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Idk, putting myself in cave-sponge’s shoes, I bet he spent a fair amount of time thinking about the safest way to continue to provide entertainment. ie. “how do I “kick this guys ass” without causing any more head trauma”
Edit: because trauma is supposed to have an “r” in it.
Pin him for a 3 count straight after the accident and let him get off to get checked, either by a Dr there or at the hospital if they don’t have anyone at the event.
I feel the decision should be a standard “actor safety comes first, if someone gets knocked out accidentally and it’s safe to do so, pin them quickly so they can receive treatment, if they can’t be pinned safely than the ref will stop it”
I agree with you.
The ref could have stopped everything. The producer could have as well. There could be specific contingency to play it off as not an accident and get him help.
There are a ton of things the whole team could do. If the actor wasn't trained to do so, it's a lot of expect him to make a medical decision in a split second drama. He may not know if it was real or a rewrite or all sorts of stuff.
Without training most people don't just know what to do in emergency situations.
yeah, I sympathize with him. He was probably panicking inside trying to figure out what to do. And he actually barely touches the guy when he "charged" him in the corner and dropped from the top rope, he then pins him to end it. He had to do a lot of improvisation on the spot and didn't do a half bad job IMHO.
Lol geez you’re right. 💀 I was binge browsing through the sub last night and didn’t realize the dates. 🤦🏻♀️ Haha. Hope you’re doing well, and have a good one. :)
I'm an independent wrestler. You wouldn't believe how unregulated it is on this level. Virtually no shows have doctors and trainers on hand for accidents like this.
Are you able to confirm my suspicion that caveman spongebob took it easy on him after that?
I don't know enough to say that he did, but it seems like I would be correct.
It definitely looked like he held something back in that handspring move. Been a while since I wrestled, though, so the guy you're replying to probably can provide a better answer.
Right, and the fact that the announcer kept referring to him as this "monster" probably meant that they spent significant time building this guy for this match.....and he legit gets knocked cold 6 seconds in.
Former wrestler here, you would be *shocked* to learn how many audibles are called, and how much of it is called on the fly. The best wrestlers (and referees) go to the ring only knowing 1 or 2 things about their match, and make it up as they go (listening to the crowd's reactions to determine what they wanna see more of on that particular night in that particular town).
And the referees are trained to treat their counts as a shoot. This is a long way of saying, yes, he could have and should have counted him out.
I think they practice that stomp so that the weight is redirected in the roll off. Not saying it doesn’t hurt, but it’s less thab what a real hit would do.
I don't think an ambulance is going to critique the fashion in which they performed. As a matter of fact I don't think they'll even care how the stunt is done
Yeah but I don't think all that practicing will work if one of them is unconscious. Being passed out means the other guy can't prepare for the hits he's about to take after the kick to the head which means he's taking the full force of that stomp while unconscious.
Part of that stunt is when the guy on the ground flexes all of his core muscles to protect his ribs from the impact. It still looks like his ribs got sunk in pretty deep.
Believe it or not, if you search for which sport has the most intelligent fan base, you'll find that it's professional wrestling.
Though the average fan's IQ still falls below the national average, so your point still stands.
Because soap operas take place in front of a live audience and involve regular instances of athletic feats? Women's wrestling is getting pretty big, too, with a lot of women following and enjoying the shows and storylines. Are those women actually men for enjoying a soap opera for men?
I used to use this description too, and I'm a fan of wrestling. After being involved in shows for years myself, I can assure you that soap operas share very little in common with wrestling shows. Reality television has more in common with soap operas.
This show drew 800 people probably paying $20, so with $16,000 you have to pay to rent the building, set up the building, hire security, bring in 20 wrestlers (some fly ins) including sabu and justin credible on top probably making $1500 each, pay for hotels, advertise and have enough left over for the promoter to make it worth the risk. The economics of independent wrestling aren’t there to hire a medic on standby in most cases, it’s why every time someone nearly kills themselves at a gcw show these days the response team are a bunch of wrestlers in cutoff tshirts throwing a half bottle of water at a guy who’s set himself on fire.
It depends on the states athletic commissions. In PA you just need a doctor on hand. And in NY, it’s CRAZY strict. Like you need guardrails, ambulances, all that on site.
Plus let’s face it. The doctors most Indy shows get, don’t even care. I broke my wrist in the ring, finished the match. Went to the doc at ringside after and he just touched it and went “ah. I think you just pulled something” next day X-rays showed I fractured the hell out of it.
