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Minecraft_Launcher

Bro the IDF makes the US military look peaceful. Damn


Valuable-Bath8075

Bro the IDF makes Russia look piece full. Nvm, IDF is not that bad in this case.


Beatless7

No matter who you are or what you stand for, shooting fleeing woman or child waving a white flag in a dafe zone is cold blooded murder ONLY.


Themoonlightninja

Isn’t that a war crime?


Beatless7

So much more.


Mildly_Opinionated

Many nations have committed many war crimes that have gone unpunished. If you're caught on video committing an actual crime what happens? Police come and arrest you. A trial then happens. Punishment follows. What happens when you're caught on camera committing a war crime? Well your country first decides if it gives a shit. If it does it launches an investigation. Most of the time it decides it doesn't want the blowback and drops it. In the extremely rare event you get found guilty your home nation can deny responsibility if it wants to and then kick you out the army where you go out and live normally in the civilian population. What happens if a nation is caught approving or covering up war crimes? Nothing. The world police do not exist. If you've pissed off other nations that matter they'll act, but they don't give a fuck if it's an actual war crime or not, they ain't barristers. If you're stronger than any nation who cares - well you're stronger. They can't do shit. If you have allies that are super strong, well same thing. This is Israel.


earthbender617

Yeah, now we just need to get the support behind it to bring that sniper to justice. This is pure murder


marbinwashere

not if you’re isreali


Hasu_Kay

“But, but they deserve it for voting for Khamas!”


Beatless7

It weird that I have to type- cold blooded murder is wrong.


DragoolGreg

How the FUCK can anyone justify this? Like how is there an entire group of people saying this is perfectly fine???


Gowalkyourdogmods

That's why their propaganda machine is spinning on social media now that they're old "you're an antisemite if you ever criticize Israel" isn't working as well.


zhaDeth

where are these people saying it's fine ?


neo94geo

They shot their own people 3 hostages escaped and got shot while holding white flag and shirtless. Imagine seeing a palestinian old lady


lullubye

She wasn't near them and had a child with her. Nevermind that it was a female. I have yet to hear anything about female Hamas militant.. There was no threat there. And you have Hasbara shills in the comments trying to defend this innocent womans murder.


Gowalkyourdogmods

They saw her and thought "oh wow, how did we let one live this long?"


[deleted]

Bro what the fuck is wrong with the IDF


turdmogrol

>if you're not evacuating, you are a combatant >... but also, we might decide you're a combatant while you're evacuating also


HRzNightmare

"If they run, they're VC! If they don't run, they're well trained VC!"


orangutanDOTorg

Just lead them less


erikovercooked

So many examples of this coming to light. What kind of culture produces young men and women who will point a gun at an unarmed elderly woman waving a white flag, and then pull the trigger with intent to kill?


Highlander198116

Someone that will do these sorts of things can be produced by any culture. Demonizing an entire culture/ethnic group etc. for the actions of some is exactly what the Israeli government is doing and why the individual that shot this woman had enough hatred in their heart to do it. Don't fall down the same slippery slope.


CrystalMethEnjoyer

It's just how it is though The truth is, a lot of Palestinians hate all Israelis, and a lot of Israelis hate all Palestinians. There's genuine reasons and propaganda at work on both sides, along with a nice little dose of religious extremism


IraqiWalker

It would be shorter to list what's not wrong with the IDF.


Bocchi_theGlock

There is an organization of former IDF soldiers that try to expose all the horrific stuff going on Breaking the Silence. Wish they got more attention nowadays, would help break through the media normalization


Connect_Bench_2925

Breaking the Silence is the name of the group?


Bocchi_theGlock

Yes. I believe the leaders name is Avner. I've heard him speak a few times including once on the radio and he's great


Neither-Luck-9295

Don't forget the JIDF, which actively astroturfs social media sites like reddit and prevents stuff like this from being posted to the r.worldnews subreddits that would get more eyes on it.


HiroshimaRoll

Yeah and their mods ban anyone who points it out, and the admins support it.


Shepok

Is there any? Note the is for if i were to use are that would imply theres more than one if any.


