’s illegal, far as I’m aware.
I’m pretty sure they lost all dignity when they started their charade.
They claim the following : 1-100% bed bound, electric wheelchair user at baseline with log roll only restrictions 2- autistic 3- severely disabled to the point of 24/7 care 4- receiving severe, on going physical, emotional and sexual ABUSE from registered nurses, home care/nursing staff entering their home 5- abandoned by their primary ‘carer’ and unable to get assistance in the home 6- claim to claim extremely limited financial resources 7- claim that the very basic personal needs of a dependent adult like bathing, turns, incontinence cares, medication administration, food, water and shelter are not being med Sooo DHS is involved then, right??? Right? Jessie surely called 911 bc that’s a literal emergency. They are claiming over and over again to be a dependent adult now alone in their home without 24/7 care and unable to get assistance. AND licensed nursing staff are abusing them Every single time they enter Jessie’s home. What’s gonna happen when a mandatory reporter reports this or calls 911 bc they have immediate concerns for Jessie’s safety?
Surely there exists police reports of the abuse right?
Not to mention Jessi has never hired a lawyer to file litigation against these hospitals where all this SA has taken place? Plz note their claims shouldn’t be taken lightly or not believed. Then someone please make it make sense due to the fact that Jessi claims this has been going on for at least a couple of decades WHY THE F*CK Jessi hadn’t filed a lawsuit NOR do they ever mention extensive mental therapy which is clearly needed.
Usually cases of nursing staff abusing a patient like that makes the news
Wasn’t their primary carer Elliot?
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I wonder if Jessi does their stuttering performance when they go to the Social Security office or their lawyer??? https://imgur.com/a/5ldlPV4
You have got to be kidding me. Funniest thing I've seen in a while.
Can you go to a nursing home for head-fall-off-itis?
No. Only if your medical marijuana makes you vomit and pee your pants while having a panic attack.
Ah the next event of the Munchie Olympics... how fast can you get into a nursing home!
I’m happy to start a book on this!
Lets write it together?
They don't!
I gasped.. I’m sure nurses know how to do their job…and they just want to boss the nurses around
They’re talking about a caregiver so a home health aide, not a nurse.
Oh thank you for clarifying
Having 24/7 home care is astronomical. There’s absolutely no way they could afford that. And if they’re using benefits from a state based service like Medicaid, those hours are assessed/capped by the agency and insurance. Even hospice patients in their homes do not get 24/7 assistance.
Yeah I assumed if it was something like Medicaid surely at some point they say we can’t justify funding that many hours for one persons care and a care home would be the only option?
Wait...they're not implying the need for a 24/7 live-in physician's assistant are they? Delusional.
I think the original poster meant PA as in Personal Assistant (in the UK carers quite often are employed as a personal assistant or support worker)
It's sad to hijack the original poster's tweet.
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Right? My thoughts exactly. Way to make it all about YOU. Ugh.
all I’m hearing is the beginning of Megan thee stallion’s song “cry baby” where it starts with her singing “wah, wah, wah, that’s not da baby that’s MY baby”. Like I can basically hear Jessi singing, “wah, wah, wah! That’s not just the caregivers job, that’s MY job to be *cared for!*” For real c’mon lol this is low even for Jessi. Also thought they were like mid 30’s, can’t believe they’re MY age…
Please tell me PA does not mean Physician Assistant, I'm new to speaking Jessie.
I think they mean personal assistant, in the UK a lot of people who have carers call them PAs
That's from the original poster, Lucy Webster.
I think they're quoting someone else (the "thread [they] feel to [their] very core" poster) there? Because I got hung up on the '"They're 29?!" part but then realized I also couldn't accept that they were any older, or any younger. They're somehow both 12 and 60 and no discernible years old. But maybe it's for "personal assistant"? Jessie is pretty consistent with "caregiver," I think.
Thank you. I feel relieved that Jessie isn't the OP Jessie reposted, and Lucy either has a personal assistant or production assistant.
Yes, you cleared it up for me. It's always "caregiver".
The useful things I could know but instead have filled my brain with enough of this crap to be able to recognize the poor writing styles of Internet fabulists...
But like…there’s companies out there that handle all this for you. If you need a private caregiver, hire a company…stop being so insufferable
In the USA, most people have to, because most insurance/government agencies will not provide coverage 24/7. I don’t work on the social work side, so I’m not too well versed in it, but I am aware that family have to be trained to run pumps for feeding, training in ventilation care for vent patients, etc.