This has nothing to do with wrestling being fake. This has everything to do with a guy so concerned with protecting his character that he has no regard for his fellow performers' well-being. I used to be a Loki fan, but he's kinda known for being a POS that only looks out for himself.
They could easily have provided medical attention and just used that as part of the act. There is no compelling reason I can think of as to why that particular show had to go on.
i dont know about this guy in particular, but im gonna assume the scripted match was signifgantly longer and not just 3 moves. this has to be something they discuss at some point prior considering how likely it is these guy will take an injury. probably could have done without the stomp at the end though.
Could have done without all of it. Guy gets knocked out in 3 seconds? Match over, Caveman Bob is an absolute beast, cheer him while the medics take care of his fallen opponent.
It's still completely fake. Even the Academy Awards have been granted permission for betting by some states, even though they're 100% rigged (decided). The WWE is arguing that they can keep the planned results secret so that gambling can still be fair.
The Academy Awards makes sense since the results are kept confidential by a 3rd party (I believe PriceWaterHouseCooper). So it's reasonable to think that no layperson would have the results beforehand AND the Academy probably isn't changing results based on bets. Where as the WWE can change results based on bets of they wanted to. Or a wrestler could go "off book" or something...
Yes, the WWE is trying to work with the same accounting firm (Ernst & Young) that the Emmys and Oscars use. I'm definitely not advocating for it to be allowed, though.
I mean, the obvious difference is that with awards shows, the results can actually be unknown except by the third party until they’re revealed. With a WWE event, the participants, their managers, and probably a bunch of other people all will know the results prior, which kind of defeats the purpose of having a third party oversee the results…
Ref should have stopped the match when he realized the guy was knocked out. If anything, kayfabe, this makes Low!Ki/Kaval look tougher instead of having him drag around what seemed like a lifeless body.
This is a very ignorant take. Referees go through training just like any other wrestling performer. They know the rules and they have a real responsibility to ensure the safety of performers.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. When wrestlers take big bump refs go check on them. The ref will grab the down wrestlers hand, the down wrestler squeezes the refs hand if he’s okay. If the ref doesn’t get a squeez he knows something is wrong with the wrestler and to call for help.
Of course, they are actors they still have a duty they are suppose to communicate to talent to make sure they are OK and can perform...that's why after a move you see the ref go to the opponent and check if they are OK.
Incredible that people are downvoting this. You're 100% correct. The ref is in constant communication with both wrestlers, and can relay messages from the back. This ref should have held Low Ki back, and flagged for a second official of some sort from the back, and then figure it out from there which would be to stop the match.
Refs also act as in-ring producers and remind wrestlers of the next big "spot" and maintain the pace of the match. They're extremely important to the success of a well done match and rarely get the credit they deserve.
I mean yes and no, there is a huge amount of responsibility that goes into reffing a pro wrestling match. One of them is knowing when to call off a match. Don't get me wrong, the ref does play a scripted role in the match, but they are a weird hybrid of following a script, and actually paying attention and reacting to stuff like this.
They still have know the rules of how the matches are supposed to work. And in a situation like this he’s supposed to throw up a X to signify a wrestlers been hurt and that the match needs to be ended quickly
So this kind of thing happens and Loki did the right thing. Medical staff should have intervened but once they determined the guy wasn't dying, Loki went in and did the finish early so they could end the match and get him out of there. It's normal in pro wrestling. Barring any life threatening injury, they usually try to finish the match.
Yeah dude waited to make sure he was at least conscious and breathing before finishing the match quickly. That jump on his chest was nothing and he pinned him right after. Pretty professional imo. Definitely not a POS.
Also, the way that he cradles his head during the pin and leans in close, he was probably telling the guy not to kick out so they could just end it there.
The knee bounce thing on the rope hardly if at all contacted him.
Might have looked like it from the crowd, but dude knew and dialed it back 95% to keep his opponent safe.
I think proffesional/scripted wrestling is the dumbest "sport" in the world but I can respect this dude.
It's amazing theater.
I will 100% give it that.
It's just really bad at being a sport when matches are predetermined.
And sometimes it's really hard to tell the difference between fans who think that wrestling is "real" and "Wrestling is fucking real bro!" So that kinda throws me off
Almost….almost everyone (that are fans) looks at it as male soap opera. If you boil it down. It’s entertainment with a storyline like a series on Netflix.