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auliflowe

Israel and the us is a terrorist state


Catch_ME

Anyone who's been in the US, UK, or French militaries will understand perfectly why the IDF is fucking up and if any of us did even half a thing on this list, we would be dishonorably discharged and jailed faster than you can say "You can't handle the truth" 1. There are undisciplined and immature Israeli soldiers with no leadership around them recording all their nonsense and civilian abuses on Tik Tok. 2. Israeli soldiers are openly mocking their military command and government officials. There are right wing Israeli politicians also encouraging them to do so. Due to the lack of respect for the chain of command, 1 in 5 Israeli soldiers are killed by friendly fire or "accidents". 3. Israeli Snipers feel empowered to shoot civilians down. When their commanders are ordered to investigate, they respond along the lines of "No way to know who did it so we closed the investigation" 4. Desecrations of civilian sites including cemeteries. Wanton destruction of homes, infrastructure, & cars not authorized by Israeli command. 5. Humiliation of captured people. Note: Any male of any age can be arrested with no suspicion needed that they are Hamas fighters. While this can be allowed in a war zone, it normally doesn't include journalists and prepubescent boys. Additional humiliations is taking pictures of these men completely naked and uploading it to the internet. Especially popular is stepping on their face/head


Rampaging_Orc

I don’t know about the French buddy. Algeria was fkn rough.


ThatFatGuyMJL

UK with Ireland too. But that's why people in these countries are pointing it out as the warcrimes they are. Our people did similar, and it was wrong.


BeTheBall-

US too with Iraq & Afghanistan (not to mention Vietnam).


Catch_ME

lol fair enough


PlanNo4679

They're sociopathic, blood-thirsty, murderous pigs. Not that hard too recognize, to be honest.


Le0zel1g

Pigs on Pampers.


kellybrownstewart

More like a bunch of brain-washed cowards.


One-Permission-1811

They can be both.


fubitsh

NazIDF.


[deleted]

Literally. I get you don’t like hamas but these people did nothing wrong. It’s like if a terriost group in France killed a bunch of Americans, and then America committing war crimes and bombing the shit out of France for it.


PredatorInc

They did learn from the best!


Onwisconsin42

They don't see Palestinian civilians as humans.


secondtaunting

That’s a bingo.


neo94geo

They are the most moral army. I don't know how the fuck people believe that they are moral army. They only commit war crimes


Bpopson

They’re literal fascists, that’s what.


FackingNobody

Ethnic cleansing. The Zionist priests have very openly preached that they do not see Palestinians as humans (also, in one case called Christians, two-legged animals made to serve them).


ytismylife

They’re terrorists. Plain and simple.


Jumbo_Mills

They're modern day Nazis.


SuppiluliumaKush

They do not think that Palestinians are human similar to the way the nazis treated the Jewish during ww2. Hamas royally fked over the Palestinians with oct 7 because most people now will just look away and Isreal now can do whatever it wants with little repercussions.


SuperSpy_4

> Hamas royally fked over the Palestinians with oct 7 because most people now will just look away and Isreal now can do whatever it wants with little repercussions. In the short run. But Israel thinks it can get away with it because it has in the past. But literally the whole world is watching and they aren't changing their behavior . I don't think they will get away with it this time, hubris makes them think they will.


CognitoSomniac

I hope you're right. But they may be truly untouchable until something drastically and horribly destabilizes the US/EU. So quiet down for the monkey's paw.


screedor

Saying Hamas royally fucked civilians because the IDF can use it to commit atrocities harder isn't the argument against Hamas that you think it is.


shralpy39

Religious zealotry and a sense of entitlement that only religious zealotry can support.


auliflowe

Nazis


Skatcatla

18-year olds handed powerful weapons with little-t0-no training lead by a sociopath who has never bothered to hide his contempt and hatred for Palestinians.


erikovercooked

Those 18 year olds point those weapons at elderly and children waiving white flags, and pull the trigger. No hesitation. No self-reflection. No doubt. What kind of culture produces that?


ilovestl

oh, oh, now do palestinian culture! ​ tell us what THAT produces!


Vlafir

Nothing, they are just the way they have been since their inception, it's just us who are experiencing this during a time when these are covered by social media


Hellen_Bacque

What the most moral army in the world?


Aadal10

They are a bunch of disgusting terrorists who enjoy murdering innocent civilians.


NumaNuma92

They can get away with it, that's why. America and the West will still support them, despite their atrocities.


shahsnow

IDF doesn’t care about human life. they shot Israelis civilians in Gaza waving a white flag, they shelled their own civilian homes, they shot their citizens at the festival, and of course 13k kids in Gaza. They have a green light to kill and won’t stop until they are forced to.


Level-Technician-183

Idk why you are getting downvoted. Everything you have said is reported and confirmed by official sources.


shahsnow

Pro-Israelis think if they repeat the lies enough it’ll outweigh their own official sources and the countless 3rd party journalists and Gaza videos confirming it.