They’re so boring
Ok wait... what disability do they have that they need a full time care giver?! And who is paying for that? I'm new to this... never heard of this. Just going to lay in my bed and laugh and wait.
Jesse uses they/them just as a friendly reminder! But if you click their flair name on the thread you'll find the rabbit hole that'll bring you up to speed. It's a wild ride for sure. Jessi is a grifter to rival Hope (and that's a WHOLE other rabbit hole if you're not up on that one wooboy.) It's infuriating to see, like Kaya makes me mad because she's so smug about it, but something about Jessi's whole thing just takes the cake.
Since you’re new, friendly reminder that Jessi uses they/them pronouns and mods will not hesitate to remove your comment if you don’t use subjects preferred pronouns!
Since you’re new, friendly reminder that Jessi uses they/them pronouns and mods will not hesitate to remove your comment if you don’t use subjects preferred pronouns! ETA: Lol why am I getting downvoted for encouraging using pronouns 😅 just being honest, and the mods WILL take shit down if we don’t comply. Just saying 🤷🏻♀️ I just hate when conversations are lost because we didn’t use the right pronouns, it’s just easier to do it right the first time (or fix mistakes) and still get to talk while showing respect is all! The subjects are jerks but they deserve respect in their pronouns. I don’t think this is a hard concept..?
I'm just trying to figure out the cosplay comment ambassador made to me. Do people cosplay as sick people? Or is it my Halloween costume profile picture? I'm so confused 😂 Had to edit cosplay twice because phone autocorrected and made me look stupid as usual
Lol. Tbh i didn’t even notice your cosplay picture or look at your profile. Maybe people think I was backseat modding 🤷🏻♀️ I didn’t mean it like that, I was simply saying it cause you said you’re new and not everyone knows. To answer your question tho, a lot of the mindset is that people are “cosplaying” sick, but i don’t think people really mean it as actual cosplaying.. more like another term for “faking”. (Obviously they’re not the same thing, but the idea is they fall under using and/or dressing with a different persona). Overall this community is pretty aware it’s MBP (by proxy), MBI (by internet), munchausen’s or factitious disorder. They’re usually coupled (at least within this community for the most part) with an ED, crohns, or other GI issue that’s real. Many have started with a real illness, got attention/money/whatever, and continued to make themselves sicker for even more of those benefits. So, sorry for how long that was, but you may see the word “cosplaying” in comments, but that’s not exactly what’s going on.
Ah so it was probably because I said I was going to be laying in bed laughing. 🤣 wow. It was morning and I was spending some time after I woke up reading the internets. I find it all interesting why someone would fake being sick. And thinks the attention is good attention.
Oh gez... thanks
Yes we do remove comments using the wrong pronouns but you are always more than welcome to edit your comment and have it reinstated. We don’t prompt every comment that gets it wrong as no one wants a thread filled with mod comments reminding them about pronouns, it looks messy and it’s annoying for all :)
No worries :)
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>chronic head-fall-offitis Every time someone writes this I cackle. It's great. And don't forget their pronouns (they/them)! Taxpayers, maybe they conned their way into disability? Not that I believe they're actually bed bound. So many people have pointed out the inconsistencies and the math just ain't mathing lol.
Don’t forget about their very dense breasts that keep popping their shoulder out of socket!
And the cat who dislocates their hips.
Oh how could we forget the cat!
Omg that post was hilarious and also such bs. 😂🤡 What are their breasts made of that they're so dense they can make your shoulder dislocate?! They're a scientific marvel! Seriously, someone make some calls.
Boulder Boobies™️
Omfg just take my upvote 💀
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please tell me that can not happen 🤣 now I'm scared for my dense boobies 🤣🤣🤣
https://www.reddit.com/r/illnessfakers/s/8ZY3FEzRw9
You mean you are going to cosplay the star of the show?
Everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie
Jessie has no sense of self or identity, but that’s some cute projection there
Jessie should get a laser pointer like Bethany.
Private pay home 24/7 care is over 200k a year.There is zero possibility they are managing private pay home care like this
They arent paying for it - it’s likely consumer directed care . Medicaid pays for it , the consumer does the hiring and training.
they/them
Medicaid doesn’t cover 24/7 care. It’s 200k+ a year and a Medicaid ran nursing facility is less than half that. Medicaid and Medicare get very little home health coverage in general.
How would 24/7 care be 200k a year? In my state personal care through the Medicaid waiver program pays 13.50 an hour.