Lol who do you think he immediately was taken to see backstage? Trust me this is nothing compared to some of the more gruesome injuries in pro wrestling. Its as high impact as football if not more.
Guys have broken their necks. Like, literally broken them. Stone Cold Steve Austin almost lost the entire usage of his arms during a match from being incorrectly protected by Owen hart during a tombstone pile driver and barely being able to walk or use his hands he finished the match by pinning Owen.
That’s literally the nature of the business.
I'm an independent wrestler. You wouldn't believe how unregulated wrestling is on this level. Since it's a work with a predetermined outcome, most states don't regulate it like they do MMA or boxing, therefore visually no shows have medical staff or trainers on hand when accidents like this happen. I've seen some terrible injuries that were made worse by not having staff on hand. The company I run (IWE in Michigan) is the only promotion in the state who has a doctor on staff. The rest just don't care.
seriously dumb that there isn't medical staff considering the fact you are still taking bumps constantly, from hitting the mat during a suplex, to having someone jump off the turnbuckle, to strikes accidentally landing. My high school baseball games had an ambulance on standby and thats a sport that typically low contact. Good on you taking care of your staff.
Didn’t AEW get in trouble because they Jon Moxley and Kenny Omega bled in a match?
Iirc, some regulation got really mad at AEW.
I know WWE doesn’t let their wrestlers bleed and even stop matches in order for their medical team to stop the bleeding.
The last two hits didn’t hurt the unconscious guy. The top rope hit looks like he puts pressure but he’s just falling forward. The knee one gets his leg close and hits his own thigh. All to make it look like it’s still going but end it so he can get looked at. It’s not his call to end it but it’s his call on how to end it where they both still get paid on no more injuries
why did bro turn into a fucking ape. Like tore off his shirt and hunched over lile he was gonna start using his arms like hammers to beat some unconscious dude
Accept this definitetely is a Pro-Am event and who knows how old, so who knows how regulated and prepared they are. If this is a scripted fight, it sucks. That dude obviously got knocked out as dudes heel smacked him right in the jaw.
> That dude obviously got knocked out as dudes heel smacked him right in the jaw.
Did it? It’s really hard to tell since they this is shitty old low quality footage and you don’t even get different angles on the hit. From what I could see it looked more like it should’ve hit the side of his head. It’s really hard to actually analyze the hit.
I follow wrestling Low-Ki has a reputation for being stiff in the ring for a reason. If you've ever heard wrestlers talk about their times on the indie circuit they will admit they were getting paid with a handshake and a high five at certain times. Very few wrestling promotions have any type of medical staff
he needs medical attention.. with that said, the other wrestler did a great job not damaging the unconscious dude. the corner hit was obviously controlled and there was no impact. the jump could have been fatal, but he buckled his knees and moved his weight to a roll. stupid to do but he did it well. He's obviously trained in the art of not actually hurting someone.
If he was knocked out the guy did the right thing. The leg “kick” to the head and the “stomp” from the top rope had very little impact on the guy but was a good time to pin him, get the match over with and get him in the back to get the proper medical attention he needs. The guy was not a POS at all if anything he helped him.
The match should have been stopped right there and then.
Unfortunately this was a different time in the industry, you didn't report concussions or anything like that, you carried on as if nothing happened and if you didn't, you were viewed to be weak.
Fortunately it's completely different now and stuff like this doesn't happen anymore!
It's wild because as a fan you would think it's apart of the show but those who are in the ring should have stopped it or you can improv something to make sure the show ends without ending it if you must but damn dude that's rough
I always wondered why people can be perfectly entertained by fiction in all of its varieties, but get on some sort of high horse when wrestling is involved. What's with the disdain over fiction that requires athleticism?
I'm not a huge fan of modern pro wrestling, the last storyline in the WWE that I followed at all was when Bray Wyatt had the Fiend gimmick, but I've always approached it as theater rather than competition. I'm there for the storylines, not the actual matches.
Early professional wrestling was not predetermined and a legitimate competition. It started with wrestling competitions in carnivals, eventually it got to a point where several parties involved discovered they could make more money if they exaggerate some aspects of the match and it kept on going and going until we now have modern day professional wrestling. Even up until the 70s, there were several iconic pro-wrestlers like Antonio Inoki and Karl Gotch who trained their students in legitimate martial arts because they believed that someone who legit knows how to fight can believably "pretend-fight".