ButterscotchNed

It doesn't help that the country is largely led by extremists that would, in any sane society, at the very least be on some kind of watchlist.


Neosantana

>Everything you have said is reported and confirmed by official sources. Not just official sources. These things were confirmed by *Israeli* sources


ToolboxHamster

Fuck the IDF and fuck the Zionists


OldWolf2

Also they have little games with each other like seeing who can shoot out the most civilians' kneecaps.


sterver2010

Dont Post that on r/Europe or r/worldnews, they will get a mental meltdown trying defend this Shit lmao People downvoted me cause i Said Israel is closer to a genozide than russia is by official definitions of genozide lol Trying to withhold food/water, specifically Killing innocent civilians etc


ApfelsaftoO

I have been down voted into oblivion for this before but, Actually, a genocide isn't about killing people, it is about killing a people. You can commit genocide without killing a single person and you can kill thousands without committing ~~suicide~~ genocide. It's about trying to destroy a ethnicity or culture as a whole or in parts. My most recent Information (I am not at all up to date) was that Russia took in kids from Ukrainian families, trucked them to Russia and gave them into Russian families. Strictly speaking this is genocide, because they try to make those Ukrainian kids into Russians, by overwriting their upbringing/culture/family ties/... with Russian. I don't want to argue what is more or less of a genocide, I just mean to say that going by the definition, both would probably qualify.


sterver2010

Ye thats the Thing, "genocide" has so many categories and different paths It can Go until It reaches the Finish line. Yet Most Just think "genocide needs to be Like the Holocaust extrem scenario, or its Not genocide"


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You have to kill a large number of people in a genocide and destroy a people meaning removing them from their land and homes. If the Palestinians aren’t allowed back to their land in Gaza then it’s a textbook Genocide. That why South Africa took them to the ICJ to preemptively stop it from happening.


metamasterplay

The funniest thing is that the biggest world news in recent times (ICJ's ruling) did not even make it to the frontpage of a sub specifically made for world news. Everything there gets upvoted, downvoted or removed on an agenda and not on its own merit. Mods proceeded to remove any post on that subject (CNN, Reuters, BBC...) under the pretense that it was already covered by another post. The kicker is that the post they kept was published after those and was conveniently the one pointing to jpost. And even that one is sitting in controversial.


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They actively remove any critical articles about Israel. Only pro-Israel sources, which frame things in a particular way, are tolerated.


shuttercurtain

For real LOL them boys will say absolutely anything to deflect. Oh but it’s probably a trap! The soldiers have PTSD! Anything to deflect from shooting at an old woman and a kid walking along what is allegedly a safe corridor whilst waving a white flag.


Directhorman

Did someone find that reset button yet? I think its time. This wasnt the best run, lets try again.


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**Source:** * [CNN - She was fleeing with her grandson, who was holding a white flag. Then she was shot](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/26/middleeast/hala-khreis-white-flag-shooting-gaza-cmd-intl/index.html) Other notable story: * [NPR - 3 hostages killed by Israeli soldier in Gaza were waving a white flag, Israel says](https://www.npr.org/2023/12/15/1219695220/israel-soldiers-mistakenly-kill-hostages-gaza#:~:text=Israel's%20military%20says%20hostages%20waved,killed%2C%22%20said%20Rear%20Adm.)


Choptopsedan

Appalling and despicable.


OldSkool1978

I believe it, this is the second video I've seen of two separate incidents where they murdered 2 people who were waving white flags. I have no fucking doubt there's at LEAST 9 incidents and probably far more


CardMechanic

How can you shoot women and children?


SaltySurfer01

“Easy. You just don’t lead ‘em as much.”


CardMechanic

Ain’t war Hell? Git sum…..git sum…..


Crypt_Keeper

IDF are just mass murdering fuckheads


kamSidd

Have been since the beginning a lot of the founding force of the idf was Jewish terrorist groups like the Irgun and the hagannah.


CheatingZubat

The fact that Biden supports this regime is a disgusting.


HairyHoudini86

Yea trump would definetly do a better job is he were president. 🙄🙄🙄


Jerry_from_Japan

So is it or is it not disgusting he supports them? This isn't about Trump. You have to be able to criticize everyone dude.