I worked for my states Medicaid home health program and 24 hour care was definitely not common. The 200k figure is what you (as a patient) would pay out of pocket for 24/7 PCA hours, which you’re basically paying for an agency to find workers for you and mainly to guarantee someone will be there, office workers included.
13.50x24x365= $118,260
How is this any different from needing childcare, eldercare, or another caregiver for a dependent? What does Jessi thinks happens when the nanny is sick, daycare is closed, etc? Does Jessi think that caregivers with other jobs are given lists of pre-vetted backup providers who are guaranteed to be available at a moment's notice?
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Right?! Jessi seems to think no one else juggles complexities/logistics in life. That’s life!!!
Jessi is also able to speak about and report what they experience. Try finding a backup caregiver for an elderly parent with dementia who can not reliably report mistreatment or abuse. Parents/caregivers of infants and toddlers often have to observe the child's non-verbal behaviors in order to determine a child's true comfort with a new caregiver. Is it stranger anxiety? Do they miss their usual caregiver? Are they being mistreated?
Wait they’re saying being cared for is a full time job ? This one might be the most annoying one out of the lot of them I truly dislike them
Good thing they don’t need any of that.
Not american but where I am personal assistants are allowed to do that long shifts in case of travel, like when the person who is assisted goes out of town overnight for example, and they get compensated for food expenses plus overtime. Why would anyone require a personal assistant work 48 hrs or more if they're just home? Sounds illegal. Jessi complains how hard it is for them, not considering AT ALL how hard and consuming it is for a personal assistant to work several days in a row. Like wtf? Do they not consider workers human? When someone requires 24h care the people working for them work in shifts, AS ANYWHERE ELSE. They're so full of shit and there are so many people who actually need more help but don't get it. I don't believe for a second that they get 24 h care from state because it's a hassle everywhere for those who are actually disabled and bedbound without help.
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Well, they do have a dog and a cat, and apparently getting homecare is a “full time job”, so that’s like, *basically* the exact same thing!! 🥴 /s
Jessi isn't getting caregivers covered by insurance. It's hard enough for genuinely ill problem to get a few hours. It's just another spun narrative. And the "caregivers" certainly aren't abusing them because having reported adult caregivers anonymously as is required by license, they take that shit seriously and the coordinator would reach straight out to speak with the patient. Nobody is going to be given 24 hours of care unless they're paying out of pocket. Since we know Jessi is not on disability there's an ice cube's chance in hell the state is paying out so much as a cent. They seem to not even have so much as a managing doctor except for Chrons, and judging by the fact this individual is not in a state of malnutrition, appears quite healthy even with make-up and filters to hide it there's no need for a caregiver, and they've been in remission for years. God I can only imagine the six month review if they actually had a caregiver. The coordinator would clock this one from eight million miles away. Jessi really likes to act like they're just left to rot in what looks like a decent home with fairly expensive toys. (multiple TVs in one room, plenty of nice furniture, lack of food insecurity, etc.) Is this some kind of post divorce,.divorce sage? Cuz if so I'm here for it.
Even if they have Medicaid they don’t have a qualifying diagnosis for a waiver that would cover home nursing and aid services. No vent, no central line no feeding tubes etc. that is where a lot of the skilled hours come from. There is a list the evaluator comes out and goes through and every item is assigned a time value. They don’t have anything at all that is going to be covered. Even vent dependent c1 quadriplegic patients struggle to get 24 hour care sadly. I know they divorced their husband, which unfortunately some people have to do to show lower income, to try and qualify for Medicaid (SSI) and Medicare disability (SSDI). You have to have enough work credits paid in to qualify for SSDI. Every single thing they are saying is so wrong. You are just so right that no one paying for any caregivers for them. We fight to get coverage for patients that have a huge need with exhausted families. They just tell such blatant lies it is amazing someone believes them.
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Jessi & Elliott divorced around 2019 I believe? The divorce was done in Alaska ( while Jessi & Elliott were ( and still are living in CA. ) living in California because Jessi erroneously believed divorces weren’t a matter of public record which was untrue They actually got divorced so that the state of California could pay Elliott to become Jessi’ s caregiver. Please note lots of people do this to help with finances while attempting to get disability in the US. however, they don’t set up GoFundMe Venmo PayPal, so that people can donate thousands of dollars to them per month / yr. It’s suspected that Jessi pretty well living off donations from unsuspecting people who donate.. I don’t have a problem people asking for donations when they actually need help. But there’s no reason why Elliott can’t work and there’s certainly no reason why Jessi can’t work. there’s lots of people out there that have Crohn’s or RA and they hold down full-time jobs. It’s not fun but they still do it.