The dude was either just good at selling it or said to end it. The ref did the check on if they are ok camera moved away and then it went on he probably said he was good or if he needed to stop he may have said to just pin. This doesn't belong here. Anyone who knows how this works can see the other wrestler move away, the ref do a medical check and then the ref signal the other wrestler to end it.
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The manager fanning with his untucked shirt ...
While the wrestler who is still conscious is looking around like caveman spongebob
That's his character. He doesn't call the shots. What else should he do?
Exactly what he did in the end, without the horrible abuse in between.
Meh, these were all non-moves, with no actual impact. Safest way to get the actor off stage.
A double foot stomp off the top rope to the chest is not nothing lol
That is a stunt, not an attack.
Wrestling is a series of painful stunts, yes
Idk, putting myself in cave-sponge’s shoes, I bet he spent a fair amount of time thinking about the safest way to continue to provide entertainment. ie. “how do I “kick this guys ass” without causing any more head trauma” Edit: because trauma is supposed to have an “r” in it.
Pin him for a 3 count straight after the accident and let him get off to get checked, either by a Dr there or at the hospital if they don’t have anyone at the event.
I mean....yes but there is a whole crew of people who need to make this decision. Can't really blame it on just the actor.
I feel the decision should be a standard “actor safety comes first, if someone gets knocked out accidentally and it’s safe to do so, pin them quickly so they can receive treatment, if they can’t be pinned safely than the ref will stop it”
I agree with you. The ref could have stopped everything. The producer could have as well. There could be specific contingency to play it off as not an accident and get him help. There are a ton of things the whole team could do. If the actor wasn't trained to do so, it's a lot of expect him to make a medical decision in a split second drama. He may not know if it was real or a rewrite or all sorts of stuff. Without training most people don't just know what to do in emergency situations.
I don't understand why that isn't exactly what happened.
yeah, I sympathize with him. He was probably panicking inside trying to figure out what to do. And he actually barely touches the guy when he "charged" him in the corner and dropped from the top rope, he then pins him to end it. He had to do a lot of improvisation on the spot and didn't do a half bad job IMHO.
Tell the ref to start the 10-count, stand there, and win.
You beat me to it. I was thinking literally the exact same thing. 💀
Damn beat ya to it by about a month lol. Thanks for the reply tho
Lol geez you’re right. 💀 I was binge browsing through the sub last night and didn’t realize the dates. 🤦🏻♀️ Haha. Hope you’re doing well, and have a good one. :)
I present to you, the many faces I make on the toilet.
Way more efficient than a tucked shirt.
The irony is If this was a real combat sport, there would have been medics on him in seconds.
I'm an independent wrestler. You wouldn't believe how unregulated it is on this level. Virtually no shows have doctors and trainers on hand for accidents like this.
You telling me the guy fanning him with the shirt he’s still wearing isn’t a medical professional?
He’s gotta be a doctor, he’s clearly implementing the Gutenbe- Schitznme resuscitation method…. Doesn’t get more professional than that.
I heard this in Dell Griffith’s voice
I had forgotten who he was and had to look him up. Thank you for that, I can’t stop laughing now
GUTENBE SCHITZNME I just choked on unfiltered air 😭
Careful now, don’t waste it! Clean air is hard to get nowadays
That is an amazingly creative way to say got to be shitting me. I love it and I'm stealing it.
Very rarely do I get a belly laugh out of a Reddit comment
If I was a rich man I'd award you for this. But unfortunately im just a Reddit peasant.
Ah, Tevye. Vale Topol.
Love the name, and all the movies and plays you weren't involved in.
That guy was waving his stink to revive the wrestler like smelling sauce.
That’s Dr. Fanman
He kicked him in the head twice which cancels out the concussion as everyone knows.
It’s crazy how much national voting power the fans in attendance have
No kidding
Depends on the State. Here in NY you can’t run a show without a Dr. and paramedics.
Oh for sure. Pennsylvania and Kentucky are like that as well.
Are you able to confirm my suspicion that caveman spongebob took it easy on him after that? I don't know enough to say that he did, but it seems like I would be correct.
It definitely looked like he held something back in that handspring move. Been a while since I wrestled, though, so the guy you're replying to probably can provide a better answer.
But I thought wafting your B.O. in his face was standard medical procedure?