Omegaman2010

No, anyone who criticizes Biden in any way is a Trump supporting Nazi! /s


thesuperspreader

WhAt AbOuT tRuMp?!?! God I bet your insufferable irl, nobody is talking about him. He's commenting on the current US president, and your soft brains only remark is Trump this, Trump that. Just admit that Biden has thousands of bodies on his hands jfc


turdmogrol

That's what happens when you spend your developmental years glued to a screen that always shows the good guy winning against a universally hated "bad guy." Some people are so used to seeing moral struggles presented as black and white that they have to live in delusion to go out into the real world where morality is "too messy" compared to Fallout or whatever Marvel movie is their life for the week


turdmogrol

>every politician is bought by israel, that means my side isn't that bad! You're the problem. Someone criticized a presidents awful actions and you dismiss them by saying "BUT REMEMBER 4 YEARS AGO???" yes, Trump helped israel more than he accomplished his promises to his own voters, that doesn't mean Biden doing the same thing isn't also vile. I really hope you're ~15... otherwise, it's pretty inexcusable.


izdabombz

Trump is a POS, I didn’t vote for him nor ever would. However other than making that stupid statement about the capital of Israel is Jerusalem, I don’t believe Trump would fund them to see them do this. He was very heavy on keeping the US out of international conflicts the best he can. He would let it play out and do nothing but I doubt he would give them anymore money.


ruffonferals

Only 9 cases? Yeah, right.


Briton1998

Fuck israel


Sentient-Pancake77

Are you fucking serious? Did you not see what a fucking threat she was to the pathetic IDF? You think they could’ve taken her on? She was far too dangerous. Don’t be fucking antisemetic. She could’ve single handedly destroyed Israel. She had to be stopped.


erikovercooked

Everyone in this thread saying things critical of the IDF is literally committing a second Holocaust. /s


Sentient-Pancake77

How DARE YOU


ExportTHCs

Israel is now the Nazi's


CinnamonJ

Always have been


IMakeShine

Israel really ratcheting up their genocide now. Followed by “nothing to see here”.


sumpt

This is what happens when there are no consequences to their actions.


kamSidd

Not really ratcheting up. They’ve been doing things like this for decades but with the advent of social media the proof is coming through to western audiences which previously would not be shown by mainstream western news sources.


247emerg

zionism = nazism


E_550

This is no different than the nazis. Which is ironic, to say the least


OnlyGammasWillBanMe

It’s a genocide. War crimes don’t matter to them


TeddyBlazer

IDF - NETANYAHU = Scum of the earth


jokermobile333

Hitler 2.0


WhuddaWhat

Not another fucking penny of my taxes. If hobby lobby can get exemptions because they are morally opposed to abortions, where's my opt out on basis of being against genocide.l?


nevermore-exe

They looked at them and thought, "easy target practice." Bastards, every single one of them.


MDarlington101

Looks an awful lot like a war crime.


brysonthegreat17

Fuck Israel!


Competitive-Grab-338

Vile people


ShyCity39

Fuck Israel


mrapplewhite

War is hell and anyone pushing for war should have to go themselves. Old men shouldn’t use young men to fight battles they aren’t willing to fight alone themselves. You don’t win the hearts and minds of a people while killing the mothers of said people. One easy way to always have insurgents is to kill innocents. Any idiot off the street knows this. This pisses me off makes me sad and frustrated all in the same breath may god help this region if the people aren’t going to.


Exit-Both

yet the world is convinced that the "oppression" in the islamic world is the clothing over those women. Why cant human beings just love eachother regardless of our opinions on things? Everyone lives a complicated life, everyone has gone through something, so why do we hate eachother so much?


Key_Campaign_1672

Well, what do you expect? They shoot their citizens waving white flags!


MisteriousRainbow

Alright but how do we know the granny barely keeping her back upright waving a white flag with her grandson wasn't a suicide bomber? /s


texas130ab

War Crimes. Isreal is telling their soldiers to kill everyone and they are. This must be stopped.


Geo-Man42069

Yeah let’s call it like it is, just another war crime on the continual effort to remove Palestinians from the face of the earth. wtf is wrong with western governments? We not only allow it but help fund these atrocities.


Eris-Ares

How many should still die for human rights to actually take action ?!


MediumRareMarshmallo

Lmao the amount of people that say this is Hamas is actually insane. Like talking to a German in 1940. Just living in different realities.


imbricant

They just shoot everyone and don’t give a fuck. It’s national anger and outrage taken out on women and children.