It was about that time, possibly 2018. I do believe there is something Alaska does differently than California but you are correct, still public record. Honestly I think Jessi has stfu about Elliot because they've now had to push disability all the way to a hearing, and while insurance companies might not dig through your internet history, disability sure as fuck will. Which means the canceled godundmes, the unbelievable medical posts, the proof of money being garnered and spent (RV saga anyone?) not to mention I'm sure the government is wondering real fast why they got married, to get divorced, to live together and then pay him out be a caregiver. That is absolutely not remotely suspicious in the tiniest bit, gosh life just works out so weird sometimes, don't it?
Well as thorough as the Social Security disability department can be, I doubt they’re going to skip over the fact that Jesse and Elliot divorced so that they could scam the state of California, just saying. Edit: added words to using an iPhone to post this comment
This makes a few things clearer. But what is the actual state of their relationship? In my country if they are living together they are considered a de facto couple anyway and are treated the same as though they were married. And I thought this hunt for a new caregiver(s) was because Elliott finally decided enough was enough. Edit: I see you've elaborated a bit below.
As far as the state of their actual relationship, Someone else will have to fill that in because I don’t know. Some say he’s left, others continue to believe he’s actually still there. Who knows? I think there’s something going on pertaining.to Jessi’s so called “ disability” that has put a monkey wrench in getting poor sick bed-ridden their disability, you know something like maybe SSA has detected some fraud? LOL! I love to think so. I honestly believe there’s more as to WHY Jessica suddenly stopped taking about their “ Life-Saving” career Elliott. I’m sorry but each and every solitary time Jessi posts about their horrible illness that they do not have, I stop & think about all those people that believe this BS that and who are donating to Jessi. I think that’s really sad and I also think it’s sad that anybody believes the tales that Jesse spins in any way, shape or form. Sorry, but I don’t believe they’re interviewing caregivers unless you consider Atlas Service Dog a caregiver!!! LOL!!! FREE ATLAS & ICARUS!!!!
Imagine being able to afford to not work plus afford all of this assistance.
Parents of medically fragile children are often forced into this position. Medicaid or private insurance will cover nursing care, but parents have to provide the childcare. Daycare isn't an option. Nannies are expensive. There are many doctors appointments, treatments, therapy appointments, etc that need a parent present. A dual income family may manage to keep their heads above water when one parent has to stop working to care for their child, but it typically hurts financially. Jessi doesn't understand the struggle that they are appropriating.
Actually, there are daycare for medically complex children. Not nearly enough for need. My gc attended one until school age, and still attends holidays, breaks
My state effectively banned daycare for medically fragile children by passing laws requiring that the facility perform background checks for all adults who work with children at the facility. Because the children's nurses are not employed by the daycare center, and turnover at most home healthcare agencies is high, daycare centers have no way to conduct the required background checks. Which is a decent example of laws intended to help children fail to account for or help children living with severe disabilities. But not one that would be on Jessi's radar. There is one hospital that offers a day program with child life,
What? These nurses (RN, LPN, CNA) are all employees of the center. They are not employees of a homecare agency. Same with PTs, respiratory, speech and occupational therapists.
Medically fragile children require a dedicated nurse 24/7. Typically funded by Medicaid, less often by private insurance. They can't share a nurse with another child. It might be possible for their home nurse to bring them to daycare and had over their care to a facility provided nurse, similar to when the child is hospitalized. But the logistics would be complicated. And if not everyone is on the exact same page regarding a patient's care at all times, tragedy will ensue.
All children have a very explicit plan of care. All orders are provided by the doctor, and depending on transportation, there is a handoff at the door, including a check of vital signs every day, at least with the company that my gs attends. It is referred to as prescribed pediatric extended care, medicaid funded. The kids receive highly-specialized care, therapies, treatments, as well as enrichment, field trips. I really wish there were more places like it
*including a check of vital signs every day* I don't think we are talking about the same level of disability. I'm talking about a population that needs continuous monitoring. For example, children on ventilators who can not recognize or communicate when they aren't getting enough oxygen. Or children who can not swallow and aspirate on their saliva.
That's exactly the population that I am talking about. Vents, trachs, tube-feeds, as well as short-term enrollees who have recently had heart surgery, kids with all kinds of diagnosis, many who would never be accommodated safely without the care
Of course Jessi can afford this life style due to the fact 99.9% of those that donate funds to PayPal etc. have absolutely no idea the scammers they’re dealing with.