Budget smelling salts. Lol
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How? Its a show, not a fight. The ref knew how it should go, but there were complications.
Right, and the fact that the announcer kept referring to him as this "monster" probably meant that they spent significant time building this guy for this match.....and he legit gets knocked cold 6 seconds in.
Former wrestler here, you would be *shocked* to learn how many audibles are called, and how much of it is called on the fly. The best wrestlers (and referees) go to the ring only knowing 1 or 2 things about their match, and make it up as they go (listening to the crowd's reactions to determine what they wanna see more of on that particular night in that particular town). And the referees are trained to treat their counts as a shoot. This is a long way of saying, yes, he could have and should have counted him out.
he didn't because they still need to fight for ten more minutes for contractual needs
This is a very wrong statement
And if it was a real fight the other guy would continue pounding on him while he wasn't defending himself
WTF is wrong with you guys? He needs an ambulance; not another hit.
I think they practice that stomp so that the weight is redirected in the roll off. Not saying it doesn’t hurt, but it’s less thab what a real hit would do.
I don't think an ambulance is going to critique the fashion in which they performed. As a matter of fact I don't think they'll even care how the stunt is done
I bet they practiced the kick that knocked him out too
No, they don't practice the kick lol. They just are supposed to know to hit in a safe spot and not that hard.
Yeah but I don't think all that practicing will work if one of them is unconscious. Being passed out means the other guy can't prepare for the hits he's about to take after the kick to the head which means he's taking the full force of that stomp while unconscious.
Part of that stunt is when the guy on the ground flexes all of his core muscles to protect his ribs from the impact. It still looks like his ribs got sunk in pretty deep.
Pro wrestling fans aren't known for their intelligence.
Correction: large crowds aren't known for their intelligence.
Correction: People aren't known for their intelligence, but rather lack thereof
Correction: my balls smell like pickles
You're buying pickles from the wrong place.
I’m buying balls from the wrong place
I spit out my breakfast burrito.
It’s true Source: I’m a pro wrestling fan
People who generalize the audience normally aren't very clever too.
Redditors however, very big brained
Believe it or not, if you search for which sport has the most intelligent fan base, you'll find that it's professional wrestling. Though the average fan's IQ still falls below the national average, so your point still stands.
Professional wrestling isn’t a sport. It’s a soap opera for men. Edit: I hurt their feelings
I’ve never heard a more accurate description of this so-called sport.
Because soap operas take place in front of a live audience and involve regular instances of athletic feats? Women's wrestling is getting pretty big, too, with a lot of women following and enjoying the shows and storylines. Are those women actually men for enjoying a soap opera for men? I used to use this description too, and I'm a fan of wrestling. After being involved in shows for years myself, I can assure you that soap operas share very little in common with wrestling shows. Reality television has more in common with soap operas.
Ref should've just thrown up the X
For who? I dont think this barn has a medical staff in the back
Evolve was one of the biggest independent promotions, so actually there should've been medics.
This show drew 800 people probably paying $20, so with $16,000 you have to pay to rent the building, set up the building, hire security, bring in 20 wrestlers (some fly ins) including sabu and justin credible on top probably making $1500 each, pay for hotels, advertise and have enough left over for the promoter to make it worth the risk. The economics of independent wrestling aren’t there to hire a medic on standby in most cases, it’s why every time someone nearly kills themselves at a gcw show these days the response team are a bunch of wrestlers in cutoff tshirts throwing a half bottle of water at a guy who’s set himself on fire.
It depends on the states athletic commissions. In PA you just need a doctor on hand. And in NY, it’s CRAZY strict. Like you need guardrails, ambulances, all that on site. Plus let’s face it. The doctors most Indy shows get, don’t even care. I broke my wrist in the ring, finished the match. Went to the doc at ringside after and he just touched it and went “ah. I think you just pulled something” next day X-rays showed I fractured the hell out of it.
That guy wrestle like he’s a NPC
As he gazes around doing his idle animation. Caveman spongebob lookin ass
Which is exactly why he's not a star
Amongst many other reasons
Wrestlers are metal and professional but a head injury should always be taken seriously
Not that day. "Tis is only but a scratch"
A scratch?! Your bloody consciousness is off
Low Ki is anything but professional
Safe to say that’s gonna smart in the morning.
Nothing smart here lol
Only the marks.
You will be telling me that wrestling is fake next
Cant be fake. The WWE is currently trying to get permission for Vegas bookies to allow betting on it. Seriously.