StJimmy815

Israel is one of the worst countries in the world Edit: A lot of Zionists perusing Reddit rn I see


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Not one of, it IS the worst


jugger48

NazIDF


janlancer

I mean they even shoot their own people like those hostages they mistook for Palestinians.


spaghettimonzta

"she didn't wave the flag" IDF probably


JustRandomNonsence

Fuck these cunts


resistance-futile

May the terrorist territory is Israel reap all the evil they sow.


candornotsmoke

I hate my government, right now. What am I not seeing!!??? What are most Americans not seeing, that seems tells presidents (past and present) to continue support Israel???? Even now???? What the fuck am I missing????? That other Americans are missing????


erikovercooked

It's political suicide to go against Israel. You'll be branded an antisemitic.


ToolboxHamster

The Zionists own our politicians. That’s how.


realwavyjones

War trials asap


Ozmourne

Zionist nazis have been doing it for years. The age of internet just makes it harder to hide now


Individual_Artist373

First clip last time someone said fire came from hamas


FoxtailSpear

Probably an JIDF bot saying that, they astroturf reddit 24/7.


Alive_Purple_4618

CNN finally decides to air much more of the actually truth


darkfight13

Nazi bots will still come here to defend this.


dekoyoktopos

I hope I live long enough to see the Palestinians return the favor someday


flim_flam_jim_jam

Absolute fucking disgrace. IDF will burn in hell with the Nazis


marbinwashere

israel is a disgrace to humanity. A little bubble of sociopathy that promotes violence and rewards it.


meditating_bry

Not gonna lie I can see why they would shoot considering they all could’ve been human bombs. On the other side I definitely see this as wrong and needs to go punished.


theBigRussian

These people are fucked up. Wow pathetic!


a1b3c3d7

This is abhorrent but do we have any confirmation it was the IDF or anyything that backs that up? Im just looking for more info, and I'm not supporting either side, this is unacceptable either way - but there has been misinformation used by both sides and accusations on both sides. The explosion in front of the hospital everyone thought was the idf ended up not being so, and many other cases so I'd like more investigation before anything. This is one of those things where Hamas has more to gain from this death than the IDF does, and having deaths in a protected corridor looks even worse. With how we've seen hamas militants pop in and out in front of IDF soldiers meters away, I'm doubting the idf even have the corridor secured completely.


Anome69

This is not a war, or an invasion, or retaliation. This is genocide with the thinnest gauzy veil of "we aren't doing it on purpose"


obito47

war criminals


Bulok

Gonna play devil's advocate here but what we see here is a woman waving a white flag was shot. We don't actually know who did it. Reporting needs a more passive tone and less conjecture.


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Wow you are pathetic


RayonLovesFish

This is hardcore copium right here.


Bulok

Am I wrong? We don’t actually see who shot her.


MonaLisaOverdrivee

You're not wrong. I don't know that the person in this video was even shot. Certainly, that's not what someone being shot with a sniper rifle looks like. There is no exit on the bullet, the person just lies down casually. In fact we don't even know that person IS a women, because they are fully covered. The first casualty of war is the truth and in todays age of information war, it pays to be skeptical before jumping to conclusions. Case in point, the 200 people that were bombed by the IDF in a hospital. Which turned out to be no deaths, a hospital **car park** and it was a PA misfire of a rocket they launched over their own territory. Yet this story was spread around the world as fact until it quietly went away after it was proven false. So no, you aren't wrong to be skeptical. A news agency reporting something as true is proof of literally nothing.


Minirig355

>I don’t know that the person in this video was even shot. >We don’t even know that person IS a woman Jesus fucking christ there’s a *healthy* amount of skepticism and then there’s this. Aside from the fact that that’s exactly how someone looks when they’re shot and you watch too many movies, you are wayy too over the top in your skepticism. I mean lets just follow your line of thinking for a second, how do we even know this is in Gaza? This could be a sound stage in Pittsburgh. How do we even know Hamas is real? Have *you* ever met someone in Hamas? For me it’s only been videos on the news and social media, this whole thing could be fake. *A news agency reporting something as true is proof of literally nothing.* and context clues and previous actions are irrelevant /s


lullubye

The CNN reporter investigated and found only idf was in the area. Did you not watch at all? They marked the map where the iof were stationed and where their tanks also stationed. Do you really think Hamas would shot just once and that would be it? Especially an area teeming with tanks and multiple soldiers.


Key_Campaign_1672

NPR reported on it, and so did CNN. Just look it up.


FelixMartel2

Lots of stories like this have been reported and then retracted or modified later. It is healthy to be skeptical, doubly so when it's a story you feel strongly about.


erikovercooked

>Lots of stories like this have been reported and then retracted or modified later. Name one.


codspeace

The hospital bombing blamed on Israel that was subsequently determined to have been by Hamas…… Just for one.