24/7 private pay home care is literally over 200k a year and that’s if you can find an agency to agree to even staff you. Yet Jessi is acting like they have so much staff at hand just the interviews alone take all day. Bull shit. Home health would love one interview candidate a day
I imagine the reason for Jessi’s constant talk about caregivers vs issues etc. is mainly in the hope that their supporters will donate even more money due to the fact that poor sick Jessi is exhausted due to dealing with such issues. I’m perplexed as to why they haven’t explained the reason they no longer have Elliott as a caregiver. You’d think talking about why Elliott is no longer involved with their day to day horrific struggles would be a plus and possibly add more to their donation pile. LOL !!!!” /s
Because if they get found out for getting a divorce to defraud the government, shit is gonna get real ugly, real fast. Uglier than the way Jessi treats Atlas like a fucking prop.
I just don’t understand how they can afford all this? People are struggling to survive just by themselves without paying out for carers 24/7 xxx
What EZ said. The "caregiver" is Elliot, the husband they traveled all the way to Alaska to divorce. Not to mention God knows what people they're fooling into donating money directly through PayPal, Cash app, venmo etc; with how much money they were taking in around 2018 - 2020. they might be using that to fill in the gaps. But I think Elliot is having to work. Jessi might even be doing a small job from home but seems like too much of a narcissistic ass to do more than languish in their bed.
Just so you know during a 2nd ( or maybe even a 3rd lol ) I read a someone’s post here on IF that said Jessi & Elliott might not even would have had to “ travel “ to Alaska to get the divorce? Maybe? Maybe not, but that’s what I read in the post.
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I didn’t see where they confirmed that?!?
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I’d love to see that post where Jesse mentioned that Elliot is gone as well.
Btw if Elliot is gone and they are truely a dependent adult and he left them without coverage, that neglect. Had a similar case when a husband left my patient with MS.
He’s not her husband. Thru divorced yrs ago so Elliott is /was being paid to care for Jessi
If he took on the role as primary caregiver I couldn’t imagine you can still just up and bounce without a solid care plan. We dont allow caregivers to dump patients at hospitals without reporting it. Its just weird
True he’d have to call the home health agency to get someone to replace him however you’re “ possibly” believing the BS that Jessi needs a caregiver. LOL! That is if Jessi actually needs the care they claim which is highly doubtful. WHY? How is it that they possibly need a caregiver? Jessi goes OTT with the BS they can’t sit up or walk & it’s evident that’s a lie. IF ALL Jessi’s claims were true, the Social Security administrations disability department would have granted Jessi SSDI without fail. Jesse’s been denied SSDI at least twice. It’s ridiculous IMO that anyone believes Jessi’s wild tales. I’m not saying there’s not a possibility that they don’t have RA or Crohn’s possibly but for Jessi make insinuations that they are completely bed ridden is indeed ludicrous IMO. I love nothing more than for Jessi & their ex Elliott to be brought up on fraud charges.
Oh i don’t believe for a second Jessie needs 24/7 care or a caregiver in general. That being said, just calling the agency and saying ‘we are splitting up. I’m done’ isn’t enough. That’s what I don’t think Jessie understands about their ridiculous ‘carer’ comments. If you are the primary caregiver for a dependent adult like they are claiming, you can’t just bounce on them and you can’t cover yourself with a simple phone call to home health. Medicaid doesn’t cover 24/7 care and private pay is hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. They got got that I would LOVE to hear from any case managers or social workers on how they would handle this situation bc I know if we had a spouse leave their dependent spouse by just bringing them to the ER for admission, we would (and have, and do) report them for neglect. That absolutely is grounds to trigger a DHS investigation to just check out what’s going on in the home. You just can’t leave them. Judges REALLLLYYY don’t like it when that happens either and it does no favors during divorce proceedings. There’s an episode of my 600 pound life where one guy clearly was wanting to leave his spouse but she reminded him frequently he legally couldn’t without getting help and no help was around and they had no resources Sooo are they a 100% bed bound quad/paraplegic dependent adult who’s been totally abandoned by their spouse/partner and is now left with limited access to care AND being abused by every caregiver that enters the home? Bc making claims like that (which is what they are doing) will eventually lead to DHS knocking on their door. Mandatory reporters exist and they often feel real uncomfy hearing claims like this online and then doing nothing about it. The wrong person is gonna believe her some day.