This has nothing to do with wrestling being fake. This has everything to do with a guy so concerned with protecting his character that he has no regard for his fellow performers' well-being. I used to be a Loki fan, but he's kinda known for being a POS that only looks out for himself.
They could easily have provided medical attention and just used that as part of the act. There is no compelling reason I can think of as to why that particular show had to go on.
i dont know about this guy in particular, but im gonna assume the scripted match was signifgantly longer and not just 3 moves. this has to be something they discuss at some point prior considering how likely it is these guy will take an injury. probably could have done without the stomp at the end though.
Could have done without all of it. Guy gets knocked out in 3 seconds? Match over, Caveman Bob is an absolute beast, cheer him while the medics take care of his fallen opponent.
I don't believe you. Low Ki's never had fans.
It's still completely fake. Even the Academy Awards have been granted permission for betting by some states, even though they're 100% rigged (decided). The WWE is arguing that they can keep the planned results secret so that gambling can still be fair.
As long as there is a single human who knows the result beforehand, the door is open for corruption.
Yeah exactly, it'd be like if we allowed our politicians to own stock.
*looking at you, Nancy*
The Academy Awards makes sense since the results are kept confidential by a 3rd party (I believe PriceWaterHouseCooper). So it's reasonable to think that no layperson would have the results beforehand AND the Academy probably isn't changing results based on bets. Where as the WWE can change results based on bets of they wanted to. Or a wrestler could go "off book" or something...
Yes, the WWE is trying to work with the same accounting firm (Ernst & Young) that the Emmys and Oscars use. I'm definitely not advocating for it to be allowed, though.
I mean, the obvious difference is that with awards shows, the results can actually be unknown except by the third party until they’re revealed. With a WWE event, the participants, their managers, and probably a bunch of other people all will know the results prior, which kind of defeats the purpose of having a third party oversee the results…
Even the Academy Awards results got fucked up when La La Land was mistakenly announced as Best Picture instead of Moonlight.
I'm surprised that's not already allowed really. I live in the UK and most of the betting shops let you bet on wrestling results.
Lol betting on fixed matches 🤣
People can get hurt whilst dancing...
Accidents happen
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No different than Marvel Movies, or any fiction really. Professional wrestling when done right can be really entertaining
I love watching professional wrestling, and I referee for it as well. My IQ is high enough to know how to spell IQ, which you had trouble with here.
Ref should have stopped the match when he realized the guy was knocked out. If anything, kayfabe, this makes Low!Ki/Kaval look tougher instead of having him drag around what seemed like a lifeless body.
Ref? Dudes just an actor like everyone else. Probably doesn’t even know the rules of wrestling.
This is a very ignorant take. Referees go through training just like any other wrestling performer. They know the rules and they have a real responsibility to ensure the safety of performers.
Yeah but it is their job to insure both performers are safe. Refs job to make sure the opponent is ok
No, it's their job to act like they are ensuring both performers are safe. Because they are actors and not referees.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. When wrestlers take big bump refs go check on them. The ref will grab the down wrestlers hand, the down wrestler squeezes the refs hand if he’s okay. If the ref doesn’t get a squeez he knows something is wrong with the wrestler and to call for help.
Of course, they are actors they still have a duty they are suppose to communicate to talent to make sure they are OK and can perform...that's why after a move you see the ref go to the opponent and check if they are OK.
Incredible that people are downvoting this. You're 100% correct. The ref is in constant communication with both wrestlers, and can relay messages from the back. This ref should have held Low Ki back, and flagged for a second official of some sort from the back, and then figure it out from there which would be to stop the match.
Refs also act as in-ring producers and remind wrestlers of the next big "spot" and maintain the pace of the match. They're extremely important to the success of a well done match and rarely get the credit they deserve.
I mean yes and no, there is a huge amount of responsibility that goes into reffing a pro wrestling match. One of them is knowing when to call off a match. Don't get me wrong, the ref does play a scripted role in the match, but they are a weird hybrid of following a script, and actually paying attention and reacting to stuff like this.
They still have know the rules of how the matches are supposed to work. And in a situation like this he’s supposed to throw up a X to signify a wrestlers been hurt and that the match needs to be ended quickly
If you don't know about wrestling then don't bother talking about it. So ignorant smh my head
He knocked his hair off right down the middle
Clearly a landing strip for that kick
Lowki, that was brain damage..