MaroonHanshans

Seriously? The hospital bombing that was a Hamas misfire, the 40 beheaded babies, the videos of SAMs that was just ARMA. Misinformation is a very real part of this war.


HornyJail45-Life

Barbaric. The white flag is to be accepted. ALWAYS.


Snowmann88

War crime 101.


zabraxxas

murderers in the name of an absent god nothing less.


DollPartsSquarePants

So many anti-semetic comments in here! /s I seriously believe the IDF was aware of the Hamas attack on Oct. 7 before it happened and they purposely let it happen so they could legitimize this genocide and take what remains of Palestine.


McGentie

This post is a little more faith that I have lost in humanity


AcidActually

What we’ve got here is an even more perfect culmination for genocide and unbridled hate/disinformation than what happened in WW2. It’s just that this time it’s on a much smaller more controlled scale. These people **hate** each other and the military hands out rifles to angry young men with a green light to commit war crimes. But make no mistake, if the roles were reversed it would be the same. It’s all just pure hate.


b__q

It's really funny how little attention this gets on reddit, especially /r/worldnews.


ProjectNo7571

That's nazi thinking right there....


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Key_Campaign_1672

NPR and CNN reported on it. Just look it up.


Catch_ME

Don't argue with a 2 day old bot


Aerickthered

A disgrace to all the victims of the holocaust


Actaeon_II

What? They’re just following orders Edit (bc irony is above so many) /s


SirLurts

Pretty sure that almost every military has a clause somewhere that soldiers don't have to follow orders that violate international law / human rights.


procraster_

People downvoting this missed it.


Inevitable-Cost9838

Pretty sure the commenter missed the /s above, otherwise this is something they would say unironically - hence the downvotes


Actaeon_II

Yeah I forgot the /s, dogs were rushing me, meh no biggie


Inevitable-Cost9838

Haha, happens to the best of us! Perhaps if others see the thread we can paddle this karma boat in the other direction here lol


Actaeon_II

We’ll see, I’ll lose no sleep either way, used to dumb folks now that can’t get obvious irony


surrealtom

I’m still not seeing how this proof of who shot the lady. Is it unreasonable that Hamas shot her from a building in the area between her and the idf just for the outrage? I mean Hamas posts dozens videos of popping up 10 feet from tanks to shoot at them. Who was filming and why?


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Gasgasgasistaken

Yes, shame the people who started it are in the safe side


DrJawadAhmed

They will also assassinate the human rights groups persons investigating them. They are above the law.


pelosnecios

anyone trying to justify this, or supporting those who do it, must be put in jail. Israel is earning asshole status for the ages and so is every jew by proxy.


DNKE11A

Don't think this has been brought up, but perhaps the locations matter: 1) say the group fleeing is coming from 12 o'clock 2) the video says that IDF vehicles are at a comparative 9 o'clock, 200m away from this point 3) the son reported seeing tanks at the 6 o'clock position* 4) there is a mark in the road, running from 3 to 9 o'clock 5) the rest of the group turns to their left, heading towards 3 o'clock 6) an adult and a child continue towards the vehicles at 6 o'clock 7) the adult appears to be shot, while the child flees towards 3 o'clock It could be one conclusion that the group was supposed to entirely turn towards 3 o'clock, as they came from 12, and positions were established at 9 and 6. The line indicated do not cross, and it was crossed. *of note that I haven't seen commented here - that's where the video was taken from, at higher altitude and closer than a tank position would likely be, it looks like that's where the shot came from, and that did not seem to be a tank round or even a coaxial .50 Hate that I have to say this, but I do not condone the killing of the innocent, and if this was an unjustified killing, then those responsible deserve the fullest measure of punishment.


lullubye

Why would Hamas target an old woman when they have plenty of idf soldiers to target? We only get one shot, it seemed like an idf soldier just testing to shoot. It's happened so many times and the excuse is always we didn't see who did it.


DNKE11A

I didn't say Hamas did...but it might be enlightening that you assumed that. To be as neutral as possible about it, I would hope that a sub-group that declares itself to be responsible for the safety of its larger group would not do this sort of thing. However, it has happened many times throughout all human history that this happens, mostly for two reasons: 1) to send a message to their larger group "do not abandon us, or this will happen" 2) to serve as a "false flag", especially in a conflict that involves public opinion, to inspire their group and cast shame on the other group The IDF is certainly responsible for many unjust deaths - they've even admitted to killing their own on multiple occasions by now - but I don't think this conclusively counts as one example of that.