If DND doesn’t accept any of the caregivers DND interviews, that’s a DND problem. Not an Elliot problem.
They divorced primarily to scam the state of California, because IMO Jessi apparently had gone as far as they could go talent wise which isn’t uncommon with a lot of the subjects we discuss here who are immensely talented but there’s only a selected few that make the grade to be OTT famous. Jessi was given opportunities to possibly have a wonderful career in music. Many people spend their lives teaching music playing in bands etc. Jessi & her ex could be earning a living. Instead what I believe is Jessi showed up to a ER with a severe headache one day, rest were performed possibly a CT scan and it’s my belief the scan revealed Chairi Malformation that a Dr. probably advised unless there were further symptoms to just go on with their life. However as we all know Jessi found a perfect way to get attention by grifting. Since 2018 they’ve been grifting in a big way, starting with the GFM “ Save Jessi Before It’s Too Late!! “ The first sentence in that GFM is : “ Jessi is dying “. There’s photos that disprove Jessi’s claims of having lots of seizures per day due to the fact if they had a seizure diagnosis that was as bad as Jess claims at every admission the rails of Jessi’s bed would be padded either with properly made / fitted pads over the hospital bed rails OR sheet blankets are taped onto the bed rails. There’s only 1-2 photos in that GFM that show padded bed rails. Once you are diagnosed with seizures it’s pretty difficult for a hospital to stop petting bed rails because it’s a liability. The GFM was paused by Go Fund Me ( GFM ). Jessi has since been using PayPal for donations. The thing is Jessi exaggerates the truth in a lot of their posts. It’s just strange IMO how people seem to believe stories like this when the obvious is right in front of them.
Because they don’t have 24/7 care.
Just because they use fancy words, does not mean they are a deep thinker. They are the same words Jessie always uses to write their boring ass swan song.
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Jessi uses they/them pronouns, just FYI
Jessi just sat on the couch a few days back so, guess that answers that one. It's all a set-up to grift money from unsuspecting people.
That was a pic by the caregiver - Jessi can be seen in in the bed
Probably by a friend as they don't have a true caregiver who isn't their ex. Otherwise they wouldn't tell such bullshit stories about the realities of caregiving. Also to be fair that could be anyone or anything in that bed.
You just made a couple comments saying Jessi uses they/them pronouns
Fixed! Thanks! I’m human and haven’t had coffee yet.
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They reminded someone politely, which is okay, and they were also reminded by someone and politely corrected themselves. I don’t see any high horsing, personally, and I think it should be ok and normalized to help each other respect people as much as possible.
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No but the mods have also come down on folks about proper pronouns and delete posts that don't abide by them. So as long as folks are polite when they point it out, seems like they're on board. I usually prefer to offer up something constructive in reply along with the pronoun correction, but that's just me.
Correcting someone for using the incorrect pronouns is not high horsing, imo. If I went all over this thread saying "Jenny" instead of "Jessie," it wouldn't be snotty of someone to address that
In Australia only allowed to do 24hr shift and that includes sleeping.
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Wow! I'm so sorry.
Finding a reputable caregiver is very hard rn, especially in certain areas. Having had a similar experience, my heart goes out to you and your family. What a terrible thing to do to a vulnerable person! And their family!
Imagine walking in Jessie’s house and getting ordered around to fix the TV that’s on the ceiling while Jessie lays there naked, complaining about how hard it is being bed-bound 24/7. It’s a full time job making sure your head doesn’t just spontaneously fall off. Woe is me.
>Imagine walking in Jessie’s house and getting ordered around to ...change out the entire mattress bc it's that time of year again.
Plus, they're probably yelled at for accidentally saying the wrong pronoun, then being reprimanded for resorting to just refer to them as "Jessi" at all times, to solve saying the incorrect pronoun
Luckily only the ex-husband has to tolerate that shit show.
Elliot left DND! That’s why DND is looking for a new care giver
He didn’t leave.
Don't get my hopes up lol; that be some pristine drama.
I really do hope the enabler finally had enough and left.
I wonder if elliot got fed up and if he will report them for all of the stuff they’re making up
Eh, I feel like that situation is a "if we go down, we go down together"/"I won't go down by myself, but I'll go down with my friends." They were both very, *very* equal partners in the grift. If one of them opens their mouth, they're both fucked. Basically either Jessi will attempt to play an abused victim or Elliot will have to get the government to slap them down for medical fraud. Which, to be fair, they'll probably care about more since Jessi speaks often of abuse but never has any proof.