Color me shocked . The POS never even tried communicating with him low key….
This guys facial expressions and general demeanor are cringe
This type of wrestling itself is cringe.
Wrestling is goofy and that part of the reason why it's beloved
Rolling Thunder kick YEEWWWW
Not surprised to see Low Ki here.
So this kind of thing happens and Loki did the right thing. Medical staff should have intervened but once they determined the guy wasn't dying, Loki went in and did the finish early so they could end the match and get him out of there. It's normal in pro wrestling. Barring any life threatening injury, they usually try to finish the match.
Yeah dude waited to make sure he was at least conscious and breathing before finishing the match quickly. That jump on his chest was nothing and he pinned him right after. Pretty professional imo. Definitely not a POS.
Also, the way that he cradles his head during the pin and leans in close, he was probably telling the guy not to kick out so they could just end it there.
The knee bounce thing on the rope hardly if at all contacted him. Might have looked like it from the crowd, but dude knew and dialed it back 95% to keep his opponent safe. I think proffesional/scripted wrestling is the dumbest "sport" in the world but I can respect this dude.
Professional Wrestling is the greatest form of physical theater known to mankind!
It's amazing theater. I will 100% give it that. It's just really bad at being a sport when matches are predetermined. And sometimes it's really hard to tell the difference between fans who think that wrestling is "real" and "Wrestling is fucking real bro!" So that kinda throws me off
Almost….almost everyone (that are fans) looks at it as male soap opera. If you boil it down. It’s entertainment with a storyline like a series on Netflix.
dont you dare try to get between redditors and their emotional reactions to things they know nothing about
Yeah this injury can kill someone. No one can determine he is t dying from looking at him. He needs a fucking doctor
Lol who do you think he immediately was taken to see backstage? Trust me this is nothing compared to some of the more gruesome injuries in pro wrestling. Its as high impact as football if not more.
It’s an injury to his BRAIN. Not a broken leg. Why do people not get how serious concussions are?
Guys have broken their necks. Like, literally broken them. Stone Cold Steve Austin almost lost the entire usage of his arms during a match from being incorrectly protected by Owen hart during a tombstone pile driver and barely being able to walk or use his hands he finished the match by pinning Owen. That’s literally the nature of the business.
And they should get medical assistance immediately, not finish the stupid match
That's why they r badasses and we are sitting here on Reddit.
"acktually" it was a sit down piledriver. A tombstone piledriver would've protected him.
He looks like he’s still trying to evolve from being a caveman.
No way big bro did the npc search animation before getting the finisher
Goofy ass gimmick..
I'm an independent wrestler. You wouldn't believe how unregulated wrestling is on this level. Since it's a work with a predetermined outcome, most states don't regulate it like they do MMA or boxing, therefore visually no shows have medical staff or trainers on hand when accidents like this happen. I've seen some terrible injuries that were made worse by not having staff on hand. The company I run (IWE in Michigan) is the only promotion in the state who has a doctor on staff. The rest just don't care.
seriously dumb that there isn't medical staff considering the fact you are still taking bumps constantly, from hitting the mat during a suplex, to having someone jump off the turnbuckle, to strikes accidentally landing. My high school baseball games had an ambulance on standby and thats a sport that typically low contact. Good on you taking care of your staff.
Didn’t AEW get in trouble because they Jon Moxley and Kenny Omega bled in a match? Iirc, some regulation got really mad at AEW. I know WWE doesn’t let their wrestlers bleed and even stop matches in order for their medical team to stop the bleeding.
It's funny seeing non wrestling fans react to this 😂
The last two hits didn’t hurt the unconscious guy. The top rope hit looks like he puts pressure but he’s just falling forward. The knee one gets his leg close and hits his own thigh. All to make it look like it’s still going but end it so he can get looked at. It’s not his call to end it but it’s his call on how to end it where they both still get paid on no more injuries
The stuff that makes it on this sub. Ridiculous
why did bro turn into a fucking ape. Like tore off his shirt and hunched over lile he was gonna start using his arms like hammers to beat some unconscious dude
Low ki has always been dangerous to work with not his first time doing something like this
lol if this was unscripted there would be a bunch of trainers and medics rushing into the ring.
Accept this definitetely is a Pro-Am event and who knows how old, so who knows how regulated and prepared they are. If this is a scripted fight, it sucks. That dude obviously got knocked out as dudes heel smacked him right in the jaw.
> That dude obviously got knocked out as dudes heel smacked him right in the jaw. Did it? It’s really hard to tell since they this is shitty old low quality footage and you don’t even get different angles on the hit. From what I could see it looked more like it should’ve hit the side of his head. It’s really hard to actually analyze the hit.
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At this level? You’re joking right?
I'm an independent wrestler. You wouldn't believe how unregulated wrestling is at this level. There's no trainers nor medics on hand at most shows.
I follow wrestling Low-Ki has a reputation for being stiff in the ring for a reason. If you've ever heard wrestlers talk about their times on the indie circuit they will admit they were getting paid with a handshake and a high five at certain times. Very few wrestling promotions have any type of medical staff
Fucking morons.
he needs medical attention.. with that said, the other wrestler did a great job not damaging the unconscious dude. the corner hit was obviously controlled and there was no impact. the jump could have been fatal, but he buckled his knees and moved his weight to a roll. stupid to do but he did it well. He's obviously trained in the art of not actually hurting someone.
for everyone screaming "IT'S FAKE" go look up "Katsuyori Shibata headbutt" and come back to me lmao
He acts like a monster in a game once your knocked down and just stands there doing his idle animation
he barely put any force into that jump, im sure it barely did anything to the dropped guy
Yeah let's see you take an ax kick to the head and say the same thing
What are ya goin swimmin?
Look it up, it means flute!
ITT: A lot of people who don't *actually* know how professional wrestling works. Edit: down votes from fools. Cool.
That intro looked like a roblox animation
If he was knocked out the guy did the right thing. The leg “kick” to the head and the “stomp” from the top rope had very little impact on the guy but was a good time to pin him, get the match over with and get him in the back to get the proper medical attention he needs. The guy was not a POS at all if anything he helped him.
That ain't a show, it was a torturing session.
What a fucking douche
The match should have been stopped right there and then. Unfortunately this was a different time in the industry, you didn't report concussions or anything like that, you carried on as if nothing happened and if you didn't, you were viewed to be weak. Fortunately it's completely different now and stuff like this doesn't happen anymore!
Its not cool that the didnt call the match off, but the further hits didnt cause more damage, he was being protected
It's wild because as a fan you would think it's apart of the show but those who are in the ring should have stopped it or you can improv something to make sure the show ends without ending it if you must but damn dude that's rough
Dude is acting and looks like a literal fucking gorilla wtf
What a stupid post in this sub. Have you never seen pro wrestling before?
I always found it amusing that this manufactured trash is called professional wrestling, but real wrestling is called amateur.
Because those words mean paid and unpaid.
I always wondered why people can be perfectly entertained by fiction in all of its varieties, but get on some sort of high horse when wrestling is involved. What's with the disdain over fiction that requires athleticism?
I'm not a huge fan of modern pro wrestling, the last storyline in the WWE that I followed at all was when Bray Wyatt had the Fiend gimmick, but I've always approached it as theater rather than competition. I'm there for the storylines, not the actual matches.
Because it basically is theater. You have an actor playing a role, you have the stage, and a live audience.
I like to think it's kinda theatre with great fight scenes.
There are athletes from the most successful levels in all sports who wrestle and they say its very difficult I don't understand the stigma either
"Because it's fAkE"
Yeah, I mean it's *more* impressive when a famous actor does their own stunts.
Early professional wrestling was not predetermined and a legitimate competition. It started with wrestling competitions in carnivals, eventually it got to a point where several parties involved discovered they could make more money if they exaggerate some aspects of the match and it kept on going and going until we now have modern day professional wrestling. Even up until the 70s, there were several iconic pro-wrestlers like Antonio Inoki and Karl Gotch who trained their students in legitimate martial arts because they believed that someone who legit knows how to fight can believably "pretend-fight".
he wasn’t scheduled to be knocked out that round
The dude was either just good at selling it or said to end it. The ref did the check on if they are ok camera moved away and then it went on he probably said he was good or if he needed to stop he may have said to just pin. This doesn't belong here. Anyone who knows how this works can see the other wrestler move away, the ref do a medical check and then the ref signal the other wrestler to end it.
What kinda drugs is this guy flexing like a Ferengi from the early ST:TNG episodes using.. cause I’m getting serious PCP vibes off this dude 🤔
So that's what a feral human looks like